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Trying to [[BreakThemByTalking Break Him By Talking]] is a bad idea. He probably won't understand your attempts to undermine his confidence or self-esteem, and will merely tell you to ShutUpHannibal His best counterargument is to make you TalkToTheFist.

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Trying to [[BreakThemByTalking Break Him By by Talking]] is a bad idea. He probably won't understand your attempts to undermine his confidence or self-esteem, and will merely tell you to ShutUpHannibal His best counterargument is to make you TalkToTheFist.






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* In ''Manga/BoboboBoboBobo'', Poet's Circle of Memory Destruction doesn't work on Don Patch, 'cause he's ''stupid!''

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* In ''Manga/BoboboBoboBobo'', ''Manga/BoboboboBobobo'', Poet's Circle of Memory Destruction doesn't work on Don Patch, 'cause he's ''stupid!''



* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''''Manga/{{Naruto}}'':



*** Comes to his aid ''again'' later during the exact same test. This test involves telling the class that there is one final question, and anyone who fails it will lose the chance to ''ever'' become a Chunin, with no option to retest.[[note]]Which is actually a bluff, as the proctor doesn't have such authority, especially over other villages' ninja.[[/note]] You can quit ahead of time, at which point you'll fail and be allowed to retest again at some point in the future. Furthermore, if ''anyone'' in your 3-person cell quits, you automatically flunk with them. ''Everyone'' expected Naruto to quit, because he couldn't even answer one question before now. But, Naruto not only refuses to quit but inspires everyone who was thinking about it to stay as well. It later turns out that this was ''another'' SecretTestOfCharacter, as ninjas are expected to bravely accept missions even when they have no guarantee of success--or, indeed, when failure is almost assured.
* The race of Seiren from ''LightNovel/NoGameNoLife'' their could be codifier of this trope. Their stupidity is notorious enough for other race to use their name as an insult, synonymous with idiot. [[spoiler: However special mention goes for their temporary representative Amira who actually deserve her position even more than their Empress, simply because she ''knows'' and ''acknowledges'' she is dumb unlike the rest of her race. Thus she manage to outplay a Dhampir with more brain than her simply because they didn't see she is capable of it.]]
** To quote how they're depicted in this series, Seiren is only know how to sleep, eat, have sex, and play. Majority of them didn't even realize or even understand they're on the verge of extinction.

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*** ** Comes to his aid ''again'' later during the exact same test. This test involves telling the class that there is one final question, and anyone who fails it will lose the chance to ''ever'' become a Chunin, with no option to retest.[[note]]Which is actually a bluff, as the proctor doesn't have such authority, especially over other villages' ninja.[[/note]] You can quit ahead of time, at which point you'll fail and be allowed to retest again at some point in the future. Furthermore, if ''anyone'' in your 3-person cell quits, you automatically flunk with them. ''Everyone'' expected Naruto to quit, because he couldn't even answer one question before now. But, Naruto not only refuses to quit but inspires everyone who was thinking about it to stay as well. It later turns out that this was ''another'' SecretTestOfCharacter, as ninjas are expected to bravely accept missions even when they have no guarantee of success--or, success -- or, indeed, when failure is almost assured.
* The race of Seiren from ''LightNovel/NoGameNoLife'' their could be codifier of this trope. Their stupidity is notorious enough for other race to use their name as an insult, synonymous with idiot. [[spoiler: However [[spoiler:However, special mention goes for their temporary representative Amira who actually deserve her position even more than their Empress, simply because she ''knows'' and ''acknowledges'' she is dumb unlike the rest of her race. Thus she manage to outplay a Dhampir with more brain than her simply because they didn't see she is her capable of it.]]
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]] To quote how they're depicted in this series, Seiren is only know how to sleep, eat, have sex, and play. Majority of them didn't don't even realize or even understand they're on the verge of extinction.



* In ''Manga/{{Eyeshield 21}}'', Riku of the Seibu Wild Gunmen realizes, to his horror, that Rikiya Gaoh of the Hakushu Dinosaurs is too single-minded to fall for his feint, on top of being too big and strong to have to worry about it.
** Although Gaoh isn't dumb at all- he's just [[AttackAttackAttack too unsubtle, blunt and single-minded to be tricked]].
* Yasuri Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' isn't exactly dumb -- but he has NoSocialSkills, with his only human interaction being his father and his sister until Togame came along and the series started. As such, he is barely able to distinguish between people, and when a ninja used an impressive technique to impersonate Togame, Shichika immediately punched him even when he didn't know who it was yet.

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* In ''Manga/{{Eyeshield 21}}'', ''Manga/Eyeshield21'', Riku of the Seibu Wild Gunmen realizes, to his horror, that Rikiya Gaoh of the Hakushu Dinosaurs is too single-minded to fall for his feint, on top of being too big and strong to have to worry about it.
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it. Although Gaoh isn't dumb at all- all -- he's just [[AttackAttackAttack too unsubtle, blunt and single-minded to be tricked]].
* ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'':
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Yasuri Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' isn't exactly dumb -- but he has NoSocialSkills, with his only human interaction being his father and his sister until Togame came along and the series started. As such, he is barely able to distinguish between people, and when a ninja used an impressive technique to impersonate Togame, Shichika immediately punched him even when he didn't know who it was yet.



* Gon Freecss from ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' is too childish and naive to fool. In a game where he and his opponent had to light candles and keep them burning, he was presented with two choices. Pick the long one or pick the short one. His friends speculate that the long one could be a trap but the short one could ''also'' be a trap. He picks the long one because it would ''obviously'' burn longer. However, it turns out that it doesn't burn longer because the candle he picked was special and burned three times as quickly as the shorter one. His opponent eventually reveals to us that he hid several booby-trapped candles under his shirt and would've given Gon a booby-trapped candle no matter which candle he picked.
** And despite all the deceptions and trap-laying, Gon realizes that his booby-trapped candle is burning so fiercely that there's no way it could be extinguished short of running out of wick. He then puts it down and uses his superior speed to move in and blow out the enemy's candle himself.

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* Gon Freecss from ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' is too childish and naive to fool. In a game where he and his opponent had to light candles and keep them burning, he was presented with two choices. Pick the long one or pick the short one. His friends speculate that the long one could be a trap but the short one could ''also'' be a trap. He picks the long one because it would ''obviously'' burn longer. However, it turns out that it doesn't burn longer because the candle he picked was special and burned three times as quickly as the shorter one. His opponent eventually reveals to us that he hid several booby-trapped candles under his shirt and would've given Gon a booby-trapped candle no matter which candle he picked.
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picked. And despite all the deceptions and trap-laying, Gon realizes that his booby-trapped candle is burning so fiercely that there's no way it could be extinguished short of running out of wick. He then puts it down and uses his superior speed to move in and blow out the enemy's candle himself.



* Tomo proves to be this in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'' - amusingly enough, [[CloudCuckooLander Osaka]] of all people is the one to run afoul of it. In an attempt to be called "Ayumu Kasuga" instead of "Osaka," she tries telling Tomo that she didn't live in Osaka for the most part, and lists several other locations she's lived. Tomo, being too stupid to remember these other places, just sticks with "Osaka" because she ''can'' remember it. If she looked at a map, though, she could just as easily point out that all of the other locations are just suburbs of Osaka.
* Nozomi Yumehara of ''Anime/YesPrettyCure5'' is a ditzy girl who stumbled onto the CallToAdventure due to her AttentionDeficitOohShiny Yet, in ''Anime/PrettyCureAllStars New Stage 3'', she's the first one to realize that she's trapped in a dream world and ultimately rejects it. Then again [[MeaningfulName her Cure identity IS "Cure Dream"]].
** The funny thing about it and how it fits the trope is because Nozomi is BookDumb, yet in her dream, she magically writes down the answers of the subject she is teaching, despite actually not knowing said answer. That is the moment she realizes that what she is experiencing is a dream. Because as of the way she is now, ''she is too dumb to be a teacher in the first place''.

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* Tomo proves to be this in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'' - -- amusingly enough, [[CloudCuckooLander Osaka]] of all people is the one to run afoul of it. In an attempt to be called "Ayumu Kasuga" instead of "Osaka," she tries telling Tomo that she didn't live in Osaka for the most part, and lists several other locations she's lived. Tomo, being too stupid to remember these other places, just sticks with "Osaka" because she ''can'' remember it. If she looked at a map, though, she could just as easily point out that all of the other locations are just suburbs of Osaka.
* Nozomi Yumehara of ''Anime/YesPrettyCure5'' is a ditzy girl who stumbled onto the CallToAdventure due to her AttentionDeficitOohShiny Yet, in ''Anime/PrettyCureAllStars New Stage 3'', she's the first one to realize that she's trapped in a dream world and ultimately rejects it. Then again [[MeaningfulName her Cure identity IS "Cure Dream"]].
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Dream"]]. The funny thing about it and how it fits the trope is because Nozomi is BookDumb, yet in her dream, she magically writes down the answers of the subject she is teaching, despite actually not knowing said answer. That is the moment she realizes that what she is experiencing is a dream. Because as of the way she is now, ''she is too dumb to be a teacher in the first place''.



* In {{Poker}}, there's the saying "Never bluff a monkey." While experienced players will fold if they think their hand isn't strong enough to call a high bet, a beginner will call almost any bet with a hand he likes, even if this hand is just strong enough to beat a bluff, if nothing else.
* In ''MagicTheGathering,'' a player keeping two Islands untapped implies that they have a Counterspell in their hand. Similarly, a player tapping all of their Forests except one implies that they are holding a Giant Growth. Sometimes, players will attempt to ''bluff'' their opponents by keeping those lands untapped even when they don't have the necessary cards in hand. This tactic works best against intermediate players, because beginners don't yet know enough about the game to know what two untapped Islands or one untapped Forest signifies, and expert players are usually able to see through their opponents' bluffs. Many a ''Magic : The Gathering'' player has seen a bluff fail completely because they didn't realize that their opponents were, ironically, ''too inexperienced'' to fall for it.

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* In {{Poker}}, TabletopGame/{{Poker}}, there's the saying "Never bluff a monkey." While experienced players will fold if they think their hand isn't strong enough to call a high bet, a beginner will call almost any bet with a hand he likes, even if this hand is just strong enough to beat a bluff, if nothing else.
* In ''MagicTheGathering,'' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering,'' a player keeping two Islands untapped implies that they have a Counterspell in their hand. Similarly, a player tapping all of their Forests except one implies that they are holding a Giant Growth. Sometimes, players will attempt to ''bluff'' their opponents by keeping those lands untapped even when they don't have the necessary cards in hand. This tactic works best against intermediate players, because beginners don't yet know enough about the game to know what two untapped Islands or one untapped Forest signifies, and expert players are usually able to see through their opponents' bluffs. Many a ''Magic : The Gathering'' player has seen a bluff fail completely because they didn't realize that their opponents were, ironically, ''too inexperienced'' to fall for it.



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* ComicBook/GrooTheWanderer has had his bacon saved by this on several occasions. In ''The Life of Groo,'' a comic special that covered his early years and first adventure, he was [[spoiler:facing an evil sorcerer-king who had imprisoned his parents; the sorcerer-king tried to read Groo's mind, only to recoil in horror, screaming "There is nothing to read!" Since this same sorcerer had been the one to make Groo mindless through a curse on his father, this was poetic justice.]]
** And who could forget his immortal line "Trying to fool Groo is like trying to freeze Ice!"

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* ComicBook/GrooTheWanderer has had his bacon saved by this on several occasions. In ''The Life of Groo,'' a comic special that covered his early years and first adventure, he was [[spoiler:facing an evil sorcerer-king who had imprisoned his parents; the sorcerer-king tried to read Groo's mind, only to recoil in horror, screaming "There is nothing to read!" Since this same sorcerer had been the one to make Groo mindless through a curse on his father, this was poetic justice.]]
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]] And who could forget his immortal line "Trying to fool Groo is like trying to freeze Ice!"Ice!"
* In ''ComicBook/WildCATs'', Tao (the Tactical Augmented Organism) is the ultimate manipulator, capable of bending anyone to his will with time. However, when he tries his tricks on Ladytron, they simply don't work. She spells it out for him: He can influence the way rational people think, but she's a violent, stupid criminal -- ''anything'' but rational. It's then immediately [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] when he switches tactics and uses effective ''emotional'' manipulation on her just long enough to take her out. Tao gets [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Hoisted by His Own Petard]] in this fashion again in an issue of ''ComicBook/Gen13'', when he is able to manipulate all of the kids (''and'' Helspont), but not [[DumbJock Grunge]].
* In the ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse''. The extremely dimwitted Sunder is the only member of Forge's resistance trope to realize the "new guy" is actually the horseman Mr. Sinister.
* Dumb Bunny of ''ComicBook/TheInferiorFive''. "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid!"
* Justified in ''ComicBook/BigTroubleInLittleChina'', this is the reason why only Jack can face the Seven-Faced Widow. Anyone more knowledgeable in Chinese mythology would have heard all the stories about her vast prophetic powers, they would be too afraid of her to call her bluffs, and would fall into her mind games and be driven mad. Since Jack only knows what he's seen, he quickly realizes she's full of crap and absconds with the {{MacGuffin}}s she's holding in short order.
* Goofy. Most famously shown in a story by Creator/FloydGottfredson, where he remained immune from being hypnothized when everyone else fell for the trick (the VillainOfTheWeek was a hypnothizer, playing his tricks on everyone, including Mickey. Goofy, on the other hand, lived up to this trope, naturally).
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* In ''ComicBook/WildCATs'', Tao (the Tactical Augmented Organism) is the ultimate manipulator, capable of bending anyone to his will with time. However, when he tries his tricks on Ladytron, they simply don't work. She spells it out for him: He can influence the way rational people think, but she's a violent, stupid criminal -- ''anything'' but rational.
** It's then immediately [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] when he switches tactics and uses effective ''emotional'' manipulation on her just long enough to take her out.
** Tao gets [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Hoisted By His Own Petard]] in this fashion again in an issue of ''ComicBook/{{Gen13}}'', when he is able to manipulate all of the kids (''and'' Helspont), but not [[DumbJock Grunge]].
* In the ''ComicBook/{{Age of Apocalypse}}''. The extremely dimwitted Sunder is the only member of Forge's resistance trope to realize the "new guy" is actually the horseman Mr. Sinister.
* Dumb Bunny of TheInferiorFive. "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid!"
* Justified in ''ComicBook/BigTroubleInLittleChina'', this is the reason why only Jack can face the Seven-Faced Widow. Anyone more knowledgeable in Chinese mythology would have heard all the stories about her vast prophetic powers, they would be too afraid of her to call her bluffs, and would fall into her mind games and be driven mad. Since Jack only knows what he's seen, he quickly realizes she's full of crap and absconds with the {{MacGuffin}}s she's holding in short order.
* Goofy. Most famously shown in a story by Creator/FloydGottfredson, where he remained immune from being hypnothized when everyone else fell for the trick (the VillainOfTheWeek was a hypnothizer, playing his tricks on everyone, including Mickey. Goofy, on the other hand, lived up to this trope, naturally).



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* In one ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fan fiction, Ukyo tries to keep Ryoga from a certain location by giving him a map. Of a different city. However, Ryoga's NoSenseOfDirection is so bad that the inaccurate map actually helps him get to where he wants to go, to Ukyo's bewildered confusion.

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* In one ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fan fiction, Ukyo Ukyō tries to keep Ryoga Ryōga from a certain location by giving him a map. Of a different city. However, Ryoga's Ryōga's NoSenseOfDirection is so bad that the inaccurate map actually helps him get to where he wants to go, to Ukyo's Ukyō's bewildered confusion.



* ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'': Brer Rabbit uses reverse psychology (also known as BriarPatching) to trick [[BigBad Brer Fox]] into increasingly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath elaborate]] murder [[FlayingAlive methods]] until he decides to do what Brer Rabbit wants him to. Brer Bear is against it and wishes to just "knock his head clean off''. While Brer Bear is too dumb to even realise what the Rabbit tries to do, his simple thinking also makes him immune to the trick, while the [[StupidEvil Fox]] who is far from the sharpest tool himself falls into it.

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* ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'': Brer Rabbit uses reverse psychology (also known as BriarPatching) to trick [[BigBad Brer Fox]] into increasingly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath elaborate]] murder [[FlayingAlive methods]] until he decides to do what Brer Rabbit wants him to. Brer Bear is against it and wishes to just "knock his head clean off''. off". While Brer Bear is too dumb to even realise realize what the Rabbit tries to do, his simple thinking also makes him immune to the trick, while the [[StupidEvil Fox]] Fox]], who is far from the sharpest tool himself himself, falls into it.



* In ''Film/TheAdventuresOfRockyAndBullwinkle'', Bullwinkle is immune to [[BigBad Fearless Leader's]] MindControl television broadcast because he's too stupid to be affected by it.






* In ''[[Film/RockyAndBullwinkle Rocky and Bullwinkle]]'', Bullwinkle is immune to [[BigBad Fearless Leader's]] MindControl television broadcast because he's too stupid to be affected by it.
* In baseball {{tearjerker}} ''Bang The Drum Slowly'', Creator/RobertDeNiro's character is described as "too dumb to play a joke on." This prevents him from being part of tegwar, a [[{{Calvinball}} card game with ever-changing rules]] which the ballplayers use to scam money from passersby.

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* In ''[[Film/RockyAndBullwinkle Rocky and Bullwinkle]]'', Bullwinkle is immune to [[BigBad Fearless Leader's]] MindControl television broadcast because he's too stupid to be affected by it.
* In baseball {{tearjerker}} ''Bang The the Drum Slowly'', Creator/RobertDeNiro's character is described as "too dumb to play a joke on." This prevents him from being part of tegwar, a [[{{Calvinball}} card game with ever-changing rules]] which the ballplayers use to scam money from passersby.



* ''Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'': Working class {{Muggle}} Jacob Kowalski doesn't question or argue much when he stumbles into the Wizarding world and all the odd stuff he encounters, bluntly telling Newt "I ain't got the brains to make this up!"

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* ''Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'': Working class Working-class {{Muggle}} Jacob Kowalski doesn't question or argue much when he stumbles into the Wizarding world and all the odd stuff he encounters, bluntly telling Newt "I ain't got the brains to make this up!"



* This is essentially the premise of the show ''{{Series/Eureka}}''. Jack Carter is a regular guy [[SurroundedBySmartPeople surrounded by supergeniuses]], some of them a little evil. However, even when the bad guys have the entire town fooled, Carter always spots the detail that they missed. Carter also likes to apply common sense solutions to uncommon problems. And he isn't afraid of using SCIENCE! to get it done.

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* This is essentially the premise of the show ''{{Series/Eureka}}''.''Series/{{Eureka}}''. Jack Carter is a regular guy [[SurroundedBySmartPeople surrounded by supergeniuses]], some of them a little evil. However, even when the bad guys have the entire town fooled, Carter always spots the detail that they missed. Carter also likes to apply common sense solutions to uncommon problems. And he isn't afraid of using SCIENCE! to get it done.



** In "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The Day of the Doctor]]," [[TheNthDoctor three incarnations of the Doctor]] devise a way to open a lock using a MyFutureSelfAndMe setup. The [[Creator/JohnHurt War Doctor]] (the incarnation between [[Creator/PaulMcGann Eight]] and [[Creator/ChristopherEccleston Nine]]) records the information in his sonic screwdriver, which decodes the lock over the centuries between the Doctor's incarnations so that [[Creator/MattSmith Eleven]] can open the lock with the data the screwdriver has already figured out by the time he meets his past selves...while Clara (who's not unintelligent by any means, but merely isn't ''as'' intelligent as the superhuman Doctor) just decides to open the door, which was unlocked the whole time.
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E9Flatline Flatline]]," the psychic paper, which has fooled everyone except super geniuses, is defeated by Fenton, the supervisor of a community service program. This is possible because he has so little imagination that his brain can't picture anything on the paper.

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** In "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The Day of the Doctor]]," Doctor]]", [[TheNthDoctor three incarnations of the Doctor]] devise a way to open a lock using a MyFutureSelfAndMe setup. The [[Creator/JohnHurt War Doctor]] (the incarnation between [[Creator/PaulMcGann Eight]] and [[Creator/ChristopherEccleston Nine]]) records the information in his sonic screwdriver, which decodes the lock over the centuries between the Doctor's incarnations so that [[Creator/MattSmith Eleven]] can open the lock with the data the screwdriver has already figured out by the time he meets his past selves... while Clara (who's not unintelligent by any means, but merely isn't ''as'' intelligent as the superhuman Doctor) just decides to open the door, which was unlocked the whole time.
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E9Flatline Flatline]]," Flatline]]", the psychic paper, which has fooled everyone except super geniuses, is defeated by Fenton, the supervisor of a community service program. This is possible because he has so little imagination that his brain can't picture anything on the paper.



-->'''Jerry:''' So you're angry that this bizarre carpet cabal made no attempt to abduct you?
-->'''George:''' They could've at least tried!
-->'''Jerry:''' You know, maybe they thought you looked too smart to be brainwashed?
-->'''George:''' Please.
-->'''Jerry:''' Too dumb?

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-->'''Jerry:''' So you're angry that this bizarre carpet cabal made no attempt to abduct you?
-->'''George:'''
you?\\
'''George:'''
They could've at least tried!
-->'''Jerry:'''
tried!\\
'''Jerry:'''
You know, maybe they thought you looked too smart to be brainwashed?
-->'''George:''' Please.
-->'''Jerry:'''
brainwashed?\\
'''George:''' Please.\\
'''Jerry:'''
Too dumb?



* In ''Film/MuppetsMostWanted'' Animal is the only one not fooled by the impostor Constantine's Kermit impression. Apparently it's because he doesn't ''smell'' like Kermit.

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* In ''Film/MuppetsMostWanted'' ''Film/MuppetsMostWanted'', Animal is the only one not fooled by the impostor Constantine's Kermit impression. Apparently it's because he doesn't ''smell'' like Kermit.



* Some compulsion spells in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' have as a condition that the target must have a minimum amount of Intelligence (usually 3) to understand what you're trying to compel them to do. However, that isn't quite this trope because less than that is animal intelligence. It'd be like trying to hypnotize a cat.

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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'':
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Some compulsion spells in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' have as a condition that the target must have a minimum amount of Intelligence (usually 3) to understand what you're trying to compel them to do. However, that isn't quite this trope because less than that is animal intelligence. It'd be like trying to hypnotize a cat.cat.
** Though some other powers will affect only a stricter range of intelligence, sparing those who are either too smart or too stupid. For example, the 2nd Edition psionic devotion "post-hypnotic suggestion" only works on a subject with a score between 7 and 17.



** And, obviously, anything that involves manipulating a creature in a specific way (giving orders, etc) usually requires that it be smart enough to know your language... which can be an issue for perfectly intelligent, say, goblins or giants who simply aren't multilingual and don't get the common language by default.
*** This applies to both mundane social skills and spells; a caster with powerful mind-affecting magic or insanely good social stats can be paralyzed by sharing no languages with a weak-willed creature that should be their plaything.
** Though some other powers will affect only a stricter range of intelligence, sparing those who are either too smart or too stupid. For example, the 2nd Edition psionic devotion "post-hypnotic suggestion" only works on a subject with a score between 7 and 17.
** TabletopGame/{{Planescape}} also has the Clueless - basically the assumption that anyone from the Prime Material Plane is an idiot who doesn't understand how the planes work. There is a running theme in most supplementary materials, however, that point out that this can make primes the most unpredictably dangerous beings to deal with, especially from some worlds (like Krynn) where the lack of planar contact may mean they assume any planar is automatically a demon. There's also the fact that while planar factions engage in ideological struggles, it is the Prime where most of the belief that shaped the plane come from. The player guide in the campaign setting also notes that Clueless make popular mercenaries, since they don't have any factional loyalties.
* The Orks of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' fit this trope. They cannot be fooled with a cunning tactical ruse, they won't attack an enemy's command structure or supply chains, they'll simply charge at whatever is right in front of them. This causes no shortage of headaches for many of the setting's centuries-old commanders, who [[DamnYouMuscleMemory can't break out of the deceptive warfare habit]]. It doesn't help that they sometimes mix it up with completely random tactics on a whim, which frequently results in AchievementsInIgnorance or a case of "WhoWouldBeStupidEnough". It makes sense considering the Orks' two deities, Gork and Mork, embody brutal cunning (hits you even harder when you're looking) and cunning brutality (hits you when you're not looking) respectively. It's a tossup which Ork deity's philosophy an Ork considers the best. The most dangerous Orks are the ones who are brutally cunning ''and'' cunningly brutal.

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** And, obviously, anything that involves manipulating a creature in a specific way (giving orders, etc) etc.) usually requires that it be smart enough to know your language... which can be an issue for perfectly intelligent, say, goblins or giants who simply aren't multilingual and don't get the common language by default.
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default. This applies to both mundane social skills and spells; a caster with powerful mind-affecting magic or insanely good social stats can be paralyzed by sharing no languages with a weak-willed creature that should be their plaything.
** Though some other powers will affect only a stricter range of intelligence, sparing those who are either too smart or too stupid. For example, the 2nd Edition psionic devotion "post-hypnotic suggestion" only works on a subject with a score between 7 and 17.
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TabletopGame/{{Planescape}} also has the Clueless - -- basically the assumption that anyone from the Prime Material Plane is an idiot who doesn't understand how the planes work. There is a running theme in most supplementary materials, however, that point out that this can make primes the most unpredictably dangerous beings to deal with, especially from some worlds (like Krynn) where the lack of planar contact may mean they assume any planar is automatically a demon. There's also the fact that while planar factions engage in ideological struggles, it is the Prime where most of the belief that shaped the plane come from. The player guide in the campaign setting also notes that Clueless make popular mercenaries, since they don't have any factional loyalties.
** In systems like ''Dungeons & Dragons'', this is what happens if you have a character with a low Intelligence stat but a high Wisdom stat. They may not be very worldly or bright, but they will see things that everyone else is going to miss. The joke goes that Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit, Wisdom is knowing tomatoes don't belong in a fruit salad. And Charisma is [[AchievementsInIgnorance selling a tomato-based fruit salad.]] It's called SALSA.
* The Orks of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' fit this trope. They cannot be fooled with a cunning tactical ruse, they won't attack an enemy's command structure or supply chains, they'll simply charge at whatever is right in front of them. This causes no shortage of headaches for many of the setting's centuries-old commanders, who [[DamnYouMuscleMemory can't break out of the deceptive warfare habit]]. It doesn't help that they sometimes mix it up with completely random tactics on a whim, which frequently results in AchievementsInIgnorance or a case of "WhoWouldBeStupidEnough". It makes sense considering the Orks' two deities, Gork and Mork, embody brutal cunning (hits you even harder when you're looking) and cunning brutality (hits you when you're not looking) respectively. It's a tossup which Ork deity's philosophy an Ork considers the best. The most dangerous Orks are the ones who are brutally cunning ''and'' cunningly brutal.



* In systems like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', this is what happens if you have a character with a low Intelligence stat but a high Wisdom stat. They may not be very worldly or bright, but they will see things that everyone else is going to miss. The joke goes that Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit, wisdom is knowing tomatoes don't belong in a fruit salad.
** And Charisma is [[AchievementsInIgnorance selling a tomato-based fruit salad.]] It's called SALSA.



* Beat from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' is like this. He doesn't get offended when people make fun of him... because he's too stupid to realize he's being made fun of.
-->'''Konishi:''' No analysis could ever plumb the depths of your fatuity.\\

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* ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'':
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Beat from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' is like this. He doesn't get offended when people make fun of him... because he's too stupid to realize he's being made fun of.
-->'''Konishi:''' --->'''Konishi:''' No analysis could ever plumb the depths of your fatuity.\\



** [[spoiler:He's also the SpannerInTheWorks that causes Kitanji's careful and perfectly laid plans to fall apart, right when Neku seems to be doomed.]]

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** [[spoiler:He's He's also the SpannerInTheWorks that causes Kitanji's [[spoiler:Kitanji's careful and perfectly laid plans to fall apart, right when Neku seems to be doomed.]]



* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII: Shadows of Amn'', your party encounters a con man who [[LandmarkSale attempts to sell him a planar sphere that's just materialized spontaneously in the Slums]]. While the dialogue varies between [=NPCs=], Minsc has one of the best: he declines because [[ConsultingMisterPuppet according to Boo]] (his pet ''miniature giant space hamster''), the sphere is not a good buy, because -- get this -- it's too big to fit in even [[TheBigGuy Minsc's]] pocket.

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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII: Shadows of Amn'', your Amn'':
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party encounters a con man who [[LandmarkSale attempts to sell him a planar sphere that's just materialized spontaneously in the Slums]]. While the dialogue varies between [=NPCs=], Minsc has one of the best: he declines because [[ConsultingMisterPuppet according to Boo]] (his pet ''miniature giant space hamster''), the sphere is not a good buy, because -- get this -- it's too big to fit in even [[TheBigGuy Minsc's]] pocket.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'', [=GLaDOS=] attempts to [[spoiler: kill Wheatley with a LogicBomb. ("This...sentence...is...false!")[[note]]donthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutit[[/note]] Wheatley, however, is too obtuse to recognize it as a paradox ("Uh...true. I'll go true. Well, that was easy"). In comparison, the frankenturrets, ''Wheatley's own creations'', a combination of turret guns and '''boxes''', seize up upon hearing the same statement, and they're not supposed to even be fully sentient.]]
* In ''VideoGame/OrcsMustDie'', the Apprentice is the only war-mage left because he was the only one too stupid to realize how hopeless the conflict really is and too obtuse to give in to the Sorceress' offers. It's a bad thing that he becomes wiser as the game progresses, because with wisdom comes the realization that he and the rest of the world is pretty much doomed.
** He's so stupid that he's the only one to come up with the one guaranteed way to stop the Orcs. [[spoiler: Just close the gates that supply the magic.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'', ''VideoGame/Portal2'', [=GLaDOS=] attempts to [[spoiler: kill Wheatley with a LogicBomb. ("This...sentence...is...false!")[[note]]donthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutitdonthinkaboutit[[/note]] Wheatley, however, is too obtuse to recognize it as a paradox paradox. ("Uh...true. I'll go true. Well, that was easy"). easy.") In comparison, the frankenturrets, ''Wheatley's own creations'', a combination of turret guns and '''boxes''', seize up upon hearing the same statement, and they're not supposed to even be fully sentient.]]
* In ''VideoGame/OrcsMustDie'', the Apprentice is the only war-mage left because he was the only one too stupid to realize how hopeless the conflict really is and too obtuse to give in to the Sorceress' offers. It's a bad thing that he becomes wiser as the game progresses, because with wisdom comes the realization that he and the rest of the world is pretty much doomed.
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doomed. He's so stupid that he's the only one to come up with the one guaranteed way to stop the Orcs. [[spoiler: Just [[spoiler:Just close the gates that supply the magic.]]



* Goofy falls under this in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. Upon encountering Disney/{{Mulan}} for the first time, it takes him a bit before he announces, "Oh, you're pretending to be a boy!" He not only saw through the disguise effortlessly, [[AchievementsInIgnorance it took him extra time to realize it was there in the first place.]]
** It should be noted that of the three protagonists, for some odd reason Goofy is portrayed as the smartest, whether or not this was intentional is unknown, but Goofy seems to be both the Voice of Reason of the group and the one who notices when things are amiss. Given how he was in various other media, this makes his actions in the Kingdom Hearts games rather jarring.

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* Goofy falls under this in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. Upon encountering Disney/{{Mulan}} for the first time, it takes him a bit before he announces, "Oh, you're pretending to be a boy!" He not only saw through the disguise effortlessly, [[AchievementsInIgnorance it took him extra time to realize it was there in the first place.]]
**
]] It should be noted that of the three protagonists, for some odd reason Goofy is portrayed as the smartest, whether or not this was intentional is unknown, but Goofy seems to be both the Voice of Reason of the group and the one who notices when things are amiss. Given how he was in various other media, this makes his actions in the Kingdom Hearts ''Kingdom Hearts'' games rather jarring.



* In ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'', it was revealed that Homestar is the only character that realizes that The Thnikkaman is just Bubs in a PaperThinDisguise... although this doesn't stop him from inexplicably idolizing him like everyone else.

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* In ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'', it was ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'':
** It is
revealed that Homestar is the only character that realizes that The Thnikkaman is just Bubs in a PaperThinDisguise... although this doesn't stop him from inexplicably idolizing him like everyone else.



-->'''Strong Bad:''' It's like, even when we win, he wins.

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-->'''Strong --->'''Strong Bad:''' It's like, even when we win, he wins.



* Elan from ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a somewhat complicated example. He's pretty dumb, but he's also GenreSavvy. This makes trying to predict what he'd do in any given situation a crapshoot, because he could be too dumb to fall for the trick, too dumb to fall for it but decide that, for example, stripping off his armor before the big fight would be a good idea ''anyway'', GenreSavvy enough to see and avoid the trick, or [[ContractualGenreBlindness Contractually Genre Blind]] enough to see the trick but choose to fall for it. The one thing Elan can always be counted on to do [[RuleOfFunny is whatever's funniest.]] To whit, he once broke Nale's brain through his abuse of [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat a trope]], claiming that he knows about it but knows that he ''couldn't'' know about it in order to preserve the trope's existence.
** The LotusEaterMachine plotline is sort of an example of this trope plus CharacterDevelopment. No one else realizes what's going on because they see themselves fulfilling goals that are both plausible and beneficial (stopping the BigBad, getting rich, etc.) Elan's greatest dreams, however, are implausible and ultimately childish (for example, his parents remarrying), and this clues his higher brain functions on to the fact that something is amiss.
* Mega Man and Bass in ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge''.
* The title character in ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob!'' is made of this. Perhaps most notably [[http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20061219.html here.]]
* Bikke of ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' has earned this title. When Sarda tries to taunt the Dark Warriors with the fact they don't know how to actually ''use'' the Orbs, Bikke responds by chucking his at Sarda's head.
** Mind you, this does end up working in his favor. Sarda is so amused by his pluck that he promises YouWillBeSpared. Or at least ''suggests'' it...
** Similar thing occurred when Black Mage tried to use his hypno-vision on Fighter. It didn't work, and Fighter hardly noticed that he attempted it. Fighter comments that trying to hypnotize him won't work because he isn't smart enough to be hypnotized.
** Fighter even says at one point, "It may not be possible to fool me, 'cause of how smart I am." While his teammates discuss how best to fool him. And succeed. With the plan that he was listening to.

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
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Elan from ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a somewhat complicated example. He's pretty dumb, but he's also GenreSavvy. This makes trying to predict what he'd do in any given situation a crapshoot, because he could be too dumb to fall for the trick, too dumb to fall for it but decide that, for example, stripping off his armor before the big fight would be a good idea ''anyway'', GenreSavvy enough to see and avoid the trick, or [[ContractualGenreBlindness Contractually Genre Blind]] enough to see the trick but choose to fall for it. The one thing Elan can always be counted on to do [[RuleOfFunny is whatever's funniest.]] To whit, he once broke Nale's brain through his abuse of [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat a trope]], claiming that he knows about it but knows that he ''couldn't'' know about it in order to preserve the trope's existence.
** The LotusEaterMachine plotline is sort of an example of this trope plus CharacterDevelopment. No one No-one else realizes what's going on because they see themselves fulfilling goals that are both plausible and beneficial (stopping the BigBad, getting rich, etc.) Elan's greatest dreams, however, are implausible and ultimately childish (for example, his parents remarrying), and this clues his higher brain functions on to the fact that something is amiss.
* %%* Mega Man and Bass in ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge''.
* The title character in ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob!'' ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob'' is made of this. Perhaps most notably [[http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20061219.html here.]]
* ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'':
**
Bikke of ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' has earned this title. When Sarda tries to taunt the Dark Warriors with the fact they don't know how to actually ''use'' the Orbs, Bikke responds by chucking his at Sarda's head.
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head. Mind you, this does end up working in his favor. Sarda is so amused by his pluck that he promises YouWillBeSpared. Or at least ''suggests'' it...
** Similar thing occurred when Black Mage tried tries to use his hypno-vision on Fighter. It didn't doesn't work, and Fighter hardly noticed notices that he attempted it. Fighter comments that trying to hypnotize him won't work because he isn't smart enough to be hypnotized.
**
hypnotized. Fighter even says at one point, "It may not be possible to fool me, 'cause of how smart I am." While his teammates discuss how best to fool him. And succeed. With the plan that he was listening to.



'''Minmax:''' Okay. ''*looks up*''\\

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'''Minmax:''' Okay. ''*looks up*''\\''[looks up]''\\



'''Minmax:''' Sorry. ''*looks down*''\\
'''Forgath:''' ''*{{Beat}}*'' We're going to die because he's too dumb to outsmart!

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'''Minmax:''' Sorry. ''*looks down*''\\
''[looks down]''\\
'''Forgath:''' ''*{{Beat}}*'' ''[{{beat}}]'' We're going to die because he's too dumb to outsmart!



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* Creator/{{Seanbaby}} of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-great-occupations-for-horribly-stupid-people/ suggests]] that this is the deliberate hiring policy of the [[OverreactingAirportSecurity TSA]].



* ''RockyAndBullwinkle'': Bullwinkle's own natural stupidity makes him immune to "Goof Gas," an IQ lowering drug. Later in the same arc, Boris and Natasha attempt to use it to attack the US Congress, but the inanity of the politician's political debates cause them to think [[TakeThat someone already "goofed" congress]].
-->'''Conngressman:''' We need to get government out of government!

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* ''RockyAndBullwinkle'': ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'':
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Bullwinkle's own natural stupidity makes him immune to "Goof Gas," an IQ lowering IQ-lowering drug. Later in the same arc, Boris and Natasha attempt to use it to attack the US Congress, but the inanity of the politician's political debates cause them to think [[TakeThat someone already "goofed" congress]].
-->'''Conngressman:''' -->'''Congressman:''' We need to get government out of government!



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':



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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'': In "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker", it's revealed that March the 15th is the day Crocker is more of a SadistTeacher than the rest of the year and tortures all students in specific ways. While wondering what to do with Timmy Turner, he decided against using rhetorical questions (like he did with A.J.) because Turner wasn't intelligent enough to get frustrated by them.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'': ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker", it's revealed that March the 15th is the day Crocker is more of a SadistTeacher than the rest of the year and tortures all students in specific ways. While wondering what to do with Timmy Turner, he decided decides against using rhetorical questions (like he did with A.J.) because Turner wasn't isn't intelligent enough to get frustrated by them.



* {{Seanbaby}} of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-great-occupations-for-horribly-stupid-people/ suggests]] that this is the deliberate hiring policy of the [[OverreactingAirportSecurity TSA]].



14th Mar '17 10:56:42 AM CyberController
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* ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'': Brer Rabbit uses reverse psychology (also known as BriarPatching) to trick [[BigBad Brer Fox]] into increasingly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath elaborate]] murder [[FlayingAlive methods]] until he decides to do what Brer Rabbit wants him to. Brer Bear is against it and wishes to just "knock his head clean off''. While Brer Bear ist too dumb to even realise what the Rabbit tries to do, his simple thinking also makes him immune to the trick, while the [[StupidEvil Fox]] who is far from the sharpest tool himself falls into it.

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* ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'': Brer Rabbit uses reverse psychology (also known as BriarPatching) to trick [[BigBad Brer Fox]] into increasingly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath elaborate]] murder [[FlayingAlive methods]] until he decides to do what Brer Rabbit wants him to. Brer Bear is against it and wishes to just "knock his head clean off''. While Brer Bear ist is too dumb to even realise what the Rabbit tries to do, his simple thinking also makes him immune to the trick, while the [[StupidEvil Fox]] who is far from the sharpest tool himself falls into it.
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** The funny thing about it and how it fits the trope is because Nozomi is BookDumb, yet in her dream, she magically knows writes down the answers of the subject she is teaching, despite actually not knowing said answer. That is the moment she realizes that what she is experiencing is a dream. Because as of the way she is now, ''she is too dumb to be a teacher in the first place''.

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** The funny thing about it and how it fits the trope is because Nozomi is BookDumb, yet in her dream, she magically knows writes down the answers of the subject she is teaching, despite actually not knowing said answer. That is the moment she realizes that what she is experiencing is a dream. Because as of the way she is now, ''she is too dumb to be a teacher in the first place''.
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** The funny thing about it and how it fits the trope is because Nozomi is BookDumb, yet in her dream, she magically knows writes down the answers of the subject she is teaching, despite actually not knowing said answer. That is the moment she realizes that what she is experiencing is a dream. Because as of the way she is now, ''she is too dumb to be a teacher in the first place''.
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* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': Though the above quote from "Jack-Wabbit and the Beanstalk" isn't an example, the short does have an instance where WesternAnimation/BugsBunny tricks the Giant into a duel at ten paces, counting on the latter's giant steps to take him far away. Instead, the Giant's steps take him ''all the way around the cloud they're on'', putting Bugs right back where he started.

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* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': Though the above quote from "Jack-Wabbit and the Beanstalk" isn't an example, the short does have an instance where WesternAnimation/BugsBunny tricks the Giant into a duel at ten twenty paces, counting on the latter's giant steps to take him far away. Instead, the Giant's steps take him ''all the way around the cloud they're on'', putting Bugs right back where he started.
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* Goofy. Most famously shown in a story by Creator/FloydGottfredson, where he remained immune from being hypnothized when everyone else fell for the trick (the VillainOfTheWeek was a hypnithizer, playing his tricks on everyone, including Mickey. Goofy, on the other hand, lived up to this trope, naturally).

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* Goofy. Most famously shown in a story by Creator/FloydGottfredson, where he remained immune from being hypnothized when everyone else fell for the trick (the VillainOfTheWeek was a hypnithizer, hypnothizer, playing his tricks on everyone, including Mickey. Goofy, on the other hand, lived up to this trope, naturally).
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* Goofy. Most famously shown in a story by Creator/FloydGottfredson, where he remained immune from being hypnothized when everyone else fell for the trick (the VillainOfTheWeek was a hypnithizer, playing his tricks on everyone, including Mickey. Goofy, on the other hand, lived up to this trope, naturally).
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** Also comes to Naruto's aid during the first part of the Chunin Exams. The ninja candidates are given an insanely difficult written test, with the implicit understanding that what's ''really'' [[SecretTestOfCharacter being tested]] are their covert information gathering skills (i.e. being able to cheat on the test without getting caught). However, the way the test is set up is that anyone who lasts the entire testing period without being caught cheating and without too many wrong answers passes automatically. This means that Naruto, who was too dumb to answer the questions ''or'' realize he was supposed to cheat, gets a passing grade despite having a completely blank answer sheet. He didn't get caught cheating three times because he never tried to cheat, and he didn't have any wrong answers because he didn't have any answers at all; [[ExactWords the rules say you start out with a 100% score and lose points for wrong answers, rather than gaining points for right answers]].

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** Also comes to Naruto's aid during the first part of the Chunin Exams. The ninja candidates are given an insanely difficult written test, with the implicit understanding that what's ''really'' [[SecretTestOfCharacter being tested]] are their covert information gathering skills (i.e. being able to cheat on the test without getting caught). However, the way the test is set up is that anyone who lasts the entire testing period without being caught cheating and without too many wrong answers passes automatically. This means that Naruto, who was too dumb to answer the questions ''or'' realize he was supposed to cheat, gets a passing grade despite having a completely blank answer sheet. He didn't get caught cheating three five times because he never tried to cheat, and he didn't have any wrong answers because he didn't have any answers at all; [[ExactWords the rules say you start out with a 100% score and lose points for wrong answers, rather than gaining points for right answers]].
24th Jan '17 1:51:11 PM MajinAkuma
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* In an early ''Manga/DragonBall'', a ninja tells Goku to close his eyes and count to thirty while he hides under a fake rock. This ''works''... until Goku forgets what comes after seventeen.

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* In an early the Muscle Tower mini-arc of ''Manga/DragonBall'', a ninja Ninja Murasaki tells Goku to close his eyes and count to thirty while he hides under a fake rock. This ''works''... until Goku forgets what comes after seventeen.seventeen, looks behind and sees Murasaki's hiding spot.
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': In one of the ''Decolora Adventure'' episodes, everyone but Satoshi/Ash, Musashi/Jessie and Kojiro/James are hypnotized by crew of Beeheeyem. The reason why the three are unaffected is because they are idiots.
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