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7th Dec '17 12:21:45 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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'''Shepard:''' [[GenreSavvy I've just learned you have to ask about these things.]]

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'''Shepard:''' [[GenreSavvy I've just learned you have to ask about these things.]]
6th Dec '17 5:09:38 PM BluTaiger
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In the end, one of two things happens. Rarely, the "Well Done, Son!" Guy will turn out to have some kind of [[BrokenPedestal massive character flaw]], and our hero will realize that it's been a mistake to weight his opinion so highly. This may result in the betrayed hero CallingTheOldManOut. Most of the time, though, everything comes to a head when the "Well Done, Son!" Guy finally asks the hero why he's gone to such ridiculous ends. The hero fesses up, and the "Well Done, Son!" Guy explains that he's respected the hero all along, and assumed the hero already knew (YouDidntAsk). If the "Well Done, Son!" Guy is the hero's friend instead of his father, he'll often also explain that he'd always desperately wanted the respect of the hero as well (hell, sometimes the ''father'' wanted the kid's respect, especially if there's something big and nasty in his past, probably either ignored by or unknown to the hero).

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In the end, one of two things happens. Rarely, the "Well Done, Son!" Guy will turn out to have some kind of [[BrokenPedestal massive character flaw]], and our hero will realize that it's been a mistake to weight his opinion so highly. This may result in the betrayed hero CallingTheOldManOut. Most of the time, though, everything comes to a head when the "Well Done, Son!" Guy finally asks the hero why he's gone to such ridiculous ends. The hero fesses up, and the "Well Done, Son!" Guy explains that he's respected the hero all along, and [[YouDidntAsk assumed the hero already knew (YouDidntAsk).knew]]. If the "Well Done, Son!" Guy is the hero's friend instead of his father, he'll often also explain that he'd always desperately wanted the respect of the hero as well (hell, sometimes the ''father'' wanted the kid's respect, especially if there's something big and nasty in his past, probably either ignored by or unknown to the hero).
25th Nov '17 8:31:25 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': Verity from ''Anime/PokemonTheMovieIChooseYou'' lives in the shadow of her successful Pokémon trainer mother [[spoiler:Cynthia]] and feels that nothing she does is enough for her mom. She left Sinnoh for Kanto and hasn't talked to her since.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': Verity from ''Anime/PokemonTheMovieIChooseYou'' ''Anime/PokemonIChooseYou'' lives in the shadow of her successful Pokémon trainer mother [[spoiler:Cynthia]] and feels that nothing she does is enough for her mom. She left Sinnoh for Kanto and hasn't talked to her since.
25th Nov '17 8:30:48 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': Verity from ''Anime/PokemonTheMovieIChooseYou'' lives in the shadow of her successful Pokémon trainer mother [[spoiler:Cynthia]] and feels that nothing she does is enough for her mom. She left Sinnoh for Kanto and hasn't talked to her since.
25th Nov '17 1:15:41 AM Mhazard
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** In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren wants to live up to Supreme Leader Snoke's expectations, and desperately wants to live up to the legacy of [[spoiler:his grandfather]], Darth Vader. However, this is not the case for his actual father, [[spoiler:Han Solo]], whom Kylo describes as "a disappointment". [[spoiler:Furthermore, Kylo kills him in order to assert his allegiance to the Dark Side and his loyalty to Snoke]].
9th Nov '17 9:35:38 AM Njein
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** This trope applies to Prince Hans of the Southern Isles to extremes, being the primary motivation behind his actions in Arendelle, as shown in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart''. [[spoiler:His father is an extremely stone-cold and unfeeling man who views [[TheUnfavorite his youngest son]] with outright contempt, [[ParentalNeglect seeing him]] as a worthless "weakling" and incompetent coward compared to his twelve older sons and deliberately does nothing to stop them from bullying him. As part of his SocialDarwinist beliefs, any of his thirteen sons showing a softer side is unacceptable and a sign of weakness, so it must by countered by forcing them to be "toughened up in the Westergaard mold". To counter his youngest son's weak nature, he encourages his older sons to bully and torment Hans at his expense, which to him is a "sign of strength", and believes it's all "good politics" so Hans could be forced to use his family's methods of controlling the subjects, [[EvenEvilHasStandards despite what Hans has to say or object.]] Hans' older brothers (sans one) regularly bully and even humiliate him during political or family gatherings, alongside taunting him for failing to meet their father's high but extremely cruel expectations for running their kingdom and not fighting back at their taunts, suggesting his more villainous actions and decision to act tough are [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex a veneer of him trying to deny his self-hatred and apparent depression by behaving the way his father wanted him to]]. Despite this, the primary motivation for all the great lengths that he goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father who dismisses him as a nuisance and a "throwaway", and the respect of the twelve older brothers who routinely ignore or bully him. Ironically and tragically, this obsession to prove his worth to his family clouded his judgement, and blew up his one-way ticket to escape his abusive family, his chance to actually find love or friendship with either Anna or Elsa, and his desire for a new life just because he was too stubbornly determined to earn his family's respect. His original intent was to escape his homeland for good and prove his worth to his father and brothers in the hopes of being recognized as a prodigal son and dutiful brother, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite results. To say that Hans has daddy issues is a big {{Understatement}}.]]

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** This trope applies to Prince Hans of the Southern Isles to extremes, being the primary motivation behind his actions in Arendelle, as shown in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart''. [[spoiler:His father is an extremely stone-cold and unfeeling man who views [[TheUnfavorite his youngest son]] with outright contempt, [[ParentalNeglect seeing him]] as a worthless "weakling" and incompetent coward compared to his twelve older sons and deliberately does nothing to stop them from bullying him. As part of his SocialDarwinist beliefs, any of his thirteen sons showing a softer side is unacceptable and a sign of weakness, so it must by countered by forcing them to be "toughened up in the Westergaard mold". To counter his youngest son's weak nature, he encourages his older sons to bully and torment Hans at his expense, which to him is a "sign of strength", and believes it's all "good politics" so Hans could be forced to use his family's methods of controlling the subjects, [[EvenEvilHasStandards despite what Hans has to say or object.]] Hans' older brothers (sans one) regularly bully and even humiliate him during political or family gatherings, alongside taunting him for failing to meet their father's high but extremely cruel expectations for running their kingdom and not fighting back at their taunts, suggesting his more villainous actions and decision to act tough are [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex a veneer of him trying to deny his self-hatred and apparent depression by behaving the way his father wanted him to]]. Despite this, the primary motivation for all the great lengths that he goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father who dismisses him as a nuisance and a "throwaway", and the respect of the twelve older brothers who routinely ignore or bully him. Ironically and tragically, this obsession to prove his worth to his family clouded his judgement, and he blew up his one-way ticket to escape his abusive family, his chance to actually find love or friendship with either Anna or Elsa, and his desire for a new life just because he was too stubbornly determined to earn his family's respect. His original intent was to escape his homeland for good and prove his worth to his father and brothers in the hopes of being recognized as a prodigal son and dutiful brother, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite results. To say that Hans has daddy issues is a big {{Understatement}}.]]
7th Nov '17 4:33:18 PM DuelMark
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': The episode "Nothing To Fear" establishes that, after a former colleague of his father seeing Bruce as nothing more than a playboy, Batman's greatest fear is that he's a disgrace to his family. Alfred assures him that his father would indeed be proud of what he's done.
1st Nov '17 3:56:35 PM Njein
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** This trope applies to Prince Hans of the Southern Isles to extremes, being the primary motivation behind his actions in Arendelle, as shown in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart''. [[spoiler: His father is an extremely stone-cold and unfeeling man who views [[TheUnfavorite his youngest son]] with outright contempt, [[ParentalNeglect seeing him]] as a worthless "weakling" and incompetent coward compared to his twelve older sons and deliberately does nothing to stop them from bullying him. To him, any of his thirteen sons who shows a softer side is a sign of weakness, so it must by countered by forcing them to be "toughened up in the Westergaard mold". To counter his youngest son's weak nature, he encourages his older sons to bully and torment Hans at his expense, which to him is a "sign of strength", and believes it's all "good politics" so Hans could be forced to use his family's methods of controlling the subjects, [[EvenEvilHasStandards despite what Hans has to say or object.]] Hans' older brothers (sans one) regularly bully and even humiliate him during political meetings or family gatherings, alongside taunting him for failing to meet their father's high but extremely cruel expectations for running their kingdom and not fighting back at their taunts, suggesting his more villainous actions are [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex him trying to deny his self-hatred and apparent depression by behaving the way his father wanted him to]]. Despite this, the primary motivation for all the great lengths that he goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father who dismisses him as a nuisance and a "throwaway", and the respect of the twelve older brothers who routinely ignore or bully him. He blew up his one-way ticket to escape his abusive family, his chance to actually find love or friendship with either Anna or Elsa, and his desire for a new life just because he was too stubbornly determined to earn his family's respect. His original intent was to escape his homeland for good and prove his worth to his father and brothers in the hopes of being recognized as a prodigal son and dutiful brother, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite results. To say that Hans has daddy issues is a big {{Understatement}}.]]

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** This trope applies to Prince Hans of the Southern Isles to extremes, being the primary motivation behind his actions in Arendelle, as shown in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart''. [[spoiler: His [[spoiler:His father is an extremely stone-cold and unfeeling man who views [[TheUnfavorite his youngest son]] with outright contempt, [[ParentalNeglect seeing him]] as a worthless "weakling" and incompetent coward compared to his twelve older sons and deliberately does nothing to stop them from bullying him. To him, As part of his SocialDarwinist beliefs, any of his thirteen sons who shows showing a softer side is unacceptable and a sign of weakness, so it must by countered by forcing them to be "toughened up in the Westergaard mold". To counter his youngest son's weak nature, he encourages his older sons to bully and torment Hans at his expense, which to him is a "sign of strength", and believes it's all "good politics" so Hans could be forced to use his family's methods of controlling the subjects, [[EvenEvilHasStandards despite what Hans has to say or object.]] Hans' older brothers (sans one) regularly bully and even humiliate him during political meetings or family gatherings, alongside taunting him for failing to meet their father's high but extremely cruel expectations for running their kingdom and not fighting back at their taunts, suggesting his more villainous actions and decision to act tough are [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex a veneer of him trying to deny his self-hatred and apparent depression by behaving the way his father wanted him to]]. Despite this, the primary motivation for all the great lengths that he goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father who dismisses him as a nuisance and a "throwaway", and the respect of the twelve older brothers who routinely ignore or bully him. He Ironically and tragically, this obsession to prove his worth to his family clouded his judgement, and blew up his one-way ticket to escape his abusive family, his chance to actually find love or friendship with either Anna or Elsa, and his desire for a new life just because he was too stubbornly determined to earn his family's respect. His original intent was to escape his homeland for good and prove his worth to his father and brothers in the hopes of being recognized as a prodigal son and dutiful brother, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite results. To say that Hans has daddy issues is a big {{Understatement}}.]]



** The primary motivation for all the desperate lengths that Prince Zuko goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father [[AbusiveParents who burned, scarred, and exiled him]] under the pretext of a SnipeHunt. Eventually [[spoiler: Zuko is allowed to come home and receives his father's approval, only to discover that it is not as fulfilling as he had expected, precipitating his Heel Face Turn]]. Occasionally, he shows traits of this towards his uncle Iroh. [[spoiler: After his HeelFaceTurn, he accepts Iroh as a ParentalSubstitute and becomes this full time.]]

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** The primary motivation for all the desperate lengths that Prince Zuko goes to, and the terrible decisions he makes, is to get the approval of the father [[AbusiveParents who burned, scarred, and exiled him]] under the pretext of a SnipeHunt. Eventually [[spoiler: Zuko is allowed to come home and receives his father's approval, only to discover that it is not as fulfilling as he had expected, precipitating his Heel Face Turn]].Hee FaceTurn]]. Occasionally, he shows traits of this towards his uncle Iroh. [[spoiler: After his HeelFaceTurn, he accepts Iroh as a ParentalSubstitute and becomes this full time.]]
23rd Oct '17 10:54:27 AM MsZephy7
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** With the reveal that Carolina is the Director's daughter, this paints a different picture as to why Carolina was so determined to be Number One on the leaderboard and why she was resentful towards the current Number One Tex, who the Director shows blatant favoritism towards. For Carolina, it wasn't about being the best but just getting some sign of approval from her cold, distant father.
22nd Oct '17 6:32:41 AM HeyFella
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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Bowser Jr. will do anything to make his father proud. However, it's a downplayed example, as SelfDemonstrating/{{Bowser}} is already extremely proud of his son, and he knows it; he just wants to ''keep'' making his dad proud.

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Bowser Jr. will do anything to make his father proud. However, it's a downplayed example, as SelfDemonstrating/{{Bowser}} [[Characters/SuperMarioBrosBowser Bowser]] is already extremely proud of his son, and he knows it; he just wants to ''keep'' making his dad proud.
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