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8th Jan '17 11:18:55 AM nombretomado
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** And Sith- mustn't forget the Sith. They really started out as extra special, extra dangerous villains, but now they're ''everywhere''- [[StarWarsLegacy Legacy]] and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' had Sith Big Bads, while Comicbook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic and Literature/FateOfTheJedi have Sith among their villains in various ways (not to mention anything set during the clone wars or the Galactic Civil War will have Darth Sidious/the Emperor as BigBad, or more often BiggerBad, by default). Of course, the Sith are certainly Scary and Dogmatic, even if they aren't all aliens, so they could also be said to fit in with the above as well...

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** And Sith- mustn't forget the Sith. They really started out as extra special, extra dangerous villains, but now they're ''everywhere''- [[StarWarsLegacy Legacy]] ComicBook/{{Legacy}} and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' had Sith Big Bads, while Comicbook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic and Literature/FateOfTheJedi have Sith among their villains in various ways (not to mention anything set during the clone wars or the Galactic Civil War will have Darth Sidious/the Emperor as BigBad, or more often BiggerBad, by default). Of course, the Sith are certainly Scary and Dogmatic, even if they aren't all aliens, so they could also be said to fit in with the above as well...
5th Oct '16 2:41:38 PM Liamdurf
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** Season 7 goes yet another step further, retiring angels to replace them with even older, angel-killing Leviathans, so the pedigree goes: Ghosts < Demons < Angels < Leviathans. Though the Leviathans eventually turn out to be an subversion of this trope, as despite their hype their main abilities seem to be limited to shapeshifting and NighInvulnerability, and they have a WeaksauceWeakness in the form of borax. Despite being able to kill the Angels (or at least the weaker ones), they're almost certainly weaker than the also [[SuperpowerLottery nigh invulnerable, face-melting, reality-warping, time traveling, dead-resurrecting, dimension teleporting]] celestials, and if it weren't for the below-mentioned one-hit-kill knife, would probably be rivaled by demons. If the angels weren't busy dealing with the aftermath of their civil war, they'd probably still be running the show on Earth. It also gets straight-up inverted at the end of season 7, as the Demons dispatch the entire Leviathan army by themselves in short order after the Winchesters killed the Levi leader.

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** Season 7 goes yet another step further, retiring angels to replace them with even older, angel-killing Leviathans, so the pedigree goes: Ghosts < Demons < Angels < Leviathans. Though the Leviathans eventually turn out to be an a subversion of this trope, as despite their hype their main abilities seem to be limited to shapeshifting and NighInvulnerability, and they have a WeaksauceWeakness in the form of borax. Despite being able to kill the Angels (or at least the weaker ones), they're almost certainly weaker than the also [[SuperpowerLottery nigh invulnerable, face-melting, reality-warping, time traveling, dead-resurrecting, dimension teleporting]] celestials, and if it weren't for the below-mentioned one-hit-kill knife, would probably be rivaled by demons. If the angels weren't busy dealing with the aftermath of their civil war, they'd probably still be running the show on Earth. It also gets straight-up inverted at the end of season 7, as the Demons dispatch the entire Leviathan army by themselves in short order after the Winchesters killed the Levi leader.
22nd Nov '15 12:25:52 AM jormis29
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* In the ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankToolsOfDestruction'', the player starts by fighting the villain's simple mercenary armies. However, in the second half of the game the mercenaries are replaced by monstrous EliteMooks from the villain's own race who can phase in and out of matter.

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* In the ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankToolsOfDestruction'', ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction'', the player starts by fighting the villain's simple mercenary armies. However, in the second half of the game the mercenaries are replaced by monstrous EliteMooks from the villain's own race who can phase in and out of matter.
21st Nov '15 8:12:02 PM Willbyr
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* Likewise, in BusouRenkin, the original monsters were human-eating monstrous homunculi. Eventually it got to the point where our heroes could beat a whole horde of them and still have enough energy to face the BigBad and hold their own. It was at that point that no new homunculi characters were introduced, and the villains became [[spoiler: humans with Busou Renkin themselves, and way more fighting experience.]]
* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in the first ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.

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* Likewise, in BusouRenkin, ''Manga/BusouRenkin'', the original monsters were human-eating monstrous homunculi. Eventually it got to the point where our heroes could beat a whole horde of them and still have enough energy to face the BigBad and hold their own. It was at that point that no new homunculi characters were introduced, and the villains became [[spoiler: humans with Busou Renkin themselves, and way more fighting experience.]]
* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in the first ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.
17th Jul '15 7:17:24 PM JRads47
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* ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'': The first arc features {{Beast| Folk}}men as the main antagonists piloting their mecha. After Lordgenome is defeated and the Beastmen make a HeelRaceTurn, [[spoiler:the [[DimensionLord Anti-Spiral]]]] steps up as the main antagonist, and he uses {{Eldritch Abomination}}s to combat the heroes.
10th Jul '15 6:19:53 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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'''Sam Winchester:''' Thanks. Good luck killing Death. ''(beat)'' Remember when we used to just hunt {{wendigo}}s? How simple things were?

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'''Sam Winchester:''' Thanks. Good luck killing Death. ''(beat)'' Remember when we used to just hunt {{wendigo}}s? wendigos? How simple things were?
10th Jul '15 5:57:51 PM nombretomado
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* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in the first ''NanohaStrikerS'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.

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* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in the first ''NanohaStrikerS'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.
3rd Jul '15 1:27:58 PM Servbot
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* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in first ''NanohaStrikerS'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.

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* The MagicalGirl type [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] in ''LyricalNanoha'' were quickly regulated to easily-dealt-with distraction status by the half-way point of [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the first season]] as the series moved to battles against other mages and knights, armies of AntiMagic-protected MechaMooks, and different kinds of {{Super Soldier}}s. When one such monster showed up in the first ''NanohaStrikerS'' [[AudioAdaptation Sound Stage]], it was treated as something for the rookies to practice what they learned in training on.
12th May '15 4:00:02 PM nombretomado
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* Franchise/{{Superman}}, as well as most other superheroes created during TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, started off their careers fighting ordinary human criminals, Nazi soldiers or even just factory owners who didn't treat their employees right. Having a superhero fight an equally powerful supervillain was originally a rare, though very exciting, event. It wasn't until the Silver Age that superhero/supervillain conflicts became the staple of superhero comics.

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}, as well as most other superheroes created during TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, started off their careers fighting ordinary human criminals, Nazi soldiers or even just factory owners who didn't treat their employees right. Having a superhero fight an equally powerful supervillain was originally a rare, though very exciting, event. It wasn't until the Silver Age that superhero/supervillain conflicts became the staple of superhero comics.
14th Apr '15 6:45:14 PM nombretomado
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* Some of the [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] villains that Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} fought have been forgotten or turned into a HarmlessVillain when Daredevil became DarkerAndEdgier in the 80s, especially when Bullseye and Kingpin became Daredevil's ArchNemesis. Some villains like Mr. Fear and Purple Man have been updated to fit this new [[TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]], but others, especially Stilt-Man, have been left behind.

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* Some of the [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] villains that Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} fought have been forgotten or turned into a HarmlessVillain when Daredevil became DarkerAndEdgier in the 80s, especially when Bullseye and Kingpin became Daredevil's ArchNemesis. Some villains like Mr. Fear and Purple Man have been updated to fit this new [[TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]], but others, especially Stilt-Man, have been left behind.
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