History Main / VoodooShark

16th Feb '17 9:50:02 AM Kelothan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Another Warcraft example is the existence of Gorana Halforcen from the original RTS games. In those games, she is described as half human, which worked at the time. About a decade worth of retcons later, suddenly her being half human and as old as she was made no sense. The solution? Make her half draenei instead who had her body manipulated to appear half human. This was met with varying degrees of acceptance to annoyance, particularly because it was part of a story dealing with [[TheScrappy a very controversial character]].
26th Jan '17 11:44:24 AM MegaMarioMan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In Anime/YuGiOh, the manga villain "The Ventriloquist of the Dead" is replaced with "The Imatator of Death", who disguises himself as Seto Kaiba's ghost. In the uncut version, it's left ambiguous whether or not he's a ShapeShifter, or just a MasterOfDisguise. In the English dub by Creator/FourKidsEntertainment, this is explained by him actually ''being'' Kaiba, or rather, his evil side [[ArcVillain Pegasus]] freed from the Shadow Realm (while given the name of Ghost Kaiba). This raises several questions: Why was he sent to the Shadow Realm if he isn't even alive? How did he come to life? If Pegasus could just free him, Why couldn't he free Cecilia, since in this version she is also trapped in Shadow Realm? Why does his real form look ''nothing'' like Kaiba? WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbrigedSeries {{Parodied|Trope}} this by claiming the "Gay Clown" didn't really know who he was.

to:

* In Anime/YuGiOh, the manga villain "The Ventriloquist of the Dead" is replaced with "The Imatator of Death", who disguises himself as Seto Kaiba's ghost. In the uncut version, it's left ambiguous whether or not he's a ShapeShifter, or just a MasterOfDisguise. In the English dub by Creator/FourKidsEntertainment, this is explained by him actually ''being'' Kaiba, or rather, his evil side [[ArcVillain Pegasus]] freed from the Shadow Realm (while given the name of Ghost Kaiba). This raises several questions: Why was he sent to the Shadow Realm if he isn't even alive? How did he come to life? If Pegasus could just free him, Why couldn't he free Cecilia, since in this version she is also trapped in Shadow Realm? Why does his real form look ''nothing'' like Kaiba? WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbrigedSeries WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries {{Parodied|Trope}} this by claiming the "Gay Clown" didn't really know who he was.



* Many FiM fanfictions, dissatisfied with the apparently geocentric model of Equestria, try to explain Celestia and Luna's powers with "more realistic" scenarios, such as them actually rotating the planet with their powers rather than moving the sun and moon. Invariably this causes epic levels of FridgeLogic to kick in as the reader realizes that it would involve ridiculous levels of God Mode power, cause epic worldwide catastrophes every time the sun was raised, or violates show canon all up and down the line-- and usually all three.

to:

* Many FiM [=FiM=] fanfictions, dissatisfied with the apparently geocentric model of Equestria, try to explain Celestia and Luna's powers with "more realistic" scenarios, such as them actually rotating the planet with their powers rather than moving the sun and moon. Invariably this causes epic levels of FridgeLogic to kick in as the reader realizes that it would involve ridiculous levels of God Mode power, cause epic worldwide catastrophes every time the sun was raised, or violates show canon all up and down the line-- and usually all three.
25th Jan '17 1:28:59 PM MegaMarioMan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Not necessarily related to JumpingTheShark or HollywoodVoodoo. Compare ScullySyndrome, where a character in-universe will concoct ridiculous explanations for things, and UnscientificScience, which similarly attempts to spackle over questionable science and technology the same way the VoodooShark does for plot points.

to:

Not necessarily related to JumpingTheShark or HollywoodVoodoo. Compare ScullySyndrome, where a character in-universe will concoct ridiculous explanations for things, and UnscientificScience, which similarly attempts to spackle over questionable science and technology the same way the VoodooShark Voodoo Shark does for plot points.



** Another VoodooShark is that the Minions movie mentions the minions always follow the most evil creature they can. As Gru suffers heavy InUniverse VillainDecay starting from ''the first movie'' and only getting exacerbated in the second (at least in the first movie he was trying to commit an act of supervillainy; in the second he's actively working ''against'' villains), it makes one wonder why the minions bother to keep following him instead of moving on to any of the other villains in the series.

to:

** Another VoodooShark Voodoo Shark is that the Minions movie mentions the minions always follow the most evil creature they can. As Gru suffers heavy InUniverse VillainDecay starting from ''the first movie'' and only getting exacerbated in the second (at least in the first movie he was trying to commit an act of supervillainy; in the second he's actively working ''against'' villains), it makes one wonder why the minions bother to keep following him instead of moving on to any of the other villains in the series.
19th Jan '17 9:34:57 AM Kelothan
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In Anime/YuGiOh, the manga villain "The Ventriloquist of the Dead" is replaced with "The Imatator of Death", who disguises himself as Seto Kaiba's ghost. In the uncut version, it's left ambiguous whether or not he's a ShapeShifter, or just a MasterOfDisguise. In the English dub by Creator/FourKidsEntertainment, this is explained by him actually ''being'' Kaiba, or rather, his evil side [[ArcVillain Pegasus]] freed from the Shadow Realm (while given the name of Ghost Kaiba). This raises several questions: Why was he sent to the Shadow Realm if he isn't even alive? How did he come to life? If Pegasus could just free him, Why couldn't he free Cecilia, since in this version she is also trapped in Shadow Realm? Why does his real form look ''nothing'' like Kaiba? WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbrigedSeries {{Parodied|Trope}} this by claiming the "Gay Clown" didn't really know who he was.
16th Jan '17 10:52:11 AM Butter
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Another Warcraft example is the existence of Gorana Halforcen from the original RTS games. In those games, she is described as half human, which worked at the time. About a decade worth of retcons later, suddenly her being half human and as old as she was made no sense. The solution? Make her half draenei instead who had her body manipulated to appear half human. This was met with varying degrees of acceptance to annoyance, particularly because it was part of a story dealing with [TheScrappy a very controversial character]].

to:

** Another Warcraft example is the existence of Gorana Halforcen from the original RTS games. In those games, she is described as half human, which worked at the time. About a decade worth of retcons later, suddenly her being half human and as old as she was made no sense. The solution? Make her half draenei instead who had her body manipulated to appear half human. This was met with varying degrees of acceptance to annoyance, particularly because it was part of a story dealing with [TheScrappy [[TheScrappy a very controversial character]].
8th Jan '17 12:13:52 PM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Captain America was famously frozen near the end of WorldWar2 after falling into the Atlantic Ocean, and was found decades later after [[Comicbook/SubMariner Namor]] accidentally freed his body from a block of ice. This falls under ArtisticLicenseBiology, with the {{Handwave}}d explanation that the SuperSerum in Cap's veins prevented him from freezing to death or drowning. John Ney Reiber and Chuck Austen apparently thought this was too unbelievable, and instead came up with a story revealing that Cap never fell into the ocean, and that he'd actually been put into cryogenic stasis by the government after being given FakeMemories from a virtual reality helmet. Rather than being found when the Comicbook/SubMariner came across an Inuit tribe that was worshiping his body, he was instead found when Namor stumbled upon the abandoned lab where his stasis tube was being held. So apparently, the science behind the Super Serum allowing Cap to survive freezing temperatures was too far fetched, but the government having access to the advanced virtual technology required to recreate realistic fake memories in ''1945'' somehow wasn't? It also raises the question of why the government left Cap to rot in a derelict lab somewhere to begin with, when they clearly thought he was a valuable enough asset to warrant being kept alive and frozen in the first place.

to:

** Captain America was famously frozen near the end of WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 after falling into the Atlantic Ocean, and was found decades later after [[Comicbook/SubMariner Namor]] accidentally freed his body from a block of ice. This falls under ArtisticLicenseBiology, with the {{Handwave}}d explanation that the SuperSerum in Cap's veins prevented him from freezing to death or drowning. John Ney Reiber and Chuck Austen apparently thought this was too unbelievable, and instead came up with a story revealing that Cap never fell into the ocean, and that he'd actually been put into cryogenic stasis by the government after being given FakeMemories from a virtual reality helmet. Rather than being found when the Comicbook/SubMariner came across an Inuit tribe that was worshiping his body, he was instead found when Namor stumbled upon the abandoned lab where his stasis tube was being held. So apparently, the science behind the Super Serum allowing Cap to survive freezing temperatures was too far fetched, but the government having access to the advanced virtual technology required to recreate realistic fake memories in ''1945'' somehow wasn't? It also raises the question of why the government left Cap to rot in a derelict lab somewhere to begin with, when they clearly thought he was a valuable enough asset to warrant being kept alive and frozen in the first place.
3rd Jan '17 5:55:38 PM Lloigor
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* There was a time where writers kept trying to explain the famously fan-service laden ComicBook/PowerGirl costume. The resultant explanations were almost invariably absurd, the most infamous being the claim that she left the "boob window" on her outfit with the intention of putting a Superman logo there once she got his permission (if it was such a big deal, why not just put some normal cloth there and patch the logo over it later?). The worst part about is the completely unnecessary nature of the answer; Power Girl could just like the costume design

to:

* There was a time where writers kept trying to explain the famously fan-service laden ComicBook/PowerGirl costume. The resultant explanations were almost invariably absurd, the most infamous being the claim that she left the "boob window" on her outfit with the intention of putting a Superman logo there once she got his permission (if it was such a big deal, why not just put some normal cloth there and patch the logo over it later?). The worst part about is the completely unnecessary nature of the answer; Power Girl could just like the costume designdesign.
1st Jan '17 7:23:46 AM WickedIcon
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** Hell, for that matter, why not just re-dose the nanomachines if they get knocked out?
21st Dec '16 6:15:38 PM omnicritic
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** And then there is the Extended Cut of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. The writers attempt to solve the plot hole regarding the squad members of [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard]] somehow getting onto the [[CoolSpaceship Normandy]]. This was a plot hole since they magically somehow got onto the ship while they were involved in the ground battle in London. How did they solve that? In the scene where [[EldritchAbomination Harbinger]] uses his lasers to quickly take out ground forces like it is Omaha beach, the squad members get injured. Shepard then calls the Normandy to pick them up. The ship arrives (from space battle in orbit) onto the surface in 5 seconds while it had to pass a fleet of Reapers that were on their way to Earth. And if that wasn't bad enough, Harbinger [[TooDumbToLive forgets]] to just laser the ship out of the sky for the whole minute of two it was hanging around as a sitting duck.

to:

** And then there is the Extended Cut of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. The writers attempt to solve the plot hole regarding the squad members of [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard]] somehow getting onto the [[CoolSpaceship Normandy]]. This was a plot hole since they magically somehow got onto the ship while they were involved in the ground battle in London. How did they solve that? In the scene where [[EldritchAbomination Harbinger]] uses his lasers to quickly take out ground forces like it is Omaha beach, the squad members get injured. Shepard then calls the Normandy to pick them up. The ship arrives (from space battle in orbit) onto the surface in 5 seconds while it had to pass a fleet of Reapers that were on their way to Earth. And if that wasn't bad enough, Harbinger [[TooDumbToLive forgets]] to just laser the ship out of the sky for the whole minute of two it was hanging around as a sitting duck. It's possible that it's because Harbinger was simply too busy ensuring nobody got to the conduit to attack the Normany.
16th Dec '16 9:24:41 AM ChadM
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** ''Film/HighlanderIITheQuickening'' decided that the Immortals were actually a race of alien political exiles, which raises the question: when Christopher Lambert asked Sean Connery why certain people are immortal, what was all that "why does the sun rise in the east" crap? And this even goes back to the holy ground thing. Why would aliens care about human religions? Also, if the BigBad is worried about being overthrown, why doesn't he move his base of operations to Earth where he would be immortal while banishing any upstarts to places where they wouldn't be? Or better yet, why would you give political exiles the chance to obtain the "Prize," I.E. the chance to become a '''[[PhysicalGod GOD?]]''' [[CanonDiscontinuity The alien explanation was quickly]] [[{{Retcon}} retconned.]]

to:

** ''Film/HighlanderIITheQuickening'' decided that the Immortals were actually a race of alien political exiles, which raises the question: when Christopher Lambert asked Sean Connery why certain people are immortal, what was all that "why does the sun rise in the east" crap? And this even goes back to the holy ground thing. Why would aliens care about human religions? Also, if the BigBad is worried about being overthrown, why doesn't he move his base of operations to Earth where he would be immortal while banishing any upstarts to places where they wouldn't be? Or better yet, why would you give political exiles the chance to obtain the "Prize," I.E. the chance to become a '''[[PhysicalGod GOD?]]''' [[CanonDiscontinuity The alien explanation was quickly]] [[{{Retcon}} retconned.]]]] The retcon still raises the question of why the villain, being able to see into the future, wouldn't realize that Connor posed no threat to him (but that realization would prevent the entire movie from happening in the first place). Later installments just ignore the movie outright.
This list shows the last 10 events of 1202. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.VoodooShark