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8th Oct '16 2:44:23 PM Dravencour
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** Another tragic mistake happened several missions before The Gate, when Walker made the decision to push further into Dubai to [[spoiler:contact the CIA upon learning that the 33rd Infantry has gone rogue]], instead of requesting evac and getting himself and his team the hell out of there as someone doing recon is supposed to do. This leads to Walker [[spoiler:leading his team into what he and they know is a trap to rescue a CIA agent who is being tortured, and ultimately leads to him falling off a skyscraper (symbolizing his eventual downfall)]]. The result is that Walker and his team cannot safely leave Dubai beyond this point, setting the stage for the subsequent bad decisions (including the white phosphorus) that [[spoiler:ultimately doom Walker, his team, and Dubai]]. All because Walker [[HeroicWannabe wanted to be a hero]].

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** Another tragic mistake happened several missions before The Gate, when Walker made the decision to push further into Dubai to [[spoiler:contact the CIA upon learning that the 33rd Infantry has gone rogue]], instead of requesting evac and getting himself and his team the hell out of there as someone doing recon is supposed to do. This leads to Walker [[spoiler:leading his team into what he and they know is a trap to rescue a CIA agent who is being tortured, and ultimately leads to him falling off a skyscraper (symbolizing his eventual downfall)]]. The result is that Walker and his team cannot safely leave Dubai beyond this point, setting the stage for the subsequent bad decisions (including the white phosphorus) that [[spoiler:ultimately doom Walker, his team, and Dubai]]. All because In order for Walker not to have made that mistake, he would have had to not be Walker -- he made this mistake out of a desire to find his personal hero, Colonel John Konrad, who saved his life long ago, and [[HeroicWannabe wanted out of a desire to be a hero]].hero himself]].
7th Oct '16 9:42:22 PM Dravencour
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': There are many examples of this throughout the series, but arguably one of the most tragic - because it is clearly depicted as a mistake - involves Clara Oswald in "Face the Raven." [[spoiler: Clara has a death sentence intended for a friend transferred to her in the mistaken belief that the episode's antagonist would never harm her. She's wrong and ends up killed as a result (later episodes play the timey-wimey ball on this last point, but the end result remains unchanged).]]

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': There are many examples of this throughout the series, but arguably one of the most tragic - because it is clearly depicted as a mistake - involves Clara Oswald in "Face the Raven." [[spoiler: Clara has a death sentence intended for a friend transferred to her in the mistaken belief that the episode's antagonist antagonist, Ashildr, would never harm her. She's wrong and ends up killed as a result (later episodes play the timey-wimey ball on this last point, but the end result remains unchanged).]]
7th Oct '16 9:40:00 PM Dravencour
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': There are many examples of this throughout the series, but arguably one of the most tragic - because it is clearly depicted as a mistake - involves Clara Oswald in "Face the Raven." [[spoiler: Clara has a death sentence intended for a friend transferred to her in the mistaken belief that the episode's antagonist would never harm her. She's wrong and ends up killed as a result (later episodes play the timey-wimey ball on this last point, but the end result remains unchanged).]]



* ''Series/DoctorWHo'': There are many examples of this throughout the series, but arguably one of the most tragic - because it is clearly depicted as a mistake - involves Clara Oswald in "Face the Raven." [[spoiler: Clara has a death sentence intended for a friend transferred to her in the mistaken belief that the episode's antagonist would never harm her. She's wrong and ends up killed as a result (later episodes play the timey-wimey ball on this last point, but the end result remains unchanged).]]
7th Oct '16 9:24:49 PM Dravencour
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** Another tragic mistake happened several missions before The Gate, when Walker made the decision to push further into Dubai to contact the CIA upon learning that the 33rd Infantry has gone rogue, instead of requesting evac and getting himself and his team the hell out of there as someone doing recon is supposed to do. This leads to Walker leading his team into what he and they know is a trap to rescue a CIA agent who is being tortured, and ultimately leads to him falling off a skyscraper (symbolizing his eventual downfall). The result is that Walker and his team cannot safely leave Dubai beyond this point, setting the stage for the subsequent bad decisions (including the white phosphorus) that ultimately doom Walker, his team, and Dubai. All because Walker [[HeroicWannabe wanted to be a hero]].

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** Another tragic mistake happened several missions before The Gate, when Walker made the decision to push further into Dubai to contact [[spoiler:contact the CIA upon learning that the 33rd Infantry has gone rogue, rogue]], instead of requesting evac and getting himself and his team the hell out of there as someone doing recon is supposed to do. This leads to Walker leading [[spoiler:leading his team into what he and they know is a trap to rescue a CIA agent who is being tortured, and ultimately leads to him falling off a skyscraper (symbolizing his eventual downfall). downfall)]]. The result is that Walker and his team cannot safely leave Dubai beyond this point, setting the stage for the subsequent bad decisions (including the white phosphorus) that ultimately [[spoiler:ultimately doom Walker, his team, and Dubai.Dubai]]. All because Walker [[HeroicWannabe wanted to be a hero]].
7th Oct '16 9:22:33 PM Dravencour
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** Another tragic mistake happened several missions before The Gate, when Walker made the decision to push further into Dubai to contact the CIA upon learning that the 33rd Infantry has gone rogue, instead of requesting evac and getting himself and his team the hell out of there as someone doing recon is supposed to do. This leads to Walker leading his team into what he and they know is a trap to rescue a CIA agent who is being tortured, and ultimately leads to him falling off a skyscraper (symbolizing his eventual downfall). The result is that Walker and his team cannot safely leave Dubai beyond this point, setting the stage for the subsequent bad decisions (including the white phosphorus) that ultimately doom Walker, his team, and Dubai. All because Walker [[HeroicWannabe wanted to be a hero]].
7th Oct '16 7:54:42 PM Dravencour
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* ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}'': Tony Montana makes many mistakes throughout the film, including becoming addicted to his own product, but the point of no return was when he [[spoiler:killed Alejandro Sosa's hitman to prevent the unnecessary murder of innocents]], antagonizing the only person who could have helped him out of his own mess.

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* ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}'': Tony Montana makes many mistakes throughout the film, including [[GettingHighOnTheirOwnSupply becoming addicted to his own product, product]], but the point of no return was when he [[spoiler:killed Alejandro Sosa's hitman to prevent the unnecessary murder of innocents]], antagonizing the only person who could have helped him out of his own mess.
7th Oct '16 7:52:16 PM Dravencour
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** Casca's great mistake just before the Eclipse was telling Guts to leave her and Griffith behind and follow his own dream. Griffith happened to overhear the entire conversation, which drove him off the deep end, causing him to abscond with the wagon, crash in the shallows, and reunite with the Crimson Behelit at the moment when he was most emotionally vulnerable to temptation. Casca's FatalFlaw was the combination of her loyalty toward Griffith, her dutiful and self-sacrificing nature, and the conflict that those first two created with the fact that her true romantic feelings were towards Guts. Even though she was forced to realize how physically disabled Griffith was by his torture, and knew how much Guts' departure had devastated him, she either ignored or failed to see the warning signs of how Griffith's feelings of despair, jealousy, and spite were metastasizing into something dangerous. Griffith had always been the savior from her childhood, and even though she later learned of his human weakness she never could have imagined him turning on her and Guts. When Griffith made an unwanted advance on her while she was changing his bandages--essentially AttemptedRape if not for his physical disability--she was devastated but couldn't admit to herself or to Guts that that's what had just happened. Instead of reacting with anger, she gave Griffith what he wanted least: [[DontYouDarePityMe pity]]. Casca decided to stay with Griffith, but Griffith would always know that she dd it out of pity and would never love him the way that she loved Guts. Worse, she told Guts to leave when she knew that he was the person that Griffith most cared about, because she didn't want Guts to give up his dream for the sake of her and Griffith, and felt intense guilt for not staying at Guts' side like they'd promised as lovers. In order not to have made that mistake, she would have had to not be Casca anymore, since her tragic mistake was something she did out of her noble but flawed sense of self-sacrifice and obligation.

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** Casca's great mistake just before the Eclipse was telling Guts to leave her and Griffith behind and follow his own dream. Griffith happened to overhear the entire conversation, which drove him off the deep end, causing him to abscond with the wagon, crash in the shallows, and reunite with the Crimson Behelit at the moment when he was most emotionally vulnerable to temptation. Casca's FatalFlaw was the combination of her loyalty toward Griffith, her dutiful and self-sacrificing nature, and the conflict that those first two created with the fact that her true romantic feelings were towards Guts. Even though she was forced to realize how physically disabled Griffith was by his torture, and knew how much Guts' departure had devastated him, she either ignored or failed to see the warning signs of how Griffith's feelings of despair, jealousy, and spite were metastasizing into something dangerous. Griffith had always been the savior from her childhood, and even though she later learned of his human weakness she never could have imagined him turning on her and Guts. When Griffith made an unwanted advance on her while she was changing his bandages--essentially AttemptedRape if not for his physical disability--she was devastated but couldn't admit to herself or to Guts that that's what had just happened. Instead of reacting with anger, she gave Griffith what he wanted least: [[DontYouDarePityMe pity]]. Casca decided to stay with Griffith, but Griffith would always know that she dd did it out of pity and would never love him the way that she loved Guts. Worse, she told Guts to leave when she knew that he was the person that Griffith most cared about, because she didn't want Guts to give up his dream for the sake of her and Griffith, and felt intense guilt for not staying at Guts' side like they'd promised as lovers. In order not to have made that mistake, she would have had to not be Casca anymore, since her tragic mistake was something she did out of her noble but flawed sense of self-sacrifice and obligation.
7th Oct '16 7:06:47 PM Dravencour
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In a formal {{Tragedy}}, there is a specific scene where the TragicHero is given a clear choice, and [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade they choose... poorly.]] Often this wrong choice can be blamed on the hero's FatalFlaw, but sometimes they just get screwed over by fate (Classic Greek theater loved to give their tragic heroes dilemmas with [[MortonsFork no correct choice at all]].).

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In a formal {{Tragedy}}, there is a specific scene where the TragicHero is given a clear choice, and [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade they choose... poorly.]] Often this wrong choice can be blamed on the hero's FatalFlaw, but sometimes they just get screwed over by fate (Classic (classic Greek theater loved to give their tragic heroes dilemmas with [[MortonsFork no correct choice at all]].).
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5th Oct '16 9:34:58 PM Aiguille
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** Personified in MonsterClown Hamartia, the sinister jester mascot of ''Twilight Theater's'' [[http://www.poetsofthefall.com/discography/twilight_theater_cover/ album art]] and VillainProtagonist singer of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di7NMssrqsE Daze]]," who finds perverse humour and joy in others' disastrous errors.

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** Personified in MonsterClown Hamartia, the sinister jester mascot of ''Twilight Theater's'' [[http://www.poetsofthefall.com/discography/twilight_theater_cover/ [[http://poetsofthefall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/PotF_-_Twilight_Theater-550x550.jpg album art]] and VillainProtagonist singer of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di7NMssrqsE Daze]]," who finds perverse humour and joy in others' disastrous errors.
5th Oct '16 2:12:02 AM eroock
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Not to be confused with the MoralEventHorizon, although a mistaking of civilians for military personnel will certainly be painted by the enemy as one. Also compare with KarmicDeath, which is reserved for outright villains and tends to be faster-acting.

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Not to be confused with the MoralEventHorizon, although a mistaking of civilians for military personnel will certainly be painted by the enemy as one. Also compare with KarmicDeath, which is reserved for outright villains and tends to be faster-acting.
faster-acting. Compare UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom.
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