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23rd Jan '17 12:49:09 AM Luppercus
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* The sentient tomato Zoltan is Dr. Gangreen’s Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/AttackOfTheKillerTomatoes'' as he’s always questioning his plans and his leadership. In the second season Zoltan and his four goons actually dethrone Gangreen and took over the world from him.


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* Mullins in ''WesternAnimation/PeterPanAndThePirates'' mostly as a counterpart to Smee’s SycophanticServant of Captain Hook. Although Starsky has the role sometimes he is less vocal in his questioning of Hook’s plans. Of course Hook is pretty badass in this version (and helps that is voiced by TimCurry) and a very competent villain and his plans are generally very good. Mullins and Starky’s questioning is more related to point out Hook’s futile obsession with Peter Pan and how they waste their lives there when they can be pillaging somewhere else.
22nd Jan '17 11:16:24 AM Prometheus117
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*** Eventually when sufficiently punished and humiliated by Megatron, this Starscream shows he is finally content to have the power of SIC. Unfortunately he still doesn't want to settle for anything less; when he lost this position he attempted to switch sides, just to have allies to side against Megatron. He finally gets his hands on ''Prime's'' equivalent of the [[Anime/TransformersCybertron Cyber Planet Keys]], ''all four of them,'' and... uses them to convince Megatron to let him back in instead of keeping them. He appeared loyal, which didn't prevent fans from suspecting it all of being a ruse. In "Deadlock", his rage upon seeing [[spoiler: Bumblebee kill Megatron indicates that his new loyalty was genuine after all]].

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*** Eventually when sufficiently punished and humiliated by Megatron, this Starscream shows he is finally content to have the power of SIC. Unfortunately he still doesn't want to settle for anything less; when he lost this position he attempted to switch sides, just to have allies to side against Megatron. He finally gets his hands on ''Prime's'' equivalent of the [[Anime/TransformersCybertron Cyber Planet Keys]], ''all four of them,'' and... uses them to convince Megatron to let him back in instead of keeping them.them, mostly because he rightly realized that even with all four keys, there would be nothing stopping the Autobots ''and'' Decepticons from coming for his head and he couldn't rule Cybertron alone. He appeared loyal, which didn't prevent fans from suspecting it all of being a ruse. In "Deadlock", his rage upon seeing [[spoiler: Bumblebee kill Megatron indicates that his new loyalty was genuine after all]].


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** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise2015'', ''Prime's'' sequel series, finally has Starscream [[SubvertedTrope subvert]] this trope entirely, [[spoiler:but not out of loyalty but because he wants to ''[[ItsPersonal kill]]'' Megatron for disbanding the Decepticons, leaving him at the mercy of the Predacons (though it was his own mistakes that led to that encounter), and for all the physical abuse he's suffered throughout the years. Galactic conquest is still on the table, just not directly related to Megatron anymore. He's just having trouble finding out where Megatron went after ''Predacons Rising''.]]
7th Jan '17 7:05:25 PM Nyame
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* ''FanFic/TransformersAnimatedCybertronianGenesis'': The usual suspect, of course. [[spoiler:And this time, Sentinel is along for the ride as well]]!
5th Jan '17 12:16:50 PM Katsuhagi
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', Suu'be Nori'fu is this to Quain'tana, since Suu'be resents Quain for making her own daughter Koil'doarth no longer be the heir. [[CoolOldGuy Rosof]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=346 says]] that if Quain were to let her heir Ariel train under Suu'be Ariel would probably die in an "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident accident]]" and WordOfGod is that Suu'be would try to get rid of Quain if she thought she could get away with it, while on the other hand Quain knows that she can't get rid of Suu'be, leaving them in a state of constantly pulling at each other. Finally reaches a head in Chapter 50, when Suu'be [[TheCoup attempts a coup]] and tries to wipe out Quain's bloodline, ending with Quain herself delivering a NeckSnap to her traitorous Devess.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', Suu'be Nori'fu is this to Quain'tana, since Suu'be resents Quain for making her own daughter Koil'doarth no longer be the heir. [[CoolOldGuy Rosof]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=346 says]] that if Quain were to let her heir Ariel train under Suu'be Ariel would probably die in an "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident accident]]" and WordOfGod is that Suu'be would try to get rid of Quain if she thought she could get away with it, while on the other hand Quain knows that she can't get rid of Suu'be, leaving them in a state of constantly pulling at each other. Finally reaches a head in Chapter 50, when Suu'be [[TheCoup attempts a coup]] and tries to wipe out Quain's bloodline, ending with Quain herself delivering a NeckSnap to her traitorous Devess.Dev'ess.
5th Jan '17 12:12:03 PM Katsuhagi
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', Suu'be Nori'fu is this to Quain'tana, and hints have popped up in the main story, since Suu'be resents Quain for making her own daughter Koil'doarth no longer be the heir. [[CoolOldGuy Rosof]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=346 says]] that if Quain were to let her heir Ariel train under Suu'be Ariel would probably die in an "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident accident]]" and WordOfGod is that Suu'be would try to get rid of Quain if she thought she could get away with it, while on the other hand Quain knows that she can't get rid of Suu'be, leaving them in a state of constantly pulling at each other.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', Suu'be Nori'fu is this to Quain'tana, and hints have popped up in the main story, since Suu'be resents Quain for making her own daughter Koil'doarth no longer be the heir. [[CoolOldGuy Rosof]] [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=346 says]] that if Quain were to let her heir Ariel train under Suu'be Ariel would probably die in an "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident accident]]" and WordOfGod is that Suu'be would try to get rid of Quain if she thought she could get away with it, while on the other hand Quain knows that she can't get rid of Suu'be, leaving them in a state of constantly pulling at each other. Finally reaches a head in Chapter 50, when Suu'be [[TheCoup attempts a coup]] and tries to wipe out Quain's bloodline, ending with Quain herself delivering a NeckSnap to her traitorous Devess.
28th Dec '16 8:03:52 PM VesperLord
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* [[spoiler: Maverick Storm]] in ''Blog/ThePreDespairKids''.
** [[spoiler: He's]] gotten a promotion in the AlternateUniverse [[RecursiveFanfiction spinoff]] ''Blog/AskTheNewHopesPeak'', leading [[spoiler: his]] own faction of the remnants of despair.
21st Dec '16 4:23:40 PM dmcreif
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* ''Series/TheWire'': Stringer Bell fits this trope perfectly, killing D'Angelo behind Avon's back, and taking advantage of Avon's imprisonment to restructure the Barksdale Organization under his own model. His model is smarter and more professional, and ''might'' lead to less violence, but he doesn't get the extent to which Avon only cares about playing The Game. Stringer goes down because he thought it was about making the most money.

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* ''Series/TheWire'': Stringer ''Series/TheWire'':
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Bell fits this trope perfectly, killing D'Angelo behind Avon's back, and taking advantage of Avon's imprisonment to restructure the Barksdale Organization under his own model. His model is smarter and more professional, and ''might'' lead to less violence, but he doesn't get the extent to which Avon only cares about playing The Game. Stringer goes down because he thought it was about making the most money.money.
**Bill Rawls once he's promoted to Deputy Ops. While he and Burrell are thick as thieves at first, the moment Burrell's job security becomes threatened, Rawls immediately looks ready to find something to get Burrell ousted so that he can take his place.
19th Dec '16 7:49:19 AM Chabal2
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* ''{{ComicBook/Iznogoud}}'': The comic's entire schtick is the GrandVizier wanting to overthrow the none-too-bright and overly-trusting caliph, failing every time. In France, Iznogoud is the go-to character for the Starscream archetype, and his catchphrase "I want to be Caliph instead of the Caliph" [[MemeticMutation is euphemistically applied to similar situations]]. Made particularly hilarious when Sarkozy (also a short, exciteable NumberTwo) became president.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Find a Chaos warband, Ork mob, Dark Eldar Kabal, or Imperial planet. Find the next most powerful Marine, next biggest Ork, next most powerful Dark Eldar, or next highest-ranking noble. Congratulations, there's a 98% chance the person you've found fits the bill in a manner appropriate to the race in question. Except the Dark Eldar, as their rate of Starscreaming is close to 100%. The only person in their entire society ''not'' trying to overthrow his/her superior is Asdrubael Vect, and only because he has no superior to backstab. That said, although they are viciously competitive, the Dark Eldar will set aside their personal ambition and grudges when it comes time to execute a realspace raid for captives and plunder - they're scheming bastards, but they aren't stupid enough to sabotage their Kabal's success (and risk their own lives) by screwing up the battle plan.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. 40000}}'':
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Find a Chaos warband, Ork mob, Dark Eldar Kabal, or Imperial planet. Find the next most powerful Marine, next biggest Ork, next most powerful Dark Eldar, or next highest-ranking noble. Congratulations, there's a 98% chance the person you've found fits the bill in a manner appropriate to the race in question. Except the Dark Eldar, as their rate of Starscreaming is close to 100%. The only person in their entire society ''not'' trying to overthrow his/her superior is Asdrubael Vect, and only because he has no superior to backstab. That said, although they are viciously competitive, the Dark Eldar will set aside their personal ambition and grudges when it comes time to execute a realspace raid for captives and plunder - they're scheming bastards, but they aren't stupid enough to sabotage their Kabal's success (and risk their own lives) by screwing up the battle plan. Incubi are also less likely to do so to their clients- their loyalty is based on salary (among each other it still applies, as they practice KlingonPromotion).
** The Chaos God Tzeentch is hope embodied, and thus presides among things like change, magic, mutation, and backstabbing (to the point where he has plans that depend on a previous plan failing). Any Chaos leader hiring a sorcerer ''without'' expecting them to betray him at any second honestly deserves everything that happens to him.
9th Dec '16 5:00:27 PM merotoker
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** In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise'', Starscream [[spoiler: has convinced Bumblebee to let him join the new Cybertronian government, proving helpful in stopping renegade Decepticons still operating with their own agenda in the post-war world. He genuinely seemed invested in making this new arrangement work, and even befriended political rival Metalhawk. When the Decepticons rise up under Megatron he helps stop them, then he kills Metalhawk, blames his death on one of Megatron's Decepticons, sways public opinion to him, and becomes the ruler of new Cybertron, exiling those who wouldn't renounce their old allegiances- Bumblebee and other Autobots in major positions included, and no exceptions made for any of his former allies from the Decepticons, either.]]

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** In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise'', Starscream [[spoiler: has convinced Bumblebee to let him join the new Cybertronian government, proving helpful in stopping renegade Decepticons still operating with their own agenda in the post-war world. He genuinely seemed invested in making this new arrangement work, and even befriended political rival Metalhawk. When the Decepticons rise up under Megatron he helps stop them, then he kills Metalhawk, blames his death on one of Megatron's Decepticons, sways public opinion to him, and becomes the ruler of new Cybertron, exiling those who wouldn't renounce their old allegiances- Bumblebee and other Autobots in major positions included, and no exceptions made for any of his former allies from the Decepticons, either.]]either]].



** Does [[Anime/CodeGeass Schneizel el Britannia]] qualify? By the middle of R2, he clearly has no respect for [[TheEmperor his father]] anymore and is clearly angling to hear "Yes, your Majesty" rather than "Yes, your Highness." In fact, [[spoiler: he even puts out a hit on his own father, only to have his half-brother beat him to it.]] The only reason to hesitate is that, for all of R1 and the majority of R2, he's perfectly content with his role as [[EvilChancellor Prime Minister,]] and its only after he starts feeling that his father is a hindrance to TheEmpire that he begins to plot to take the throne. Most people in Schneizel's situation, when told that the Emperor did not care about "mundane" issues, would consider a coup to put in effective leadership too.

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** Does [[Anime/CodeGeass Schneizel el Britannia]] qualify? By the middle of R2, he clearly has no respect for [[TheEmperor his father]] anymore and is clearly angling to hear "Yes, your Majesty" rather than "Yes, your Highness." In fact, [[spoiler: he even puts out a hit on his own father, only to have his half-brother beat him to it.]] it]]. The only reason to hesitate is that, for all of R1 and the majority of R2, he's perfectly content with his role as [[EvilChancellor Prime Minister,]] and its only after he starts feeling that his father is a hindrance to TheEmpire that he begins to plot to take the throne. Most people in Schneizel's situation, when told that the Emperor did not care about "mundane" issues, would consider a coup to put in effective leadership too.



*** It's hinted at/foreshadowed by Schneizel himself in an R2 episode that the only part of the Damocles project that hadn't been completed was the [[spoiler: development of nukes powerful enough to make the plan work.]]
* [[Anime/DanCougar Shapiro Keats]]. He makes it pretty clear that his ambitions [[AGodAmI reach higher]] than working for Muge Zorbados. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, he alienates Luna, a very important potential ally, and Zorbados betrays him ''first.'']]

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*** It's hinted at/foreshadowed by Schneizel himself in an R2 episode that the only part of the Damocles project that hadn't been completed was the [[spoiler: development of nukes powerful enough to make the plan work.]]
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* [[Anime/DanCougar ''Anime/{{Dancougar}}'': Shapiro Keats]]. He Keats makes it pretty clear that his ambitions [[AGodAmI reach higher]] than working for Muge Zorbados. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, he alienates Luna, a very important potential ally, and Zorbados betrays him ''first.'']]



** Then in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' [[MagnificentBastard Treize Khushrenada]] founds his own [[EliteMooks mobile suit organization]] within the UESA specifically so that he can [[spoiler:one day throw a coup.]] Doing so by [[spoiler:[[UnwittingPawn tricking the Gundams into assassinating the USEA leadership.]]]]
** In ''[[Manga/MobileSuitGundamSEEDAstray Gundam SEED Astray]]'' Rondo Ghina Sahaku, plans to usurp the current heir to Orb's [[SuccessionCrisis government-in-exile]] after the leaders of the country [[SelfDestructMechanism commit]] [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled suicide]] to deny the Earth Alliance Orb's technology. His plan is foiled when [[spoiler:he's killed by a {{Hired Gun|s}}.]]
** Now we have [[FatBastard Zanald Beihart]] from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]'', [[spoiler:who is not happy about Zeheart given full authority over Project Eden and becoming Zeheart's {{Number Two}}, willing to destroy Zeheart as well as Earth Federal Forces.]]

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** Then in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'' [[MagnificentBastard Treize Khushrenada]] founds his own [[EliteMooks mobile suit organization]] within the UESA specifically so that he can [[spoiler:one day throw a coup.]] coup]]. Doing so by [[spoiler:[[UnwittingPawn tricking the Gundams into assassinating the USEA leadership.]]]]
leadership]]]].
** In ''[[Manga/MobileSuitGundamSEEDAstray Gundam SEED Astray]]'' Rondo Ghina Sahaku, plans to usurp the current heir to Orb's [[SuccessionCrisis government-in-exile]] after the leaders of the country [[SelfDestructMechanism commit]] [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled suicide]] to deny the Earth Alliance Orb's technology. His plan is foiled when [[spoiler:he's killed by a {{Hired Gun|s}}.]]
Gun|s}}]].
** Now we have [[FatBastard Zanald Beihart]] from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]'', [[spoiler:who is not happy about Zeheart given full authority over Project Eden and becoming Zeheart's {{Number Two}}, willing to destroy Zeheart as well as Earth Federal Forces.]]Forces]].



* In ''Anime/KillLaKill'', Satsuki Kiryuin, [[spoiler:much like Roy Mustang, was also a heroic version of this trope to her evil mother. From. The. Very. Beginning.]] And unlike most bearers of this trope in general, her reasons for being so are far more just and pure: [[spoiler: first she wants to save the world from a most gruesome fate, and after that, revenge for the years of being Ragyo's sex toy as well as the murder of her father and baby sister.]]
* Oskar von Reuenthal from ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is somewhat of an example. He actually ''is'' loyal to Kaiser Reinhard, but also a highly ambitious person himself. After Reinhard openly told Reuenthal to come at him whenever he wants if he really wants to challenge him (which he did rather because he just suffered a HeroicBSOD, not because he actually thought Reuenthal considered treachery), he begins to contemplate treachery but is kept in check by his good friend Mittermeier and his loyalty. It just goes to show what a conflicted person he is. He later [[spoiler:''does'' commit treachery, but more out of {{pride}} (which makes him a classic example of a TragicHero) and not because he wanted to overthrow Kaiser Reinhard. Reuenthal ''knew'' he would fail and in the end shows that he's still loyal to Reinhard after all.]]

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* In ''Anime/KillLaKill'', Satsuki Kiryuin, [[spoiler:much like Roy Mustang, was also a heroic version of this trope to her evil mother. From. The. Very. Beginning.]] Beginning]]. And unlike most bearers of this trope in general, her reasons for being so are far more just and pure: [[spoiler: first she wants to save the world from a most gruesome fate, and after that, revenge for the years of being Ragyo's sex toy as well as the murder of her father and baby sister.]]
sister]].
* Oskar von Reuenthal from ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is somewhat of an example. He actually ''is'' loyal to Kaiser Reinhard, but also a highly ambitious person himself. After Reinhard openly told Reuenthal to come at him whenever he wants if he really wants to challenge him (which he did rather because he just suffered a HeroicBSOD, not because he actually thought Reuenthal considered treachery), he begins to contemplate treachery but is kept in check by his good friend Mittermeier and his loyalty. It just goes to show what a conflicted person he is. He later [[spoiler:''does'' commit treachery, but more out of {{pride}} (which makes him a classic example of a TragicHero) and not because he wanted to overthrow Kaiser Reinhard. Reuenthal ''knew'' he would fail and in the end shows that he's still loyal to Reinhard after all.]]all]].



* ''Anime/MazingerZ'': Two Dr. Hell's servants fit the trope: Viscount Pygman and Archduke Gorgon. The former disobeyed orders the whole time and finally betrayed his creator, [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs taking over the Institute]] on his own and refusing handed over the control of it to Hell. The later allied himself with Hell but spend the whole time insulting and scorning Hell and his henchmen, undermining his authority and scheming to overthrow Hell at the first chance. [[spoiler:He was successful]]. Gorgon subverted the trope slightly since he was not planning replacing Hell with himself but with [[spoiler:[[Anime/GreatMazinger the Emperor of Darkness]].]]

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* ''Anime/MazingerZ'': Two Dr. Hell's servants fit the trope: Viscount Pygman and Archduke Gorgon. The former disobeyed orders the whole time and finally betrayed his creator, [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs taking over the Institute]] on his own and refusing handed over the control of it to Hell. The later allied himself with Hell but spend the whole time insulting and scorning Hell and his henchmen, undermining his authority and scheming to overthrow Hell at the first chance. [[spoiler:He was successful]]. successful.]] Gorgon subverted the trope slightly since he was not planning replacing Hell with himself but with [[spoiler:[[Anime/GreatMazinger the Emperor of Darkness]].]]



** Now that Kabuto has mastered [[spoiler: Orochimaru's remains and Edo Tensei, many think he's in a position to be The Starscream to [[BigBad Tobi]] now that he's allied with him. Some evidence is how the Edo Tensei zombies are performing in the first battle of the war- like Deidara not attacking like he normally does and Sasori being under armed for combat.]]

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** Now that Kabuto has mastered [[spoiler: Orochimaru's remains and Edo Tensei, many think he's in a position to be The Starscream to [[BigBad Tobi]] now that he's allied with him. Some evidence is how the Edo Tensei zombies are performing in the first battle of the war- like Deidara not attacking like he normally does and Sasori being under armed for combat.]]combat]].



** A flashback reveals that [[spoiler: Portgas D. Ace]], of all people, started out as one before developing fanatical loyalty to [[spoiler: Whitebeard]]. This is exactly as [[spoiler: Whitebeard had hoped, as he had wanted Ace to be the next [[ToBeAMaster King of the Pirates]] anyway.]]
** New Blackbeard member [[spoiler:Avalo Pizarro, after some setbacks outright challenges Teach for his post as Captain. He steps down after Lafitte threatens to kill him, but who knows later...]]

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** A flashback reveals that [[spoiler: Portgas D. Ace]], of all people, started out as one before developing fanatical loyalty to [[spoiler: Whitebeard]]. This is exactly as [[spoiler: Whitebeard had hoped, as he had wanted Ace to be the next [[ToBeAMaster King of the Pirates]] anyway.]]
anyway]].
** New Blackbeard member [[spoiler:Avalo Pizarro, after some setbacks outright challenges Teach for his post as Captain. He steps down after Lafitte threatens to kill him, but who knows later...]]later..]].



* In ''Manga/ThePromisedNeverland'', the PeopleFarm is ruled by the sole Isabella, until some of the "cattle" children happen to learn the truth and start to plan an escape. Enter Sister Krone, who is sent to help Isabella keep her marchandise in line until the next shipment. Except the position of "Mom" seems to be quite an enviable one and Krone is more set on taking Isabella's place than quietly obeying her. Which the latter is fully aware of, if not outright taking advantage of it.

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* In ''Manga/ThePromisedNeverland'', the PeopleFarm {{People Farm|s}} is ruled by the sole Isabella, until some of the "cattle" children happen to learn the truth and start to plan an escape. Enter Sister Krone, who is sent to help Isabella keep her marchandise in line until the next shipment. Except the position of "Mom" seems to be quite an enviable one and Krone is more set on taking Isabella's place than quietly obeying her. Which the latter is fully aware of, if not outright taking advantage of it.



* Quamzin, the overzealous Zentradi warlord in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross''. While Vrlitwhai is a charismatic MagnificentBastard who is just so cool that he manages to keep his BadAss persona even after his HeelFaceTurn, even when he blatantly says he's only doing it to save his own skin, as Boddole-zer would kill him and his fleet for being tainted, Quamzin is just a ''dick'' who will stab anyone (especially his own superiors) in the back for another chance to attack the humans, or, well anyone else, really. He's such a loose cannon that the other Zentraedi have given him the epithet [[LukeNounverber "Quamzin Ally-Killer"]]. He's not really interested in taking control of the Zentradi fleet though, he's just AxCrazy and doesn't care about collateral damage among his allies.

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* Quamzin, the overzealous Zentradi warlord in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross''. While Vrlitwhai is a charismatic MagnificentBastard who is just so cool that he manages to keep his BadAss badass persona even after his HeelFaceTurn, even when he blatantly says he's only doing it to save his own skin, as Boddole-zer would kill him and his fleet for being tainted, Quamzin is just a ''dick'' who will stab anyone (especially his own superiors) in the back for another chance to attack the humans, or, well anyone else, really. He's such a loose cannon that the other Zentraedi have given him the epithet [[LukeNounverber "Quamzin Ally-Killer"]]. He's not really interested in taking control of the Zentradi fleet though, he's just AxCrazy and doesn't care about collateral damage among his allies.



* Doctor Doom for a while had a MadScientist [[TheDragon right hand man]], called Hauptmann. In a fit of rage, after Hauptmann fired a weapon at the Fantastic Four which also destroyed some of Doom's heirlooms, Doom killed him. A while went on, until Hauptmann's brother joined Doctor Doom, coincidentally he was also a scientist. He always plotted to kill Doctor Doom for vengeance. At one point Hauptmann created a machine which synthesized [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer Terrax]]' power cosmic, and pleaded Doom to use his machine. Doom turned the machine on him instead, [[BatmanGambit knowing fully well the second Hauptmann was going to betray him]], [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow and that he would've used the machine on himself before he would give it to Doom]].
* In the [[ComicBook/GIJoeARealAmericanHeroMarvel Marvel comic book stories of G.I. Joe]], Serpentor immediately becomes this to Cobra Commander. He successfully coerces Cobra Commander and Destro into a situation where they apparently get killed and then takes control of Cobra. Unknown to him, to Cobra and to the Joes, the two actually survive; they part ways and the Commander breifly conspires with one of his Crimson Guardsmen, who eventually kills him out of anger when CC has a VillainousBSOD moment. ([[DorkAge Long story]]; [[{{Retcon}} He does come back]]... almost 40 issues later!) This Guardsman then completes his Starscream moment as he decides to take the identity of Cobra Commander and wrest control of the organization from Serpentor. TheBaroness, being the only one in Cobra at the time who has the credit of having seen Cobra Commander's true face, goes along with the ploy and proclaims to the whole organization that he's the real deal. Serpentor, unable to prove her wrong, then goes back to Starscreaming; plotting behind this Cobra Commander's back to get rid of him and bring Cobra back under his control.

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* Doctor Doom ComicBook/DoctorDoom for a while had a MadScientist [[TheDragon right hand man]], called Hauptmann. In a fit of rage, after Hauptmann fired a weapon at the Fantastic Four which also destroyed some of Doom's heirlooms, Doom killed him. A while went on, on until Hauptmann's brother joined Doctor Doom, who coincidentally he was also a scientist. He always plotted to kill Doctor Doom for vengeance. At one point Hauptmann created a machine which synthesized [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer [[Characters/{{Galactus}} Terrax]]' power cosmic, and pleaded for Doom to use his machine. Doom turned the machine on him instead, [[BatmanGambit knowing fully well the second Hauptmann was going to betray him]], [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow and that he would've used the machine on himself before he would give it to Doom]].
* In the [[ComicBook/GIJoeARealAmericanHeroMarvel Marvel comic book stories of G.I. Joe]], Serpentor immediately becomes this to Cobra Commander. He successfully coerces Cobra Commander and Destro into a situation where they apparently get killed and then takes control of Cobra. Unknown to him, to Cobra and to the Joes, the two actually survive; they part ways and the Commander breifly briefly conspires with one of his Crimson Guardsmen, who eventually kills him out of anger when CC has a VillainousBSOD moment. ([[DorkAge Long story]]; [[{{Retcon}} He does come back]]... almost 40 issues later!) This Guardsman then completes his Starscream moment as he decides to take the identity of Cobra Commander and wrest control of the organization from Serpentor. TheBaroness, being the only one in Cobra at the time who has the credit of having seen Cobra Commander's true face, goes along with the ploy and proclaims to the whole organization that he's the real deal. Serpentor, unable to prove her wrong, then goes back to Starscreaming; plotting behind this Cobra Commander's back to get rid of him and bring Cobra back under his control.



* Creator/MarvelComics' Fabian Cortez plays the trope straight, betraying SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} and "[[DeathIsCheap killing]]" him. Magneto later [[WelcomeBackTraitor took him back in his ranks]] out of need for his abilities, but [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness promptly took his revenge when he no longer needed him]].
* ComicBook/TheKingpin's son Richard usually works for him, but there have been times he has tried to oppose him secretly, usually taking the masked identity of the Rose (and later the Blood Rose, a more martial and violent version of the previous identity). Richard eventually tried to convince his mother to help him, [[spoiler: but her loyalty to her husband was far greater than it was to her son; she shot him in cold blood.]]
* Another Marvel example is the Controller, who's constantly attempts to betray and overthrow his boss the Hood. The Hood is well-aware of this [[UltimateJobSecurity but Controller is too useful to kill]], which Controller was quite aware of. Eventually though Controller ended up pushing Hood too far and Hood responded by TakingAThirdOption; namely, taking one of Controller's slave discs (which basically force anyone wearing one to do whatever someone else wants, while leaving them self-aware) and [[AndIMustScream slapping it onto Controller permanently]].

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* Creator/MarvelComics' Fabian Cortez plays the trope straight, betraying SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} and "[[DeathIsCheap killing]]" him. Magneto later [[WelcomeBackTraitor took him back in his ranks]] out of need for his abilities, but [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness promptly took his revenge when he no longer needed him]].
* ComicBook/TheKingpin's son Richard usually works for him, but there have been times he has tried to oppose him secretly, usually taking the masked identity of the Rose (and later the Blood Rose, a more martial and violent version of the previous identity). Richard eventually tried to convince his mother to help him, [[spoiler: but her loyalty to her husband was far greater than it was to her son; she shot him in cold blood.]]
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* Another Marvel example is the Controller, who's who constantly attempts to betray and overthrow his boss the Hood.ComicBook/TheHood. The Hood is well-aware of this [[UltimateJobSecurity but Controller is too useful to kill]], which Controller was quite aware of. Eventually though Controller ended up pushing Hood too far and Hood responded by TakingAThirdOption; [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]]; namely, taking one of Controller's slave discs (which basically force anyone wearing one to do whatever someone else wants, while leaving them self-aware) and [[AndIMustScream slapping it onto Controller permanently]].



* [[spoiler: Mikami]] becomes this in ''FanFic/ACureForLove'' upon realizing that [[spoiler: [[TheCaligula his "God" is a sickly teenaged junkie that has said bye-bye to reality.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: Mikami]] becomes this in ''FanFic/ACureForLove'' upon realizing that [[spoiler: [[TheCaligula his "God" is a sickly teenaged junkie that has said bye-bye to reality.]]]] reality]]]].



* The captain of Chrysalis army in [[Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn My Brave Pony: Star Fleet Is Magic II]] [[spoiler: Turns out he is a cyborg only pretending to be a changeling, who wants to take over Equestria with his robot army]]

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* The captain of Chrysalis army in [[Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn My Brave Pony: Star Fleet Is Magic II]] [[spoiler: Turns out he is a cyborg only pretending to be a changeling, who wants to take over Equestria with his robot army]]army]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH2TimmyToTheRescue'', the original villain Dr. Valentine, who barely gets a few lines, is [[spoiler:replaced by Martin, who now fancies himself the ruler of Thorn Valley.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH2TimmyToTheRescue'', the original villain Dr. Valentine, who barely gets a few lines, is [[spoiler:replaced by Martin, who now fancies himself the ruler of Thorn Valley.]]Valley]].



* Lord Sopesian and Lord Glozelle seek to overthrow King Miraz in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia: Literature/PrinceCaspian'' by provoking him into accepting Peter's challenge of a mano-a-mano sword fight in hopes that he'll be killed. [[spoiler:When this doesn't happen, Sopesian stabs Miraz in the back. Glozelle gets a HeelFaceTurn, though.]]
** In the book, [[spoiler: Glozelle is the one who stabs Miraz to death, as revenge for his ex-leader insulting him before the duel with Peter takes place. Both him and Sopesian end up killed in battle]].

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* Lord Sopesian and Lord Glozelle seek to overthrow King Miraz in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia: Literature/PrinceCaspian'' ''Film/TheChroniclesOfNarnia: Film/PrinceCaspian'' by provoking him into accepting Peter's challenge of a mano-a-mano sword fight in hopes that he'll be killed. [[spoiler:When this doesn't happen, Sopesian stabs Miraz in the back. Glozelle gets a HeelFaceTurn, though.]]
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]] In [[Literature/PrinceCaspian the book, book]], [[spoiler: Glozelle is the one who stabs Miraz to death, as revenge for his ex-leader insulting him before the duel with Peter takes place. Both him and Sopesian end up killed in battle]].



* ''Film/FaustLoveOfTheDamned'': [[DarkMistress Claire]] tries to kill her demon master M and take control of his organization The Hand by convincing his doctor to sabotage the routine injections that M needs to sustain his human body. [[NotQuiteDead He recovers soon enough]], and is none too pleased.



* Benedict in ''Film/LastActionHero'' acts a [[TheDragon dragon]] to the mob boss for most of the film, until he figures out what's going on and [[spoiler:shoots his boss, becoming the new BigBad]].

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* Benedict in ''Film/LastActionHero'' acts a [[TheDragon dragon]] as TheDragon to the mob boss for most of the film, until he figures out what's going on and [[spoiler:shoots his boss, becoming the new BigBad]].



* Captain Frye from ''Film/TheRock'' becomes the [[TrueFinalBoss true]] BigBad of the movie after [[spoiler: he and his accomplice Captain Darrow kill Hummel and Baxter]].



** In Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, the entire story revolves around Starkiller [[spoiler: falsely]] believing that he is training for Darth Vader's plan to oust the Emperor. [[spoiler: Even though it is further revealed that Darth Sidious was planning for Starkiller to be the Starscream to Darth Vader. Something that does not please Darth Vader.]]

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** In Star ''Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Unleashed'', the entire story revolves around Starkiller [[spoiler: falsely]] believing that he is training for Darth Vader's plan to oust the Emperor. [[spoiler: Even though it is further revealed that Darth Sidious was planning for Starkiller to be the Starscream to Darth Vader. Something that does not please Darth Vader.]]



* Captain Frye from ''Film/TheRock'' becomes the [[TrueFinalBoss true]] BigBad of the movie after [[spoiler: he and his accomplice Captain Darrow kill Hummel and Baxter]].
* ''Film/FaustLoveOfTheDamned'': [[DarkMistress Claire]] tries to kill her demon master M and take control of his organization The Hand by convincing his doctor to sabotage the routine injections that M needs to sustain his human body. [[NotQuiteDead He recovers soon enough]], and is none too pleased.



* ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'': Rare quasi-sympathetic example with Edmund Blackadder in his [[TheLateMiddleAges first]] and [[RegencyEngland third]] incarnations. It's hard to blame him given the [[ObliviouslyEvil dangerously inept]] [[UpperClassTwit powers]] in charge. The [[TheRenaissance second]], [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI fourth]], [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Victorian]], and [[UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar ''Cavalier Years'']] incarnations are, arguably, just trying to stay alive. To be more specific: the first one had some ambitions but was too spineless and idiotic to do anything about it and ended up being pushed around both by his more competent father-king and the other villains once he decided to take over. The second one was an OpportunisticBastard who tried to earn the evil Queen's favour and perhaps even marry her and rule himself, but didn't really go any further than saving his neck for a longer time than anyone would have hoped. The third one was just as self-serving though far more proud and in control of the moronic Prince George and was more of a DragonInChief for him.

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* ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'': Rare quasi-sympathetic example with Edmund Blackadder in his [[TheLateMiddleAges first]] and [[RegencyEngland third]] incarnations. It's hard to blame him given the [[ObliviouslyEvil dangerously inept]] [[UpperClassTwit powers]] in charge. The [[TheRenaissance [[UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance second]], [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI fourth]], [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol Victorian]], and [[UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar ''Cavalier Years'']] incarnations are, arguably, just trying to stay alive. To be more specific: the first one had some ambitions but was too spineless and idiotic to do anything about it and ended up being pushed around both by his more competent father-king and the other villains once he decided to take over. The second one was an OpportunisticBastard who tried to earn the evil Queen's favour and perhaps even marry her and rule himself, but didn't really go any further than saving his neck for a longer time than anyone would have hoped. The third one was just as self-serving though far more proud and in control of the moronic Prince George and was more of a DragonInChief for him.



* Wrestling/BrunoSammartino and his 1980 feud with Larry Zbyskyo. In a twist of this trope, "The Living Legend" was very much a {{face}} and was grooming Zbyskyo to become the next megastar of wrestling. But the trope kicks in wherein Zbyskyo grows more and more frustrated that his time in the spotlight is still coming, and eventually asks for a challenge match against his mentor. The famous match saw Sammartino counter Zbyskyo's moves at every turn, and every complaint that Zbyskyo had that Bruno wasn't giving him a fair chance was ignored. Eventually, Zbyskyo lost his patience and brutally beat Sammartino into a bloody heap. The aftermath made Zbyskyo – the Starscream – into a hated heel and set off a violent feud that ended in a steel cage at New York City's Shea Stadium.

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* Wrestling/BrunoSammartino and his 1980 feud with Larry Zbyskyo. In a twist of this trope, "The Living Legend" was very much a {{face}} and was grooming Zbyskyo to become the next megastar of wrestling. But the trope kicks in wherein Zbyskyo grows more and more frustrated that his time in the spotlight is still coming, and eventually asks for a challenge match against his mentor. The famous match saw Sammartino counter Zbyskyo's moves at every turn, and every complaint that Zbyskyo had that Bruno wasn't giving him a fair chance was ignored. Eventually, Zbyskyo lost his patience and [[FaceHeelTurn brutally beat Sammartino into a bloody heap. heap]]. The aftermath made Zbyskyo – the Starscream – into a hated heel {{heel}} and set off a violent feud that ended in a steel cage at New York City's Shea Stadium.



* Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis acted as he was supporting Triple H during his early time as COO in 2011. It became quite clear that he was behind the scenes trying to make Triple H look like the bad guy by having members of the roster come to him with their issues, and sucking up to the Board of Directors in order to be appointed as the head of Raw after they decided to take Triple H off due to the walkout. Even Vince [=McMahon=] himself was displeased that Triple H, the guy who took over his operating duties, was being overruled by the board.

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* Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis acted as if he was supporting Triple H during his early time as COO in 2011. It became quite clear that he was behind the scenes trying to make Triple H look like the bad guy by having members of the roster come to him with their issues, and sucking up to the Board of Directors in order to be appointed as the head of Raw after they decided to take Triple H off due to the walkout. Even Vince [=McMahon=] himself was displeased that Triple H, the guy who took over his operating duties, was being overruled by the board.



** The Green Sun Princes are practically designed to be this to their Yozi masters. Half the charms in the ''Broken Winged Crane'' book are dedicated to allowing the GSPs to break free and to become something even more powerful than the Yozis.

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** The Green Sun Princes are practically designed to be this to their Yozi masters. Half the charms in the ''Broken Winged Crane'' book are dedicated to allowing the GSPs [=GSPs=] to break free and to become something even more powerful than the Yozis.



* Organization XIII from the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series is ''full'' of these, most of whom are stationed in Castle Oblivion during ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories Chain of Memories]]''. First there's the Castle's lord Marluxia and his [[TheDragon Dragon]] Larxene, who plot to take over the Organization using Sora and Naminé. Opposing them are Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, who try to derail their plans using Riku. These five are eventually eliminated by Sora, Riku, and [[LovableTraitor Axel]], the last of whom was specifically ordered by Xemnas--through his friend Saïx--to do so. ''Then'' it turns out in ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 358/2 Days]]'' that [[spoiler:by eliminating the potential traitors in Castle Oblivion, Saïx and Axel have removed the potential obstacles to ''their'' plans to overthrow Xemnas, which fell apart when Axel ended his friendship with Saïx for one with Roxas and Xion, while Saïx himself ended up becoming too absorbed by the authority he had over the other members to care about betraying Xemnas anymore.]]

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* Organization XIII from the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series is ''full'' of these, most of whom are stationed in Castle Oblivion during ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories Chain of Memories]]''. First there's the Castle's lord Marluxia and his [[TheDragon Dragon]] Larxene, who plot to take over the Organization using Sora and Naminé. Opposing them are Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, who try to derail their plans using Riku. These five are eventually eliminated by Sora, Riku, and [[LovableTraitor Axel]], the last of whom was specifically ordered by Xemnas--through his friend Saïx--to do so. ''Then'' it turns out in ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 358/2 Days]]'' that [[spoiler:by eliminating the potential traitors in Castle Oblivion, Saïx and Axel have removed the potential obstacles to ''their'' plans to overthrow Xemnas, which fell apart when Axel ended his friendship with Saïx for one with Roxas and Xion, while Saïx himself ended up becoming too absorbed by the authority he had over the other members to care about betraying Xemnas anymore.]]anymore]].



* Prometheus and Pandora from ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' obviously hate their creator, but they had their reasons for not stabbing him in the back at first - Master Albert had to limit the amount of time they could live in order to keep them under control, since they had to keep going back for maintenance in order to stay alive. But when they do, [[spoiler:Prometheus simply walks up to Master Albert, kills him off right in front of the hero, and declares that Albert's "Game of Destiny" was all a farce (Those two are the only villainous characters in the series who actually realized this), and that he and Pandora will destroy everything as part of their revenge.]] Interestingly enough, they didn't quite succeed. There's a good reason why Master Albert is a MagnificentBastard - [[spoiler:Albert actually [[ActuallyADoombot faked his death as part of a plan]] [[UnwittingPawn that his own creations unintentionally provided him with]], and it's implied that both Prometheus and Pandora are both dead... [[KarmicDeath thanks to their own traitorous actions]].]]

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* Prometheus and Pandora from ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' obviously hate their creator, but they had their reasons for not stabbing him in the back at first - Master Albert had to limit the amount of time they could live in order to keep them under control, since they had to keep going back for maintenance in order to stay alive. But when they do, [[spoiler:Prometheus simply walks up to Master Albert, kills him off right in front of the hero, and declares that Albert's "Game of Destiny" was all a farce (Those two are the only villainous characters in the series who actually realized this), and that he and Pandora will destroy everything as part of their revenge.]] revenge]]. Interestingly enough, they didn't quite succeed. There's a good reason why Master Albert is a MagnificentBastard - [[spoiler:Albert actually [[ActuallyADoombot faked his death as part of a plan]] [[UnwittingPawn that his own creations unintentionally provided him with]], and it's implied that both Prometheus and Pandora are both dead... [[KarmicDeath thanks to their own traitorous actions]].]]actions]]]].



* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Every Sith]], except for the Dark Council (because as the OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness they don't have anyone to backstab), but most especially the player characters:

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* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Every Sith]], except for the Dark Council (because as the OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness they don't have anyone to backstab), but most especially the player characters:



** Happens to [[spoiler: Sylvanas]] again when [[spoiler: Godfrey, who she had turned into a Forsaken to help fight the Worgen, betrays and murders her at the climax of Silverpine questing. She gets better, though.]]

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** Happens to [[spoiler: Sylvanas]] again when [[spoiler: Godfrey, who she had turned into a Forsaken to help fight the Worgen, betrays and murders her at the climax of Silverpine questing. She gets better, though.]]though]].



* Sho Minamimoto from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' has elements of this; while several people want to overthrow the god-like Composer, [[spoiler:Sho is the only one who is willing to toy with the exceedingly dangerous and violent Taboo Noise to do such, and the only one willing to chase the Composer to the [=RealGround=] (which is to say, mortal life) to do it.]] In a bit of a twist, the ending reveals that the Composer, [[spoiler:Joshua]], actually kind of ''enjoys'' having such a loose cannon around. [[spoiler:It helps that, even reincarnated with the powers of Taboo Noise, Minamimoto isn't even close to Joshua's level; the last encounter the player has with Minamimoto is finding his dead body sticking out from one of his own junk-heap art displays.]]

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* Sho Minamimoto from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' has elements of this; while several people want to overthrow the god-like Composer, [[spoiler:Sho is the only one who is willing to toy with the exceedingly dangerous and violent Taboo Noise to do such, and the only one willing to chase the Composer to the [=RealGround=] (which is to say, mortal life) to do it.]] it]]. In a bit of a twist, the ending reveals that the Composer, [[spoiler:Joshua]], actually kind of ''enjoys'' having such a loose cannon around. [[spoiler:It helps that, even reincarnated with the powers of Taboo Noise, Minamimoto isn't even close to Joshua's level; the last encounter the player has with Minamimoto is finding his dead body sticking out from one of his own junk-heap art displays.]]



* A variation in ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' - Hayley Kelly was playing the game in v4 mainly to protect her ex-girlfriend, Ema Ryan. However, when it came down to the wire, almost 30 students left, Ema Ryan decided she could do the rest on her own and [[spoiler:killed Hayley, went on to become a late-game player who killed almost the same amount of people Hayley did (about eight, including Hayley herself), but ultimately died of her injuries when there was less than ten students left.]]

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* A variation in ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' - Hayley Kelly was playing the game in v4 mainly to protect her ex-girlfriend, Ema Ryan. However, when it came down to the wire, almost 30 students left, Ema Ryan decided she could do the rest on her own and [[spoiler:killed Hayley, went on to become a late-game player who killed almost the same amount of people Hayley did (about eight, including Hayley herself), but ultimately died of her injuries when there was less than ten students left.]]left]].



* [[MadScientist Urpgor]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' intends to claim the titular MacGuffin for himself, betray and overthrow his master [[BigBad Zordrak]] and crown himself [[EvilOverlord Lord of Nightmares]]. A very unusual kind of character from a show that has been accused of [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting too sweet]].



* Paxton Powers in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' was an odd case. You could technically say he was a ''successful'' Starscream killing his father Derek ([[NeverFoundTheBody or so it seemed]]) and taking over Wayne-Powers as CEO, even though he really only did so because he lucked out. The thing is, Paxton became a rather [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain pathetic replacement]], not at all like the dangerous and ruthless tycoon his father was. Squandering his newfound position on wine, women, and song, neither Bruce Wayne nor Terry took him seriously at all, and when he eventually got greedy and doubled crossed the Royal Flush Gang after hiring them to steal artifacts, he was hauled off to jail. (And he pretty much ruined the Royal Flush Gang's once stellar reputation in the underworld in the process.) Paxton did threaten to buy the courts and have Barbara Gordon and the rest of the police department working in the sanitation department when his lawyers were done, but that was likely an empty threat. The important thing is, Wayne was finally able to regain full control of his company again.

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* Paxton Powers in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' was an odd case. You could technically say he was a ''successful'' Starscream killing his father Derek ([[NeverFoundTheBody or so it seemed]]) and taking over Wayne-Powers as CEO, even though he really only did so because he lucked out. The thing is, Paxton became a rather [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain pathetic replacement]], not at all like the dangerous and ruthless tycoon his father was. Squandering his newfound position on wine, women, and song, neither Bruce Wayne nor Terry took him seriously at all, and when he eventually got greedy and doubled double crossed the Royal Flush Gang after hiring them to steal artifacts, he was hauled off to jail. (And he pretty much ruined the Royal Flush Gang's once stellar reputation in the underworld in the process.) Paxton did threaten to buy the courts and have Barbara Gordon and the rest of the police department working in the sanitation department when his lawyers were done, but that was likely an empty threat. The important thing is, Wayne was finally able to regain full control of his company again.



* [[MadScientist Urpgor]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' intends to claim the titular MacGuffin for himself, betray and overthrow his master [[BigBad Zordrak]] and crown himself [[EvilOverlord Lord of Nightmares]]. A very unusual kind of character from a show that has been accused of [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting too sweet]].



* Sarah Bellum was like this in one episode of ''WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''. This led to a brief EnemyMine between Carmen and the two heroes, as Carmen was obviously the LesserOfTwoEvils. (Sarah was far more brutal.)



* In the episode "Gir Goes Crazy and Stuff" of ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', the main character locks his usually hopelessly scatterbrained RobotBuddy Gir into "duty mode", forcing him to be focused and sane. Unfortunately, Zim himself is a total GeneralFailure, and now that Gir is functioning properly for a prolonged period of time, he can realize just how much of a bungling, arrogant, hopelessly incompetent fool Zim is. So he openly turns on Zim and nearly kills him before Zim manages to undo his efforts, making Gir too stupid and distractible to think about betraying Zim anymore.



* In ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'' Emperor Femur's chancellor Pelvis regularly drips poison on his boss's dinner slugs. And they're "good guys", [[TokenEvilTeammate sort of]].



* ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. Lieutenant Steel has his eyes set on replacing Commander Feral as leader of The Enforcers. Unlike most examples, Steel is trying to be leader of a heroic organization. Although Steel himself is the least heroic of the Enforcers as he displays all the qualities the Trope Namer has. He is complete suck-up to Feral, even praising his worst ideas, while mocking him behind his back. The moment Feral is out of commission, Steel makes his move, even once abandoning Feral to his fate. And like the Trope Namer, he's a total coward who just want to throw orders. The moment he's forced into being Feral's co-pilot, he reveals he has no combat training and gets airsick in the jet.



* Scarlett from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama Pahkitew Island'', who spends the season using [[CardCarryingVillain Max]] to do her dirty work before in "Scarlett Fever" she reveals herself to be EvilerThanThou and takes control of the island's systems to coerce Chris into handing her the prize money.



* In ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}'', [[spoiler: Cedric eats Phobos unexpectedly after Phobos agrees to give 'a fraction of his power' - which he decided to interpret as 3/3, 4/4 or equivalent.]]
* In the episode "Gir Goes Crazy and Stuff" of ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', the main character locks his usually hopelessly scatterbrained RobotBuddy Gir into "duty mode", forcing him to be focused and sane. Unfortunately, Zim himself is a total GeneralFailure, and now that Gir is functioning properly for a prolonged period of time, he can realize just how much of a bungling, arrogant, hopelessly incompetent fool Zim is. So he openly turns on Zim and nearly kills him before Zim manages to undo his efforts, making Gir too stupid and distractible to think about betraying Zim anymore.
* Scarlett from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama Pahkitew Island'', who spends the season using [[CardCarryingVillain Max]] to do her dirty work before in "Scarlett Fever" she reveals herself to be EvilerThanThou and takes control of the island's systems to coerce Chris into handing her the prize money.
* In ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'' Emperor Femur's chancellor Pelvis regularly drips poison on his boss's dinner slugs. And they're "good guys", [[TokenEvilTeammate sort of]].
* ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. Lieutenant Steel has his eyes set on replacing Commander Feral as leader of The Enforcers. Unlike most examples, Steel is trying to be leader of a heroic organization. Although Steel himself is the least heroic of the Enforcers as he displays all the qualities the Trope Namer has. He is complete suck-up to Feral, even praising his worst ideas, while mocking him behind his back. The moment Feral is out of commission, Steel makes his move, even once abandoning Feral to his fate. And like the Trope Namer, he's a total coward who just want to throw orders. The moment he's forced into being Feral's co-pilot, he reveals he has no combat training and gets airsick in the jet.

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* Sarah Bellum was like this in one episode of ''WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''. This led to a brief EnemyMine between Carmen and the two heroes, as Carmen was obviously the LesserOfTwoEvils. (Sarah was far more brutal.)
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}'', [[spoiler: Cedric eats Phobos unexpectedly after Phobos agrees to give 'a fraction of his power' - which he decided to interpret as 3/3, 4/4 or equivalent.]]
* In the episode "Gir Goes Crazy and Stuff" of ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', the main character locks his usually hopelessly scatterbrained RobotBuddy Gir into "duty mode", forcing him to be focused and sane. Unfortunately, Zim himself is a total GeneralFailure, and now that Gir is functioning properly for a prolonged period of time, he can realize just how much of a bungling, arrogant, hopelessly incompetent fool Zim is. So he openly turns on Zim and nearly kills him before Zim manages to undo his efforts, making Gir too stupid and distractible to think about betraying Zim anymore.
* Scarlett from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama Pahkitew Island'', who spends the season using [[CardCarryingVillain Max]] to do her dirty work before in "Scarlett Fever" she reveals herself to be EvilerThanThou and takes control of the island's systems to coerce Chris into handing her the prize money.
* In ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'' Emperor Femur's chancellor Pelvis regularly drips poison on his boss's dinner slugs. And they're "good guys", [[TokenEvilTeammate sort of]].
* ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. Lieutenant Steel has his eyes set on replacing Commander Feral as leader of The Enforcers. Unlike most examples, Steel is trying to be leader of a heroic organization. Although Steel himself is the least heroic of the Enforcers as he displays all the qualities the Trope Namer has. He is complete suck-up to Feral, even praising his worst ideas, while mocking him behind his back. The moment Feral is out of commission, Steel makes his move, even once abandoning Feral to his fate. And like the Trope Namer, he's a total coward who just want to throw orders. The moment he's forced into being Feral's co-pilot, he reveals he has no combat training and gets airsick in the jet.
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Depending on the nature of the character, he may be an over-optimistic fool or someone who might actually be able to pull it off. If the character ''is'' {{badass}} enough, the heroes might be forced to try to stop him from toppling the original villain. Usually fond of playing CommanderContrarian to their boss' schemes ([[VillainBall deservedly]] or not), who will normally NeckLift them into kowtowing to their will. It can be hard to justify why the Big Bad keeps them around and doesn't ShootTheDangerousMinion, but it may be so the Big Bad has a reason to always keep his guard up (and thus can rest assured that he will never become too complacent). Or perhaps the Starscream is simply a powerful asset whenever he actually obeys the main villain, so it's worth keeping him around despite the risk of betrayal.


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Depending on the nature of the character, he may be an over-optimistic fool or someone who might actually be able to pull it off. If the character ''is'' {{badass}} badass enough, the heroes might be forced to try to stop him from toppling the original villain. Usually fond of playing CommanderContrarian to their boss' schemes ([[VillainBall deservedly]] or not), who will normally NeckLift them into kowtowing to their will. It can be hard to justify why the Big Bad keeps them around and doesn't ShootTheDangerousMinion, but it may be so the Big Bad has a reason to always keep his guard up (and thus can rest assured that he will never become too complacent). Or perhaps the Starscream is simply a powerful asset whenever he actually obeys the main villain, so it's worth keeping him around despite the risk of betrayal.

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