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7th May '18 7:06:55 AM HighCrate
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* Averted in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''. Elaine ''thinks'' she is the moral center of the group and the sane one but she is every bit as uncaring and antisocial as the rest of the group. Out of all the cast, Jerry is the most level-headed and Kramer is only one remotely close to being morally good. Of course, Elaine ''is'' OneOfTheBoys and was basically written as if she were a male character.

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* Averted in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''. Elaine ''thinks'' she is the moral center of the group and the sane one but she is every bit as uncaring and antisocial as the rest of the group. Out of all the cast, Jerry is the most level-headed and Kramer is only one remotely close to being morally good. Of course, Elaine ''is'' OneOfTheBoys and was basically written as if she were a male character.
7th May '18 1:23:55 AM TheCuza
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* Averted in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''. Elaine thinks She is the moral center of the group and the sane one but She is every bit as uncaring and antisocial as the rest of the group. Out of all the cast, Kramer was the only one shown as portraying anything close to kindness.
** And Jerry, though eccentric himself, is the most level headed of the main cast.

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* Averted in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''. Elaine thinks She ''thinks'' she is the moral center of the group and the sane one but She she is every bit as uncaring and antisocial as the rest of the group. Out of all the cast, Kramer was the only one shown as portraying anything close to kindness.
** And Jerry, though eccentric himself,
Jerry is the most level headed of the main cast.level-headed and Kramer is only one remotely close to being morally good. Of course, Elaine ''is'' OneOfTheBoys and was basically written as if she were a male character.
7th May '18 1:19:51 AM TheCuza
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7th May '18 1:19:31 AM TheCuza
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* Canadian comedian Mike [=MacDonald=] had a bit where he said that if men ever declare something "men only", and women are ''fine with that'' and don't demand that they also be allowed to participate, then it's obviously something [[TooDumbToLive incredibly stupid and dangerous]] that ''nobody'' should be doing. The example he used was the Running of the Bulls.
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6th May '18 7:58:52 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Referenced in Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Spindle's End'': In the country where the story is set, there's a folk belief that queens are more level-headed and generally better rulers than kings, and this belief is deeply ingrained enough that the local evil magicians go to the trouble of casting a lot of spells to make the royal line hardly ever produce female heirs.* Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium has a number of straight examples, from the Valar and downwards: Varda and Yavanna both seem to be epitomes of wisdom. So does Nienna, who actually is TheMentor of Olórin/Gandalf. On the Maia level, Melian comes out as the truly wise one, being the sane consultant of Thingol, and passing her wisdom on to Lúthien. Melian also councels and guides Túrin, Beren, Morwen and Húrin. She is also the one responsible for lifting the delusions Húrin has been victim to.

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* Referenced in Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Spindle's End'': In the country where the story is set, there's a folk belief that queens are more level-headed and generally better rulers than kings, and this belief is deeply ingrained enough that the local evil magicians go to the trouble of casting a lot of spells to make the royal line hardly ever produce female heirs.heirs.
* Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium has a number of straight examples, from the Valar and downwards: Varda and Yavanna both seem to be epitomes of wisdom. So does Nienna, who actually is TheMentor of Olórin/Gandalf. On the Maia level, Melian comes out as the truly wise one, being the sane consultant of Thingol, and passing her wisdom on to Lúthien. Melian also councels and guides Túrin, Beren, Morwen and Húrin. She is also the one responsible for lifting the delusions Húrin has been victim to.
23rd Apr '18 3:43:16 AM HighCrate
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* Played with in ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}'', with Kala being the nice gorilla who adopts Tarzan and Kerchak refusing to be his father, believing that he can only bring harm to gorillas, even as a baby. However, compared to other non-princess Disney movies, it has a wide array of female characters, which are generally treated equally to the men. Terk is definitely not wise, being a jock figure that happens to be a lesbian gorilla, while Jane is kind but also clearly quirky. And [[SuperPersistentPredator Sabor]], [[TheSociopath well]]...
22nd Apr '18 7:32:36 PM Carliro
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* Played straight in ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}'', with Kala being the nice gorilla who adopts Tarzan and Kerchak refusing to be his father, believing that he can only bring harm to gorillas, even as a baby.

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* Played straight with in ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}'', with Kala being the nice gorilla who adopts Tarzan and Kerchak refusing to be his father, believing that he can only bring harm to gorillas, even as a baby.baby. However, compared to other non-princess Disney movies, it has a wide array of female characters, which are generally treated equally to the men. Terk is definitely not wise, being a jock figure that happens to be a lesbian gorilla, while Jane is kind but also clearly quirky. And [[SuperPersistentPredator Sabor]], [[TheSociopath well]]...
21st Apr '18 10:46:25 AM TompaDompa
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* Carmen from ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife'', is probably the sole Sanchez to think dying in a bullring is not that great.



* Carmen from ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife'', is probably the sole Sanchez to think dying in a bullring is not that great.



* In ''Film/AnAutumnAfternoon'', Akiko is much more sensible than her husband Koichi when it comes to financial matters.



* Mutsuta's wife in ''Film/{{Sanjuro}}'' is smarter than most of the men in the movie, save for Sanjuro and Mutsuta, and teaches Sanjuro a thing or two about violence. He tries to take her advice to heart.



* Mutsuta's wife in ''Film/{{Sanjuro}}'' is smarter than most of the men in the movie, save for Sanjuro and Mutsuta, and teaches Sanjuro a thing or two about violence. He tries to take her advice to heart.
15th Apr '18 5:09:38 PM CeaselessPhoenicopterine
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** In "The Goons" a dumb race was hosted with the dumbest people on Elmore,a t least in Gumball's opinion, and all participants were male (they could have used [[Cloudcuckoolander Sussie]] the chinikin puppet girl, but she would be too hard to animate especially in a season 1 episode, so she was probably replaced by Rocky who is a regular puppet)
13th Apr '18 3:11:11 PM Roxkstargirl
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* Pick a princess from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', any princess at all, and compare her to [[IdleRich Prince]] [[UpperClassTwit Blueblood]]. On that note, compare the villains like Nightmare Moon and Queen Chrysalis [[note]]FreudianExcuse for the former, and out for the survival of her species for the latter[[/note]] to Discord, who simply did things ForTheEvulz[[note]]He probably considered ponies as far beneath him as playthings, though.[[/note]], and King Sombra, who wanted to enslave the ponies. Due to this being a series primarily made for girls, most of the wise and competent roles are filled by females who get the lion's share of CharacterDevelopment, while males are often limited to supporting characters or antagonists tend to be either evil or immature.\\\
There are inversions, however. Spike frequently plays the role of the StraightMan to whenever Twilight (and sometimes the entire Mane six) starts to get a little anxious and crazy. TheStoic Big Mac also acts as the most sensible member of his all-female part of the Apple family. Furthermore, Celestia may take the cake in being the wisest character on the show, but the flashback in the "Reflections" arc in the comic series has the younger Celestia ignoring the male Star Swirl's warnings to not utilize a portal to travel to another dimension.

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* Pick a princess from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', any princess at all, and compare her to [[IdleRich Prince]] [[UpperClassTwit Blueblood]]. On that note, compare the villains like Nightmare Moon and Queen Chrysalis [[note]]FreudianExcuse for the former, and out for the survival of her species for the latter[[/note]] to Discord, who simply did things ForTheEvulz[[note]]He probably considered ponies as far beneath him as playthings, though.[[/note]], and King Sombra, who wanted to enslave the ponies. Due to this being a series primarily made for girls, most of the wise and competent roles are filled by females who get the lion's share of CharacterDevelopment, while males are often limited to supporting characters or antagonists tend to be either evil or immature.\\\
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There are inversions, however. Spike frequently plays the role of the StraightMan to whenever Twilight (and sometimes the entire Mane six) starts to get a little anxious and crazy. TheStoic Big Mac also acts as the most sensible member of his all-female part of the Apple family. Furthermore, Celestia may take the cake in being the wisest character on the show, but the flashback in the "Reflections" arc in the comic series has the younger Celestia ignoring the male Star Swirl's warnings to not utilize a portal to travel to another dimension.
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