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7th Jun '18 6:07:16 PM frapagook
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* In ''Anime/ToraDora'', Yasuko tends to talk and act like a child, but often says or does exactly the right thing to make people feel better or understand each other without even realizing it. Could also be an IdiotSavant.
5th May '18 1:16:54 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Also comes to Naruto's aid during the first part of the Chunin Exams. The ninja candidates are given an insanely difficult written test, with the implicit understanding that what's ''really'' [[SecretTestOfCharacter being tested]] are their covert information gathering skills (i.e. being able to cheat on the test without getting caught). However, the way the test is set up is that anyone who lasts the entire testing period without being caught cheating and without too many wrong answers passes automatically. This means that Naruto, who was too dumb to answer the questions ''or'' realize he was supposed to cheat, gets a passing grade despite having a completely blank answer sheet. He didn't get caught cheating five times because he never tried to cheat, and he didn't have any wrong answers because he didn't have any answers at all; [[ExactWords the rules say you start out with a 100% score and lose points for wrong answers, rather than gaining points for right answers]].
** Comes to his aid ''again'' later during the exact same test. This test involves telling the class that there is one final question, and anyone who fails it will lose the chance to ''ever'' become a Chunin, with no option to retest.[[note]]Which is actually a bluff, as the proctor doesn't have such authority, especially over other villages' ninja.[[/note]] You can quit ahead of time, at which point you'll fail and be allowed to retest again at some point in the future. Furthermore, if ''anyone'' in your 3-person cell quits, you automatically flunk with them. ''Everyone'' expected Naruto to quit, because he couldn't even answer one question before now. But, Naruto not only refuses to quit but inspires everyone who was thinking about it to stay as well. It later turns out that this was ''another'' SecretTestOfCharacter, as ninjas are expected to bravely accept missions even when they have no guarantee of success -- or, indeed, when failure is almost assured.

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** Also comes to Naruto's aid during the first part of the Chunin Exams. The ninja candidates are given an insanely difficult written test, with the implicit understanding that what's ''really'' [[SecretTestOfCharacter being tested]] are their covert information gathering skills (i.e. being able to cheat on the test without getting caught). However, the way the test is set up is that anyone who lasts (You get ten questions, the entire testing period without being tenth of which is a LeaveYourQuestTest. For the first nine questions, the proctors are watching like hawks and will fail you if you get caught cheating and without too many enough. Students are told that wrong answers passes automatically. This will also lose them points, but this doesn't actually happen because if you answer the tenth question correctly, you automatically pass.) means that Naruto, who the only thing that will actually get you failed is getting caught cheating. Naruto manages to pass the test ''without doing anything at all'', as he didn't know the answers to the questions, was too dumb enough to answer miss the questions ''or'' realize he implication that the test was really on his cheating skills, and brave enough to pass the SecretTestOfCharacter at the end. Sakura also never realized that she was supposed to cheat, gets a passing grade despite having a completely blank answer sheet. He because she didn't get caught cheating five times because he never tried need to- she was smart enough to cheat, and he didn't have any wrong just work out the answers because he didn't have any answers at all; [[ExactWords the rules say you start out with a 100% score and lose points for wrong answers, rather than gaining points for right answers]].
** Comes to his aid ''again'' later during the exact same test. This test involves telling the class that there is one final question, and anyone who fails it will lose the chance to ''ever'' become a Chunin, with no option to retest.[[note]]Which is actually a bluff, as the proctor doesn't have such authority, especially over other villages' ninja.[[/note]] You can quit ahead of time, at which point you'll fail and be allowed to retest again at some point in the future. Furthermore, if ''anyone'' in your 3-person cell quits, you automatically flunk with them. ''Everyone'' expected Naruto to quit, because he couldn't even answer one question before now. But, Naruto not only refuses to quit but inspires everyone who was thinking about it to stay as well. It later turns out that this was ''another'' SecretTestOfCharacter, as ninjas are expected to bravely accept missions even when they have no guarantee of success -- or, indeed, when failure is almost assured.
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2nd May '18 11:42:51 PM Draconid
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* Historians have often attributed Joan of Arc's military success, not to divine intervention, but due to her lack of knowledge of military tactics. While the English expected the French to continue with their regular pattern, an unprecedented full frontal assault completely caught them off guard. Later in the campaign they had adapted, and she suffered as many major defeats as victories. However if one believes her peers like the Bastard of Dunois or looks at both common tactics and case of supplies, out of her 3 defeats (not counting a retreat order of the King himself), only one can count for the dumb part of this trope due to her ordering a attack while low on supplies and refusing to wait for reinforcements that were already mobilized and on the way. The other 2 defeats were due to the King ordering her, who mainly had experience in using [[MoreDakka cannon]] and [[AttackAttackAttack cavalry]] and main strategies involved breaking inflexible defenses of sieges through [[GlassCannon fear or firepower]], to try and take care of the [[GradualGrinder defensive]].

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* Historians have often attributed Joan of Arc's military success, not to divine intervention, but due to her lack of knowledge of military tactics. While the English expected the French to continue with their regular pattern, an unprecedented full frontal assault completely caught them off guard. Later in the campaign they had adapted, and she suffered as many major defeats as victories. However if one believes her peers like the Bastard of Dunois Orleans or looks at both common tactics and case of supplies, out of her 3 defeats (not counting a retreat order of the King himself), only one can count for the dumb part of this trope due to her ordering a attack while low on supplies and refusing to wait for reinforcements that were already mobilized and on the way. The other 2 defeats were due to the King ordering her, who mainly had experience in using [[MoreDakka cannon]] and [[AttackAttackAttack cavalry]] and main strategies involved breaking inflexible defenses of sieges through [[GlassCannon fear or firepower]], to try and take care of the [[GradualGrinder defensive]].
2nd May '18 11:42:05 PM Draconid
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* Historians have often attributed Joan of Arc's military success, not to divine intervention, but due to her lack of knowledge of military tactics. While the English expected the French to continue with their regular pattern, an unprecedented full frontal assault completely caught them off guard. Later in the campaign they had adapted, and she suffered as many major defeats as victories.

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* Historians have often attributed Joan of Arc's military success, not to divine intervention, but due to her lack of knowledge of military tactics. While the English expected the French to continue with their regular pattern, an unprecedented full frontal assault completely caught them off guard. Later in the campaign they had adapted, and she suffered as many major defeats as victories. However if one believes her peers like the Bastard of Dunois or looks at both common tactics and case of supplies, out of her 3 defeats (not counting a retreat order of the King himself), only one can count for the dumb part of this trope due to her ordering a attack while low on supplies and refusing to wait for reinforcements that were already mobilized and on the way. The other 2 defeats were due to the King ordering her, who mainly had experience in using [[MoreDakka cannon]] and [[AttackAttackAttack cavalry]] and main strategies involved breaking inflexible defenses of sieges through [[GlassCannon fear or firepower]], to try and take care of the [[GradualGrinder defensive]].
27th Apr '18 10:45:04 AM GoblinCipher
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** In systems like ''Dungeons & Dragons'', this is what happens if you have a character with a low Intelligence stat but a high Wisdom stat. They may not be very worldly or bright, but they will see things that everyone else is going to miss. The joke goes that Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit, Wisdom is knowing tomatoes don't belong in a fruit salad. And Charisma is [[AchievementsInIgnorance selling a tomato-based fruit salad.]] It's called SALSA.
25th Mar '18 6:22:18 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* In ''VideoGame/Portal2'', [=GLaDOS=] attempts to [[spoiler: kill Wheatley with a LogicBomb. ("This...sentence...is...false!")[[note]]donthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutit[[/note]] Wheatley, however, is too obtuse to recognize it as a paradox. ("Uh...true. I'll go true. Well, that was easy.") In comparison, the frankenturrets, ''Wheatley's own creations'', a combination of turret guns and '''boxes''', seize up upon hearing the same statement, and they're not supposed to even be fully sentient.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/Portal2'', [=GLaDOS=] attempts to [[spoiler: kill Wheatley with a LogicBomb. ("This...sentence...is...false!")[[note]]donthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutit[[/note]] Wheatley, however, is too obtuse to recognize it as a paradox. ("Uh...true. I'll go true. Well, that was easy.") In comparison, the frankenturrets, ''Wheatley's own creations'', a combination of turret guns and '''boxes''', seize up and start groaning in agony upon hearing the same statement, and they're not supposed to even be fully sentient.]]
19th Mar '18 11:56:51 AM snichols1973
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** In "Homer's Enemy", Frank Grimes, who is frustrated by Homer's dumb luck, attempts to show the power plant the follies of putting a complete idiot in charge of plant safety by holding a "Design Your Own Power Plant" contest meant for elementary school age students. Homer enters a power plant with aerodynamic wings to lower wind resistance and a racing stripe, and even after Grimes tells Homer that the contest was meant for school-age children, Mr. Burns and the plant employees still give him a standing ovation, much to Frank Grimes' chagrin.
10th Mar '18 8:05:50 PM JM1982
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Trying to [[BreakThemByTalking Break Him by Talking]] is a bad idea. He probably won't understand your attempts to undermine his confidence or self-esteem, and will merely tell you to ShutUpHannibal His best counterargument is to make you TalkToTheFist. A KansasCityShuffle won't work against him either because he doesn't pick up on the signals that are supposed to make him react the way you need him to.

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Trying to [[BreakThemByTalking Break Him by Talking]] is a bad idea. He probably won't understand your attempts to undermine his confidence or self-esteem, and or understand why he's supposed to care about what you have to say. His counterargument will be to merely tell you to ShutUpHannibal His best counterargument is to ShutUpHannibal, and make you TalkToTheFist. A KansasCityShuffle won't work against him either because he doesn't pick up on the signals that are supposed to make him react the way you need him to.
22nd Feb '18 8:19:27 AM marcoasalazarm
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Numenera}}'' (and its attached Cypher System), one of the descriptors a character can get is "Scatter-Brained". The disadvantage of getting this descriptor is a strong penalty to logic-based rolls (and the note that the character is plagued with AttentionDeficitOhShiny), but as a bonus the character is pretty much immune to people trying to swindle him.
22nd Feb '18 6:40:57 AM Lloigor
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* Luanne from ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' tops this trope by being too dumb to brainwash when she accidentally joins a cult. Meanwhile, her Aunt, the KnowNothingKnowItAll Peggy, not only encourages her to go back to the cult after she escapes, but falls under their sway almost effortlessly.

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* Luanne from ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' tops this trope by being too dumb to brainwash when she accidentally joins a cult. Meanwhile, her Aunt, aunt, the KnowNothingKnowItAll Peggy, not only encourages her to go back to the cult after she escapes, but falls under their sway almost effortlessly.
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