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10th Jul '17 6:00:52 AM tigerstar
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** Explored further in the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E12DiscordantHarmony Discordant Harmony]]", where Discord hosts a tea party for Fluttershy and tries to make her feel at home by completely removing anything bizarre from his home and changing his behaviour to being impeccably nice. This backfires as the complete lack of chaos causes him to [[CessationOfExistence start fading from existence]] - Discord ''cannot'' act too "nice" or normal, or he ceases to be!
6th Jul '17 4:10:46 PM HeroicJay
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* ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'' character Strong Bad argues that he does ''plenty'' to help the environment, and that he deserves credit for his "most significant contributions": not dropping pianos on [[GranolaGirl Marzipan's]] head, and refraining from watering her garden with bleach as he apparently once did (preferring now to dump used cigarette butts on them instead.)
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6th Jul '17 2:00:16 PM MarkLungo
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* Invoked in ''Literature/ThePictureOfDorianGray'', when Dorian realizes that his painting is reflecting all the hedonism he's committed, and thinks that not picking up this country girl he comes across will improve it. The painting promptly develops a smug grin of hypocrisy.

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* Invoked in ''Literature/ThePictureOfDorianGray'', when Dorian realizes that his painting is reflecting all the hedonism he's committed, and thinks that not picking up this country girl he comes across will improve it. The painting promptly develops a smug grin of hypocrisy.{{hypocrisy}}.



* In ''Literature/AndEternity'' by Piers Anthony, two female characters are temporarily transformed into males, and learn that AllMenArePerverts, gaining a newfound appreciation for the amount of restraint the average man shows in not raping them. Yeesh...

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* In ''Literature/AndEternity'' by Piers Anthony, Creator/PiersAnthony, two female characters are temporarily transformed into males, and learn that AllMenArePerverts, gaining a newfound appreciation for the amount of restraint the average man shows in not raping them. Yeesh...
6th Jul '17 1:57:28 PM MarkLungo
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* A downplayed example appears in ''Film/InTheLoop''. Toby, an aide of British cabinet minister Simon, is in Washington D.C for a meeting with a senior American government official. The night before, he goes out clubbing with an old university friend, hooks up with her and oversleeps, resulting in him missing the first half of the meeting. After Simon "reads him some extracts from the Riot Act" in response, Toby protests on the grounds that "it's not like I threw up in there, is it?" Unfortunately for him Simon's not impressed with this line of defence:

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* A downplayed example appears in during ''Film/InTheLoop''. Toby, an aide of British cabinet minister Simon, is in Washington D.C UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC for a meeting with a senior American government official. The night before, he goes out clubbing with an old university friend, hooks up with her and oversleeps, resulting in him missing the first half of the meeting. After Simon "reads him some extracts from the Riot Act" in response, Toby protests on the grounds that "it's not like I threw up in there, is it?" Unfortunately for him Simon's not impressed with this line of defence:
6th Jul '17 1:52:06 PM MarkLungo
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* In ''Fanfic/WishCarefully'', Lucius Malfoy thinks the women of the Cabal, who were kidnapped from their homes to be breeding concubines, should be grateful to him because he gives them whatever they want in reward for them birthing and "took them from poverty". And he lets them see their own children.

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* In the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fic ''Fanfic/WishCarefully'', Lucius Malfoy thinks the women of the Cabal, who were kidnapped from their homes to be breeding concubines, should be grateful to him because he gives them whatever they want in reward for them birthing and "took them from poverty". And he lets them see their own children.
6th Jul '17 1:48:28 PM MarkLungo
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* In ''ComicBook/ThePowerpuffGirls'' story "Everything Must Go" (DC Comics #48), Mojo Jojo conducts a yard sale of his destructive wares. The Amoeba Boys buy one of his items--a magnet that pulls the moon towards the earth on a collision course. When he intervenes and stops the machine, sending the moon back to its rightful place, he thinks he deserves a "thank you" from the girls. They lock him up in jail for starting the whole thing with his yard sale to start with.

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* In ''ComicBook/ThePowerpuffGirls'' story "Everything Must Go" (DC Comics #48), Mojo Jojo conducts a yard sale of his destructive wares. The Amoeba Boys buy one of his items--a magnet that pulls the moon towards the earth on a collision course. When he intervenes and stops the machine, sending the moon back to its rightful place, he thinks he deserves a "thank you" from the girls. They lock him up in jail for starting the whole thing with his yard sale to start begin with.



* One issue of ''ComicBook/TarotWitchOfTheBlackRose'' sees Jon ascending towards Heaven and assuming that he must have earned it because he brushed his teeth a few times.

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* One issue of ''ComicBook/TarotWitchOfTheBlackRose'' sees Jon ascending towards Heaven {{Heaven}} and assuming that he must have earned it because he brushed his teeth a few times.
2nd Jul '17 3:20:53 PM Codefreak5
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': The group is talking about Zuko's sudden ([[{{Deuteragonist}} from their]] [[CharacterDevelopment perspective]]) FaceHeelTurn, and Toph cites setting Appa free instead of leaving him to rot as one good thing he's done.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': The group is talking about Zuko's sudden ([[{{Deuteragonist}} from their]] [[CharacterDevelopment perspective]]) FaceHeelTurn, HeelFaceTurn, and Toph cites setting Appa free instead of leaving him to rot as one good thing he's done.
27th Jun '17 8:54:11 PM chasemaddigan
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-->'''Quill:''' Stop acting like you did me a favor by keeping them from eating me! Normal people don't eat people!

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-->'''Quill:''' Stop acting Twenty years, youíve been throwing that in my face, like you did me a favor by keeping them from itís some great thing, not eating me! Normal people don't eat people!donít even think about eating someone else! Much less that person having to be grateful for it!
15th Jun '17 5:15:33 PM CyberTiger88
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': The group is talking about Zuko's sudden ([[{{Deuteragonist}} from their]] [[CharacterDevelopment perspective]])FaceHeelTurn, and Toph cites setting Appa free instead of leaving him to rot as one good thing he's done.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': The group is talking about Zuko's sudden ([[{{Deuteragonist}} from their]] [[CharacterDevelopment perspective]])FaceHeelTurn, perspective]]) FaceHeelTurn, and Toph cites setting Appa free instead of leaving him to rot as one good thing he's done.



'''Toph:''' I'm just saying that considering his messed-up family and how he was raised, he could have turned out a lot worse.\\
'''Katara:''' You're right, Toph. [[SarcasmMode Let's go find him and give him a medal]]. The "[[BuffySpeak Not-As-Much-of-a-Jerk-As-You-Could-Have-Been]] Award"!

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'''Toph:''' I'm just saying that considering [[RoyallyScrewedUp his messed-up family family]] and how he was raised, he could have turned out a lot worse.\\
'''Katara:''' You're right, Toph. [[SarcasmMode Let's go find him and give him a medal]]. The "[[BuffySpeak "[[DamnedByFaintPraise Not-As-Much-of-a-Jerk-As-You-Could-Have-Been]] Award"!



* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Even after notionally "reforming", Discord has distinct shades of this, claiming to be just as good a friend of the Mane Six as they are to each other in spite of all the trouble he's caused (and ''keeps'' causing) and then complaining when they don't immediately return the sentiment. Being {{the Trickster}}, how much of this is him actually meaning it and how much is him just messing with them ForTheLulz isn't clear.
** Another factor is that it may be that since he is the Spirit of Disharmony, what counts as decent behavior may come as foreign or even antithetical to him (especially since his PhysicalGod status means he's spent most of his life seeing ponykind and others as merely playthings.) One examination where this is PlayedAround is in the Season 4 finale; [[spoiler: The BigBad Tirek convinces Discord to perform a FaceHeelTurn by acting friendly and amicable to him while giving him the chance for Discord to do what he wants. Discord falls for it because Fluttershy is the only one who is really friends with him and tries to understand his needs while the others barely tolerate him and even then, Fluttershy reins him in. He is unsurprisingly backstabbed and this betrayal did teach him some more humility to have a better understanding on friendship.]] He has been getting better though and for the most part, seems more like a somewhat spoiled child than anyone truly amoral.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Even after notionally "reforming", Discord has distinct shades of this, claiming to be just as good a friend of the Mane Six as they are to each other in spite of all the trouble he's caused (and ''keeps'' causing) and then complaining when they don't immediately return the sentiment. Being {{the Trickster}}, how much of this is him actually meaning it and how much is him just messing with them ForTheLulz [[ItAmusedMe for amusement]] isn't clear.
** Another factor is that it may be that since he is the Spirit of Disharmony, what counts as decent behavior may come as foreign or even antithetical to him (especially since his PhysicalGod status means he's spent most of his life seeing ponykind and others as merely playthings.) One examination where this is PlayedAround PlayedWith is in the Season 4 finale; [[spoiler: The BigBad Tirek convinces Discord to perform a FaceHeelTurn by acting friendly and amicable to him while giving him the chance for Discord to do what he wants. Discord falls for it because Fluttershy is the only one who is really friends with him and tries to understand his needs while the others barely tolerate him and even then, Fluttershy reins him in. He is unsurprisingly backstabbed and this betrayal did teach him some more humility to have a better understanding on friendship.]] He has been getting better though and for the most part, seems more like a somewhat spoiled child than anyone truly amoral.
15th Jun '17 8:19:08 AM starofjusticev21
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* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault, and the story seems to equate simply not being bad as being good. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but in the third book we go from the narrator informing us that the Cullens are all "committed to protecting human life" straight to a news story about a killing spree in nearby Seattle, which Edward waves off as SomebodyElsesProblem even though it's obvious that vampires are doing the killing.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault, and the story seems to equate simply not being bad as being good.fault. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but the Cullens never seem the least bit uncomfortable about the various crimes they commit in pursuit of their goals, or the atrocious loss of life caused by other vampires despite them being, in the narrator's own words [[note]] From the beginning of the third book we go from the narrator informing us that the Cullens are all [[/note]], "committed to protecting human life" straight to a news story about a killing spree in nearby Seattle, which Edward waves off as SomebodyElsesProblem even though it's obvious that vampires are doing the killing.life."
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