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15th Feb '18 4:25:34 AM StFan
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* There's a ''Webcomic/SurvivingTheWorld'' [[http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson1538.html strip]] with an...[[CrossingTheLineTwice interesting]] take on this:

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* There's a ''Webcomic/SurvivingTheWorld'' [[http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson1538.html strip]] with an... [[CrossingTheLineTwice interesting]] take on this:



* In the ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' prequel ''On The Origin of [=PCs=]'', we have a [[ComedicSociopathy Belkar]] example. when he gets thrown in prison for going on a murder spree during a tavern brawl, he argues that not killing ''all'' the barmaids was a considerable act of restraint on his part that should be praised. He then suggests that if humans don't want him to murder people, they should put up a sign saying "Thank you for not killing more than five of us."

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* In the ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' prequel ''On The Origin of [=PCs=]'', ''Recap/OnTheOriginOfPCs'', we have a [[ComedicSociopathy Belkar]] example. when he gets thrown in prison for going on a murder spree during a tavern brawl, he argues that not killing ''all'' the barmaids was a considerable act of restraint on his part that should be praised. He then suggests that if humans don't want him to murder people, they should put up a sign saying "Thank you for not killing more than five of us."



* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' actually inverts this. [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Agatha]], heir to the [[MadScientist Heterodyne]] family, does NOT expect adoration simply for not slaughtering people on whim...but her followers are very impressed by the fact that she goes two minutes without killing someone. The reason is because the Heterodyne family was the bloodline of mad scientists even other mad scientist lines feared. They were ''literally'' built from a legacy of conquest and woe. The only people besides Agatha who averted this were her father and uncle, Bill and Barry Heterodyne, who were adventuring heroes looking to make the world a better place.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' actually inverts this. [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Agatha]], heir to the [[MadScientist Heterodyne]] family, does NOT expect adoration simply for not slaughtering people on whim... but her followers are very impressed by the fact that she goes two minutes without killing someone. The reason is because the Heterodyne family was the bloodline of mad scientists even other mad scientist lines feared. They were ''literally'' built from a legacy of conquest and woe. The only people besides Agatha who averted this were her father and uncle, Bill and Barry Heterodyne, who were adventuring heroes looking to make the world a better place.



* Love advice blogger Harris O'Malley, aka Dr. Nerdlove, has [[http://www.doctornerdlove.com/pass-grimes-test/ The Grimes Test]], speaking about a fictional [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever kaiju]] who has never creeped on, harassed or stalked a woman, ending with an ArmorPiercingQuestion of "So what do you have going for you that Grimes doesn't?"
** The titular doctor has several articles on the subject, generally chastising [[DoggedNiceGuy so-called "Nice Guys"]] who act friendly towards a woman in order to sleep with them, calling the tactic inherently dishonest and underhanded. O'Malley argues that being "nice" isn't enough to win someone's affection; one must have charisma, charm, and an interesting lifestyle to truly be desirable.

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* Love advice blogger Harris O'Malley, aka a.k.a. Dr. Nerdlove, has [[http://www.doctornerdlove.com/pass-grimes-test/ The Grimes Test]], speaking about a fictional [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever kaiju]] who has never creeped on, harassed or stalked a woman, ending with an ArmorPiercingQuestion of "So what do you have going for you that Grimes doesn't?"
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doesn't?" The titular doctor has several articles on the subject, generally chastising [[DoggedNiceGuy so-called "Nice Guys"]] who act friendly towards a woman in order to sleep with them, calling the tactic inherently dishonest and underhanded. O'Malley argues that being "nice" isn't enough to win someone's affection; one must have charisma, charm, and an interesting lifestyle to truly be desirable.



-->'''Caddy''': Guys, newsflash, just because your game has no viruses in it, doesn't mean it deserves merit. That's like getting a medal every time you wash your hands after taking a shit.

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-->'''Caddy''': -->'''Caddy:''' Guys, newsflash, just because your game has no viruses in it, doesn't mean it deserves merit. That's like getting a medal every time you wash your hands after taking a shit.



'''Katara:''' You're right, Toph. [[SarcasmMode Let's go find him and give him a medal]]. The "[[DamnedByFaintPraise Not-As-Much-of-a-Jerk-As-You-Could-Have-Been]] Award"!

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'''Katara:''' You're right, Toph. [[SarcasmMode Let's go find him and give him a medal]]. The "[[DamnedByFaintPraise Not-As-Much-of-a-Jerk-As-You-Could-Have-Been]] Not-as-Much-of-a-Jerk-as-You-Could-Have-Been]] Award"!
3rd Feb '18 10:14:23 PM KingLyger
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* Love advice blogger Harris O'Malley, aka Dr. Nerdlove, has [[http://www.doctornerdlove.com/pass-grimes-test/ The Grimes Test]], speaking about a fictional [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever kaiju]] who has never creeped on, harassed or stalked a woman, ending with an ArmorPiercingQuestion of "So what do you have going for you that Grimes doesn't?"
** The titular doctor has several articles on the subject, generally chastising [[DoggedNiceGuy so-called "Nice Guys"]] who act friendly towards a woman in order to sleep with them, calling the tactic inherently dishonest and underhanded. O'Malley argues that being "nice" isn't enough to win someone's affection; one must have charisma, charm, and an interesting lifestyle to truly be desirable.
29th Jan '18 9:43:31 AM HasturHasturHastur
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TruthInTelevision, this is a common excuse used by many real life domestic abusers. "Yes, I horribly mistreated my son, but I also gave him a roof over his head and fed him. He should be grateful!"

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TruthInTelevision, this is a common excuse used by many real life domestic abusers. "Yes, I horribly mistreated my son, but I also gave him a roof over his head and fed him. He should be grateful!"
grateful!" This is also the mentality behind "virtue signaling", or loudly and publicly moral grandstanding in a way that makes it clear that the speaker views those attitudes as a ticket to personal gain.
17th Jan '18 5:32:45 AM ChronoLegion
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* In ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' episode "[[Recap/TheFlash2014S4E9DontRun Don't Run]]", Caitlin's former boss Amunet expects Caitlin to be grateful that Amunet hasn't tried to kill her... today.
16th Jan '18 11:16:44 PM Astaroth
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* In ''Webvideo/{{Caddicarus}}''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txKYsveKOLs&t=1006s video]] on ''Videogame/ZooRace'', Caddy notes that most of the awards on the awards page of the developers website are for producing virus-free software:
-->'''Caddy''': Guys, newsflash, just because your game has no viruses in it, doesn't mean it deserves merit. That's like getting a medal every time you wash your hands after taking a shit.
10th Jan '18 6:19:38 AM starofjusticev21
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* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk. At one point, Alice and Jasper do nothing to stop another vampire from killing and drinking from a man right in front of them, and in the movie ''smile''. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but the Cullens never seem the least bit uncomfortable about the various crimes they commit in pursuit of their goals, or the atrocious loss of life caused by other vampires despite them being, in the narrator's own words (from the beginning of the third book), "committed to protecting human life."

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* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk. At one point, Alice and Jasper do nothing to stop another vampire from killing and drinking from a man right in front of them, and in the movie ''smile''. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but the Cullens never seem the least bit uncomfortable about the various crimes they commit in pursuit of their goals, or the atrocious loss of life caused by other vampires (including quite a few the Cullens consider their best friends) despite them being, in the narrator's own words (from the beginning of the third book), "committed to protecting human life."
15th Dec '17 1:52:05 PM StFan
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** During his [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutal beatdown]] of Vegeta, Frieza lectures him on being an UngratefulBastard and betraying him despite showing him "favoritism." Frieza is an utterly {{sadist}}ic, AxCrazy {{Jerkass}} who kills whoever and whenever he wants ForTheEvulz, and his idea of "favoritism" was [[SparingTheAces making Vegeta one of the three Saiyans he]] ''[[SparingTheAces didn't]]'' [[SparingTheAces kill]].

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** During his [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutal beatdown]] of Vegeta, Frieza lectures him on being an UngratefulBastard and betraying him despite showing him "favoritism." "favoritism". Frieza is an utterly {{sadist}}ic, AxCrazy {{Jerkass}} who kills whoever and whenever he wants ForTheEvulz, and his idea of "favoritism" was [[SparingTheAces making Vegeta one of the three Saiyans he]] ''[[SparingTheAces didn't]]'' [[SparingTheAces kill]].



* ''Manga/YuGiOh'': During the Battle City tournament, Jonouchi is in danger from Marik, the arc villain. Kaiba finds him using technology and expects thanks from Yugi for his help. There's only one issue with this - Kaiba is the overseer of the tournament, and therefore responsible for the safety of every contestant, so he should have wanted to find Jonouchi anyway regardless of his dislike for him.

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* ''Manga/YuGiOh'': During the Battle City tournament, Jonouchi is in danger from Marik, the arc villain. Kaiba finds him using technology and expects thanks from Yugi for his help. There's only one issue with this - -- Kaiba is the overseer of the tournament, and therefore responsible for the safety of every contestant, so he should have wanted to find Jonouchi anyway regardless of his dislike for him.



-->'''Chris:''' You know the worst thing about niggas? Niggas always want credit for some shit they ''supposed'' to do. A nigga will brag about some shit a normal man just ''does''. A nigga will say some shit like, "I take care of my kids." You're '''supposed''' to, you dumb motherfucker! What kind of ignorant shit is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" Whatchu want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you [[BuffySpeak low-expectations-having]] motherfucker!"

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-->'''Chris:''' You know the worst thing about niggas? Niggas always want credit for some shit they ''supposed'' to do. A nigga will brag about some shit a normal man just ''does''. A nigga will say some shit like, "I take care of my kids." You're '''supposed''' to, you dumb motherfucker! What kind of ignorant shit is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" Whatchu want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you [[BuffySpeak low-expectations-having]] motherfucker!"motherfucker!



** Similarly, "I only threatened to kill everyone ''Once''. You should be thanking me."

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** * Similarly, "I only threatened to kill everyone ''Once''. You should be thanking me."



-->'''George:''' And Bobby's parents can't seem to understand ''why'' he can't hold a job. In school, he was always on the honor roll. Of course, they don't realize that, to ''be'' on the honor roll, you have to maintain a body temperature somewhere roughly in the nineties."

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-->'''George:''' And Bobby's parents can't seem to understand ''why'' he can't hold a job. In school, he was always on the honor roll. Of course, they don't realize that, to ''be'' on the honor roll, you have to maintain a body temperature somewhere roughly in the nineties."



* The Kingpin in ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' explains to Peter that this is why normal people [[TallPoppySyndrome resent superheroes like Peter]] in the Marvel universe (or at least Ultimate, though the main one could qualify to a lesser extent.). Normal people, according to the Kingpin, are sheep who just want to do the bare minimum of what is expected of them and want someone like the Kingpin to give them a big cookie for it at the end of the day. Seeing heroes like Peter going above and beyond makes them realize that they don't really deserve that cookie.
* There is Zoe Zimmer from ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'', who is just ''concerned'' about the well-being and financial status of her classmates. She is even willing to shop where one of them works, and can't fathom why he wouldn't make coffee for her for this great act of charity. The others are divided whether or not her "concern trolling" is an [[AlphaBitch act]] or [[InnocentBigot cluelessness]]. [[spoiler:Exposure to TruthSerum reveals that she is genuinely mean.]]

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* The Kingpin in ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' explains to Peter that this is why normal people [[TallPoppySyndrome resent superheroes like Peter]] in the Marvel universe (or at least Ultimate, though the main one could qualify to a lesser extent.).extent). Normal people, according to the Kingpin, are sheep who just want to do the bare minimum of what is expected of them and want someone like the Kingpin to give them a big cookie for it at the end of the day. Seeing heroes like Peter going above and beyond makes them realize that they don't really deserve that cookie.
* There is Zoe Zimmer from ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'', ''ComicBook/MsMarvel2014'', who is just ''concerned'' about the well-being and financial status of her classmates. She is even willing to shop where one of them works, and can't fathom why he wouldn't make coffee for her for this great act of charity. The others are divided whether or not her "concern trolling" is an [[AlphaBitch act]] or [[InnocentBigot cluelessness]]. [[spoiler:Exposure to TruthSerum reveals that she is genuinely mean.]]



* In the Franchise/{{Transformers}} comic ''ComicBook/MoreThanMeetsTheEye'' this is actually inverted. Rodimus invents a morale booster called the Rodimus Star, and gives it out for the most trivial things. Ultra Magnus, who is always a good person, gets one for 'best handwriting' while Megatron gets one for 'not reverting to his evil ways'. Whirl gets one for some unknown reason, and this was before his HiddenDepths began to be plumbed, and Rodimus even offers one to Swerve if he can keep from speaking for one day (which Swerve fails).

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* In the Franchise/{{Transformers}} comic ''ComicBook/MoreThanMeetsTheEye'' this is actually inverted. Rodimus invents a morale booster called the Rodimus Star, and gives it out for the most trivial things. Ultra Magnus, who is always a good person, gets one for 'best handwriting' "best handwriting" while Megatron gets one for 'not "not reverting to his evil ways'.ways". Whirl gets one for some unknown reason, and this was before his HiddenDepths began to be plumbed, and Rodimus even offers one to Swerve if he can keep from speaking for one day (which Swerve fails).



* [[JerkAss Rat]] from ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' thinks he's going to Heaven because he once opened the door for a fat guy--though he did let the door close on him for walking too slow.

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* [[JerkAss Rat]] from ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' thinks he's going to Heaven because he once opened the door for a fat guy--though guy -- though he did let the door close on him for walking too slow.



* In the ''Manga/DeathNote'' fic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/827529/chapters/1571549 Lab Specimen]]'' L thinks Light should be grateful to him despite L's invasive and dehumanizing treatment of him and [[spoiler: sexually assaulting him]] because at least L wasn't ''torturing'' him.

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* In the ''Manga/DeathNote'' fic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/827529/chapters/1571549 Lab Specimen]]'' Specimen]]'', L thinks Light should be grateful to him despite L's invasive and dehumanizing treatment of him and [[spoiler: sexually [[spoiler:sexually assaulting him]] because at least L wasn't ''torturing'' him.



-->''Shouldn't he be grateful that he wasn't planning on giving him a painful, lingering death?''

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-->''Shouldn't -->Shouldn't he be grateful that he wasn't planning on giving him a painful, lingering death?'' death?



* Taken UpToEleven by the original Falla in ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act IV''. In chapter 11, after after bisecting Luna, Falla tells Kurumu that she should be grateful to her for doing so since she's ensured that Luna won't ever hound Rason again, and outright accuses her of being an UngratefulBitch when she doesn't do so. Even before that, in chapter 6, Falla points out to everyone in Ms. Nekonome's class that had she not intervened in the timeline, everyone would have died; aside from the fact that no one but Tsukune's group has any idea what she's talking about, the ''only'' reason Falla helped to avert Luna's SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum at the end of Act III was [[ItsAllAboutMe to serve]] [[PragmaticVillainy her own interests]], as Luna was the only one who could free her from her [[SealedEvilInACan prison]].

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* Taken UpToEleven by the original Falla in ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness ''Fanfic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act IV''. In chapter 11, after after bisecting Luna, Falla tells Kurumu that she should be grateful to her for doing so since she's ensured that Luna won't ever hound Rason again, and outright accuses her of being an UngratefulBitch when she doesn't do so. Even before that, in chapter 6, Falla points out to everyone in Ms. Nekonome's class that had she not intervened in the timeline, everyone would have died; aside from the fact that no one but Tsukune's group has any idea what she's talking about, the ''only'' reason Falla helped to avert Luna's SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum at the end of Act III was [[ItsAllAboutMe to serve]] [[PragmaticVillainy her own interests]], as Luna was the only one who could free her from her [[SealedEvilInACan prison]].



--> "Hmm." Winter glanced away. "This is not relevant. I explained the actions of the pink one. I did not need to."
--> "No. And I do not need to award you for common decency." Ditzy clicked her hands together. "You have much to learn."

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--> "Hmm.-->"Hmm." Winter glanced away. "This is not relevant. I explained the actions of the pink one. I did not need to."
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"No. And I do not need to award you for common decency." Ditzy clicked her hands together. "You have much to learn."



-->'''Quill:''' Twenty years, youíve been throwing that in my face, like itís some great thing, not eating me! Normal people donít even think about eating someone else! Much less that person having to be grateful for it!

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-->'''Quill:''' Twenty years, youíve you've been throwing that in my face, like itís it's some great thing, not eating me! Normal people donít don't even think about eating someone else! Much less that person having to be grateful for it!



** At the beginning of ''The Deathly Hallows'', Dudley shows outward concern for Harry for the first time in seven years, two years after Harry saved his soul from a Dementor attack, because of Harry having to stop Voldemort. Dudley thanks Harry for saving him and the cousins manage to patch things up. While he and Harry are perfectly content with getting on with things, Petunia goes nuts, raving about what a grateful boy her Dudley is.
*** Goes a bit deeper. Turns out that when Dudley was exposed to the dementor, he saw his ''entire life'' from an objective standpoint and saw the type of really cruddy person he really was. He definitely is nicer to Harry starting from Book 6, but presumably, trying to make up for the past 16 years of mistreatment is difficult and he doesn't know how. Book 7 finally allows circumstances for Dudley to voice it, which is why Harry is able to grasp the depth of the apology.
* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk[[note]]At one point, Alice and Jasper do nothing to stop another vampire from killing and drinking from a man right in front of them, and in the movie ''smile''.[[/note]]. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but the Cullens never seem the least bit uncomfortable about the various crimes they commit in pursuit of their goals, or the atrocious loss of life caused by other vampires despite them being, in the narrator's own words [[note]] From the beginning of the third book [[/note]], "committed to protecting human life."

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** At the beginning of ''The Deathly Hallows'', Dudley shows outward concern for Harry for the first time in seven years, two years after Harry saved his soul from a Dementor attack, because of Harry having to stop Voldemort. Dudley thanks Harry for saving him and the cousins manage to patch things up. While he and Harry are perfectly content with getting on with things, Petunia goes nuts, raving about what a grateful boy her Dudley is.
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is. Goes a bit deeper. Turns deeper: turns out that when Dudley was exposed to the dementor, he saw his ''entire life'' from an objective standpoint and saw the type of really cruddy person he really was. He definitely is nicer to Harry starting from Book 6, but presumably, trying to make up for the past 16 years of mistreatment is difficult and he doesn't know how. Book 7 finally allows circumstances for Dudley to voice it, which is why Harry is able to grasp the depth of the apology.
* In the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series, the main characters are a family of vampires, the Cullens, who don't kill humans for blood (instead surviving off wild animals). The Cullens and narrator Bella think of themselves as saintly people with a caring regard for humans, but in spite of this none of them seem to care what happens to humans as long as the bad things aren't ''their'' fault. In addition to the abusive relationship stuff the books are notorious for, the Cullens are friends with plenty of other vampires who still see humans as livestock, most are smug about their superiority over humankind, and when they know violent vampires are on a killing spree nearby they ignore it until it's confirmed they and/or someone they have a personal interest in is at risk[[note]]At risk. At one point, Alice and Jasper do nothing to stop another vampire from killing and drinking from a man right in front of them, and in the movie ''smile''.[[/note]]. ''smile''. Granted, TheMasquerade exists and attempting to violate it results in the Volturi (the ruling family of vampirekind) brutally killing you to uphold it, but the Cullens never seem the least bit uncomfortable about the various crimes they commit in pursuit of their goals, or the atrocious loss of life caused by other vampires despite them being, in the narrator's own words [[note]] From (from the beginning of the third book [[/note]], book), "committed to protecting human life."



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** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' has the head of the qunari in Kirkwall, the arishok, declare that the city should be 'grateful' he does not 'fix their chaotic mess' of a city by killing lots of people and converting them to the Qun. The Qun suffers from BlueAndOrangeMorality, but most people don't expect a prize for refraining from mass slaughter. [[spoiler: He eventually gets fed up with the ActivistFundamentalistAntics of Sister Patrice and goes through with it.]]
*** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' reveals that [[spoiler: the Qunari disavowed the Arishok's actions, saying that it was unsanctioned, and thus avoid open war]].

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** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' has the head of the qunari in Kirkwall, the arishok, declare that the city should be 'grateful' he does not 'fix their chaotic mess' of a city by killing lots of people and converting them to the Qun. The Qun suffers from BlueAndOrangeMorality, but most people don't expect a prize for refraining from mass slaughter. [[spoiler: He eventually gets fed up with the ActivistFundamentalistAntics of Sister Patrice and goes through with it.]]
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]] ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' reveals that [[spoiler: the Qunari disavowed the Arishok's actions, saying that it was unsanctioned, and thus avoid open war]].






* In WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's review of ''Film/TheShining'', he wants a medal for not making pedophile jokes. This was an episode heavily based on how fucked up he is though, so at least it was intentionally douchey.

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* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'':
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In WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's the review of ''Film/TheShining'', he the Critic wants a medal for not making pedophile jokes. This was is an episode heavily based on how fucked up he is is, though, so at least it was is intentionally douchey.



-->'''Kyle:''' That's not being nice. That's just putting on a nice sweater!\\

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-->'''Kyle:''' --->'''Kyle:''' That's not being nice. That's just putting on a nice sweater!\\



* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Even after notionally "reforming", Discord has distinct shades of this, claiming to be just as good a friend of the Mane Six as they are to each other in spite of all the trouble he's caused (and ''keeps'' causing) and then complaining when they don't immediately return the sentiment. Being {{the Trickster}}, how much of this is him actually meaning it and how much is him just messing with them [[ItAmusedMe for amusement]] isn't clear.
** Another factor is that it may be that since he is the Spirit of Disharmony, what counts as decent behavior may come as foreign or even antithetical to him (especially since his PhysicalGod status means he's spent most of his life seeing ponykind and others as merely playthings.) One examination where this is PlayedWith is in the Season 4 finale; [[spoiler: The BigBad Tirek convinces Discord to perform a FaceHeelTurn by acting friendly and amicable to him while giving him the chance for Discord to do what he wants. Discord falls for it because Fluttershy is the only one who is really friends with him and tries to understand his needs while the others barely tolerate him and even then, Fluttershy reins him in. He is unsurprisingly backstabbed and this betrayal did teach him some more humility to have a better understanding on friendship.]] He has been getting better though and for the most part, seems more like a somewhat spoiled child than anyone truly amoral.
** Explored further in the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E12DiscordantHarmony Discordant Harmony]]", where Discord hosts a tea party for Fluttershy and tries to make her feel at home by completely removing anything bizarre from his home and changing his behaviour to being impeccably nice. This started because Discord became irritated at how the ponies he was doing business with questioned his friendhsip with Fluttershy (though it appeared it did get to him.) This backfires as the complete lack of chaos causes him to start fading from existence. In Discord's case, while he can be friendly and kind, he still needs to be true to his inherent Discordy self... ''or else.''

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Even after notionally "reforming", Discord has distinct shades of this, claiming to be just as good a friend of the Mane Six as they are to each other in spite of all the trouble he's caused (and ''keeps'' causing) and then complaining when they don't immediately return the sentiment. Being {{the Trickster}}, how much of this is him actually meaning it and how much is him just messing with them [[ItAmusedMe for amusement]] isn't clear.
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clear.\\\
Another factor is that it may be that since he is the Spirit of Disharmony, what counts as decent behavior may come as foreign or even antithetical to him (especially since his PhysicalGod status means he's spent most of his life seeing ponykind and others as merely playthings.) playthings). One examination where this is PlayedWith is in the Season 4 finale; [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the BigBad Tirek convinces Discord to perform a FaceHeelTurn by acting friendly and amicable to him while giving him the chance for Discord to do what he wants. Discord falls for it because Fluttershy is the only one who is really friends with him and tries to understand his needs while the others barely tolerate him and even then, Fluttershy reins him in. He is unsurprisingly backstabbed and this betrayal did teach him some more humility to have a better understanding on friendship.]] He has been getting better though and for the most part, seems more like a somewhat spoiled child than anyone truly amoral. \n** \\\
Explored further in the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E12DiscordantHarmony Discordant Harmony]]", where Discord hosts a tea party for Fluttershy and tries to make her feel at home by completely removing anything bizarre from his home and changing his behaviour behavior to being impeccably nice. This started because Discord became irritated at how the ponies he was doing business with questioned his friendhsip with Fluttershy (though it appeared it did get to him.) him). This backfires as the complete lack of chaos causes him to start fading from existence. In Discord's case, while he can be friendly and kind, he still needs to be true to his inherent Discordy chaotic self... ''or else.''
14th Dec '17 12:34:37 PM ironballs16
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*** '''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''' reveals that [[spoiler: the Qunari disavowed the Arishok's actions, saying that it was unsanctioned, and thus avoid open war]].

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*** '''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''' ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' reveals that [[spoiler: the Qunari disavowed the Arishok's actions, saying that it was unsanctioned, and thus avoid open war]].
14th Dec '17 12:33:59 PM ironballs16
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** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' has the head of the qunari in Kirkwall, the arishok, declare that the city should be 'grateful' he does not 'fix their chaotic mess' of a city by killing lots of people and converting them to the Qun. The Qun suffers from BlueAndOrangeMorality, but most people don't expect a prize for refraining from mass slaughter. [[spoiler: He eventually gets bored and does it anyway.]]

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** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' has the head of the qunari in Kirkwall, the arishok, declare that the city should be 'grateful' he does not 'fix their chaotic mess' of a city by killing lots of people and converting them to the Qun. The Qun suffers from BlueAndOrangeMorality, but most people don't expect a prize for refraining from mass slaughter. [[spoiler: He eventually gets bored fed up with the ActivistFundamentalistAntics of Sister Patrice and does goes through with it.]]
*** '''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''' reveals that [[spoiler: the Qunari disavowed the Arishok's actions, saying that
it anyway.]]was unsanctioned, and thus avoid open war]].
1st Dec '17 7:10:16 PM Kid
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** He also points out in his review for ''Film/IllBeHomeForChristmas'' That Jake Wilkinson basically has to be bribed to visit his family for Christmas, and only does two good things, ''and one standard thing he should have been doing.''

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** He also points out in his review for ''Film/IllBeHomeForChristmas'' That that Jake Wilkinson basically has to be bribed to visit his family for Christmas, and only does two good things, ''and one standard thing he should have been doing.''
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