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18th May '16 9:36:05 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful Marvel Cinematic Universe, which pretty much invented the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series (especially with its [[Film/TheDarkKnight second installment]]) of all time.
** The DCEU generally struggles with this. For example, the ''Film/SuicideSquad'' will introduce Jared Leto as the Joker and he'll have a hard time living up to Heath Ledger's pretty much iconic interpretation.

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful Marvel Cinematic Universe, which pretty much invented popularized the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series (especially with its [[Film/TheDarkKnight second installment]]) of all time.
** The DCEU generally struggles with this. For example, the * ''Film/SuicideSquad'' will introduce Jared Leto as the Joker and he'll have a hard time living up to Heath Ledger's pretty much iconic interpretation.



* The ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series has struggled in the shadow of its [[EvenBetterSequel second incarnation]] through four sequels, numerous comics and its film release. ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'' is widely regarded as the definitive installment, which tragically influenced its subsequent media by having various elements recur when they were either unwelcome or poorly implemented (Sexy Monster Nurses, Pyramid Head, solipsistic protagonists fighting through suppressed trauma). Even Team Silent's third and fourth game failed to enthrall the wider public as their predecessor did.

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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'':
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The ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series has struggled in the shadow of its [[EvenBetterSequel second incarnation]] through four sequels, numerous comics and its film release. ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'' is widely regarded as the definitive installment, which tragically influenced its subsequent media by having various elements recur when they were either unwelcome or poorly implemented (Sexy Monster Nurses, Pyramid Head, solipsistic protagonists fighting through suppressed trauma). Even Team Silent's third and fourth game failed to enthrall the wider public as their predecessor did.
18th May '16 4:45:33 PM LaptopGuy
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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful Marvel Cinematic Universe, which pretty much invented the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series of all time.

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful Marvel Cinematic Universe, which pretty much invented the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series (especially with its [[Film/TheDarkKnight second installment]]) of all time.
18th May '16 4:29:22 PM nombretomado
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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful MarvelCinematicUniverse, which pretty much invented the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series of all time.

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is facing a double wammy of tough acts. As a film devoted to setting the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, it's following in the footsteps of the mega-successful MarvelCinematicUniverse, Marvel Cinematic Universe, which pretty much invented the concept of a shared cinematic universe for Western audiences. As the first film in this new universe featuring Batman it's also following in the footsteps of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', considered by many to be one of (if not ''the'') greatest superhero movie series of all time.
11th May '16 12:18:38 AM X2X
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* Keeping with the Sentai trend, ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai''. The show isn't without its faults, but the series would have likely been better received had it not been adapted from ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' (a '''very''' well-received ''Sentai'') and following ''Series/PowerRangersRPM'' (considered one of--if not '''the'''--best season that ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' has ever done). Similar things could be said about ''[[Series/PowerRangersWildForce Wild Force]]'' coming behind ''[[Series/PowerRangersTimeForce Time Force]]'', and ''[[Series/PowerRangersTurbo Turbo]]'' never stood a chance after ''[[Series/PowerRangersZeo Zeo]]''. To varying extents, this could be said of ''every'' series set after ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'', which not only managed to WinBackTheCrowd after ''Turbo'''s lukewarm reception, but was the GrandFinale of a StoryArc starting with the original ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' (''in Space'' was originally going to be the last ''Rangers'' season, so it ''needed'' to end with a bang). As all subsequent seasons are ([[ReunionShow mostly]]) self-contained, standalone works with only about 30 episodes to develop character and whatnot, they tend to fall short of a saga that had a ''six'' season buildup and was more or less at the apex of the CerebusRollercoaster by its end.

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* Keeping with the Sentai trend, ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai''. The show ''Franchise/PowerRangers'':
** ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai''
isn't without its faults, but the series would have likely been better received had it not been adapted from ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' (a '''very''' well-received ''Sentai'') and following ''Series/PowerRangersRPM'' (considered one of--if not '''the'''--best season that ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' has ever done). Similar things could be said about ''[[Series/PowerRangersWildForce Wild Force]]'' coming behind ''[[Series/PowerRangersTimeForce Time Force]]'', Force]]'' and ''[[Series/PowerRangersTurbo Turbo]]'' never stood a chance after ''[[Series/PowerRangersZeo Zeo]]''. Zeo]]''.
*** On the subject of ''Wild Force'', though the season's overall quality is debated, it ''is'' commonly agreed to have two of the best [[ReunionShow team-up episodes]] in series history, "Reinforcements from the Future" and "Forever Red." Few, if any, of the subsequent Ranger team-ups, have been able to match them.
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To varying extents, this could be said of ''every'' series set after ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'', which not only managed to WinBackTheCrowd after ''Turbo'''s lukewarm reception, but was the GrandFinale of a StoryArc starting with the original ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' (''in ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers''. (''In Space'' was originally going to be the last ''Rangers'' season, so it ''needed'' to end with a bang). bang.) As all subsequent seasons are ([[ReunionShow mostly]]) self-contained, standalone works with only about 30 episodes to develop character and whatnot, they tend to fall short of a saga that had a ''six'' season buildup and was more or less at the apex of the CerebusRollercoaster by its end.end. It should be noted that ''[[Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy Lost Galaxy]]'', ''in Space''[='s=] immediate successor, gets less of this reaction partially because of its holdovers from the Zordon Era [[note]] Bulk, Professor Phenomenus, Alpha 6, the Astro Megaship, and Karone[[/note]], though its darker tone and famous decision to [[spoiler:kill off the Pink Ranger during the two-part ''[=PRiS=]'' crossover]] also played a role.
9th May '16 6:48:51 AM Manny20444
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' adapted Franchise/SpiderMan and his adventures with a good balance of drama and humor, updated characters and stories for the 21st century while retaining their likable traits, and managed to fit a relatively high amount of depth. Unfortunately, Sony Pictures Television's rights to Spidey expired, which resulted in a premature cancellation, and the rise of a new cartoon: ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan''. Several Marvel fans find that it doesn't take itself very seriously, and the characters don't seem as endearing. The high level of {{Cutaway Gag}}s and running gags in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' can make it unbearable to sit through for viewers wanting more drama and/or characterization.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' adapted is based on the original Franchise/SpiderMan and his adventures stories with a good similar balance of action, drama and humor, it also tends to use material from all eras of the comic's run and other sources such as the film series and the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. The series updated characters and stories for the 21st century while retaining their likable traits, still being very faithful to its characters in the comics, and managed to fit a relatively high amount of depth. Unfortunately, Sony Pictures Television's rights to Spidey expired, which resulted in a premature cancellation, and the rise of a new cartoon: ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan''. Several Marvel fans find that it doesn't take itself very seriously, and the characters don't seem as endearing. The high level of {{Cutaway Gag}}s and running gags in ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' can make it unbearable to sit through for viewers wanting more drama and/or characterization.
3rd May '16 1:44:16 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* Anything ''ComicBook/XForce'' related following Rick Remender's ''Uncanny X-Force''. While the previous run had its fans, it has a very big BrokenBase for being almost a parody of what X-Force is (mutants who kill to protect other mutants). Remender portrayed this and didn’t glorify it, and in fact deconstructed the entire idea of a mutant kill squad, while still allowing for character development. The runs that followed… well, they’re more traditional X-Force runs, and just aren’t considered as good. To put it lighty: ‘’Uncanny X-Force’’ is considered not only the best X-Force run, but also one of the best X-Men comics of all time, while everything that followed is barely remembered.

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* Anything ''ComicBook/XForce'' related following Rick Remender's ''Uncanny X-Force''. While the previous run had its fans, it has a very big BrokenBase for being almost a parody of what X-Force is (mutants who kill to protect other mutants). Remender portrayed this and didn’t glorify it, and in fact deconstructed the entire idea of a mutant kill squad, while still allowing for character development. The runs that followed… followed... well, they’re more traditional X-Force runs, runs (meaning style over substance and grimdark galore), and just aren’t considered as good. To put it lighty: lightly: ‘’Uncanny X-Force’’ is considered not only the best X-Force run, but also one of the best X-Men comics of all time, while everything that followed is barely remembered.
3rd May '16 1:39:40 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* Any ''Daredevil'' run following the '''hugely''' successful Bendis and Brubaker eras. Both were massively successful mega hits and award winners, and the follow-up, Andy Diggle's run, is as a result not looked highly upon. Waid's run gets a pass for being very tonally different than the Bendis and Brubaker runs, but the Soule run that followed got this treatment for not living up to ''all three'' runs, ''as well'' as the hit Netflix series.

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* Any ''Daredevil'' ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'' run following the '''hugely''' successful Bendis and Brubaker eras. Both were massively successful mega hits and award winners, and the follow-up, Andy Diggle's run, is as a result not looked highly upon. Waid's run gets a pass for being very tonally different than the Bendis and Brubaker runs, but the Soule run that followed got this treatment for not living up to ''all three'' runs, ''as well'' as the hit Netflix series.series.
* Anything ''ComicBook/XForce'' related following Rick Remender's ''Uncanny X-Force''. While the previous run had its fans, it has a very big BrokenBase for being almost a parody of what X-Force is (mutants who kill to protect other mutants). Remender portrayed this and didn’t glorify it, and in fact deconstructed the entire idea of a mutant kill squad, while still allowing for character development. The runs that followed… well, they’re more traditional X-Force runs, and just aren’t considered as good. To put it lighty: ‘’Uncanny X-Force’’ is considered not only the best X-Force run, but also one of the best X-Men comics of all time, while everything that followed is barely remembered.
28th Apr '16 7:36:49 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** Any ''Daredevil'' run following the '''hugely''' successful Bendis and Brubaker eras. Both were massively successful mega hits and award winners, and the follow-up, Andy Diggle's run, is as a result not looked highly upon. Waid's run gets a pass for being very tonally different than the Bendis and Brubaker runs, but the Soule run that followed got this treatment for not living up to ''all three'' runs, ''as well'' as the hit Netflix series.

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** * Any ''Daredevil'' run following the '''hugely''' successful Bendis and Brubaker eras. Both were massively successful mega hits and award winners, and the follow-up, Andy Diggle's run, is as a result not looked highly upon. Waid's run gets a pass for being very tonally different than the Bendis and Brubaker runs, but the Soule run that followed got this treatment for not living up to ''all three'' runs, ''as well'' as the hit Netflix series.
28th Apr '16 7:29:55 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** Any ''Daredevil'' run following the '''hugely''' successful Bendis and Brubaker eras. Both were massively successful mega hits and award winners, and the follow-up, Andy Diggle's run, is as a result not looked highly upon. Waid's run gets a pass for being very tonally different than the Bendis and Brubaker runs, but the Soule run that followed got this treatment for not living up to ''all three'' runs, ''as well'' as the hit Netflix series.
27th Apr '16 4:55:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The Season Five finale [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 "The Cutie Re-Mark]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 Parts 1 and 2"]], while by no means horrible, is this towards the Season Four finale [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E25TwilightsKingdomPart1 "Twilight's Kingdom]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E26TwilightsKingdomPart2 Parts 1 and 2"]] due to the fact that the Season Four finale had so much high-octane action, characters, twists, adventure, and stakes that kept building up over Season 4 and before it. "The Cutie Remark" seems much more subdued and anti-climactic in comparison as it lacks most if not all of these traits, with the Mane Five and other important characters being demoted to [[DemotedToExtra background characters]] and Twilight Sparkle being [[SpotlightStealingSquad thrust into the spotlight once again]] being a particular sore spot among viewers. Other aspects like Starlight Glimmer, her backstory, and [[SixthRanger the]] [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore resolution]] only made things tougher for it.

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** The Season Five finale [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 "The Cutie Re-Mark]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 Parts 1 and 2"]], while by no means horrible, is this towards the Season Four finale [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E25TwilightsKingdomPart1 "Twilight's Kingdom]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E26TwilightsKingdomPart2 Parts 1 and 2"]] due to the fact that the Season Four finale had so much high-octane action, characters, twists, adventure, and stakes that kept building up over Season 4 and before it. "The Cutie Remark" Re-Mark" seems much more subdued and anti-climactic in comparison as it lacks most if not all of these traits, with the Mane Five and other important characters being demoted to [[DemotedToExtra background characters]] and Twilight Sparkle being [[SpotlightStealingSquad thrust into the spotlight once again]] being a particular sore spot among viewers. Other aspects like Starlight Glimmer, her backstory, and [[SixthRanger the]] [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore the resolution]] only made things tougher for it.


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** ''Twilight's Kingdom'' also offered the HeelFaceTurn of another villain (Discord) that was viewed as very well done, making Starlight Glimmer's, despite it being a bigger focus, come off as lacking.
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