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13th Sep '17 6:34:23 AM HighCrate
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* This is one of the primary differences between witches and wizards in Literature/{{Discworld}}, particularly in the way they use magic. Wizards tend to be flashy and theatrical and have a social structure based on academia; witches have more sensible, practical magic and more commonly take on the roles of local midwives or herbalists.
** Not just the witches and wizards. The women of the Discworld are almost invariably smart and down to earth. There is the occasional one-off ditz, but there are no female main characters in the spirit of Rincewind or Nobby.
** That said, it's also shown that women can be just as flawed as men, it's just that the books are far subtler when pointing out that, for example, Granny Weatherwax alienates people for no real reason or that Magrat is a ditzy pseudo-New Age type.

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* This is one of the primary differences between witches and wizards in Literature/{{Discworld}}, particularly in the way they use magic. Wizards tend to be flashy and theatrical and have a social structure based on academia; witches have more sensible, practical magic and more commonly take on the roles of local midwives or herbalists.
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herbalists. Not just the witches and wizards. The women of the Discworld are almost invariably smart and down to earth. There is the occasional one-off ditz, but there are no female main characters in the spirit of Rincewind or Nobby.
** That said, it's also shown that women can be just as flawed as men, it's just that the books are far subtler when pointing out that, for example, Granny Weatherwax alienates people for no real reason or that Magrat is a ditzy pseudo-New Age type.
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13th Sep '17 12:51:30 AM WanderingBrowser
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** That said, it's also shown that women can be just as flawed as men, it's just that the books are far subtler when pointing out that, for example, Granny Weatherwax alienates people for no real reason or that Magrat is a ditzy pseudo-New Age type.


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** The trope is discussed and zigzagged in ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment''. Whilst it's true that the day is ultimately saved by the efforts of the disguised female soldiers, it's also pointed out repeatedly, both explicitly and subtly, that women can be just as stupid, petty and cruel as the men around them. This is particularly emphasized by the climatic reveal that [[spoiler:over a third of the High Command are women, and they haven't done a ''thing'' to stop the EternalWar devastating their country]].
20th Aug '17 4:47:17 PM BattleMaster
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': While we only ever see "Eve"/[[spoiler: Urdnot Bakara]], it appears that Krogan women are this in comparison to their men. It's mentioned that the Krogan women got so sick of the men's BloodKnight tendencies continuing to destroy Tuchanka, they decided to split off and form their own separate, female-only clans.

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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': While we only ever see "Eve"/[[spoiler: Urdnot Bakara]], it appears that Krogan krogan women are this in comparison to their men. It's mentioned that the Krogan women got so sick of the men's BloodKnight tendencies continuing to destroy Tuchanka, they decided to split off and form their own separate, female-only clans.clans.
** Averted in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda'': of the krogan characters, Kesh is level-headed and the only one member of the leadership on the Nexus to fully support Ryder without qualification, but Overlord Morda is a hothead who got her position due to fighting the previous clan head and tends to be a JerkAss most of the time.
16th Aug '17 9:58:38 AM HighCrate
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* Something of an aversion. In the third ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' game, between Phoenix, Mia, and Edgeworth, it's the latter that seems to never get the chance to say anything face-palmingly stupid when the options present themselves. Of course, those two saying them is completely up to the player.
16th Aug '17 9:03:41 AM Gosicrystal
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* Something of an aversion. In the third Ace Attorney game, between Phoenix, Mia, and Edgeworth, it's the latter that seems to never get the chance to say anything face-palmingly stupid when the options present themselves. Of course, those two saying them is completely up to the player.

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* Something of an aversion. In the third Ace Attorney ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' game, between Phoenix, Mia, and Edgeworth, it's the latter that seems to never get the chance to say anything face-palmingly stupid when the options present themselves. Of course, those two saying them is completely up to the player.
9th Aug '17 8:44:26 PM Discar
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** In "Robot of Sherwood," the Doctor and Robin Hood spend the entire episode yelling at each other like children. Clara spends most of the episode trying to keep them calm and focused on the threat of the week ([[PassThePopcorn except at the very beginning]], before she knew there was a threat). It's to the point that when the three get captured, a guard arrives to take the rebel leader to see the Sheriff. While the Doctor and Robin are arguing over which of them is ''obviously'' the leader, Clara just lets the guard unlock her shackles and leaves with him.
4th Aug '17 7:43:49 AM HighCrate
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Dan Weiss describes the Tyrells as: "...basically a secret matriarchy [...] where the men tend to be handsome dopes and the women are really the brains behind the operation."
** Cersei Lannister, at times. For example, she is completely right about Margaery Tyrell not being as harmless as she seems. Joffrey ignores her. She herself believes this trope to be true, in tandem with AllMenArePerverts; during her pathetic attempt to blackmail Tyrion she says that thinking with their penises is a FatalFlaw present in all men, again, playing into her {{Hypocrite}} character. She considers men's uncontrollable sexual desires to be their biggest weakness, and yet her own sexual desires for Jaime that she either couldn't or wouldn't control despite the knowledge that the whole affair could backfire horribly is what ultimately leads to all of the events in the series.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
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''Series/GameOfThrones'': Dan Weiss describes the Tyrells as: "...basically a secret matriarchy [...] where the men tend to be handsome dopes and the women are really the brains behind the operation."
** Cersei Lannister, at times. For example, she is completely right about Margaery Tyrell not being as harmless as she seems. Joffrey ignores her. She herself believes this trope to be true, in tandem with AllMenArePerverts; during her pathetic attempt to blackmail Tyrion she says that thinking with their penises is a FatalFlaw present in all men, again, playing into her {{Hypocrite}} character. She considers men's uncontrollable sexual desires to be their biggest weakness, and yet her own sexual desires for Jaime that she either couldn't or wouldn't control despite the knowledge that the whole affair could backfire horribly is what ultimately leads to all of the events in the series.
3rd Aug '17 1:15:49 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Dan Weiss describes the Tyrells as: "...basically a secret matriarchy [...] where the men tend to be handsome dopes and the women are really the brains behind the operation."

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Dan Weiss describes the Tyrells as: "...basically a secret matriarchy [...] where the men tend to be handsome dopes and the women are really the brains behind the operation.""
** Cersei Lannister, at times. For example, she is completely right about Margaery Tyrell not being as harmless as she seems. Joffrey ignores her. She herself believes this trope to be true, in tandem with AllMenArePerverts; during her pathetic attempt to blackmail Tyrion she says that thinking with their penises is a FatalFlaw present in all men, again, playing into her {{Hypocrite}} character. She considers men's uncontrollable sexual desires to be their biggest weakness, and yet her own sexual desires for Jaime that she either couldn't or wouldn't control despite the knowledge that the whole affair could backfire horribly is what ultimately leads to all of the events in the series.
16th Jul '17 6:29:15 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Subverted in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' with Cersei Lannister, who is power-hungry, smug and pretty much amoral, in comparison with her more anti-heroic brothers who, even though they do also morally-questionable acts, they become far more sympathetic. Cersei´s only saving grace is her MamaBear attitude towards her children, but is overshadowed by her atrocious actions. In the [[GameOfThrones TV show]] she has a slightly more sympathetic protrayal, as some of her most evil acts in the book are performed by Joffrey instead. However, she still commits atrocities, such as when she [[spoiler: blows up Baelor Sept, killing thousands and causing several collateral damage]].

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* Subverted in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' with Cersei Lannister, who is power-hungry, smug and pretty much amoral, in comparison with her more anti-heroic brothers who, even though they do also morally-questionable acts, they become far more sympathetic. Cersei´s only saving grace is her MamaBear attitude towards her children, but is overshadowed by her atrocious actions. In the [[GameOfThrones [[Series/GameOfThrones TV show]] she has a slightly more sympathetic protrayal, as some of her most evil acts in the book are performed by Joffrey instead. However, she still commits atrocities, such as when she [[spoiler: blows up Baelor Sept, killing thousands and causing several collateral damage]].
15th Jun '17 7:05:33 AM rafi
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*** Paperinika made a comeback in the Ultraheroes storyline, where all the major Disney comics superheroes teamed up. This time, though, she's been written as even more incompetent than Donald when the two get together; mainly because she is so driven to prove herself Paperinik's equal that she worries about that more than the job at hand, and they end up bickering when they should be saving the day.

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*** Paperinika made a comeback in the Ultraheroes ''ComicBook/{{Ultraheroes}}'' storyline, where all the major Disney comics superheroes teamed up. This time, though, she's been written as even more incompetent than Donald when the two get together; mainly because she is so driven to prove herself Paperinik's equal that she worries about that more than the job at hand, and they end up bickering when they should be saving the day.
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