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18th Jun '17 3:03:37 AM lillolillo
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* Averted in ''Manga/CityHunter''. Ryo is legally dead since he was three and the aircraft he was on with his parents crashed, and has returned to Japan as a stowaway on a ship. Because of this he doesn't legally exist, and can't hold a real job, administer his own money (Kaori does it for him), or marrying.



* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' when [[spoiler:Gwen Stacy comes back to life]] and a letter from Iron Man to the Vice Principal doesn't immediately clear things up.

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* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' when [[spoiler:Gwen Stacy comes back to life]] and a letter from Iron Man Franchie/IronMan to the Vice Principal doesn't immediately clear things up.
9th May '17 5:03:22 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Averted and touched upon in Creator/DouglasAdams' novel ''Literature/TheLongDarkTeaTimeOfTheSoul'', in which Dirk Gently realizes that the god Thor would have a huge amount of difficulty if he wanted to use an airplane because he has no passport, no birth certificate . . .

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* Averted and touched upon in Creator/DouglasAdams' novel ''Literature/TheLongDarkTeaTimeOfTheSoul'', in which Dirk Gently realizes that the god Thor would have a huge amount of difficulty if he wanted to use an airplane because he has no passport, no birth certificate . . .certificate...



** The new series has had various moments where the various undercover aliens' disguises were imperfect enough for regular human journalists to pick up upon them, examples being Margaret Blaine[=/=]Blon Slitheen, and the Master -- for example, because no one at the university he supposedly went to could recall him. Unfortunately, the villainous alien in question will typically make quick work of anyone who finds them out before the protagonists arrive . . .

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** The new series has had various moments where the various undercover aliens' disguises were imperfect enough for regular human journalists to pick up upon them, examples being Margaret Blaine[=/=]Blon Slitheen, and the Master -- for example, because no one at the university he supposedly went to could recall him. Unfortunately, the villainous alien in question will typically make quick work of anyone who finds them out before the protagonists arrive . . .arrive...
2nd May '17 8:38:30 AM AnotherDuck
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[[folder:Real Life]]
* In most nations that keep track of citizens' identities, forging bogus credentials for fugitives and illegal immigrants is a major criminal industry.
** In the U.S. this ends up being the opposite of "tax exemption", as illegal immigrants working jobs while using Social Security numbers from dead people pay Social Security taxes into the Social Security system. Since the identity is forged, they will never collect back the Social Security taxes they paid into the system. One estimate puts the amount of extra Social Security money from illegal immigrants at $7 billion.
* Individuals whose original identities are unknown, such as abandoned infants or the occasional amnesiac, may need to have fresh identity documentation issued if their names can't be determined.
** Each year, thousands of people in the U.S. submit formal requests for the belated issue of a valid birth certificate for themselves. Usually, these applicants are either the elderly, who've kept what they ''thought'' was a legitimate birth certificate for their whole lives without realizing it was just a celebratory memento from the maternity ward, or to teenagers born to parents who'd been living "off the grid" or under false names. They often don't realize how crucial it is to have such a document until they try to apply for Social Security or a Medicare card, or (if young) to get a driver's license.
* There were numerous cases in the Soviet Union after WorldWarTwo when deserters, Nazi collaborators and other war criminals obtained other persons' [=IDs=] using the general chaos of the war zone and successfully reentered the Soviet society, being outed years later.
** Also true in most of Central Europe after World War II. Most of government infrastructure and records were destroyed or at least badly disrupted. Practically every country was full of refugees, fugitives, or deserters from many countries. Many people "reinvented" themselves out of whole cloth.
** Also true of Japan after the war. In the case of Okinawa in particular, a third of the island's population was killed in the battle, and official records for the remainder (as well as many historical documents of the old Ryukyu Kingdom) were destroyed. US Occupation authorities basically had to take people at their word, and more than a few apparently took the opportunity to "reinvent" themselves.
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29th Apr '17 5:43:03 PM Saber15
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* In ''Beneath a Gated Sky'' by Creator/RobertReed'', The Few that travel between dimensions send someone ahead to spend decades building up influence so that they can ''avoid'' this in the first place, allowing them to set up false identities relatively painlessly. When a group of Few enters a new realm intent on settling, they are given a crash course in history and customs by one of those scouts, and relevant paperwork is filed and manipulated.

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* In ''Beneath a Gated Sky'' by Creator/RobertReed'', Creator/RobertReed, The Few that travel between dimensions send someone ahead to spend decades building up influence so that they can ''avoid'' this in the first place, allowing them to set up false identities relatively painlessly. When a group of Few enters a new realm intent on settling, they are given a crash course in history and customs by one of those scouts, and relevant paperwork is filed and manipulated.
29th Apr '17 5:42:44 PM Saber15
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* In ''Beneath a Gated Sky'' by Creator/RobertReed'', The Few that travel between dimensions send someone ahead to spend decades building up influence so that they can ''avoid'' this in the first place, allowing them to set up false identities relatively painlessly. When a group of Few enters a new realm intent on settling, they are given a crash course in history and customs by one of those scouts, and relevant paperwork is filed and manipulated.
27th Apr '17 10:06:00 AM FF32
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* ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'':

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* ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'': ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona'':



*** Marie in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Golden]]'' somehow is even worse than Teddie in logistic department; with her previously living in a place between conscious and uncosncious, even less social skill than the previous attendants of the Velvet Room, without identity and memory, [[spoiler:said memory turns out to be a part of AnthropomorphicPersonification of mankind's desire shaped like a Japanese Goddess tasked to be the garbage bin for the fog her fellow aspects expelled after they were defeated, and disappeared after you kick said Japanese Goddess' ass in final boss fight]]. Cue a year later, and she becomes a weather forecaster on TV, a quite famous one at that. [[spoiler: Probably justified as after the final battle, said Goddess and her aspects fused with Marie, and she gained their powers. When you can do things such as ''change the weather on a cheerful whim'', you likely don't need to worry about little things such as establishing a paper identity.]]

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*** Marie in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Golden]]'' somehow is even worse than Teddie in logistic department; with her previously living in a place between conscious and uncosncious, unconscious, even less social skill than the previous attendants of the Velvet Room, without identity and memory, [[spoiler:said memory turns out to be a part of AnthropomorphicPersonification of mankind's desire shaped like a Japanese Goddess tasked to be the garbage bin for the fog her fellow aspects expelled after they were defeated, and disappeared after you kick said Japanese Goddess' ass in final boss fight]]. Cue a year later, and she becomes a weather forecaster on TV, a quite famous one at that. [[spoiler: Probably justified as after the final battle, said Goddess and her aspects fused with Marie, and she gained their powers. When you can do things such as ''change the weather on a cheerful whim'', you likely don't need to worry about little things such as establishing a paper identity.]]
18th Apr '17 10:07:33 PM DarkHunter
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** I believe it's mentioned that she does the equivalent of "pay in cash up front", and yeah, she possesses the same Mystic Eyes as Ciel. (Gold, brainwash).
16th Apr '17 8:51:34 PM Fireblood
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* Averted example in ''{{Series/Eureka}}'' after a women thought to be dead shows up in town due it having been a clone that died, Carter begins going on and on about how hard it'll be to convince all the bureaucracies that declared her dead that she now alive. Only to find out the town of Eureka [[CrazyPrepared has a standard Resurrection Form that takes care of everything.]]

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* Averted example in ''{{Series/Eureka}}'' after a women thought to be dead shows up in town due it having been a clone that died, Carter begins going on and on about how hard it'll be to convince all the bureaucracies that declared her dead that she she's now alive. Only to find out the town of Eureka [[CrazyPrepared has a standard Resurrection Form that takes care of everything.]]
16th Apr '17 8:41:00 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Wizards and muggles generally live in two separate societies, but in the times when the two worlds must interact this trope can come into play. Wizard children born to magical parents are presumably never registered to receive birth certificates given wizards' general ignorance of muggle custom, yet Ron receives a drivers license in Deathly Hallows. Muggle-borns could cause problems as well, given that at the age of eleven they suddenly disappear from the muggle society for ten months out of the year. The Ministry of Magic maintains a staff of "Obliviators", wizards and witches who specialize in memory charms. Usually their job is to cover up public displays of magic or appearances by magical beings. However, it is quite reasonable to imagine that they also perform the necessary manipulations of muggle authorities to manage children who seemingly drop out of sight. At one point the Ministry even arranges to have the ''president'' of a foreign country "forget" to call the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and reschedules for them to do so the following day, thus showing the extent of their reach. It's also possible that getting these kinds of things taken care of is part of the reason the two governments work together at all.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Wizards and muggles generally live in two separate societies, but in the times when the two worlds must interact this trope can come into play. Wizard children born to magical parents are presumably never registered to receive birth certificates given wizards' general ignorance of muggle custom, yet Ron receives a drivers driver's license in Deathly Hallows. Muggle-borns could cause problems as well, given that at the age of eleven they suddenly disappear from the muggle society for ten months out of the year. The Ministry of Magic maintains a staff of "Obliviators", wizards and witches who specialize in memory charms. Usually their job is to cover up public displays of magic or appearances by magical beings. However, it is quite reasonable to imagine that they also perform the necessary manipulations of muggle authorities to manage children who seemingly drop out of sight. At one point the Ministry even arranges to have the ''president'' of a foreign country "forget" to call the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and reschedules for them to do so the following day, thus showing the extent of their reach. It's also possible that getting these kinds of things taken care of is part of the reason the two governments work together at all.
16th Apr '17 8:31:50 PM Fireblood
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** Funny enough, the INS agent is less concerned with the Coneheads being aliens (i.e. extraterrestrials) than them being ''illegal'' aliens.

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** Funny Funnily enough, the INS agent is less concerned with the Coneheads being aliens (i.e. extraterrestrials) than them being ''illegal'' aliens.
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