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11th Dec '16 3:22:01 AM iroanxi
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* In ''FanFic/ThisBites'', one of Hody's thugs tries to make a couple kids eat a Transponder Snail for [[spoiler:listening to the SBS]], or else he'll kill them. Fortunately, Jinbe steps in and says anyone who tries similar will answer to him.
10th Dec '16 7:09:27 PM Mhazard
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** According to ''Literature/BookOfJudge'', the Canaanites are notorious for burning their children for their idols, resulting in God telling the Israelite to [[KillEmAll purge all of the gentiles in Canaan]] so they would not be tainted by idolatry, which they were [[PunishedForSympathy punished for not doing so]].

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** According to ''Literature/BookOfJudge'', ''Literature/BookOfJudges'', the Canaanites are notorious for burning their children for their idols, resulting in God telling the Israelite to [[KillEmAll purge all of the gentiles in Canaan]] so they would not be tainted by idolatry, which they were [[PunishedForSympathy punished for not doing so]].
10th Dec '16 7:09:09 PM Mhazard
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** The Canaanites are notorious for burning their children for their idols, according to ''Literature/BookOfJudges'', resulting in God telling the Israelite to [[KillEmAll purge all of the gentiles in Canaan]].

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** The According to ''Literature/BookOfJudge'', the Canaanites are notorious for burning their children for their idols, according to ''Literature/BookOfJudges'', resulting in God telling the Israelite to [[KillEmAll purge all of the gentiles in Canaan]].Canaan]] so they would not be tainted by idolatry, which they were [[PunishedForSympathy punished for not doing so]].
10th Dec '16 7:06:15 PM Mhazard
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** King Herod did this in order to try to kill Jesus. [[NiceJobBreakingItHerof It didn't work]].

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** King Herod did this in order to try to kill Jesus. [[NiceJobBreakingItHerof [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod It didn't work]].
10th Dec '16 7:05:50 PM Mhazard
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** King Herod did this in order to try to kill Jesus. Didn't work.

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** The Canaanites are notorious for burning their children for their idols, according to ''Literature/BookOfJudges'', resulting in God telling the Israelite to [[KillEmAll purge all of the gentiles in Canaan]].
30th Nov '16 8:31:42 PM Willbyr
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30th Nov '16 5:37:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ancient black dragon in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' intended to kill Varsuuvius' children, and managed to hurt them before V showed up to stop her. She notes that people don't think anything of killing dragon young, such as when V killed her (young adult) son.

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The ancient black dragon in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' intended to kill Varsuuvius' children, and managed to hurt them before V showed up to stop her. She notes that people don't think anything of killing dragon young, such as when V killed her (young adult) son.
30th Nov '16 5:37:28 AM Morgenthaler
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** Then V [[spoiler:[[DisproportionateRetribution kills the dragon's whole family (roughly a quarter of the black dragon race), which includes]] ''eggs'']], to ensure there won't be anyone to claim blood revenge for killing the dragon.
*** Rich brings up a good point about dragon wyrmlings having stats and therefore indicting many [=PCs=] for slaughtering dragon children despite them being clearly sentient. The mother dragon's whole beef was with V killing her son.
*** Then again, the reason most people find hurting or killing children to be offensive (at minimum) is because children are usually helpless, defenseless, harmless innocents, four things which a Young Adult Black Dragon most emphatically is '''not'''. A young adult black dragon is a significant threat to a party of humanoid adventurers; two humanoid children are not remotely a threat to an adult Black Dragon.
*** [[PerspectiveFlip None of which changes the fact that a group of six adults broke in with the intent of stealing their possessions and killed the adolescent resident they found there when he tried to defend his home against their invasion.]]
30th Nov '16 5:36:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* UltimateMarvel ComicBook/RedSkull holding a gun to a baby's head. Horrifically, he [[MoralEventHorizon killed the baby anyway]], even [[ILied after his demands are met]]!
* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker has been known to do this, [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily just ask Jason Todd]]...
** On one occasion, he and Catwoman took a whole rich family hostage, including a tiny IllGirl who was in a coma. Joker was completely ready to kill the little girl in front of her father and older brother, but [[EvenEvilHasStandards a VERY pissed-off Catwoman stopped him]] and screamed that [[NotWhatISignedOnFor that wasn't what they came for]].
** Perhaps Joker's most notorious moment of this came during the "No Man's Land" mega-arc, where he plotted to kill all the newborns in Gotham City on New Year's Day, just so that he could destroy the already fragile spirit of Gotham's citizens. Although his dialogue to the babies indicated he thought he was ''doing them a favor'', sparing them from life's cruelties. And he ''did'' promise it wouldn't hurt. After [[spoiler: killing Sarah Essen-Gordon, who tried to save the babies from him]], he leaves the newborns unharmed despite still having plenty of time to kill them before Batman arrived.
** So has ComicBook/TwoFace. Ask ''all'' the Robins.
** There was also what he did in ''ComicBook/TheNail'': torturing and killing [[spoiler: Dick and Barbaral]] '''in live television'''. [[spoiler: No wonder this is one of the VERY counted times [[ActionDad Batman]] [[PapaWolf breaks]] his not-killing vow.]]
** ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'': Joker has a track record for this. He certainly has no problem fighting [[spoiler: Damian]], the 10-year-old kid who beat him up with a crowbar.
** Harley herself is not absent from this. In the New 52, she massacred hundreds of children by using bombs disguised as handheld gaming consoles.
* Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}'s arch-enemy Black Manta won notoriety by killing the hero's infant son.
* The Scarlet Witch from ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' stood in awe as Pandemonium deformed and grafted her children on his own arms.
* The child abductor in ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}.''
* ComicBook/FantasticFour villain the Wizard had absolutely no qualms about performing an experiment on Franklin Richards that had a high probabilty of causing Franklin's death. Fortunately for Franklin, the Wizard's current partner the Mad Thinker [[EvenEvilHasStandards would not hear of it]], dissolved their partnership and contacted the Thing, who helped him defeat the Wizard.
* Winnowill in ''ComicBook/ElfQuest'' imprisons, humiliates and tortures the Wolfriders, but it's only when she threatens Cutter and Leetah's children that she really crosses the line. Then there's her 'relationship' with her son Two-Edge.
* One of the first things the Plutonian does in ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}'' is vaporize a child.
* RareFemaleExample: [[MeaningfulName Frau Totenkinder]] of ''{{ComicBook/Fables}}'' [[spoiler:kills her own son and countless other infants for power - even in the mundy world, she funds abortion clinics.]]
** Baba Yaga is stated to have the same habits of the folk tales, [[spoiler: including ''eating'' babies.]]
* The plot of ''[[ComicBook/SinCity That Yellow Bastard]]'' revolves around a CowboyCop going after a villain that preys on children.
* ComicBook/SpiderMan villain ComicBook/{{Carnage}} has no qualms about who he kills, children included. During his rampages, child corpses are often among the dead, and in his youth he torched an orphanage.
* ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} from ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'' is known to attack, murder, and sometimes even eat children. In one issue, {{Deadpool}} is in a cabin with him and he opens a closet to find a little girl tied up. When he asks about this, Sabretooth replies that he's saving her for later.
* [[BigBad Dodge]] from ''ComicBook/LockeAndKey'' has no problem [[spoiler:pushing a child under a school bus because he's figured out too much.]]
* In ''ComicBook/CerebusTheAardvark'', this starts showing up once the CerebusSyndrome kicks in, with the most notorious example being Pope Cerebus blessing an infant after his mother begs Cerebus to do so and then hurling it away to illustrate the point that "you can get what you want and still not be very happy."
* Doctor Doom showed no hesitation in trying to murder the Hulk's young son, Skaar, and at the end of Avengers: The Children's Crusade, he [[spoiler: kills the young Cassie Lang.]] On the other hand, God help anyone who tries to hurt one of ''Latveria's'' children when he's around (or the Richards kids. ''Especially'' Valeria).
* In one issue of ''ComicBook/TheSpirit'', two bank robbers plan to kill all witnesses to their crime -- including a little girl just coming around the corner. With ''tommy guns''. [[note]][[spoiler:Frightened, she falls down -- and survives.]][[/note]]
* In {{Superman}}, [[spoiler: Catherine Jane "Cat" Grant's son Adam Morgan is first kidnapped by Toyman (alongside other children), then is stabbed to death when he attempted to escape from him.]]
* Billy Kincaid, an early ComicBook/{{Spawn}} villain, was a SerialKiller who targeted children through his BadHumorTruck.
* ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'': [[spoiler:Queen Chrysalis has made it ''quite'' [[ImpliedDeathThreat clear]] that she doesn't intend on letting the Cutie Mark Crusaders leave. Not to mention a luvcat kitten was seen before Chrysalis and her soldiers took over the village.]]
* Marcus Brutus in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}} and Son'' fits this trope. He burned down Asterix's village, and nearly kills the baby boy Asterix is trying to protect [[spoiler: because the boy is really Ptolemy XV Caesarion, the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, and that killing would solidify Brutus' power in Rome]]. A rare departure from the comedy of the usual comics.
* ''ComicBook/{{X 23}}'':
** A ''very'' rare heroic example: X-23 confirmed to Valeria Richards that she killed children during her time as a TykeBomb assassin-for-hire. This changed, however, after her escape from the Facility. She ''did'' later kill symbiote-infused clones of herself in Blackheart's service, who could technically be considered children.
** And the Facility members who tortured her in the first place certainly qualify. Zander Rice and Kimura both subjected Laura to ''horrific'' physical abuse from the time she was seven years old. Rice also sent her to kill his illegitimate toddler son Henry (she ultimately refused to carry it out), while Kimura tried to kill Laura's cousin, Megan, by ''slowly pushing her finger through her heart'' just to punish Laura over her escape.
* The ComicBook/{{Runaways}} frequently manage to run into villains who are willing to hurt kids. This often leads to humiliating defeats at the hands of Molly and Klara.
* The celebrity team ComicBook/XForce (later called ComicBook/XStatix) overthrew their former coach in part because he planned to hand over a little boy with healing powers to pharmaceutical companies to be dissected.
* ComicBook/NormanOsborn visited Baxter Building to speak with Reed in one of the DarkReign stories (Dark Reign: Fantastic Four Vol 1 4). Unfortunately ComicBook/FantasticFour team was away at the time and the only people left in the building were Richards' children, Franklin and Valeria. Visit is tense, but more or less civilized, until Franklin showed up with Spider-Man's mask. It does not take long for Norman, known psychopath, to start shooting at kids.
* In the ComicBook/XMen graphic novel ''ComicBook/GodLovesManKills'', the evil of [[SinisterMinister Stryker]] and his Purifiers is established on the very first page as the Purifiers kill two young mutant children, the older of whom might be 10, the younger of whom is ''six or less''. At the end of the book, Stryker himself aims a gun at the adolescent Kitty Pryde.
* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': ALL the Dark Judges are willing to murder children, given their whole "[[AllCrimesAreEqual life is a crime]]" philosophy. Notably, Judge Fire burning down a primary school with everyone inside (earning him the nickname) when he was still human, Judge Mortis pursuing a group of juvie Judges like some undead ImplacableMan during Necropolis, Judge Fear forcing a child on board the ''Mayflower'' to gaze into his face, and Judge Death going on a killing spree in an orphan shelter to draw out Judge Anderson.
* In DC Comics' ''[[ComicBook/LegendsDC Legends]]'', Glorious Godfrey goes as far as slapping a child when she tries to speak reason to a crowd of adults that were surrounding the superheroes at the climax of the story, ready to let them have it - unfortunately for Godfrey, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain this is what frees the mob from his power]].
* In ''Comicbook/CableAndDeadpool'' Deadpool states that he would kill a child -- wouldn't like it, but would do so, as he's a merc and this is his job. He later attempts to kill a child [[spoiler:version of Cable, although he's been brainwashed and has just ''rescued'' Little Nate... this all actually MakesSenseInContext.]]
* In ''ComicBook/ADistantSoil'', there is actually a ''holiday'' for this on the planet Ovanan. In order to weed out children whose psychic potential is too great ("variants"), all children are ceremonially tested by the [[GodEmperor Avatar]], who kills any with potential that could allow them to threaten the ruling [[DeadlyDecadentCourt Hierarchy]]. [[NightmareFuel The kids have to stand in line and literally wait for their turn to find out whether they will live or die!]]
* ComicBook/HarleyQuinn, well... [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4471728.html See for yourself.]]
* In ''[[ComicBook/TheMultiversity The Multiversity Guidebook #1]]'', the alternate Sivanas have no problem luring a chibi Sivana into their number so that one of them can eat him. [[spoiler:Given everyone else on his world was a robot, that Sivana was found unpalatable]].
* In ''[[ComicBook/{{Convergence}} Convergence: Titans]]'', Dreamslayer is more than happy to resurrect and use Lian Harper to force her father into fighting his friends. He keeps his hands on her throat and caresses her cheek to demonstrate he's in control, so he quite literally has her life in his hands.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Violine}}'', the doctor, Muller, and Van Beursen all threaten Violine's life at one point or another, either by poison or with guns.
* In ''The Ultimate Doomsday Trilogy'', among the first people The Maker[=/=][[spoiler:Ultimate Reed Richards kills when he turns evil is his own little sister]].
* Part of what makes the MarvelUniverse such a CrapsackWorld, at least if you're part of the [[ComicBook/XMen extended X-family]] stories? This is a world where FantasticRacism is so strong that this trope is in place. Yes, there are humans in this world willing to physically abuse, torture and even ''kill'' kids, just for being born mutants. The 80s story ''ComicBook/GodLovesManKills'' actually ''opens'' with two grade school kids being hunted through the streets at night and then ''lynched'' in a ''playground'' by anti-mutant [[TheFundamentalist religious bigots]]. Meanwhile, the fortunately minor villain organization the U-men ''specializes'' in hunting down young mutants and [[HumanResources vivisecting them for the raw materials for super-power-granting organ transplants]]. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy There's a reason]] readers often complain that SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}'s KillEmAll plans for humans aren't unjustified.
* ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}} attempted to kill [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Franklin Richards]] during ''ComicBook/{{Onslaught}}'', both to rid himself of a rival and because he was [[EvenEvilHasStandards horrified by what Onslaught was doing]] and knew Franklin was a key part of his plans.
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* Reconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''. Helen has to explain to Dash and Violet that yes, real villains would hurt a child. And they do. Then again, the kids can fight back... [[spoiler: The fact that this is the case is also a [[EvenEvilHasStandards contributing factor]] to Mirage's HeelFaceTurn.]]
* The other PG Pixar Film, ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'', has the villain send dogs to attack the kid there, and before he died, almost shot the kid as well. Pixar seems to tell people that villains can, and WILL, harm and kill children if they have the option.
* A plan involving Randall and [[spoiler:Waternoose]] in ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' may not have specifically aimed at killing children, but the results of the Scream Extractor seem anything but harmless.
* ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'': The FauxAffablyEvil Ratigan is revealed -- in [[VillainSong song,]] no less - to have drowned widows and orphans. Near the end, during the Big Ben battle, he's shown kicking Olivia off a large gear, directly into the path of being crushed by two other gears. Luckily Basil is able to rescue her, just barely in time.
* ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'': Judge Claude Frollo, in the first few minutes of the film, would have dropped baby Quasimodo down a well if not for the intervention of the Archdeacon, who demanded that Frollo raise the infant to atone for killing Quasimodo's mother.
* [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant The Coachman]] in ''{{Disney/Pinocchio}}'' .
* Captain Hook of ''Disney/PeterPan'' puts a bomb in a house full of children and makes a teenage girl walk the plank.. and just watch him go all AxCrazy in the climax against Peter.
* Madam Mim in ''Disney/TheSwordInTheStone'' tells 12-year old Wart she's afraid she's going to have to kill him.. by turning herself into a cat while he's transformed into a little bird. It's downplayed because Merlin intervenes in time, but still.
* Shere Khan in ''Disney/TheJungleBook'' is insanely devoted to slaughtering a certain human boy.
* Percival [=McLeach=] from ''Disney/TheRescuersDownUnder'' was going to lower Cody into a river full of crocodiles.
* Shan-Yu from ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' is the most terrifying animated example of this trope. He picks up a little girl's doll that his scout bird brought him, talks about having to return it to her.. and the next time we see the doll, [[EmpathyDollShot it's lying in the barren wasteland of a town that was burned to the ground.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/ParaNorman'': [[spoiler: Agatha, a young girl who can talk to dead people like Norman can, is executed when the town's elites come to the conclusion that she is a witch.]]
** [[spoiler: And the modern day townspeople who were enthusiastically planning to BURN NORMAN TO DEATH.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/RecessSchoolsOut'' shows us that the villains ''will'' attack children, though they fail for the most part.
* The Grand Duke of Owls in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'', near the film's climax, ''asphyxiates'' child protagonist Edmund when the boy-turned-kitten refuses to give up, in a supremely dark example of MoodWhiplash. A combination of DisneyDeath and AllJustADream makes it better, but it's still shocking.
* King Candy in ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' [[spoiler:tried to delete Vanellope from the game's code, and when that failed turned her into a glitch. Then when she races him, he slams into her, tries to knock her out using a dislodged gearshift and finally pushes her in front of his car intending to smash her into a stalactite. This trope may be slightly out of place due to all characters being ageless video game characters, but Vanellope was programmed as 9 years old.]]
* ''Disney/TheLionKing'':
** The Hyenas and Scar. The former nearly eat Simba and Nala after they wander onto the elephant graveyards (although averted when Mufasa shows up) and Scar, who shows no qualms about putting his own ''nephew'' in extreme danger to achieve his ultimate goal becoming king of the Pride Lands. First, he tricks Simba into the gorge below Pride Rock before sending with the hyenas' help a stampede of wildebeests through, forcing Simba to hang on for dear life. Mufasa is able to rescue Simba, but this results in Scar murdering the injured Mufasa by throwing him back into the stampede. Later, as a mourning Simba is exiled from the Pride Lands, Scar sends the hyenas after Simba, who would have died if not for sheer luck.
* Jack Skellington from ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', apparently. A line from "Kidnap the Sandy Claws" suggests Jack will beat a trio of children if they harm the eponymous Claws, which is odd considering nothing in Jack's behaviour hints he'd do such a thing.
** Actually, Jack's not the one who fits in this category. The trio of children in question - Lock, Shock, and Barrel - are the minions of the BigBad, Oogie Boogie. They don't know Jack very well, but they live with Oogie. ''[[TheHero Jack]]'' wouldn't actually hurt kids, ''Oogie'' would have no problem with it. It's more likely that the trio assume that if they screw up their job, Jack will punish them the way Oogie would.
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheBoxtrolls'', Snatcher has no qualms with attempting to kill Eggs on multiple occasions as well as Winnie when SheKnowsTooMuch.
* Pitch Black in ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' is clearly willing to do something horrible to Jamie once he realizes that the kid is the only thing left between him and victory over the titular Guardians. It's unspecified exactly what Pitch was planning on doing, but anything he could have done (MindRape him with Nightmare Sand, flat out kill him, or turn him into a Fearling) fits this trope.
* ''Disney/BigHero6'' opens with the 14-year-old protagonist nearly being viciously assaulted by a SoreLoser gangster and it's quite clear that [[BigDamnHeroes had Tadashi not shown up when he did]], it would have ended ''very badly''.
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