History Main / TimeTravelTenseTrouble

19th Dec '16 2:21:31 PM HiddenWindshield
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* A frequent out-of-universe problem when trying to describe events crossing ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', due to the major differences in how the retcon affected different characters and different past events. A few characters were rebooted as completely new characters (Franchise/WonderWoman), some were made so that they had been around before the Crisis, but their personalities and histories suddenly had always been very different from what all previous comics portrayed (Franchise/{{Superman}}), some were erased from history (''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}''), and some had basically the same history and memory that they had had before the Crisis (Franchise/TheFlash, Franchise/GreenLantern). Therefore, there's both the reader's perception of what "Pre-Crisis" and "ComicBook/PostCrisis" means (Pre-Crisis: [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver-]] and UsefulNotes/{{the Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}}, ComicBook/PostCrisis: [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark-]] and Modern Age), and there's the characters' perception of what "Pre Crisis" and "Post Crisis" means (basically: Pre Crisis: Before [[Franchise/TheFlash Barry]] and ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]]'' died, Post Crisis: after Barry and KAra died). This leads to descriptions like "After the Crisis, Batman changed so that he had been dark and brooding both before and after Barry died."\\

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* A frequent out-of-universe problem when trying to describe events crossing ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', due to the major differences in how the retcon affected different characters and different past events. A few characters were rebooted as completely new characters (Franchise/WonderWoman), some were made so that they had been around before the Crisis, but their personalities and histories suddenly had always been very different from what all previous comics portrayed (Franchise/{{Superman}}), some were erased from history (''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}''), and some had basically the same history and memory that they had had before the Crisis (Franchise/TheFlash, Franchise/GreenLantern). Therefore, there's both the reader's perception of what "Pre-Crisis" and "ComicBook/PostCrisis" means (Pre-Crisis: [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver-]] and UsefulNotes/{{the Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}}, ComicBook/PostCrisis: [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark-]] and Modern Age), and there's the characters' perception of what "Pre Crisis" and "Post Crisis" means (basically: Pre Crisis: Before [[Franchise/TheFlash Barry]] and ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]]'' died, Post Crisis: after Barry and KAra Kara died). This leads to descriptions like "After the Crisis, Batman changed so that he had been dark and brooding both before and after Barry died."\\
10th Dec '16 7:32:21 PM ZimFan89
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* During ''Fanfic/{{Facing the Future|Series}}'', Danny runs into this when describing [[spoiler: his bad future self fighting his good future self]].
-->'''Valerie''': (''confused'') Uh, Danny? What are you talking about?
-->(''Danny sighs'')
-->'''Danny''': You know what? I really don't know anymore.
20th Nov '16 8:42:58 PM PatPayne
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* As far as [[WorldWarTwo Imperial Japan]] was concerned, the attack on Pearl Harbor took place on December 8, because it was the morning of December 8 Tokyo time, regardless of the local time at Pearl Harbor.
30th Oct '16 11:08:25 AM nombretomado
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* Averted in one place in ''{{Gurps}} Time-Travel'' by saying that there are two timelines for the adventurer, the time he came from "hometime" and the time he is adventuring in; and [[SanDimasTime Hometime keeps going while the adventurer was adventuring]]. Thus all that is necessary is to distinguish between home past and away past.

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* Averted in one place in ''{{Gurps}} ''TabletopGame/{{Gurps}} Time-Travel'' by saying that there are two timelines for the adventurer, the time he came from "hometime" and the time he is adventuring in; and [[SanDimasTime Hometime keeps going while the adventurer was adventuring]]. Thus all that is necessary is to distinguish between home past and away past.
23rd Oct '16 2:29:56 PM unokkun
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* Two events separated by a space-like spacetime interval (i.e. every observer will note that light from one event cannot reach the position of the other event before the other event occurs) have no consistent ordering. Different observers will disagree about which event occurred first, and one reference frame will observe the events occurring simultaneously.

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* Two In relativity, two events separated by a space-like spacetime interval (i.e. every observer will note that light from one event cannot reach the position of the other event before the other event occurs) have no consistent ordering. Different observers will disagree about which event occurred first, and one reference frame will observe the events occurring simultaneously.
3rd Oct '16 5:41:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* As with the panel games examples in Live—Action Television. TheNewsQuiz lampshades the folly of having a Topical Panel Show being recorded on a Thursday for broadcast on a Friday as one the most anticipatable news events frequently occurs on a Thursday, an election in the UK. Leading to having to predict (Read:bluff) the result to perform gags accordingly.

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* As with the panel games examples in Live—Action Television. TheNewsQuiz ''Radio/TheNewsQuiz'' lampshades the folly of having a Topical Panel Show being recorded on a Thursday for broadcast on a Friday as one the most anticipatable news events frequently occurs on a Thursday, an election in the UK. Leading to having to predict (Read:bluff) the result to perform gags accordingly.
28th Sep '16 1:02:14 AM Morgenthaler
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** A truly [[CrowningMomentOfFunny memorable]] example occurs referencing ''Hitchhiker's Guide'' (the comic in question is indeed titled "Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional"), as Bob, trapped in the future, tries to find out from Prometheus/Protoman how he gets back to the present:

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** A truly [[CrowningMomentOfFunny memorable]] memorable example occurs referencing ''Hitchhiker's Guide'' (the comic in question is indeed titled "Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional"), as Bob, trapped in the future, tries to find out from Prometheus/Protoman how he gets back to the present:
28th Sep '16 1:01:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''IrregularWebcomic'' has one [[http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2130.html here]]. Of course, Nazi scienc-- wait, ''grammar'' sneers at it.

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* ''IrregularWebcomic'' ''Webcomic/IrregularWebcomic'' has one [[http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2130.html here]]. Of course, Nazi scienc-- wait, ''grammar'' sneers at it.



* ''[[WebComic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'':

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* ''[[WebComic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'':''WebComic/EightBitTheater'':
20th Sep '16 8:23:10 PM nombretomado
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* A boss in ''{{Avernum}} 5'' summons two future versions of himself to assist him, and he does his best to keep his grammar consistent when shouting orders to them. He loses track and starts rambling when you kill both future selves and screw up the timeline.

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* A boss in ''{{Avernum}} ''VideoGame/{{Avernum}} 5'' summons two future versions of himself to assist him, and he does his best to keep his grammar consistent when shouting orders to them. He loses track and starts rambling when you kill both future selves and screw up the timeline.
13th Sep '16 6:02:56 AM PizzaJedi81
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** Similarly, ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'', once Kyle Reese tries to sum up something in the past tense, and then attempts to correct with present and future, he goes "Time travel makes my head hurt!".

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** Similarly, ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'', once Kyle Reese tries to sum up something in the past tense, and then attempts to correct with present and future, he goes "Time "[John Connor is] the man our son was... is... will be -- ''Jesus!'' Time travel makes my head hurt!".hurt!"



* From ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'': "[John Connor is] the man our son was... is... will be -- ''Jesus!'' Time travel makes my head hurt!"
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