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* The series ''Manga/DeathNote'' features a protagonist who eliminates evil... by using a [[ArtifactOfDoom magic notebook that causes anyone whose name is written in it to die]]. He ultimately [[WellIntentionedExtremist wants to turn the world into a crime-free utopia]] and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans believes anything he does is justified by his noble goal]]. The main antagonist is a world-famous detective determined to get to the bottom of a suspicious rash of unexplained deaths, and he realizes it's all the work of a supernaturally prolific serial killer who must be stopped at all costs. Both claim to be motivated by a strong sense of justice. Though WordOfGod says L is actually not motivated by justice at all, he is nonetheless the more heroic of the two, because Kira is hanging out in the deep end of the KnightTemplar pool.
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* The series ''Manga/DeathNote'' features [[Characters/DeathNoteLightYagami a protagonist protagonist]] who eliminates evil... by using a [[ArtifactOfDoom magic notebook that causes anyone whose name is written in it to die]]. He ultimately [[WellIntentionedExtremist wants to turn the world into a crime-free utopia]] and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans believes anything he does is justified by his noble goal]]. The main antagonist is a world-famous detective determined to get to the bottom of a suspicious rash of unexplained deaths, and he realizes it's all the work of a supernaturally prolific serial killer who must be stopped at all costs. Both claim to be motivated by a strong sense of justice. Though WordOfGod says L is actually not motivated by justice at all, he is nonetheless the more heroic of the two, because Kira is hanging out in the deep end of the KnightTemplar pool.
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* In ''Fanfic/DescribingTheSeriesViaReferences'', Emerald begins having doubts about things after her group spies on Team RWBY going over a list of references from our world, implicitly describing Team RWBY as the "heroes" of their show, and wonders if that would make Cinder Fall's group the "villains". Mercury takes a moral relativistic approach to it however, saying they're only the "villains" because they oppose RWBY, and that "stories" need to divide people into terms like "hero" and "villain" so they can be interesting, citing other hypotheticals to prove his point.[[labelnote:*]]Such as if the "story" followed Team SSSN, then Blake would just be the "mean girl" [[AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul for putting down Sun]], or how none of them would even be relevant were it Team ABRN's story.[[/labelnote]] Outside of that though, they're ''[[ThisIsReality not a story]]'', they're just people on opposing sides, and what Emerald ''should'' be asking is if this is the side she wants to be on. This is ultimately played as a case of WrongGenreSavvy however, as while Mercury's viewpoint would be valid in a story of GrayAndGreyMorality, he's unaware that Cinder works for ''Salem'', someone seeking to cause TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, an end goal that would be seen as evil ''regardless'' of morality or labels.
-->'''Mercury:''' We aren't the good guys, or the bad guys. We’re just... people. Making our way through life. No weirdos from other realities are going to change that.
-->'''Mercury:''' We aren't the good guys, or the bad guys. We’re just... people. Making our way through life. No weirdos from other realities are going to change that.
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* ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'': This turns out to be a cental part of the OntologicalMystery of the show. [[spoilers:It turns out that absolutely no one, not even the highest Angels in Heaven, know what, exactly causes a soul to be sent to Heaven or Hell. They've tried to figure out a rough framework based on the sort of people who end up in either place, but it's maddeningly vague. Even worse, no one wants to look too deep into it, as it is implied that doing so is part of what caused Lucifer to fall in the first place.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'': This turns out to be a cental part of the OntologicalMystery of the show. [[spoilers:It [[spoiler:It turns out that absolutely no one, not even the highest Angels in Heaven, know what, exactly causes a soul to be sent to Heaven or Hell. They've tried to figure out a rough framework based on the sort of people who end up in either place, but it's maddeningly vague. Even worse, no one wants to look too deep into it, as it is implied that doing so is part of what caused Lucifer to fall in the first place.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'': This turns out to be a cental part of the OntologicalMystery of the show. [[spoilers:It turns out that absolutely no one, not even the highest Angels in Heaven, know what, exactly causes a soul to be sent to Heaven or Hell. They've tried to figure out a rough framework based on the sort of people who end up in either place, but it's maddeningly vague. Even worse, no one wants to look too deep into it, as it is implied that doing so is part of what caused Lucifer to fall in the first place.]]
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** Vimes said something like, "He had heard that good and evil were a matter of perspective, though of course this sort of thing was only said by people in the category traditionally considered 'evil', in ''Literature/TheFifthElephant''.
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** Vimes said something like, "He had heard that good and evil were a matter of perspective, though of course this sort of thing was only said by people in the category traditionally considered 'evil', 'evil'", in ''Literature/TheFifthElephant''.
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** As Lord Vetinari says: "I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, [[BlackAndGrayMorality always and only, the bad people,]] but ''[[EvilVersusEvil some of them are on opposite sides."]]'' Unusually for this trope, he's on the same side as the hero. Or at least, Vetinari is more on the side of his ''city'' (and the people in it). He isn't really on the same side as the heroes, he just keeps them on the city payroll because they dislike some of the same things he does, and most pertinently because they help keep the city running.
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** As Lord Vetinari says: "I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, [[BlackAndGrayMorality always and only, the bad people,]] but ''[[EvilVersusEvil some of them are on opposite sides."]]'' ]]''" Unusually for this trope, he's on the same side as the hero. Or at least, Vetinari is more on the side of his ''city'' (and the people in it). He isn't really on the same side as the heroes, he just keeps them on the city payroll because they dislike some of the same things he does, and most pertinently because they help keep the city running.
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* Parodied in WebVideo/{{solidjj}}'s "Genocidal Spider-Man Is a Nice Guy", where alternative-universe Carnage-symbiote Spider-Man tries to make the original question which one of them is really evil. Since he's an ObviouslyEvil OmnicidalManiac, it really doesn't work.
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* Parodied in WebVideo/{{solidjj}}'s "Genocidal Spider-Man Is a Nice Guy", where alternative-universe Carnage-symbiote Spider-Man tries to make the original question which one of them is really evil. Since he's an ObviouslyEvil OmnicidalManiac, it really doesn't work.
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* Morty's EvilCounterpart from ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' poses this question when his masterplan comes to fruition. True, he may be power-hungry and willing to kill anyone who gets in his way, but he points out that the main Rick and Morty [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality have committed similar crimes]] and that the only reason he's considered an evil Morty is because he refuses to be a hapless flunky to someone like Rick.
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* Morty's [[Characters/RickAndMortyEvilMorty Morty's]] EvilCounterpart from ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' poses this question when his masterplan comes to fruition. True, he may be power-hungry and willing to kill anyone who gets in his way, but he points out that the main Rick and Morty [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality have committed similar crimes]] and that the only reason he's considered an evil Morty is because he refuses to be a hapless flunky to someone like Rick.
