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20th Apr '16 6:41:49 PM Vir
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* A major part of the {{DCAU}} pre Justice League. Many of the sympathetic Batman/Superman villains actually get resolutions to their issues during their respective shows run. In Batman TAS: Scarface gets mental help, Two-Face Harvey gets his face reconstructed, Harley Quinn gets away from the Joker. Superman helps a blackmailed member of a black ops assassination group get her freedom. Eventually, all of these criminals (and several more) go back to their lives of crime, no explanation given. Made more frustrating in that in many cases, the HeelFaceTurn episodes are played as major TearJerker moments that are meant to take. While a handful of reformed criminals in the DCAU did stay on the straight and narrow, this trope made a lot of [[HeelFaceTurn Heel-Face Turns]] a lot less believable.
* Smaller time frame (only throughout one season, which happens to be the last), but the BrokenBird arc of the titular character of ''TheLegendOfKorra'' is this. Three years after being crippled mentally and physically by [[BombThrowingAnarchists The Red Lotus]], she is still crippled by PTSD, nightmares of the torture she endured at the Lotus' hands, hallucinations (of Lotus leader Zaheer and an evil version of herself) and the damage to her body done by mercury poisoning. Several times throughout the season she ''seems'' to obtain an EpiphanyTherapy and improvement of her body via medicine and TrainingFromHell, only for the ''next'' episode to showcase that she has not improved at all. This goes for so long that people disagreed greatly with the speech she gave to the season's villain in the end that the suffering made her a greater person (part of this is ValuesDissonance (because spiritual improvement through suffering ''is'' a tenant of Buddhism), but critics pointed to that this ''could'' have been "learned" much earlier in the season and not turn her moments when [[HesBack She's Back]] into a collection of [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]]).

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* A major part of the {{DCAU}} pre Justice League. Franchise/{{DCAU}} pre-''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague''. Many of the sympathetic Batman/Superman Franchise/{{Batman}}[=/=]Franchise/{{Superman}} villains actually get resolutions to their issues during their respective shows run. In Batman TAS: ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' Scarface gets mental help, Two-Face Harvey gets his face reconstructed, Harley Quinn gets away from the Joker. Superman helps a blackmailed member of a black ops assassination group get her freedom. Eventually, all of these criminals (and several more) go back to their lives of crime, no explanation given. Made more frustrating in that in many cases, the HeelFaceTurn episodes are played as major TearJerker moments that are meant to take. While a handful of reformed criminals in the DCAU did stay on the straight and narrow, this trope made a lot of [[HeelFaceTurn Heel-Face Turns]] a lot less believable.
* Smaller time frame (only throughout one season, which happens to be the last), but the BrokenBird arc of the titular character of ''TheLegendOfKorra'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is this. Three years after being crippled mentally and physically by [[BombThrowingAnarchists The Red Lotus]], she is still crippled by PTSD, nightmares of the torture she endured at the Lotus' hands, hallucinations (of Lotus leader Zaheer and an evil version of herself) and the damage to her body done by mercury poisoning. Several times throughout the season she ''seems'' to obtain an EpiphanyTherapy and improvement of her body via medicine and TrainingFromHell, only for the ''next'' episode to showcase that she has not improved at all. This goes for so long that people disagreed greatly with the speech she gave to the season's villain in the end that the suffering made her a greater person (part of this is ValuesDissonance (because spiritual improvement through suffering ''is'' a tenant of Buddhism), but critics pointed to that this ''could'' have been "learned" much earlier in the season and not turn her moments when [[HesBack She's Back]] into a collection of [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]]).{{Hope Spot}}s).
11th Apr '16 12:44:11 AM aye_amber
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* Xavier Dolan’s ''I Killed My Mother'', which he wrote, directed, and starred in, has his character repeatedly fight with his mother, picking any excuse to pick a loud argument with her, and reconciling after a while. At the end of the film, they’re left on somewhat ambiguous terms.
* The infamous ''BattlefieldEarth''decides to have the majority of its run time consist of nothing but the main character escaping from the psychlos and then being recaptured.

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* Xavier Dolan’s ''I Killed My Mother'', which he wrote, directed, and starred in, has his character repeatedly fight with his mother, picking any excuse to pick a loud argument with her, and reconciling after a while. At the end of the film, they’re they're left on somewhat ambiguous terms.
* The infamous ''BattlefieldEarth''decides ''Film/BattlefieldEarth''decides to have the majority of its run time consist of nothing but the main character escaping from the psychlos and then being recaptured.
14th Mar '16 4:37:16 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** '' '''SYLAR'S DEATH'''.'' Apparently killed in Volume One. Recovers from his fatal chest wound in Volume Two, but without his powers. Then gets his powers back. Then, in Volume Three, steals Claire's power and becomes immortal - but aha! All powers get switched off during the eclipse, so he finally dies then - but, whoops, as soon as the eclipse is over his ''dead and decomposing body'' heals itself and he returns to full strength. He gets killed at the end of Volume Three, because his power can't save him when you stab him in the back of the head and drop a burning building on hi - oh no wait, according to Volume Four, it can. Then he gets effectively 'killed' at the end of Volume Four when his mind is erased and replaced with the mind of Nathan Petrelli. Volume Five rolls around, and this is promptly {{retcon}}ned to his mind being still alive inside Matt Parkman's head - and then he takes Parkman over and even eventually gets his own body back. So Parkman traps him down and does the next best thing to killing him - [[AndIMustScream imprisons him inside a personal Hell]] and [[SealedEvilInACan bricks him up in a basement]]. This lasts maybe all of an ''episode'' before Peter Petrelli breaks him back out. Luckily, as part of the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor thing the show seems to love so much, he turns out to have repented while unconscious, and was last seen alive and well, '''again''', but now a good guy.

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** '' '''SYLAR'S DEATH'''.'' Sylar's death. Apparently killed in Volume One. Recovers from his fatal chest wound in Volume Two, but without his powers. Then gets his powers back. Then, in Volume Three, steals Claire's power and becomes immortal - but aha! All powers get switched off during the eclipse, so he finally dies then - but, whoops, as soon as the eclipse is over his ''dead and decomposing body'' heals itself and he returns to full strength. He gets killed at the end of Volume Three, because his power can't save him when you stab him in the back of the head and drop a burning building on hi - oh no wait, according to Volume Four, it can. Then he gets effectively 'killed' at the end of Volume Four when his mind is erased and replaced with the mind of Nathan Petrelli. Volume Five rolls around, and this is promptly {{retcon}}ned to his mind being still alive inside Matt Parkman's head - and then he takes Parkman over and even eventually gets his own body back. So Parkman traps him down and does the next best thing to killing him - [[AndIMustScream imprisons him inside a personal Hell]] and [[SealedEvilInACan bricks him up in a basement]]. This lasts maybe all of an ''episode'' before Peter Petrelli breaks him back out. Luckily, as part of the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor thing the show seems to love so much, he turns out to have repented while unconscious, and was last seen alive and well, '''again''', but now a good guy.
24th Jan '16 9:24:47 AM nombretomado
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* Main plot of ''StrangersInParadise'' is lengthy [[UnresolvedSexualTension will-they-won't-they relationship]], and so are several main subplots. That reasons for this yoyoing are more realistic than in other examples doesn't help, because they go back and forth just too many times. One plot that isn't romantic features organization "The Big Six" repeatedly pursuing the main character. Each time the story resolves with the leader of "Big Six" dead and the organization seemingly dismantled, or at least promising to leave main characters alone. However, each time it soon turns out that "The Big Six" still exists and one of ex-minions, now promoted into the big boss, decided to continue pursuing the main character for various reasons.

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* Main plot of ''StrangersInParadise'' ''ComicBook/StrangersInParadise'' is lengthy [[UnresolvedSexualTension will-they-won't-they relationship]], and so are several main subplots. That reasons for this yoyoing are more realistic than in other examples doesn't help, because they go back and forth just too many times. One plot that isn't romantic features organization "The Big Six" repeatedly pursuing the main character. Each time the story resolves with the leader of "Big Six" dead and the organization seemingly dismantled, or at least promising to leave main characters alone. However, each time it soon turns out that "The Big Six" still exists and one of ex-minions, now promoted into the big boss, decided to continue pursuing the main character for various reasons.
24th Dec '15 3:31:36 PM smalltime
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** All of the sequels have an old acquaintance of Rothbart as the main villain.

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** All of the The first two sequels both have an old acquaintance of Rothbart as the main villain.
24th Dec '15 3:22:51 PM smalltime
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** All of the sequels have an old acquaintance of Rothbart as the main villain.
6th Dec '15 10:54:56 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* After being a CosmicPlaything so long, one would think that Kratos from ''Franchise/GodOfWar'' would learn to not trust any god who tells him to do something. And yet, he always goes along with the machinations and whims of one of the gods of Olympus or the titans who claim to be on his side, and acts surprised when they inevitably [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness turn on him]]. Kratos then swears vengeance against the gods and that he'll never trust them again, only to completely forget about this come the next game. It's only in the GrandFinale of the series, ''VideoGame/GodOfWarIII'', that Kratos finally seems to wise up.

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* After being a CosmicPlaything so long, one would think that Kratos from ''Franchise/GodOfWar'' ''VideoGame/{{God of War|Series}}'' would learn to not trust any god who tells him to do something. And yet, he always goes along with the machinations and whims of one of the gods of Olympus or the titans who claim to be on his side, and acts surprised when they inevitably [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness turn on him]]. Kratos then swears vengeance against the gods and that he'll never trust them again, only to completely forget about this come the next game. It's only in the GrandFinale of the series, ''VideoGame/GodOfWarIII'', that Kratos finally seems to wise up.
4th Dec '15 12:37:06 PM Knowledgeseeker
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* Smaller time frame (only throughout one season, which happens to be the last), but the BrokenBird arc of the titular character of ''TheLegendOfKorra'' is this. Five years after being crippled mentally and physically by [[BombThrowingAnarchists The Red Lotus]], she is still crippled by PTSD, nightmares of the torture she endured at the Lotus' hands, hallucinations (of Lotus leader Zaheer and an evil version of herself) and the damage to her body done by mercury poisoning. Several times throughout the season she ''seems'' to obtain an EpiphanyTherapy and improvement of her body via medicine and TrainingFromHell, only for the ''next'' episode to showcase that she has not improved at all. This goes for so long that people disagreed greatly with the speech she gave to the season's villain in the end that the suffering made her a greater person (part of this is ValuesDissonance (because spiritual improvement through suffering ''is'' a tenant of Buddhism), but critics pointed to that this ''could'' have been "learned" much earlier in the season and not turn her moments when [[HesBack She's Back]] into a collection of [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]]).

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* Smaller time frame (only throughout one season, which happens to be the last), but the BrokenBird arc of the titular character of ''TheLegendOfKorra'' is this. Five Three years after being crippled mentally and physically by [[BombThrowingAnarchists The Red Lotus]], she is still crippled by PTSD, nightmares of the torture she endured at the Lotus' hands, hallucinations (of Lotus leader Zaheer and an evil version of herself) and the damage to her body done by mercury poisoning. Several times throughout the season she ''seems'' to obtain an EpiphanyTherapy and improvement of her body via medicine and TrainingFromHell, only for the ''next'' episode to showcase that she has not improved at all. This goes for so long that people disagreed greatly with the speech she gave to the season's villain in the end that the suffering made her a greater person (part of this is ValuesDissonance (because spiritual improvement through suffering ''is'' a tenant of Buddhism), but critics pointed to that this ''could'' have been "learned" much earlier in the season and not turn her moments when [[HesBack She's Back]] into a collection of [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]]).
11th Nov '15 2:38:23 PM bravo104
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* The infamous ''BattlefieldEarth''decides to have the majority of its run time consist of nothing but the main character escaping from the psychlos and then being recaptured.
24th Oct '15 6:55:58 PM marcoasalazarm
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* Smaller time frame (only throughout one season, which happens to be the last), but the BrokenBird arc of the titular character of ''TheLegendOfKorra'' is this. Five years after being crippled mentally and physically by [[BombThrowingAnarchists The Red Lotus]], she is still crippled by PTSD, nightmares of the torture she endured at the Lotus' hands, hallucinations (of Lotus leader Zaheer and an evil version of herself) and the damage to her body done by mercury poisoning. Several times throughout the season she ''seems'' to obtain an EpiphanyTherapy and improvement of her body via medicine and TrainingFromHell, only for the ''next'' episode to showcase that she has not improved at all. This goes for so long that people disagreed greatly with the speech she gave to the season's villain in the end that the suffering made her a greater person (part of this is ValuesDissonance (because spiritual improvement through suffering ''is'' a tenant of Buddhism), but critics pointed to that this ''could'' have been "learned" much earlier in the season and not turn her moments when [[HesBack She's Back]] into a collection of [[HopeSpot Hope Spots]]).
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