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6th Dec '17 8:35:51 AM psionycx
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This is prime time's go-to plot device whenever embarrassing relatives come to visit the Girl Who Married Up or the blue-collar schlub wins the lottery. Basically, in TV Land, it is impossible to be both poor and intelligent unless you're the show's InsufferableGenius or precocious child. Indeed, one would almost be tempted to believe that there are no libraries.

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This is prime time's go-to plot device whenever embarrassing relatives come to visit the Girl Who Married Up or the blue-collar schlub wins the lottery. Basically, in TV Land, it is impossible to be both poor and intelligent unless you're the show's InsufferableGenius or precocious child. Indeed, one Such smart individuals may experience TallPoppySyndrome. One would almost be tempted to believe that there are no libraries.
libraries or schools beyond elementary.
10th Nov '17 3:46:23 AM Kalaong
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* A repeated theme in [[Creator/LarryNiven Niven]]/[[Creator/JerryPournelle Pournelle]] joint works(or maybe just Pournelle's); in their universes, when the going gets tough, the majority will turn to superstition and leave intellectuals to rot even while they're working their asses off to save them.
** In ''Literature/LucifersHammer'', the intellectuals go through seven colors of hell after the [[ColonyDrop comet impact]]. In end, the militarists are able to win a temporary reprieve for the world's last nuclear power plant -- at the cost of a brilliant scientist who made mustard gas to kill the attackers instead of insulin for his own diabetes -- but it's clear that unless a hard-line campaign to destroy the attackers begins ''immediately'', the plant will be destroyed. The survivors will have nothing of it until the last astronaut gives TheReasonYouSuckSpeech;
--->'''Rick Delanty''': So. We'll live. Through this winter, and the next one, and the one after that. '''As peasants!''' But if we take the easy way this time, we'll take it next time. And the next, and the next, and in fifty years your kids will hide under the bed when they hear the thunder! The way everybody used to hide from the great thunder gods. Peasants always believe in thunder gods. And the comet. We know what it was. In ten more years we'd have been able to push the damned thing out of our way! I've been in space. I won't go there again, but your children could! Hell yes! Give us that electric plant and twenty years and we'll be in space again. We know how, and all it takes is power, and that power's right there, not fifty miles from here, if we've just got guts enough to save it. Think about it. Those are the choices. Go on and be good peasants, safe peasants, superstitious peasants--- or have worlds to conquer again. To control the lightning again.
** In ''Fallen Angels'', an eco-fundamentalist political party has had bipartisan support for almost a generation. The entire country is on the verge of famine due to an ice age brought on by a ''lack'' of particulate matter in the atmosphere. Despite that, some intellectuals persevered for a time...
--->'''Sherrine Hartley''': Gran was a plant geneticist before they outlawed it. Pop—pop was a farmer. They still do a little bootleg bioengineering in their basement. Developed a cold-resistant strain of wheat that let them bring in a crop for three years after their neighbors went under. They had to stop last year, though. Gran seeded a rust virus that killed off their crop. ...their neighbors-—their good, kindly, salt-of-the-earth neighbors were starting to talk about witchcraft. They couldn't imagine any other reason why my grandparents' wheat thrived while theirs died. Peasants always believe in witchcraft.
10th Nov '17 3:45:25 AM Kalaong
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** In ''Fallen Angels'', an eco-fascist political party has had bipartisan support for almost a generation. The entire country is on the verge of famine due to an ice age brought on by a ''lack'' of particulate matter in the atmosphere. Despite that, some intellectuals persevered for a time...

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** In ''Fallen Angels'', an eco-fascist eco-fundamentalist political party has had bipartisan support for almost a generation. The entire country is on the verge of famine due to an ice age brought on by a ''lack'' of particulate matter in the atmosphere. Despite that, some intellectuals persevered for a time...
6th Nov '17 5:22:59 PM Kalaong
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* A repeated theme in [[Creator/LarryNiven Niven]]/[[Creator/JerryPournelle Pournelle]] joint works(or maybe just Pournelle's); in their universes, when the going gets tough, the majority will turn to superstition and leave intellectuals to rot even while they're working their asses off to save them.
** In ''Literature/LucifersHammer'', the intellectuals go through seven colors of hell after the [[ColonyDrop comet impact]]. In end, the militarists are able to win a temporary reprieve for the world's last nuclear power plant -- at the cost of a brilliant scientist who made mustard gas to kill the attackers instead of insulin for his own diabetes -- but it's clear that unless a hard-line campaign to destroy the attackers begins ''immediately'', the plant will be destroyed. The survivors will have nothing of it until the last astronaut gives TheReasonYouSuckSpeech;
--->'''Rick Delanty''': So. We'll live. Through this winter, and the next one, and the one after that. '''As peasants!''' But if we take the easy way this time, we'll take it next time. And the next, and the next, and in fifty years your kids will hide under the bed when they hear the thunder! The way everybody used to hide from the great thunder gods. Peasants always believe in thunder gods. And the comet. We know what it was. In ten more years we'd have been able to push the damned thing out of our way! I've been in space. I won't go there again, but your children could! Hell yes! Give us that electric plant and twenty years and we'll be in space again. We know how, and all it takes is power, and that power's right there, not fifty miles from here, if we've just got guts enough to save it. Think about it. Those are the choices. Go on and be good peasants, safe peasants, superstitious peasants--- or have worlds to conquer again. To control the lightning again.
** In ''Fallen Angels'', an eco-fascist political party has had bipartisan support for almost a generation. The entire country is on the verge of famine due to an ice age brought on by a ''lack'' of particulate matter in the atmosphere. Despite that, some intellectuals persevered for a time...
--->'''Sherrine Hartley''': Gran was a plant geneticist before they outlawed it. Pop—pop was a farmer. They still do a little bootleg bioengineering in their basement. Developed a cold-resistant strain of wheat that let them bring in a crop for three years after their neighbors went under. They had to stop last year, though. Gran seeded a rust virus that killed off their crop. ...their neighbors-—their good, kindly, salt-of-the-earth neighbors were starting to talk about witchcraft. They couldn't imagine any other reason why my grandparents' wheat thrived while theirs died. Peasants always believe in witchcraft.
29th Oct '17 11:53:07 AM dyson88
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** Also averted by Archie's neighbor, George Jefferson. He lacked even a high school education and started off as a janitor but was a shrewd businessman who [[SelfMadeMan taught himself the dry cleaning business]] and eventually [[PutOnABus "moved on up"]]. In one episode he showed he was too savvy to fall for a scam that Archie had fallen into.

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** Also averted by Archie's neighbor, [[TheJeffersons George Jefferson.Jefferson]]. He lacked even a high school education and started off as a janitor but was a shrewd businessman who [[SelfMadeMan taught himself the dry cleaning business]] and eventually [[PutOnABus "moved on up"]]. In one episode he showed he was too savvy to fall for a scam that Archie had fallen into.
25th Aug '17 7:12:58 AM HotelCalifornia
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* In the United States, the conservatives/Republican Party frequently accuse liberals/Democratic Party of believing in this trope and of trying to take away people's rights using this philosophy as justification. (Operative word: ACCUSES. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Whether these accusations are true can be discussed in the forums.]])
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16th Aug '17 12:25:57 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Series/{{Billions}}'' has a subversion. When Axe is investing in a proposed casino in a poor town upstate, he buys up a large amount of land for pennies on the dollar that will be valuable once the casino is built. However, one property owner is savvy enough to realize what's going on and refuses to accept Axe's lowball offer. Axe, realizing the guy has done his research and is smart enough to not get screwed over, offers a fair price (on the condition the owner throws in a vintage motorcycle he was restoring) which is accepted.

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* ''Series/{{Billions}}'' has a subversion. When Axe is investing in a proposed casino in a poor town upstate, he buys up a large amount of land for pennies on the dollar that will be valuable once the casino is built. However, one property owner is savvy enough to realize what's going on (his real estate agent girlfriend mentioned all the recent buys and his friend saw several businessmen in expensive clothes at a local diner so the guy decided to go to city hall to check the public records for the buyer) and refuses to accept Axe's lowball offer. Axe, realizing the guy has done his research and is smart enough to not get screwed over, offers a fair price (on the condition the owner throws in a vintage motorcycle he was restoring) which is accepted. He even admits he's impressed and wishes his employees had the guy's initiative.
5th Aug '17 8:51:39 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Series/{{Billions}}'' has a subversion. When Axe is investing in a proposed casino in a poor town upstate, he buys up a large amount of land that will be valuable once the casino is built. However, one property owner is savvy enough to realize what's going ands refuses to accept Axe's lowball offer. Axe, realizing the guy has done his research and is smart enough to not get screwed over, offers a fair price (on the condition the owner throws in a vintage motorcycle he was restoring) which is accepted.

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* ''Series/{{Billions}}'' has a subversion. When Axe is investing in a proposed casino in a poor town upstate, he buys up a large amount of land for pennies on the dollar that will be valuable once the casino is built. However, one property owner is savvy enough to realize what's going ands on and refuses to accept Axe's lowball offer. Axe, realizing the guy has done his research and is smart enough to not get screwed over, offers a fair price (on the condition the owner throws in a vintage motorcycle he was restoring) which is accepted.
5th Aug '17 8:49:19 PM kquinn0830
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* ''Series/{{Billions}}'' has a subversion. When Axe is investing in a proposed casino in a poor town upstate, he buys up a large amount of land that will be valuable once the casino is built. However, one property owner is savvy enough to realize what's going ands refuses to accept Axe's lowball offer. Axe, realizing the guy has done his research and is smart enough to not get screwed over, offers a fair price (on the condition the owner throws in a vintage motorcycle he was restoring) which is accepted.
16th Jul '17 9:14:13 AM A0Z1E4R7
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* Plankton's family in ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' comprises hillbillies with a taste for [[FrothyMugsOfWater root beer]]. [[spoiler:Sheldon]] Plankton is the only one of them to have gone to college, and is thoroughly ashamed of his uneducated family.

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* Plankton's family in ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' comprises hillbillies with a taste for [[FrothyMugsOfWater root beer]]. [[spoiler:Sheldon]] [[spoiler: [[EmbarrassingFirstName Sheldon]]]] Plankton is the only one of them to have gone to college, and is thoroughly ashamed of his uneducated family.
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