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9th Aug '16 2:10:07 PM Anorgil
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* In the first ''VideoGame/GabrielKnight'' game, Mosely demands that Gabriel prove that the murders were committed by an actual Voodoo cult and that said cult is a threat to the public before he'll help Gabriel fight it.
26th Jun '16 12:34:02 PM nombretomado
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* In ''BaldursGate II'' you're required to find overwhelming evidence of the younger Roenall's wrongdoings, as all complaints about him have to go through...him. So you need something very convincing to convince his superior to break protocol and get rid of him.

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* In ''BaldursGate II'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' you're required to find overwhelming evidence of the younger Roenall's wrongdoings, as all complaints about him have to go through...him. So you need something very convincing to convince his superior to break protocol and get rid of him.
10th Jun '16 4:01:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the first episode of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Dipper worries that his sister Mabel is dating a zombie. Soos tells Dipper that unless he gets solid evidence, no one will believe his claims, leading to a montage of Dipper following "Norman" and Mabel on their dates. Dipper apparently gets his proof when he catches Norman's hand falling off and reattaching, goes to warn Mabel…[[spoiler: And then it turns out that Norman is in fact a bunch of gnomes stacked up.]]

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* In the first episode of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Dipper worries that his sister Mabel is dating a zombie. Soos tells Dipper that unless he gets solid evidence, no one will believe his claims, leading to a montage of Dipper following "Norman" and Mabel on their dates. Dipper apparently gets his proof when he catches Norman's hand falling off and reattaching, goes to warn Mabel…[[spoiler: Mabel�[[spoiler: And then it turns out that Norman is in fact a bunch of gnomes stacked up.]]]]

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11th Mar '16 7:05:44 AM cybertoy0
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* In the first episode of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Dipper worries that his sister Mabel is dating a zombie. Soos tells Dipper that unless he gets solid evidence, no one will believe his claims, leading to a montage of Dipper following "Norman" and Mabel on their dates. Dipper apparently gets his proof when he catches Norman's hand falling off and reattaching, goes to warn Mabel…[[spoiler: And then it turns out that Norman is in fact a bunch of gnomes stacked up.]]
22nd Feb '16 2:03:24 PM DarkHunter
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* A large part of ''Manga/RedRiver'': Kail and his group know that Queen Nakia is behind about 90% of the bad things that happen in the story, but she is very good at covering her tracks, and you don't accuse the second-most-powerful person in the Empire of serious crimes without some serious proof to back it up.
10th Dec '15 2:09:17 PM DarkHunter
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* The main obstacle for L of ''Manga/DeathNote'' is not in deducing [[SerialKiller Kira]]'s identity, but in finding proof beyond a shadow of a doubt to ''support'' his deduction.
** Not unreasonable, given that Kira is using a magic killer notebook to commit his crimes. Without proof, who would believe that?

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* The main obstacle for L of ''Manga/DeathNote'' is not in deducing [[SerialKiller Kira]]'s identity, but in finding proof beyond a shadow of a doubt to ''support'' his deduction.
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deduction. Not unreasonable, given that Kira is using a magic killer notebook to commit his crimes. Without proof, who would believe that?
23rd Aug '15 9:09:32 PM nombretomado
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* About halfway through every episode of ''{{Monk}}'', the titular detective will figure out who did it. Without exception, the person he accuses will have an airtight alibi (once, the guy was ''in space'' at the time of the murder), and Monk will have to find the one thing that doesn't fit.

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* About halfway through every episode of ''{{Monk}}'', ''Series/{{Monk}}'', the titular detective will figure out who did it. Without exception, the person he accuses will have an airtight alibi (once, the guy was ''in space'' at the time of the murder), and Monk will have to find the one thing that doesn't fit.
28th May '15 9:03:18 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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* Zim of ''InvaderZim'' is a DevilInPlainSight whose PaperThinDisguise shouldn't ''need'' any proof to expose, but the earth is largely populated by idiots so [[HeroAntagonist Dib]] is continually after "proof" (generally, a shot of Zim not in disguise) -- he's managed to get it on more than one occasion, but since FailureIsTheOnlyOption he always loses it even if he otherwise thwarts Zim's latest {{Zany|Scheme}}[=-=]but-EvilScheme.
* A common occurence for Candace in ''PhineasAndFerb'', despite the guys not being evil (at least not to us). Their inventions are always in plain sight, but their sister goes through gread ordeals to actually get their mom to see it, resulting in this trope several times by using cameras et.c.

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* Zim of ''InvaderZim'' ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' is a DevilInPlainSight whose PaperThinDisguise shouldn't ''need'' any proof to expose, but the earth is largely populated by idiots so [[HeroAntagonist Dib]] is continually after "proof" (generally, a shot of Zim not in disguise) -- he's managed to get it on more than one occasion, but since FailureIsTheOnlyOption he always loses it even if he otherwise thwarts Zim's latest {{Zany|Scheme}}[=-=]but-EvilScheme.
* A common occurence for Candace in ''PhineasAndFerb'', ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', despite the guys not being evil (at least not to us). Their inventions are always in plain sight, but their sister goes through gread ordeals to actually get their mom to see it, resulting in this trope several times by using cameras et.c.
11th Sep '14 5:32:09 AM CBCook55
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* The Deputy Dawg cartoon "Diamonds In The Rough" has the deputy tasked with finding a diamond smuggler, but the sheriff tells him not to make an arrest without evidence. A haphazard golfer swings by, and Deputy Dawg deduces that the golfer is the smuggler and the diamonds are in the golf balls. After he accidentally swallows some golf balls, Deputy Dawg is at the doctor with the golfer, and the X-ray shows the diamond-laden golf balls in DD's stomach.
12th Aug '14 2:18:07 PM TheGreatSkrond
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Basically, the heroes discover that some bad guy is up to no good. The problem is that for whatever reason. the hero has trouble getting people to believe him. Maybe because [[JustAKid the hero is a kid]], because the bad guys are [[VillainWithGoodPublicity respected authority figures]], or because [[CassandraTruth their scheme sounds outlandish]]. They may have tried to deliver a warning ''without'' getting evidence first and been [[YouHaveToBelieveMe dismissed out of hand]]. Or maybe [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure the authorities]] do believe them, but can't act without evidence. Either way, the heroes need proof of what the bad guys are doing in order to get anyone to believe them, and the ensuing adventure becomes essentially about that. Of course, this plot isn't ''quite'' able to [[ScienceMarchesOn catch up in this day]] and age of hand-held phone recorders/cameras/camcorders in cell phones; because that would get in the way of the ''drama'' of trying to acquire evidence. Often they'll come up with [[ReinventingTheTelephone different ways of recording information]] that's complicated enough for the plot.

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Basically, the heroes discover that some bad guy is up to no good. The problem is that for whatever reason. the hero has trouble getting people to believe him. Maybe because [[JustAKid the hero is a kid]], because the bad guys are [[VillainWithGoodPublicity respected authority figures]], or because [[CassandraTruth their scheme sounds sounds]] [[RefugeInAudacity outlandish]]. They may have tried to deliver a warning ''without'' getting evidence first and been [[YouHaveToBelieveMe dismissed out of hand]]. Or maybe [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure the authorities]] do believe them, but can't act without evidence. Either way, the heroes need proof of what the bad guys are doing in order to get anyone to believe them, and the ensuing adventure becomes essentially about that. Of course, this plot isn't ''quite'' able to [[ScienceMarchesOn catch up in this day]] and age of hand-held phone recorders/cameras/camcorders in cell phones; because that would get in the way of the ''drama'' of trying to acquire evidence. Often they'll come up with [[ReinventingTheTelephone different ways of recording information]] that's complicated enough for the plot.
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