History Main / UrbanWarfare

16th Jan '18 2:12:58 PM Commander_Ysenir
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series has two major examples.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series has two many major examples.examples.
** The very first ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' featured the post-apocalyptic ruins of Los Angeles, now called the Boneyard, filled with post-nuclear gangs and [[DemonicSpiders Deathclaws]]. Naturally, you get to shoot them, fitting this trope to a T.
** Urban combat is very frequent in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' when you're roaming the streets of Washington DC. Super Mutants, Raiders, Talon Company mercenaries, and eventually the Enclave love to engage you from overhead cover in the bombed-out buildings. The outskirts of DC also have their share of urban combat, and the few decent-sized ruined towns in the Wasteland itself feature this as well. ''The Pitt'' DLC also has this in the ruins of Pittsburgh.



* Urban combat is frequent in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' when you're roaming the streets of Washington DC. Super Mutants, Raiders, Talon Company mercenaries, and eventually the Enclave love to engage you from overhead cover in the bombed-out buildings. The outskirts of DC also have their share of urban combat, and the few decent-sized ruined towns in the Wasteland itself feature this as well. ''The Pitt'' DLC also has this in the ruins of Pittsburgh.
23rd Dec '17 5:54:43 PM nombretomado
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Known in the [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks US Army]] as MOUT (military operations in urban terrain) and in the [[BritsWithBattleships British Army]] as [[FunWithAcronyms FISH (fighting in someone's home)]].

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Known in the [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks US Army]] as MOUT (military operations in urban terrain) and in the [[BritsWithBattleships [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships British Army]] as [[FunWithAcronyms FISH (fighting in someone's home)]].
28th Nov '17 6:00:03 PM nombretomado
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* The concept of an "open city" is meant to avert the kind of destruction and suffering this trope can bring onto a city and its many inhabitants. In short, if the defenders declare it, they will no longer fight within the city--in exchange, the attackers are expected to simply march in and refrain from attacking any part of it. This idea has pretty much been only used in World War Two--Brussels, Oslo, Paris, Belgrade, Singapore, Manila, Rome, and Athens were all declared open cities when their defense became untenable. The idea hasn't been employed since (for several possible reasons--[[TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar the Geneva Conventions]] being expanded, more wars being fought by groups in the same country, wars in general taking on a more personal character and therefore refraining less on collateral damage, 24-hour media coverage of any large-scale conflict imposing major PR penalties for any side caught committing atrocities, etc.), though several cities in Japan are considering legislation that would mandate such a move if they were ever invaded.

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* The concept of an "open city" is meant to avert the kind of destruction and suffering this trope can bring onto a city and its many inhabitants. In short, if the defenders declare it, they will no longer fight within the city--in exchange, the attackers are expected to simply march in and refrain from attacking any part of it. This idea has pretty much been only used in World War Two--Brussels, Oslo, Paris, Belgrade, Singapore, Manila, Rome, and Athens were all declared open cities when their defense became untenable. The idea hasn't been employed since (for several possible reasons--[[TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar reasons--[[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar the Geneva Conventions]] being expanded, more wars being fought by groups in the same country, wars in general taking on a more personal character and therefore refraining less on collateral damage, 24-hour media coverage of any large-scale conflict imposing major PR penalties for any side caught committing atrocities, etc.), though several cities in Japan are considering legislation that would mandate such a move if they were ever invaded.
28th Nov '17 5:59:55 PM nombretomado
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* There was a tradition in TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar as understood pre-nineteenth century that if there was no surrender after the wall was breached, then the invaders had three days to sack it without it being considered a war crime, because Urban Warfare was feared so much that preventing it by intimidation was considered justified.

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* There was a tradition in TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar as understood pre-nineteenth century that if there was no surrender after the wall was breached, then the invaders had three days to sack it without it being considered a war crime, because Urban Warfare was feared so much that preventing it by intimidation was considered justified.
19th Nov '17 9:33:03 PM TheWildWestPyro
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** The UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar had its share of battles in cities such as Shanghai, Nanking, Changsha, Changde, Wuhan and Taierzhuang. The defense of Nanking was a CurbStompBattle for the Chinese army, but while Shanghai ended in defeat, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Sihang_Warehouse 423 Chinese troops]] defended a warehouse for 4 days against the Japanese 3rd division, killing 200 Japanese and destroying several armored cars with stick grenades. Wuhan was defended furiously by the Chinese, with an entire quarter ''of their total ammunition'' being used up, but ultimately fell to Japan. That all said, Taierzhuang saw the first Chinese victory of the war, with warlord soldiers (often armed with [[SwordAndGun just swords and Mauser pistols]]) literally turning the streets red with blood in hand-to-hand combat with the Japanese. Meanwhile, better-equipped Central Army troops successfully encircled the Japanese, then engaged in truly fierce house-to-house fighting, to the point where platoons would fight for hours to capture ''one room.'' Changsha is remarkable for being successfully defended three times, from 1939-41, until it fell in 1944. The bloody battle of Changde saw the city fall to Japan in January 1944, but the Japanese were quickly forced to withdraw following a successful Chinese counterattack with air support.

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** The UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar had its share of battles in cities such as Shanghai, Nanking, Changsha, Changde, Wuhan and Taierzhuang. The defense of Nanking was a CurbStompBattle for the Chinese army, but while Shanghai ended in defeat, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Sihang_Warehouse 423 Chinese troops]] defended a warehouse for 4 days against the Japanese 3rd division, killing 200 Japanese and destroying several armored cars with stick grenades. Wuhan was defended furiously by the Chinese, with an entire quarter ''of their total ammunition'' being used up, but ultimately fell to Japan. That all said, Taierzhuang saw the first Chinese victory of the war, with fanatical warlord soldiers (often armed with [[SwordAndGun just swords and Mauser pistols]]) pistols]] along with stick grenades) literally turning the streets red with blood in hand-to-hand combat with the Japanese. Meanwhile, better-equipped Central Army troops successfully encircled the Japanese, then engaged in truly fierce house-to-house fighting, to the point where platoons would fight for hours to capture ''one room.'' Changsha is remarkable for being successfully defended three times, from 1939-41, until it fell in 1944. The bloody battle of Changde saw the city fall to Japan in January 1944, but the Japanese were quickly forced to withdraw following a successful Chinese counterattack with air support.
19th Nov '17 9:25:24 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* The suppression of the Paris Commune. While the June Days in 1848 [[note]] not to be confused with the much smaller June Rebellion of 1832, shown in LesMiserables][[/note]] had been bad enough, with over 10,000 total casualties, its reprise in 1871 was a horror show, with the ''entire commune'' being reduced to rubble from repeated artillery bombardment. Estimates start at 10,000 ''killed'' and go up from there. Arbitrary summary executions were only halted because the cemeteries were full and the city was at risk of an epidemic from all the corpses. Put another way, it was this slaughter that convinced KarlMarx and other socialists that there could be no peaceful path to revolution. As VladimirLenin put it: "20,000 killed in the streets...Lesson: bourgeoisie will stop at ''nothing''."

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* The suppression of the Paris Commune. While the June Days in 1848 [[note]] not to be confused with the much smaller June Rebellion of 1832, shown in LesMiserables][[/note]] had been bad enough, with over 10,000 total casualties, its reprise in 1871 was a horror show, with the ''entire commune'' being reduced to rubble from repeated artillery bombardment.bombardment and a fire. Estimates start at 10,000 ''killed'' and go up from there. Arbitrary summary executions were only halted because the cemeteries were full and the city was at risk of an epidemic from all the corpses. Put another way, it was this slaughter that convinced KarlMarx and other socialists that there could be no peaceful path to revolution. As VladimirLenin put it: "20,000 killed in the streets...Lesson: bourgeoisie will stop at ''nothing''."
19th Nov '17 9:24:34 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* The suppression of the Paris Commune. While the June Days in 1848 [[note]] not to be confused with the much smaller June Rebellion of 1832, shown in LesMiserables][[/note]] had been bad enough, with over 10,000 total casualties, its reprise in 1871 was a horror show. Estimates start at 10,000 ''killed'' and go up from there. Arbitrary summary executions were only halted because the cemeteries were full and the city was at risk of an epidemic from all the corpses. Put another way, it was this slaughter that convinced KarlMarx and other socialists that there could be no peaceful path to revolution. As VladimirLenin put it: "20,000 killed in the streets...Lesson: bourgeoisie will stop at ''nothing''."

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* The suppression of the Paris Commune. While the June Days in 1848 [[note]] not to be confused with the much smaller June Rebellion of 1832, shown in LesMiserables][[/note]] had been bad enough, with over 10,000 total casualties, its reprise in 1871 was a horror show.show, with the ''entire commune'' being reduced to rubble from repeated artillery bombardment. Estimates start at 10,000 ''killed'' and go up from there. Arbitrary summary executions were only halted because the cemeteries were full and the city was at risk of an epidemic from all the corpses. Put another way, it was this slaughter that convinced KarlMarx and other socialists that there could be no peaceful path to revolution. As VladimirLenin put it: "20,000 killed in the streets...Lesson: bourgeoisie will stop at ''nothing''."
15th Nov '17 6:00:57 PM penguinist
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* The suppression of the Paris Commune. While the June Days in 1848 [[note]] not to be confused with the much smaller June Rebellion of 1832, shown in LesMiserables][[/note]] had been bad enough, with over 10,000 total casualties, its reprise in 1871 was a horror show. Estimates start at 10,000 ''killed'' and go up from there. Arbitrary summary executions were only halted because the cemeteries were full and the city was at risk of an epidemic from all the corpses. Put another way, it was this slaughter that convinced KarlMarx and other socialists that there could be no peaceful path to revolution. As VladimirLenin put it: "20,000 killed in the streets...Lesson: bourgeoisie will stop at ''nothing''."
23rd Oct '17 4:49:59 PM Rmpdc
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** Also from the Pacific Theater is Garapan on Saipan. While on a much smaller scale compared to Manila, the fighting was so intense that by the end of the fighting, the village had been virtually destroyed to the point that the people who lived there had to be repatriated back to Japan, and the village itself be built again from the ground up.
14th Oct '17 3:42:56 PM TheWildWestPyro
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** The UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar had its share of battles in cities such as Shanghai, Nanking, Changsha, Changde, Wuhan and Taierzhuang. The defense of Nanking was a CurbStompBattle for the Chinese army, but while Shanghai ended in defeat, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Sihang_Warehouse 423 Chinese troops]] defended a warehouse for 4 days against the Japanese 3rd division, killing 200 Japanese and destroying several armored cars with stick grenades. Wuhan was defended furiously by the Chinese, with an entire quarter ''of their total ammunition'' being used up, but ultimately fell to Japan. That all said, Taierzhuang saw the first Chinese victory of the war, with warlord soldiers (often armed with [[SwordAndGun just swords and pistols]]) literally turning the streets red with blood in hand-to-hand combat with the Japanese. Meanwhile, better-equipped Central Army troops successfully encircled the Japanese, then engaged in truly fierce house-to-house fighting, to the point where platoons would fight for hours to capture ''one room.'' Changsha is remarkable for being successfully defended three times, from 1939-41, until it fell in 1944. The bloody battle of Changde saw the city fall to Japan in January 1944, but the Japanese were quickly forced to withdraw following a successful Chinese counterattack with air support.

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** The UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar had its share of battles in cities such as Shanghai, Nanking, Changsha, Changde, Wuhan and Taierzhuang. The defense of Nanking was a CurbStompBattle for the Chinese army, but while Shanghai ended in defeat, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Sihang_Warehouse 423 Chinese troops]] defended a warehouse for 4 days against the Japanese 3rd division, killing 200 Japanese and destroying several armored cars with stick grenades. Wuhan was defended furiously by the Chinese, with an entire quarter ''of their total ammunition'' being used up, but ultimately fell to Japan. That all said, Taierzhuang saw the first Chinese victory of the war, with warlord soldiers (often armed with [[SwordAndGun just swords and Mauser pistols]]) literally turning the streets red with blood in hand-to-hand combat with the Japanese. Meanwhile, better-equipped Central Army troops successfully encircled the Japanese, then engaged in truly fierce house-to-house fighting, to the point where platoons would fight for hours to capture ''one room.'' Changsha is remarkable for being successfully defended three times, from 1939-41, until it fell in 1944. The bloody battle of Changde saw the city fall to Japan in January 1944, but the Japanese were quickly forced to withdraw following a successful Chinese counterattack with air support.
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