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21st Aug '17 8:59:46 PM PaulA
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* Odile in Creator/MercedesLackey's retelling of ''Swan Lake'' (''Literature/TheBlackSwan'') is one of these. When she finally realizes Baron von Rothbart is only using her for her magical potential, she turns on him.
** In the ''Last Herald-Mage'' trilogy of The ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'', Vanyel gets a great helping of this, as a great deal of his life is spent in trying to [[ChronicHeroSyndrome be heroic enough]] to get his father to accept him as a person, thanks to his "flaw" of being gay.
** Lena Marchand is a female example, desperate for her father's approval. It doesn't help that Master Bard Tobias Marchand is an egotistical JerkAss who doesn't even recognize Lena when they accidentally run into each other at the beginning of ''Intrigues''.
** Princess Andromeda spends most of ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms One Good Knight]]'' as a Well Done Daughter Girl. As it turns out (and as anyone with a passing knowledge of mythology will know), Queen Cassiopeia is ''not'' a nice person.
** Silverblade, Tadrith, and Keenath (from ''The Silver Gryphon'') are all examples in different ways. Tadrith is frustrated with the default "he's almost as good at X as Skandranon" "compliments" he gets from everyone, and wants his father to see him as an independent gryphon. Keenath loves Skan, but knows he has nothing in common with his father. Silverblade is simply convinced that Amberdrake will never be able to accept Blade's chosen life-path.
** Subverted in ''Winds of Fate'' with Darkwind and his father. In his youth, Darkwind was close to his parents. But when the Heartstone was sabotaged, and Darkwind's mother died, his father turned against him. [[spoiler:It turns out that Darkwind's father is Mind Controlled by the Big Bad and is deliberately trying to drive his son away to protect him, in the only way he can. When the spell is broken, Darkwind is amazed at the change in his personality and wonders how he could have failed to notice.]]

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* Odile in Creator/MercedesLackey's works:
** In ''Literature/TheBlackSwan'', a
retelling of ''Swan Lake'' (''Literature/TheBlackSwan'') Lake'', Odile is one of these. When she finally realizes Baron von Rothbart is only using her for her magical potential, she turns on him.
** In the ''Last Herald-Mage'' trilogy of The ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'', ''Literature/LastHeraldMageTrilogy'', Vanyel gets a great helping of this, as spends a great deal of his life is spent in trying to [[ChronicHeroSyndrome be heroic enough]] to get his father to accept him as a person, thanks to his "flaw" of being gay.
** In the ''[[Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar Collegium Chronicles]]'', Lena Marchand is a female example, desperate for her father's approval. It doesn't help that Master Bard Tobias Marchand is an egotistical JerkAss who doesn't even recognize Lena when they accidentally run into each other at the beginning of ''Intrigues''.
** Princess Andromeda spends most of ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms One Good Knight]]'' ''Literature/OneGoodKnight'' as a Well Done Daughter Girl. As it turns out (and as anyone with a passing knowledge of mythology will know), Queen Cassiopeia is ''not'' a nice person.
** Silverblade, Tadrith, and Keenath (from ''The ''[[Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar The Silver Gryphon'') Gryphon]]'') are all examples in different ways. Tadrith is frustrated with the default "he's almost as good at X as Skandranon" "compliments" he gets from everyone, and wants his father to see him as an independent gryphon. Keenath loves Skan, but knows he has nothing in common with his father. Silverblade is simply convinced that Amberdrake will never be able to accept Blade's chosen life-path.
** Subverted in ''Winds ''[[Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar Winds of Fate'' Fate]]'' with Darkwind and his father. In his youth, Darkwind was close to his parents. But when the Heartstone was sabotaged, and Darkwind's mother died, his father turned against him. [[spoiler:It turns out that Darkwind's father is Mind Controlled by the Big Bad and is deliberately trying to drive his son away to protect him, in the only way he can. When the spell is broken, Darkwind is amazed at the change in his personality and wonders how he could have failed to notice.]]
11th Aug '17 12:07:04 AM Nadim
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Codename Kids Next Door}}'': Father suffers from this in ''WesternAnimation/{{Operation Z.E.R.O}}'' as he tries to get Grandfather to rule with him and accept him as his villainous successor. In fact, his fear-based loyalty to his own father is what caused his {{Start of Darkness}} in the first place.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Codename Kids Next Door}}'': Father suffers from this in ''WesternAnimation/{{Operation Z.E.R.Z E R O}}'' as he tries to get Grandfather to rule with him and accept acknowledge him as his villainous successor.a true villain. In fact, his fear-based loyalty to his own father is what caused his {{Start of Darkness}} in the first place.
11th Aug '17 12:03:01 AM Nadim
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Codename Kids Next Door}}'': Father suffers from this in ''WesternAnimation/{{Operation Z.E.R.O}}'' as he tries to get Grandfather to rule with him and accept him as his villainous successor. In fact, his fear-based loyalty to his own father is what caused his {{Start of Darkness}} in the first place.
23rd Jul '17 2:38:13 PM gb00393
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** Tywin Lannister to Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion, who all seek validation from him that he always fails to provide, although [[spoiler:Jaime and Tyrion get over it by the time Tywin presides over a [[KangarooCourt sham trial]] of Tyrion for Joffrey's murder.]]

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** Tywin Lannister to Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion, who all seek validation from him that he always fails to provide, instead being quick to highlight their shortcomings, much to their chagrin, although [[spoiler:Jaime and Tyrion get over it by the time Tywin presides over a [[KangarooCourt sham trial]] of Tyrion for Joffrey's murder.]]]]
--> '''Tywin:''' ''[to Jaime]'' You are blessed with many abilities few men possess...and what have you done with these blessings, eh? You served as a glorified bodyguard to two kings. One a madman, the other a drunk.
--> '''Tywin:''' ''[to Tyrion]'' You are a low-born, ill-made, spiteful little creature filled with envy, lust, and low cunning.
--> '''Tywin:''' ''[to Cersei]'' I don't distrust you because you are a woman. I distrust you because you are not as smart as you think you are.
23rd Jul '17 2:12:46 AM Piterpicher
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* A daughter example with Helen and her dad in ''TheGoodeFamily''. Charlie frequently ridicules his daughter's liberal belief and insults her in any given opportunity. Helen is so desperate for his approval that she even let an ugly animal he adopts stay with her.

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* A daughter example with Helen and her dad in ''TheGoodeFamily''.''WesternAnimation/TheGoodeFamily''. Charlie frequently ridicules his daughter's liberal belief and insults her in any given opportunity. Helen is so desperate for his approval that she even let an ugly animal he adopts stay with her.
17th Jul '17 8:01:03 PM harostar
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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler: Reiner Braun]] originally enlisted out of desire to earn recognition, out of the belief that doing so would allow them to reunite with their DisappearedDad and make him proud. It backfires spectacularly: [[spoiler: seeking out glory ended up making him a traumatized mass murderer, with little hope of ever meeting his biological father and growing more distant from his mother]].

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler: Reiner Braun]] originally enlisted out of desire to earn recognition, out of the belief that doing so would allow them to reunite with their DisappearedDad and make him proud. It backfires spectacularly: [[spoiler: seeking when he finally meets his biological father, the man screams IHaveNoSon and throws him out. By then, it's too late to back out glory ended up making of his mission....leading to him becoming a traumatized mass murderer, with little hope murderer that has lost everything because of ever meeting his biological father and growing more distant from his mother]].mother's lies]].
17th Jul '17 12:06:35 AM creader
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* One of those rare mother-son combos appears in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' and is not remotely played for laughs except in a few instances of BlackComedy, due to being [[MoralityChainFromBeyondTheGrave posthumous]]. Steven's mother, the saintly and flawless Gem revolutionary leader Rose Quartz, [[NotQuiteDead is not strictly speaking "dead"]] and still exists in some ways in Steven himself; Steven understandably feels enormous pressure to live up to her legacy, complicated immensely [[ParentsAsPeople when he begins to discover that his legendary mother]] [[FeetOfClay had more than a few skeletons in her closet]] [[ShootTheDog and did things that]] [[AllLovingHero Steven]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo can't wrap his head around or justify.]] Him failing to follow in her footsteps leads to him fearing that whatever aspect of her that survived judges him for not being like her.

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* One of those rare mother-son combos appears in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' and is not remotely played for laughs except in a few instances of BlackComedy, due to being [[MoralityChainFromBeyondTheGrave [[MoralityChainBeyondTheGrave posthumous]]. Steven's mother, the saintly and flawless Gem revolutionary leader Rose Quartz, [[NotQuiteDead is not strictly speaking "dead"]] and still exists in some ways in Steven himself; Steven understandably feels enormous pressure to live up to her legacy, complicated immensely [[ParentsAsPeople when he begins to discover that his legendary mother]] [[FeetOfClay had more than a few skeletons in her closet]] [[ShootTheDog and did things that]] [[AllLovingHero Steven]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo can't wrap his head around or justify.]] Him failing to follow in her footsteps leads to him fearing that whatever aspect of her that survived judges him for not being like her.
12th Jul '17 2:01:43 PM Hjortron18
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* In ''Film/{{Thor}}'', Loki's motive behind the villainous acts he committed [[spoiler:([[MonsterProtectionRacket bringing Laufey to Asgard to assassinate Odin, but then killing him to make it look as if he had saved Odin]])]] was solely to gain his father's pride and affection. Tragically, Odin was already very proud of his son, although he was dreadful at communicating this fact.

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* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'':
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In ''Film/{{Thor}}'', Loki's motive behind the villainous acts he committed [[spoiler:([[MonsterProtectionRacket bringing Laufey to Asgard to assassinate Odin, but then killing him to make it look as if he had saved Odin]])]] was solely to gain his father's pride and affection. Tragically, Odin was already very proud of his son, although he was dreadful at communicating this fact.



** Explored in ''Film/IronMan2'', as Tony has some shades of this. [[spoiler:[[SoProudOfYou He finally gets his "well done" from Howard in the video he left behind...even as he begins to realize just how brilliant his dad was.]]]]
*** ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' explores this further. Tony relates a memory (to an audience, no less!) of the last time he spoke his to his father before he died, implying that they had an awful fight along the lines of this very topic. It reveals that this event in the earlier film didn't bring Tony much closure or comfort after all. Furthermore, [[spoiler:when Tony learns Bucky is responsible for his parents' death at the end of the film, he justifies his desire to kill Bucky with the line, "He killed my mom." Apparently, Howard hasn't been forgiven yet.]]
** In ''Film/AntMan'', Darren Cross sees himself as Hank's surrogate son, and is motivated by a desire to prove to Hank that he's better than him after years of being pushed aside.



* Explored in ''Film/IronMan2'', as Tony has some shades of this. [[spoiler:[[SoProudOfYou He finally gets his "well done" from Howard in the video he left behind]]...even as he begins to realize just how brilliant his dad was.]]
** ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' explores this further. Tony relates a memory (to an audience, no less!) of the last time he spoke his to his father before he died, implying that they had an awful fight along the lines of this very topic. It reveals that this event in the earlier film didn't bring Tony much closure or comfort after all. Furthermore, [[spoiler: when Tony learns Bucky is responsible for his parents' death at the end of the film, he justifies his desire to kill Bucky with the line, "He killed my mother." Apparently, Howard hasn't been forgiven yet.]]



* In ''Film/AntMan'', Darren Cross sees himself as Hank's surrogate son, and is motivated by a desire to prove to Hank that he's better than him after years of being pushed aside.
8th Jul '17 5:21:31 PM cdrood
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* ''Film/RioGrande'': Jeff Yorke flunks out of West Point and enlists in the army as a private to earn the respect of and to get to know his estranged father. They'd been separated since Jeff was a baby, as Colonel Yorke's duties during TheAmericanCivilWar led to his being ordered to burn down his wife's family plantation. It's somewhat different in that Colonel Yorke clearly cares for his son, but can only show/do so much due to his position as commanding officer and both his and Jeff's desire that the young private succeed on his own merit. After proving himself by undertaking a dangerous mission to rescue kidnapped children, Jeff earned his father's praise in three ways. His father trusts him to pull an arrow out of his shoulder, asks his son to help him to his horse, and finally stating to his now reconciled wife that "Our boy did well."
4th Jul '17 1:41:59 PM HeroGal2347
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** Darkwing's sidekick Launchpad [=McQuack=] in the ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' episode "[[Recap/DuckTalesS1E12TopDuck Top Duck]]". Launchpad thinks that his parents are ashamed of him and wants to show them he's a real [=McQuack=]. (In Launchpad's defense, it's easy to be intimidated when your dad's an {{Expy}} of Creator/JohnWayne!) However, he learns that his parents [[SoProudOfYou actually couldn't be prouder of him.]]

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** Darkwing's sidekick Launchpad [=McQuack=] in the ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987'' episode "[[Recap/DuckTalesS1E12TopDuck Top Duck]]". Launchpad thinks that his parents are ashamed of him and wants to show them he's a real [=McQuack=]. (In Launchpad's defense, it's easy to be intimidated when your dad's an {{Expy}} of Creator/JohnWayne!) However, he learns that his parents [[SoProudOfYou actually couldn't be prouder of him.]]
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