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22nd Nov '17 7:42:16 PM PaulA
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* In the ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''Just War'', the Doctor deconstructs this mindset in a Russian Roulette confrontation with a captured Nazi, pointing out that even if you get to write the history books it doesn't make you and your cause good:

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* In the ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''Just War'', ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoNewAdventuresJustWar Just War]]'', the Doctor deconstructs this mindset in a Russian Roulette confrontation with a captured Nazi, pointing out that even if you get to write the history books it doesn't make you and your cause good:
4th Nov '17 2:00:59 PM HaroldRowsdower
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* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' reveals that Asgard's power and influence was won the way ''most'' empires win influence, Odin just had a change of heart and covered the messy bits up.
20th Oct '17 12:43:53 AM PaulA
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** In ''A Gift From Earth'', the official histories say that the social stratification of Plateau was initially agreed upon by the crew and colonists because the crew had done the work and taken the risks. [[spoiler:In fact, the original crew "convinced" the original colonists at gunpoint.]]
** In ''Fleet of Worlds'', the official histories say that the Puppeteers rescued a crippled human colony ship and settled its occupants on one of their worlds. [[spoiler:In fact, the Puppeteers themselves had attacked the ship out of panic that it had discovered one of the worlds being moved into the fleet, and then enslaved the occupants in order to breed a compliant population.]]

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** In ''A Gift From Earth'', ''Literature/AGiftFromEarth'', the official histories say that the social stratification of Plateau was initially agreed upon by the crew and colonists because the crew had done the work and taken the risks. [[spoiler:In fact, the original crew "convinced" the original colonists at gunpoint.]]
** In ''Fleet of Worlds'', ''Literature/FleetOfWorlds'', the official histories say that the Puppeteers rescued a crippled human colony ship and settled its occupants on one of their worlds. [[spoiler:In fact, the Puppeteers themselves had attacked the ship out of panic that it had discovered one of the worlds being moved into the fleet, and then enslaved the occupants in order to breed a compliant population.]]
11th Oct '17 9:48:56 AM BeerBaron
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** Speaking of Tiber Septim, the [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade Imperial orthodox history]] of his life covers up, denies, or suppresses any other stories of Septim as "heretical". Given that there is plenty of evidence that Septim's life was ''not'' the truly noble, humble, and heroic version detailed by the official histories, there is ''plenty'' to cover up.
4th Oct '17 12:22:16 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': One of the reasons that Jasnah Kholin, an avowed atheist, dislikes the Vorin religion so much is because hundreds of years ago, when the church was at the height of its power, they took to rewriting history books to match their dogma. While the Vorin Hierocracy was struck down and replaced with a system of slave-priests called ardents, modern Vorinism still accepts those ancient "corrections" as truth.
2nd Oct '17 8:01:07 PM LLSmoothJ
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* Discussed in WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime, where using the Omega Keys to restore Cybertron wasn't just restoring Cybertron itself, but rather ''who'' are the ones to do so. It's pointed out that if the Decepticons are the ones who revive Cybertron, then [[BigBad Megatron]] would gain enough political influence to brand every Autobot as war criminals.

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* Discussed in WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime, where using the Omega Keys to restore Cybertron wasn't just about restoring Cybertron itself, but rather ''who'' are the ones to do so. It's pointed out that if the Decepticons are the ones who revive Cybertron, then [[BigBad Megatron]] would gain enough political influence to brand every Autobot as war criminals.
2nd Oct '17 8:00:30 PM LLSmoothJ
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* Discussed in WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime, where using the Omega Keys to restore Cybertron wasn't just restoring Cybertron itself, but rather ''who'' are the ones to do so. It's pointed out that if the Decepticons are the ones who revive Cybertron, then [[BigBad Megatron]] would gain enough political influence to brand every Autobot as war criminals.
18th Sep '17 11:24:59 AM BeerBaron
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** Also from the backstory, the Ayleids (Wild Elves) are the "losers" to the Alessian Empire "winners". While there is plenty of evidence that the Ayleids [[KickTheDog committed atrocities]] against their human slaves, there has almost certainly been some exaggeration of the centuries since. Even though several [[TokenHeroicOrc rebel Ayleid lords]] supported Alessia during the [[SlaveRevolt revolt]] and were permitted to keep their lands and culture after the war, even they would be demonized once the monkey prophet Maruhk came to power. In addition to the persecution of any elves within the empire, he also [[UnPerson destroyed any records and cultural artifacts]] of the Ayleids that could be found. Eventually, only the (almost certainly heavily biased) Imperial records of the Alessian Revolt remained.

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** Also from the backstory, the Ayleids (Wild Elves) are the "losers" to the Alessian Empire "winners". While there is plenty of evidence that the Ayleids [[KickTheDog committed atrocities]] against their human slaves, there has almost certainly been some exaggeration of the centuries since. Even though several [[TokenHeroicOrc rebel Ayleid lords]] supported Alessia during the [[SlaveRevolt revolt]] and were permitted to keep their lands and culture after the war, even they would be demonized once the monkey prophet Maruhk Marukh came to power. power and founded the [[TheTheocracy Alessian Order]]. In addition to the persecution of any elves within the empire, he the Order also [[UnPerson destroyed any records and cultural artifacts]] of the Ayleids that could be found. Eventually, only the (almost certainly heavily biased) Imperial records of the Alessian Revolt remained.
14th Sep '17 10:21:13 AM ultimomant
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* ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Three years before the main story, the Empire invaded the Kingdom of the [[LittleBitBeastly Warrior Bunnies]]. The Warrior Bunnies fought back, but Queen Tyuule realized that if this continued, they would lose. She bravely offered herself to Prince Zorzal as a SexSlave if he would spare her people. Unfortunately, he took her as a slave and then [[ILied had the Kingdom razed anyway]], with anyone who couldn't escape killed or enslaved. The Empire then recorded in their public records that Tyuule cowardly sold out her people and offered herself to Zorzal to save her own life. As a result, the survivors hate Tyuule's guts and think she is a traitor.

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* ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Three years before the main story, the Empire invaded the Kingdom of the [[LittleBitBeastly Warrior Bunnies]]. The Warrior Bunnies fought back, but Queen Tyuule realized that if this continued, they would lose. She bravely offered herself to Prince Zorzal as a SexSlave if he would spare her people. Unfortunately, he took her as a slave and then [[ILied had the Kingdom razed anyway]], with anyone who couldn't escape killed or enslaved. The Empire then recorded in their public records that Tyuule cowardly sold out her people and offered herself to Zorzal to save her own life. As a result, the survivors hate Tyuule's guts and think she is a traitor. [[spoiler:Sometime after Tyuule's death, the protagonists find out the truth of the matter and manage to clear her name.]]
6th Sep '17 6:57:49 PM ultimomant
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%%* ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Three years before the main story, the Empire invaded the Kingdom of the [[LittleBitBeastly Warrior Bunnies]]. The Warrior Bunnies fought back, but Queen Tyuule realized that if this continued, they would lose. She bravely offered herself to Prince Zorzal as a SexSlave if he would spare her people. Unfortunately, he took her as a slave and then [[ILied had the Kingdom razed anyway]], with anyone who couldn't escape killed or enslaved. The Empire then recorded in their public records that Tyuule cowardly sold out her people and offered herself to Zorzal to save her own life. As a result, the survivors hate Tyuule's guts and think she is a traitor.

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%%* * ''Literature/{{Gate}}'': Three years before the main story, the Empire invaded the Kingdom of the [[LittleBitBeastly Warrior Bunnies]]. The Warrior Bunnies fought back, but Queen Tyuule realized that if this continued, they would lose. She bravely offered herself to Prince Zorzal as a SexSlave if he would spare her people. Unfortunately, he took her as a slave and then [[ILied had the Kingdom razed anyway]], with anyone who couldn't escape killed or enslaved. The Empire then recorded in their public records that Tyuule cowardly sold out her people and offered herself to Zorzal to save her own life. As a result, the survivors hate Tyuule's guts and think she is a traitor.
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