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17th Jun '17 1:58:02 AM Slothgirl
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* In ''[[http://www.ksarchive.com/viewstory.php?sid=3103&warning=1 Hesitation]]'', Sybok is an arrogant, xenophobic {{Jerkass}} who's filled his household with yes-men and left them to do his job for him (and use all his funds) whilst he spends his time placating his equally-vile consort, but as the eldest son he's King of Vulcan and heir apparent to the Imperial throne. [[spoiler:He's also a subversion - whilst he was always kind of awful, much of his unsuitability actually comes from Ty'Lena's machinations.]]
23rd Mar '17 11:06:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] by the Dutch King William III (r. 1849-1890), who was essentially the rightful heir to the wrong ''throne''. After the 1848 revolutions that occurred across Europe, his father [[KingBobTheNth King William II]], who was fearing for the survival of the dynasty, had reluctantly agreed to a sweeping political reform that massively curtailed the powers of the monarch in favor of the elected body of representatives in Parliament. William III was strongly opposed to this, since he wanted to rule as an absolute monarch like his grandfather [[KingBobTheNth King William I]]. It took many years to convince him to even accept his role, kicking and screaming all the way, but he proved a notoriously prickly person who flouted protocol all the time, earning him the nickname "King Gorilla".
7th Mar '17 1:09:41 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Renly]] invokes this trope when trying to convince [[spoiler: [[HonorBeforeReason Ned Stark]] to support his coup for the throne]], pointing out that he's the most qualified heir for the job.
** Viserys Targaryen also proves to be that: After his father was killed for being TheCaligula, he became obsessed with getting his crown back at any cost.

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[[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Renly]] invokes this trope when trying to convince [[spoiler: [[HonorBeforeReason Ned Stark]] to support his coup for the throne]], pointing out that he's the most qualified heir for the job.
** Viserys Targaryen also proves to be that: After his father was killed for being TheCaligula, he became obsessed with getting his crown back from the traitor and usurper Robert Baratheon at any cost.cost, proving not much better than his father, so most people were happy to accept Robert as king.


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** This trope is the entire motivation for Ned's actions regarding an attempted coup, as shortly prior to King Robert's arranged death, he discovers the king's three children were born of the queen's brother, and slightly modified Robert's last will and testament from "to my son Joffrey" to "the legitimate heir". Being that King Robert had no legitimate children at the time of his death, in Ned's eyes and the eyes of the law, the throne should pass to Robert's younger brother Stannis instead.
17th Feb '17 2:45:31 PM margdean56
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** Considering the disastrous result-a 19-year CivilWar so bad it was called "the Anarchy"-even people at the time thought they would have been better off putting up with a woman for a generation. And in the end, Matilda even won after a fashion: her descendants, not Stephen's, ended up with the throne, starting with [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond her son, Henry II]].
** In this case it was really probably more of a no-win situation, since even with the gender issue aside, neither Stephen nor Matilda were particularly nice people, nor did they really possess the temperament to make for particularly good rulers.
* As mentioned above, [[UsefulNotes/RichardIII King Richard III]] cast aspersions as to the qualifications of a young king to rule. Richard's motivation for claiming the throne remain in the dark to this day; was he simply a power-hungry tyrant, or had he simply grown to believe that only he could do the job? We may never know. Richard also cast aspersions on his brother's legitimacy as well as the nephew's, though the Dowager Queen Elizabeth Woodville wasn't popular, so the line of attack against her marriage with Edward IV was carried through more thoroughly. Also, Richard of York (father of Edward IV and Richard III) had earlier made a similar claim because of the incompetence and insanity/catatonic episode of Henry VI.

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** Considering the disastrous result-a result--a 19-year CivilWar so bad it was called "the Anarchy"-even Anarchy"--even people at the time thought they would have been better off putting up with a woman for a generation. And in the end, Matilda even won after a fashion: her descendants, not Stephen's, ended up with the throne, starting with [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond her son, Henry II]].
** In this case it was really probably more of a no-win situation, since even with leaving aside the gender issue aside, issue, neither Stephen nor Matilda were was a particularly nice people, person, nor did they really possess the temperament to make for particularly good rulers.
* As mentioned above, [[UsefulNotes/RichardIII King Richard III]] cast aspersions as to on the qualifications of a young king to rule. Richard's motivation motivations for claiming the throne remain in the dark to this day; was he simply a power-hungry tyrant, or had he simply grown to believe that only he could do the job? We may never know. Richard also cast aspersions on his brother's legitimacy as well as the nephew's, though the Dowager Queen Elizabeth Woodville wasn't popular, so the line of attack against her marriage with Edward IV was carried through more thoroughly. Also, Richard of York (father of Edward IV and Richard III) had earlier made a similar claim because of the incompetence and insanity/catatonic episode of Henry VI.



* This is exactly what happened to King Edward VIII of England. He was always meant to be the king, as the oldest son, and his brother Albert was very much in favour of that particular line of succession.[[note]]On the other hand, their ''father'' George V was ''not'' in favour of it, and explicitly wrote that he hoped that his elder son would ''never marry or have children'' to ensure both Albert and Albert's [[UsefulNotes/HMTheQueen elder daughter Elizabeth]] would have a clear line to the throne.[[/note]] As things would have it, though, Edward VIII was absolutely, positively determined to marry outside of the acceptable social circle, and to a widely-rumored-to-be Nazi sympathizer during the prelude to World War II, no less. Edward's determination to flout the accepted rules and standards of the throne meant that he could not be king, not in the eyes of the Parliament, and not in the eyes of the people. Faced with this pressure, he abdicated his throne to his brother Albert, who reigned as George VI, which caused [[TheKingsSpeech a whole host of problems for Britain's new leader.]]

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* This is exactly what happened to King Edward VIII of England. He was always meant to be the king, as the oldest son, and his brother Albert was very much in favour of that particular line of succession.[[note]]On the other hand, their ''father'' George V was ''not'' in favour of it, and explicitly wrote that he hoped that his elder son would ''never marry or have children'' to ensure both Albert and Albert's [[UsefulNotes/HMTheQueen elder daughter Elizabeth]] would have a clear line to the throne.[[/note]] As things would have it, turned out, though, Edward VIII was absolutely, positively determined to marry outside of the acceptable social circle, and to a widely-rumored-to-be Nazi sympathizer during the prelude to World War II, no less. Edward's determination to flout the accepted rules and standards of the throne meant that he could not be king, not in the eyes of the Parliament, and not in the eyes of the people. Faced with this pressure, he abdicated his throne to his brother Albert, who reigned as George VI, which caused [[TheKingsSpeech a whole host of problems for Britain's new leader.]]



* Tsar Peter III of Russia is often portrayed as an idiot who was allowing the country to go to the crapper. His wife, their union an {{arranged marriage}} when he was younger, was Sophia, a German princess from a poor family, and she was a tad more competent and deposed him. She's better known today as UsefulNotes/CatherineTheGreat. Howver, most of the stories about Peter's madness were made up by Catherine's spin doctors, but the guy still managed to piss off a number of people with his hero-worship of UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat of Prussia and announcing crazy projects like phasing out serfdom. Unfortunately for him, many of these discontents were to be found in the [[PraetorianGuard Life Guards]], which enabled Peter's Tsarina to oust him from power and have him offed. Maybe not an idiot or madman, but probably not a competent, shrewd and decisive ruler (it is speculated that if he had not hesitated to strike at once, he might still have been able to quell Catherine's palace revolution with troops loyal to him). Since Catherine "the Great"[[note]] the title was awarded to her by a legislative commission set up by herself[[/note]] basically sold out the serfs to their landlords, on whose support she depended, there were several peasants' rebellions during her reign. The most serious was led by Yemelian Pugachev, who managed to increase his base by announcing that he was in fact Peter III, miraculously escaped from the forces of the Empress. So even in 1773-1775, over a decade after his death, Peter III was a lot more popular than his consort with a lot of people.
* In 1830, King Charles X of France was overthrown by riots throughout Paris. He declared his 10-year-old grandson Henry to now be King Henry V, with his distant cousin Louis Philippe, the Duke of Orleans as Regent. However, Henry was still too closely linked to Charles for many revolutionaries to handle, so as a compromise, when the Duke of Orleans went over to the French National Assembly in Paris in his role as Regent they proclaimed him to be King instead. The Orleans claim was problematic for the Bourbons since his father, Philippe Egalite, voted for the death of the King UsefulNotes/LouisXVI, his own cousin (and would himself later be executed during the ReignOfTerror).

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* Tsar Peter III of Russia is often portrayed as an idiot who was allowing the country to go to down the crapper. His wife, their union an {{arranged marriage}} when he was younger, was Sophia, a German princess from a poor family, and she was a tad more competent and deposed him. She's better known today as UsefulNotes/CatherineTheGreat. Howver, most Most of the stories about Peter's madness were made up by Catherine's spin doctors, but the guy still managed to piss off a number of people with his hero-worship of UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat of Prussia and announcing crazy projects like phasing out serfdom. Unfortunately for him, many of these discontents were to be found in the [[PraetorianGuard Life Guards]], which enabled Peter's Tsarina to oust him from power and have him offed. Maybe not an idiot or madman, but probably not a competent, shrewd and decisive ruler (it is speculated that if he had not hesitated to strike at once, he might still have been able to quell Catherine's palace revolution with troops loyal to him). Since Catherine "the Great"[[note]] the title was awarded to her by a legislative commission set up by herself[[/note]] basically sold out the serfs to their landlords, on whose support she depended, there were several peasants' rebellions during her reign. The most serious was led by Yemelian Pugachev, who managed to increase his base by announcing that he was in fact Peter III, miraculously escaped from the forces of the Empress. So even in 1773-1775, over a decade after his death, Peter III was a lot more popular than his consort with a lot of people.
* In 1830, King Charles X of France was overthrown by riots throughout Paris. He declared his 10-year-old grandson Henry to now be King Henry V, with his distant cousin Louis Philippe, the Duke of Orleans Orléans, as Regent. However, Henry was still too closely linked to Charles for many revolutionaries to handle, so as a compromise, when the Duke of Orleans Orléans went over to the French National Assembly in Paris in his role as Regent they proclaimed him to be King instead. The Orleans Orléans claim was problematic for the Bourbons since his father, Philippe Egalite, voted for the death of the King UsefulNotes/LouisXVI, his own cousin (and would himself later be executed during the ReignOfTerror).
17th Feb '17 2:33:53 PM margdean56
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* The Haldane Restoration in Katherine Kurtz's Literature/{{Deryni}} novel ''Camber of Culdi''. A younger son of the House of Furstan gets a small force from his father the King of Torenth, gathers other landless younger sons who don't fancy celibacy, and they overthow the House of Haldane in neighbouring Gwynedd. After 80 years, the Festil-Furstan dynasty has degenerated, such that the latest ruler practices murderous tyranny and brother-sister incest. Camber and his family discover the last Haldane in a monastery, remove him from the cloister, get his vows dispensed, marry him to a ward of Camber's, activate psionic/magical powers in him, and help him overthrow the tyrant - and the new King never forgives them for it, leading to the terrible anti-Deryni backlash of the next several books.

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* The Haldane Restoration in Katherine Kurtz's Literature/{{Deryni}} novel ''Camber of Culdi''. A younger son of the House of Furstan gets a small force from his father the King of Torenth, gathers other landless younger sons who don't fancy celibacy, and they overthow the House of Haldane in neighbouring Gwynedd. After 80 years, the Festil-Furstan dynasty has degenerated, such that the latest ruler practices murderous tyranny and brother-sister incest. Camber and his family discover the last Haldane in a monastery, remove him from the cloister, get his vows dispensed, marry him to a ward of Camber's, activate psionic/magical powers in him, and help him overthrow the tyrant - -- and the new King never forgives them for it, leading to the terrible anti-Deryni backlash of the next several books.



** ''Theatre/RichardII'' was also this due to his capricious incompetence, and was eventually deposed by his cousin who would become ''Theatre/HenryIV''.
** Averted in ''Theater/HenryIVPart1,'' and ''Theater/HenryIVPart2,'' Prince Hal (the Prince of Wales) hangs out with lowlifes and is complicit in a robbery later [[spoiler:defeats Henry "Hotspur" Percy who has rebelled against Henry IV in part 1]] In Part 2 he [[spoiler:reconciles with his dying father then arrests his former companions.]]
** Theater/HenryVIPart1'' Charles VII of France retakes his throne from the minor Henry VI with the help of Joan of Arc.
** Theater/HenryVIPart2" Richard, the Duke of York points out that Henry IV's claim was probably illegitimate, believes that he has a stronger claim to the throne, and conspires to rebel against King Henry. His son Edward completes the job in ''Theater/HenryVIPart3"
** 'Theatre/RichardIII'' used for usurping the throne from his nephew Edward V - the latter was a child and so unfit to rule. The real Richard also cast doubt on Edward's legitimacy.

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** ''Theatre/RichardII'' was also this due to his capricious incompetence, and was eventually deposed by his cousin who would become ''Theatre/HenryIV''.
** Averted in ''Theater/HenryIVPart1,'' and ''Theater/HenryIVPart2,'' ''Theater/HenryIVPart2.'' Prince Hal (the Prince of Wales) hangs out with lowlifes and is complicit in a robbery robbery, but later [[spoiler:defeats Henry "Hotspur" Percy who has rebelled against Henry IV in part 1]] 1]]. In Part 2 he [[spoiler:reconciles with his dying father then arrests his former companions.]]
** Theater/HenryVIPart1'' ''Theater/HenryVIPart1'' Charles VII of France retakes his throne from the minor Henry VI with the help of Joan of Arc.
** Theater/HenryVIPart2" ''Theater/HenryVIPart2'' Richard, the Duke of York points out that Henry IV's claim was probably illegitimate, believes that he has a stronger claim to the throne, and conspires to rebel against King Henry. His son Edward completes the job in ''Theater/HenryVIPart3"
''Theater/HenryVIPart3''
** 'Theatre/RichardIII'' ''Theatre/RichardIII'' used this excuse for usurping the throne from his nephew Edward V - -- the latter was a child and so unfit to rule. The real Richard also cast doubt on Edward's legitimacy.
21st Nov '16 10:35:08 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be a good person... but very, ''very'' unfit for such a situation, and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war. [[spoiler:But in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding a "work" that fits him much better than actually being the King]].]]

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** In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne of Daein ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be a good kindhearted person... but very, ''very'' unfit for such a situation, and reigning, plus easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war. [[spoiler:But in a subversion, he isn't Pelleas ''isn't'' really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country Daein winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion. And if Pelleas is alive, he he's said to [[AbdicateTheThrone have willingly leaves leaft the throne to Micaiah and becomes Micaiah]] to become one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding a "work" that fits him much better than actually being the King]].]]
21st Nov '16 10:27:14 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** In [[FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be ''very'' unfit and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war... [[spoiler:but in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding a "work" that fits him much better than actually being the King]].]]

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** In [[FireEmblemTellius [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be a good person... but very, ''very'' unfit for such a situation, and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war... [[spoiler:but war. [[spoiler:But in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding a "work" that fits him much better than actually being the King]].]]
21st Nov '16 10:25:53 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** In [[FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be ''very'' unfit and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war... [[spoiler:but in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion]]. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding which fits him much better]].]]
* It's implied that this trope is the reason [[spoiler: Princess Camilla]] abdicated her claim to the throne in the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': she believed herself to be this compared to [[spoiler: her TeenGenius younger brother Leo.]]

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** In [[FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be ''very'' unfit and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war... [[spoiler:but in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion]]. Begnion. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding which a "work" that fits him much better]].better than actually being the King]].]]
* It's implied that this trope is the reason [[spoiler: Princess Camilla]] abdicated her claim to the throne in the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': she believed herself to be this compared to [[spoiler: her TeenGenius younger brother brother, Prince (now King) Leo.]]
21st Nov '16 10:24:58 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* [[spoiler:Subverted]] in the 10th ''FireEmblem''. After spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne, he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be horribly incompetent, and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war [[spoiler:but he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir never finds out. After Pelleas reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion; she did find out the truth, but her sister had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion]].
* It's implied that this trope is the reason [[spoiler: Camilla]] abdicated her claim to the throne in the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': she believed herself to be this compared to [[spoiler: her brother Leo.]]

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* [[spoiler:Subverted]] in the 10th ''FireEmblem''. After ''Franchise/FireEmblem''
** In [[FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]], after
spending the first chapter getting the "legitimate" heir on the throne, throne ([[spoiler: Pelleas]]), he turns out (which should have been obvious from the start with his HorribleJudgeOfCharacter stats) to be horribly incompetent, ''very'' unfit and easily manipulated for the purpose of creating a world war war... [[spoiler:but in a subversion, he isn't really the real heir in the end, and the "legitimate" heir (Soren) never finds out. After Pelleas either reveals that he's not the legitimate heir or is tragically killed, depending on the path the player takes through the story, the country winds up being run by the person who was actually the legitimate heir of the ''neighboring'' country of Begnion; Begnion, Micaiah; she did find out the truth, but her ChildProdigy little sister Sanaki had been running the place pretty well, and she considered Daein her home more than Begnion]].
Begnion]]. And if Pelleas is alive, he willingly leaves the throne to Micaiah and becomes one of her advisors, [[EarnyourHappyEnding which fits him much better]].]]
* It's implied that this trope is the reason [[spoiler: Princess Camilla]] abdicated her claim to the throne in the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': she believed herself to be this compared to [[spoiler: her TeenGenius younger brother Leo.]]
30th Oct '16 2:12:50 PM nombretomado
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** ''Theatre/RichardII'' was also this due to his capricious incompetence, and was eventually deposed by his cousin who would become ''HenryIV''.

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** ''Theatre/RichardII'' was also this due to his capricious incompetence, and was eventually deposed by his cousin who would become ''HenryIV''.''Theatre/HenryIV''.
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