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27th Apr '16 6:29:41 AM Rorosilky5
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** ''VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot'' has the Robobot Armor. While it is capable of PowerCopying, one of them becomes an auto-scrolling jet.
19th Apr '16 11:38:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The variable fighters of the ''Anime/Macross'' franchise, which are transforming fighter jets, with each series's main protagonist always piloting one. The titular ''Macross'' class of vessels are ''[[strike: the]]'' [[{{Transformers}} some of the]] largest transforming mecha ever shown on television. The original ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross SDF Macross]]'' was over one kilometer tall. The Battle sections of the later ''New Macross'' class vessels, when transformed into humanoid form, are ''almost a mile tall''. ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' also has the VB-6 ''König Monster'' variable bomber, which can transform into a walking heavy artillery platform.

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* The variable fighters of the ''Anime/Macross'' ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' franchise, which are transforming fighter jets, with each series's main protagonist always piloting one. The titular ''Macross'' class of vessels are ''[[strike: the]]'' [[{{Transformers}} some of the]] largest transforming mecha ever shown on television. The original ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross SDF Macross]]'' was over one kilometer tall. The Battle sections of the later ''New Macross'' class vessels, when transformed into humanoid form, are ''almost a mile tall''. ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' also has the VB-6 ''König Monster'' variable bomber, which can transform into a walking heavy artillery platform.
19th Apr '16 11:38:07 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Most terrestrial mecha in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'', and [[Anime/MacrossPlus all]] [[Anime/MacrossZero related]] [[Anime/MacrossFrontier series]], and one is always flown by the main protagonist. The titular ''Macross'' class of vessels are ''[[strike: the]]'' [[{{Transformers}} some of the]] largest transforming mecha ever shown on television. The original ''SDF Macross'' was over one kilometer tall. The Battle sections of the later ''New Macross'' class vessels, when transformed into humanoid form, are ''almost a mile tall''.
** Additionally, there is a reasonable explanation for the use of these mechas (well, at least the fighter-jet sized ones), something not all [[RealRobot Real]] or SuperRobot shows care to give to the viewers, mind it. In the first few episodes of [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross the original series]], [[{{Badass}} Roy Focker]] states that the Valkyries were designed to be able to fight "on even grounds" with the Zentradi. While most GiantRobot shows have mechs almost entirely for RuleOfCool, a quick flash of FridgeBrilliance makes one realize that "on even grounds" doesn't mean tech-wise, but the fact that using Variable Fighters (VF-1's) is the ''only'' way to engage in true infantry-based-warfare with [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever the Zentradi]], while their jet-based primary form is to provide fast, long-distance travel that would normally be provided by transport planes/choppers, and the Gerwalk transitional form exists (as stated in the show itself) as a VTOL form for difficult terrain for taking off in the Valkyrie form and landing in the Battroid form. There is a certain degree of MundaneUtility to the Gerwalk mode as well, some supplementary materials state that this is the mode that they use to transport Valkyries around the hanger for maintenance outside of combat.

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* Most terrestrial mecha in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'', and [[Anime/MacrossPlus all]] [[Anime/MacrossZero related]] [[Anime/MacrossFrontier series]], and one is The variable fighters of the ''Anime/Macross'' franchise, which are transforming fighter jets, with each series's main protagonist always flown by the main protagonist.piloting one. The titular ''Macross'' class of vessels are ''[[strike: the]]'' [[{{Transformers}} some of the]] largest transforming mecha ever shown on television. The original ''SDF Macross'' ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross SDF Macross]]'' was over one kilometer tall. The Battle sections of the later ''New Macross'' class vessels, when transformed into humanoid form, are ''almost a mile tall''.
tall''. ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' also has the VB-6 ''König Monster'' variable bomber, which can transform into a walking heavy artillery platform.
** Additionally, there is a reasonable explanation for the use of these mechas (well, at least the fighter-jet sized fighter-jet-sized ones), something not all [[RealRobot Real]] or SuperRobot shows care to give to the viewers, mind it. In the first few episodes of [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross the original series]], [[{{Badass}} Roy Focker]] states that the Valkyries were designed to be able to fight "on even grounds" with the Zentradi. While most GiantRobot shows have mechs almost entirely for RuleOfCool, a quick flash of FridgeBrilliance makes one realize that "on even grounds" doesn't mean tech-wise, but the fact that using Variable Fighters (VF-1's) is the ''only'' way to engage in true infantry-based-warfare with [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever the Zentradi]], while their jet-based primary form is to provide fast, long-distance travel that would normally be provided by transport planes/choppers, and the Gerwalk transitional form exists (as stated in the show itself) as a VTOL form for difficult terrain for when taking off in the Valkyrie form and landing in the Battroid form. There is a certain degree of MundaneUtility to the Gerwalk mode as well, as some supplementary materials state that this is the mode that they use to transport Valkyries around the hanger for maintenance outside of combat.combat; it's also often used to pull off maneuvers that wouldn't be possible with a regular jet, like using the leg boosters to quickly reverse direction and get behind an opponent.



** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which became the basis for ''{{Transformers}}''.

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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross ''Macross'' toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone ''Diaclone'' line which became the basis for ''{{Transformers}}''.''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''.
19th Apr '16 11:17:49 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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A variation, sometimes used in combination, is [[MechaExpansionPack the modular parts system]], with which a mecha can re-equip with different tools and weapons for different jobs, like the FAST packs from 'Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' or the weapon systems from ''WesternAnimation/{{Centurions}}'' . This type of system is in use in real-life militaries, which have such things as up-armoring kits for vehicles and universal hard-points on combat aircraft.

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A variation, sometimes used in combination, is [[MechaExpansionPack the modular parts system]], with which a mecha can re-equip with different tools and weapons for different jobs, like the FAST packs from 'Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' or the weapon systems from ''WesternAnimation/{{Centurions}}'' . This type of system is in use in real-life militaries, which have such things as up-armoring kits for vehicles and universal hard-points on combat aircraft.
19th Apr '16 11:17:38 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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A variation, sometimes used in combination, is [[MechaExpansionPack the modular parts system]], with which a mecha can re-equip with different tools and weapons for different jobs, like the FAST packs from ''{{Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross}}'' or the weapon systems from ''WesternAnimation/{{Centurions}}'' . This type of system is in use in real-life militaries, which have such things as up-armoring kits for vehicles and universal hard-points on combat aircraft.

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A variation, sometimes used in combination, is [[MechaExpansionPack the modular parts system]], with which a mecha can re-equip with different tools and weapons for different jobs, like the FAST packs from ''{{Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross}}'' 'Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' or the weapon systems from ''WesternAnimation/{{Centurions}}'' . This type of system is in use in real-life militaries, which have such things as up-armoring kits for vehicles and universal hard-points on combat aircraft.
19th Apr '16 6:57:37 PM Unityd3v
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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}''.

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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane became the basis for ''{{Transformers}}''.
19th Apr '16 6:56:59 PM Unityd3v
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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}.

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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}.''{{Transformers}}''.
19th Apr '16 6:55:45 PM Unityd3v
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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}.

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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}', ''{{Robotech}}'', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}.
19th Apr '16 6:54:59 PM Unityd3v
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** While not the UrExample of this trope, ''Macross'' may be responsible for popularizing it, not just because it was brought over to the west as part of ''{{Robotech}}', but also because the success of Takatoku's Macross toy line led to Takara releasing their Diaclone line which becane the basis for ''{{Transformers}}.
13th Apr '16 11:38:33 PM LovePsychothefirst
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** The original ''Macross'' transformed into a humanoid configuration due to losing a lot of its power conduits during the space fold disaster: the human shape was them taking advantage of the modular nature of the ship to connect the remaining conduits to fire the [[WaveMotionGun Macross Cannon]]. That it looked human-shaped when this happened was apparently coincidental. Later ''Macross'' and ''New Macross'' class vessels keep the transformation because... uh, well, they never really say. RuleOfCool, perhaps.

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** The original ''Macross'' transformed into a humanoid configuration due to losing a lot of its power conduits during the space fold disaster: the human shape was them taking advantage of the modular nature of the ship to connect the remaining conduits to fire the [[WaveMotionGun Macross Cannon]]. That it looked human-shaped when this happened was apparently coincidental. Later ''Macross'' and ''New Macross'' class vessels keep the transformation because... uh, well, they never really say. RuleOfCool, perhaps. Or the [[RammingAlwaysWorks Macross]] [[MegatonPunch Attack]] that was pioneered originally as the ''Daedalus Attack'' as a desperate move in the original series. It ''does'' work.
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