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7th Feb '16 6:06:50 PM Eddy1215
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*** If the Air Strike Patrol (see below) is the best collection of Starscream-types in one place, the ''Beast Wars'' Predacons are a very close second
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*** If the Air Strike Patrol (see below) is the best collection of Starscream-types in one place, the ''Beast Wars'' Predacons are a very close secondsecond.
3rd Feb '16 12:01:08 AM Kurogane7
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* In {{VideoGame/Destiny}}, this is actually encouraged as an act of love by the Hive. ** According to the Taken Captain's Grimoire, when Fallen Captains are not busy serving their Kells and Servitors, they are busy worrying about some upstart trying to take power from them...and they are surrounded by ''a lot'' of opportunistic pirate-people.
25th Jan '16 11:24:24 PM Scrounge
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** The Maximal Elders at one had the [[SarcasmMode astonishingly bright idea]] to combine the original Starscream's indestructible spark with a Maximal's, presumably hoping to create an indestructible super-soldier. The result ''[[GoneHorriblyRight was]]'' a GeniusBruiser ImplacableMan ...but [[GoneHorriblyWrong was also]] a cannibalistic OmnicidalManiac. And since he had Starscream's spark, he was "hopelessly treacherous."
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*** If the Air Strike Patrol (see below) is the best collection of Starscream-types in one place, the ''Beast Wars'' Predacons are a very close second ** The Maximal Elders at one point had the [[SarcasmMode astonishingly bright idea]] to combine the original Starscream's indestructible spark with a Maximal's, presumably hoping to create an indestructible super-soldier. The result ''[[GoneHorriblyRight was]]'' a GeniusBruiser ImplacableMan ...but [[GoneHorriblyWrong was also]] a cannibalistic OmnicidalManiac. And since he had Starscream's spark, he was "hopelessly treacherous."" *** Megatron was (somewhat) able to keep him in line, but only by ''[[YourSoulIsMine cutting out a piece of his spark]]'' and putting it in a handheld torture device.
22nd Jan '16 3:20:48 PM StFan
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', Abomination is The Starscream to Baron Zemo. Abomination is an interesting example since before joining Zemo, he was a loyal [[TheDragon Dragon]] to the Leader.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', Abomination is The Starscream to Baron Zemo. Abomination is an interesting example since before joining Zemo, he was a loyal [[TheDragon Dragon]] to the Leader.
7th Jan '16 12:30:36 PM LadyJaneGrey
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** Uses this in most seasons after ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace''. Generally, there's two dragons - one Starscreamy, and one loyal. Which one ends up on top varies.
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** Uses this Most Dragons in early seasons are loyal, but it is mentioned in a two-part episode that Divatox's mother in ''Series/PowerRangersTurbo'' turned on her husband - patriarch of the pirate clan - and took over. In most seasons after ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace''. that, starting with ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'', the Trope is used often. Generally, there's two dragons Dragons - one Starscreamy, and one loyal. Which one ends up on top varies.

*** Interestingly, out of all the Starscreams in the Power Rangers series, Grizzaka, alongside Astronema and Mandilok above, is one of the few who actually succeed in overthrowing the BigBad (not counting Darkonda, who, despite successfully destroying Dark Specter, was unable to survive his final attack), and after his success, he becomes the ruler of the other evil forces until Dai Shi returns and takes back his throne. *** And after him come the Phantom Beasts. They are actually loyal to Dai Shi - having thought like Grizzaka back in the original war, and now believing they'd have won if they had followed Dai Shi. (Yes, ''villains'' blaming their failure on ''themselves.'' You don't see that every day.) However, they believe Dai Shi has been compromised by the will of Jarrod. *** But before any of them, there was Naja. He made the mistake of trying to recruit Camille, and his Starscreaming career lasted two episodes before ''she'' finished him.
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*** ** Interestingly, out of all the Starscreams in the Power Rangers series, Grizzaka, alongside Astronema and Mandilok above, is one of the few who actually succeed in overthrowing the BigBad (not counting Darkonda, who, despite successfully destroying Dark Specter, was unable to survive his final attack), and after his success, he becomes the ruler of the other evil forces until Dai Shi returns and takes back his throne. *** ** And after him come the Phantom Beasts. They are actually loyal to Dai Shi - having thought like Grizzaka back in the original war, and now believing they'd have won if they had followed Dai Shi. (Yes, ''villains'' blaming their failure on ''themselves.'' You don't see that every day.) However, they believe Dai Shi has been compromised by the will of Jarrod. *** ** But before any of them, there was Naja. He made the mistake of trying to recruit Camille, and his Starscreaming career lasted two episodes before ''she'' finished him.

*** Serrator later turns out to be this.
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*** %%*** Serrator later turns out to be this.
6th Jan '16 7:31:06 PM DuelMark
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* ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. Lieutenant Steel has his eyes set on replacing Commander Feral as leader of The Enforcers. Unlike most examples, Steel is trying to be leader of a heroic organization. Although Steel himself is the least heroic of the Enforcers as he displays all the qualities the Trope Namer has. He is complete suck-up to Feral, even praising his worst ideas, while mocking him behind his back. The moment Feral is out of commission, Steel makes his move, even once abandoning Feral to his fate. And like the Trope Namer, he's a total coward who just want to throw orders. The moment he's forced into being Feral's co-pilot, he reveals he has no combat training and gets airsick in the jet.
4th Jan '16 11:18:02 AM MrThorfan64
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** TheStarscream/ASongOfIceAndFire
31st Dec '15 6:09:41 AM MrThorfan64
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* TheStarscream/{{Literature}}

[[folder:Literature]] * In [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire "A Song of Ice and Fire"]] this is a problem all the great Lords have. However, it's shown that being a Starscream is dangerous, as then your allies can use the same methods and become the new Starscream. ** The Boltons have been the historical enemies of the Starks, who rule the North, rebelling against them on numerous occasions, though the last one was centuries before the books begin. [[spoiler:The feud is re-invigorated when Lord Roose Bolton murders King Robb Stark at the Red Wedding, and the Boltons are rewarded with control of the North by the Lannisters.]] The Freys are this to the Tullys, who rule the Riverlands. Walder Frey is a notroiously untrustworthy and opppurtunistic man with no loyalty to anybody but his House. [[spoiler:He ends up betraying the Tullys and Starks at [[NastyParty the Red Wedding]], breaking guest right in the process, and his second son Emmon Frey is made Lord of Riverrun, the Tully castle. Then deconstructed when it's shown that the Freys are despised by nearly everybody in the Seven Kingdoms for their treachery, many men and members of Noble Houses being murdered at the Red Wedding, and are gradually being murdered, the smallfolk and River Lords not willing to help them.]] Meanwhile in the North the Northern Houses [[spoiler:hate the Boltons and are trying to restore the Starks.]] ** The Florents to the Tyrells, who rule the Reach. The Tyrells were given control of the Reach after the Gardners were wiped out in the Conquest, though this seems to have been more opportunism then a genuine attempt to supplant them. However the Florents believe themselves to have better Gardner descent, joining Stannis, who is married to a Florent, in the hope of increasing their power. [[spoiler:It backfires when Stannis loses the Battle of the Blackwater, the Florents losing control of Brightwater Keep to the Tyrells.]] * The most realistic one to date is Oscar Von Raquianus in the "Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity" series by Solea Razvan. He constantly plots againts his commander Metternich, but more in the sense of an ambitious soldier that's trying to advance his career and will constantly try to outshine his superior and curently hes under one that can handle him. But he does not saboutage Metternich's plans and he also respects him and event admits that he has a lot to learn from his curent commander, at least for now. ** Subverted in that after several fights in which he follows Metternich, he is so impressed with his battle plans and ability to quickly react to the everchanging battlefield that he becomes loyal to him, but only so long as Metternich continues to bring victory. * Visser Three is the Starscream to Visser One in ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}''. Although [[spoiler:he is the primary Big Bad and he does succeed]]. ** Subverted (possibly) in that Visser Three isn't actually working for Visser One, he's working for the Council of Thirteen, whom Visser One [[spoiler:just happens to be betraying]]. ** Tom's Yeerk somewhat also fits this trope. Near the end of the series, after Visser Three is promoted to Visser One, Tom betrays his leader to further his own ambition. * [[spoiler: Fernald (the Hook-Handed Man)]] in ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' during the events of ''The Grim Grotto''. [[spoiler: his fate as of the subsequent book is unknown]] * In Creator/RobertEHoward's "A Witch Shall Be Born", ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian'' joins Olgerd in raiding. When Olgerd drags his heels about attacking Constantius as promised, Conan invokes this trope. * The Psychlo race in ''Literature/BattlefieldEarth'' seems composed of Starscreams to the point that one wonders how they were able to cooperate enough to set up an empire at all. * ''Literature/BlackCompany'' has the Taken, who spend more time sabotaging each other than actually fighting LaResistance. During the Battle of Charm, only Nightcrawler is apparently killed by enemy action: [[spoiler: Shapeshifter is said to have been ''lost under suspicious circumstances'', Stormbringer and Bonegnasher apparently kill each other, The Faceless Man and Moonbiter are assassinated and Soulcatcher openly attacks The Howler.]] Most of them get better. ** Soulcatcher herself is the queen of this trope. her plan in the first novel was to [[spoiler: join the treacherous Taken planning to free the Dominator and play them off against the Taken loyal to the Lady, hoping to end up with the Rebel wizards, the other Taken and the Lady dead, leaving herself as the only person of power in the land, with the Dominator unable to free himself unassisted.]] * In ''Literature/BloodPromise'', as Galina the Strigoi's liutenant, Dimitri schemes to kill her and lay claim to her criminal empire. Eventually he does just that. * An unusual example comes from the ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain''. Originally, Arawn, the dreaded Death Lord and BigBad of the series, was the consort and servant of Queen Achren, the ruler of Prydain in the series backstory, who taught him all of her secret arts. Arawn used this power to betray Achren and become Lord of Annuvin, at which point Achren became The Starscream to ''him.'' * Used interestingly in the ''Literature/ChroniclesOfThomasCovenant''. [[BigBad Lord Foul's]] CoDragons are the three Ravers, who, per the backstory, actually predated his arrival in the Land, but joined up with him and willingly allowed themselves to be DemotedToDragon when he arrived because they were drawn to his power and cunning, and have served him loyally ever since. That said, the dynamic works because Foul is more powerful than the Ravers and they know it- if they ever got their hands on a source of power that gave them the advantage, they'd be more than happy to turn the tables and make Foul ''their'' Dragon, rather than they other way around. This, not incidentally, is why Foul never simply has the Ravers (who are incorporeal [[DemonicPossession possessing]] spirits) possess the main character in order to acquire his CosmicKeystone ring that Foul spends most of the series after- Foul knows far better than to trust his lieutenants with that kind of power, because he knows ''exactly'' what they'd do with it. * The nameless artist in ''Literature/TheDarkIsRising'' novel ''Literature/{{Greenwitch}}''. He plans to retrieve the canister containing the ancient prophecy from the titular Greenwitch, going against the wishes of his masters. It doesn't end well for him. * ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'' features a whole segment dedicated to this, in the ninth and nethermost circle of hell. At first we have Caina, for [[CainAndAbel betrayers of family]]; then Antenora, for betrayers of nation; then Ptolomea, for betrayers of friends; and finally, Judecca, for...this trope. All are in a frozen lake, befitting their "cold-blooded" crimes. Even if [[DefectorFromDecadence you did it because your boss was evil]], you go here. * The wizard Raistlin Majere of the ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' novels was one of the most ambitious, planning to overthrow the all-powerful evil dragon goddess who was the chief villainess of the earlier books and [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence to ascend to godhood]] to take her place. Actually, he wanted to eventually destroy the whole pantheon of Krynn and to become the sole new deity of the world. [[spoiler:He managed it, too, although TimeTravel, a horrifying vision of what would happen to the world if he succeeded, and an appeal from his twin brother stopped him from destroying the world. He chose RedemptionEqualsDeath.]] * Logno in ''Literature/ChapterhouseDune''. She succeeds in killing the Great Honored Matre, but she doesn't enjoy her victory for long. The main Honored Matre force falls shortly afterwards, and she herself dies. * In ''[[Literature/SpaceMarineBattles Fall of Damnos]]'', the Undying gets two Starscreams for price of one: Ankh believes that his overlord is insane, while Tahek the Voidbringer simply believes himself to be a better ruler. The two Starscreams have shades of Starscreamery towards each other as well. * ''The TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' drow (dark elves) are a Starscream PlanetOfHats. Their ChaoticEvil culture and religion are both based on the idea that anybody who can move up a spot via treachery or KlingonPromotion ''deserves'' to do so (and failing to take an obvious opportunity is mistaken for weakness.) Their city governments, their guilds and schools, and even their families are based on the idea that treason is strength and trust is weakness. * Drake from the ''Literature/{{Gone}}'' series seems to serve this role to Caine-though Caine is certainly the mastermind villain, Drake would easily overpower him if he'd been {{blessed|WithSuck}} (or {{cursed|WithAwesome}}) with something better than his weird whip-arm. According to WordOfGod, Caine is sociopathic, while Drake is psychopathic, so they compliment each other's strengths and weaknesses. ** Penny assumes the role after Drake goes rogue and outwits and enslaves the more powerful Caine. Unfortunately, she has not thought beyond her moment of triumph and has no backup plan when Caine's other followers are not impressed. *** Penny is a strange example, seeing as she also happens [[LoveMakesYouCrazy to be in love with Caine]] as well as wanting to overthrow him. * The Consul in Literature/{{Hyperion|Cantos}} is sent to the Ousters to spy on them. He goes there, betrays the whole human race by revealing vital information, and gains the Ousters' trust. Then he hijacks a base, kills the Ouster technicians and fire a weapon designed to destroy the anti-entropic fields surrounding the Time Tombs, thus releasing the Shrike. So he acted as the Starscream to both sides. Then he got sent on the Pilgrimage. The other pilgrims, after realizing this, can't be bothered, because they figure this pilgrimage will kill them anyway, and won't make a difference. * In ''Literature/ILucifer'', Luce is rightly cautious about his absence being known in hell, as he'll likely be usurped. He figures that Astaroth will attempt to move against him should he learn of his "holiday" in typical Starscream fashion. [[spoiler: Instead Uriel, whom Lucifer mistakenly thought loyal, has decided to take leadership and move against heaven whilst Astaroth fights loyally to maintain Satan's throne]]. * Literature/KeysToTheKingdom has [[spoiler:Superior Saturday and the Piper, who both want to oust Lord Sunday and replace him as the new ruler of the House]]. * ''Literature/{{Lensman}}''. This behaviour is actually approved of among the various alien races opposing Civilisation due to TheSocialDarwinist nature of their society. It's believed that if a subordinate does succeed in usurping his superior, then the BigBad was no longer fit to hold the job in the first place. Among the "good" guys, the Palainians operate under this paradigm. Nadreck is loyal because he knows any of his three fellow Second-Stage Lensmen can kick his "spiny tokus" if he tries to cross them - and he'd also have Mentor of Arisia on his case. He can, and gleefully ''does'', use every dirty trick in the book, and more, against the Bad Guys. * Saruman of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Saruman was one of the Istari, agents sent from Valinor to assist the Free Peoples against Sauron. His initial intentions were beneficial; he desired the One Ring from Sauron and planned to use it as a means to permanently defeat him. However, during his time in Middle-earth, Saruman grew more and more proud of himself, and decided he could use his skill as a highly persuasive {{Consummate Liar}} to fool Sauron himself into an alliance, and instead use the One Ring to make ''himself'' the ruler of Middle-earth. Sauron caught on pretty quickly though, and Saruman became so terrified of his wrath that he locked himself in his tower for the majority of the War of the Ring. * Subverted in the second ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' book. [[PsychoForHire Zane]] continually tries to kill his lord [[spoiler: and father]] Straff, but he turns out to have no real desire to succeed- he ''hates'' Straff to be sure, but would rather just let him lead his armies and rule his kingdom, as Zane has no desire to do this himself. The assassination attempts are just because Straff, being in his own way as much of a paranoid psycho as Zane, ''expects'' assassination attempts and Zane simply obliges him. At one point Zane thinks to himself that if he ''really'' wanted Straff dead, [[IfIWantedYouDead Straff would already]] ''be'' dead. [[spoiler: Also, Zane's [[EvenEvilHasStandards one moral]] seems to be that "a man shouldn't kill his father".]] * ''Literature/TheMortalInstruments'': ** [[spoiler:Raphael Santiago. According to Camille, he was the reason she left - he killed mundanes and blamed them on her, causing her to flee. When she did so, he seized her position and told the rest of the New York vampire clan that she was struck with wanderlust and a desire to travel (something that was not unheard of in vampires.)]] %% ** [[spoiler:Valentine saw Luke as this, although he really wasn't]]. * [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast John Dread]] from TadWilliams' ''Literature/{{Otherland}}'' is a PsychoForHire mentored and kept on a short leash by CorruptCorporateExecutive Felix Jongleur, who uses him as a special "enforcer". [[spoiler: As powerful as Jongleur is, he badly underestimates the ambition and cunning of his subordinate, who uses his {{Technopath}} powers to take over control of the Otherland network at the worst possible time for his boss and his plans, and thereby successfully graduates to BigBad.]] * Rupert of Hentzau is this to Black Michael in ''Literature/ThePrisonerOfZenda''. * Quite a lot of ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'''s villains have a Starscream. [[spoiler:Lantur in ''Marlfox'' succeeds.]] ** Zwilt the Shade is another notable one, as he virtually becomes another "main villain" [[spoiler: when he seems to kill Vilaya]]. * ''Literature/TheReynardCycle'': Tybalt, who plays the role of CommanderContrarian to Reynard while waiting for him to trip up so he can kick him while he's down. He's even managed to get away with it once. * Speaker-To-Animals in ''Literature/{{Ringworld}}'', and during the journey to the Ringworld itself, Speaker would pull this shit every ten pages, and each time would be EASILY thwarted by the Puppeteer. It becomes a RunningGag of sorts. * The Kid of Creator/StephenKing's epic ''Literature/TheStand'' aimed to overthrow Randall Flagg. ** Randall Flagg himself, within ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' novels, plots to overthrow [[{{Satan}} the Crimson King]] while at the same time serving as his [[TheDragon Dragon]]. * Collectively, the Sisters of the Dark are sort of like this to Emperor Jagang in the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' series. They're not trying to take over the Order that he runs, so much as pursuing their own goals while enslaved to him. ** Nicci, who was [[BigBad Jagang's]] ''real'' [[TheDragon Dragon]] as [[DarkActionGirl Death's Mistress]], but later does a HighHeelFaceTurn in ''Faith of the Fallen'', where she becomes Richard and the good guys' ally and main BlackMagicianGirl. Before this, though, she saw Jagang as a brute (albeit a [[TheChessmaster brilliant one]]) and since he could no longer enter her mind, constantly planned to eventually become the real [[TheManBehindTheMan evil]]. * [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Joruus C'baoth to Grand Admiral Thrawn]], for the time that they were a BigBadDuumvirate. C'baoth chafed under Thrawn's directions and constantly tried to get around his orders. Thrawn's CommanderContrarian, Captain Pellaeon, even said that [[EvilIsNotAToy taking an insane cloned Jedi Master off his planet and into the Imperial fleet]] was a bad, ''bad'' idea. Thrawn had plans for the stunts C'baoth pulled, but if the two of them hadn't been killed more or less at the same time at the end of the book, it's anyone's guess what would have happened. ** In the ''Comicbook/XWingSeries'', Kirtan Loor gradually moves away from loyal minionhood and towards this. When he's put in charge of the Palpatine Counterinsurgency Front on newly-captured Coruscant while everyone higher-ranked than he is leaves, he gets a lot of autonomy, allowed to harass and terrorize the New Republic any way he wants. Eventually he decides that while he's not an idiot and won't directly oppose [[BigBad Isard]], he's not terrified of her anymore, and she won't live forever. Not long after that thought hits, the head of the organization commissioned to neutralize the Palpatine Counterinsurgency Front tracks him down, but not to bring him to justice, just to get him to hit targets that head wants eliminated. Loor agrees, in part because otherwise he'd be either killed or taken to justice, but thinks that Flirry Vorru, too, won't live forever. At the end of [[spoiler: The Krytos Trap]] he does actually turn against them, but to try and seek sanctuary with the New Republic in exchange for some [[HisNameIs information]]. It doesn't work out. ** ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' has several conspiracies, each of them consisting of villains constantly trying to overthrow the others, or [[YouHaveFailedMe discarding them when their services are no longer required]]. The Lost Tribe of the Sith (notice a pattern?) in particular want to learn what they can from [[EldritchAbomination Abeloth]] and then [[NeverSayDie discard her]]. ** During ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear'', the series' BigBad, [[MadScientist Borborygmus Gog]], is in the payroll of the Emperor, which he's fine with, and often subject to scrutiny and criticism from Darth Vader, which he definitely resents, but the Sith Lord is the Emperor's ranking representative. Gog adjusts elements of his big project, trying to figure out a way around TheForce that is Vader's biggest advantage. The project's name? Project Starscream. * Literature/TrappedOnDraconica: [[EvilGenius Lucia]] plans to overthrow [[BigBad Gothon]] for reasons he will not disclose. [[spoiler: This is because he doesn't know them. Kazebar is possessing him.]] * In Creator/AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/{{Warlock}} Forerunner Foray]]'', Ogan finds Ziantha after her return from the past. He tells her that [[SpacePirates the Jack]] is holding Yasa captive as a hostage, but he doesn't think he'll trade either the stones or Ziantha for her. * In a way, Scourge of the ''Literature/WarriorCats'' series is a Starscream, as he's generally treated as an underling by Tigerstar before [[spoiler: slitting his throat and killing him nine times over with the emotion one would reserve for swatting a fly.]] ** Brokenstar served as this to Raggedstar and pulled it off successfully ** Tigerstar was this before even becoming second in command by plotting and eventually killing the second-in command, and then after that tried to kill off Bluestar numerous times, all of them failed, with the final time resulting in exile. * Lanfear in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' schemes to overthrow [[{{Satan}} the Dark One]], and still has a thing for main character (and old boyfriend) Rand al'Thor, the Dragon Reborn. Despite playing TheDragon to the Dark One's BigBad, she's pretty solidly on the side of the good guys in the first few books - she imagines that, teamed up with Rand, they'd be unstoppable. [[note]]''All'' the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Forsaken]] and many [[ReligionOfEvil Darkfriends]] have ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and are practically ''encouraged'' to scheme against their immediate superiors. Lanfear's apparently the only one with the guts to scheme against the Dark One himself, however, and spends most of her early appearances protecting Rand from other Forsaken with the hopes that someday they'll be able to use a pair of {{amplifier artifact}}s, one of which is usable only by men and the other only by women, to overthrow the Dark One and set themselves up as {{god emperor}}s- with herself the dominant of the pair, of course. When Rand emphatically rejects her, she [[VillainousBreakdown doesn't take it well]].[[/note]] ** ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' also has Padan Fain, a Gollum / Agent Smith style wild card who's got a major grudge against both the Light side (Dragon Reborn) and the Dark side (the Dark One), and who (being empowered by Shadar Logoth) is enough of a threat to pull it off. ** There's also Mazrim Taim, the leader of the Asha'man in [[TheChosenOne Rand's]] absence. While Rand has been off ignoring the Asha'man, Taim has been asserting control for no doubt [[DevilInPlainSight nefarious]] purposes. Not that anyone except [[GenreSavvy Logain]] seems to realise this. Taim visibly has to restrain himself when Rand presents him with a pin (as a mark of honour) because it places Taim on the same level as the other Asha'man. He names himself the 'M'hael' (leader), acquires a coat with dragons emblazoned on the sleeves in mimickry of the tattoos on Rand's arms that mark him as the Dragon Reborn, builds himself a palace and chooses Asha'man for private lessons to form his own personal army. [[spoiler: However, it's ultimately revealed that Taim is, in fact, a darkfriend himself, making him TheMole rather than this trope]]. ** Sgorr from ''Litearture/{{Fire Bringer}}'' starts off as this but at the end of part one, he brings his master Drial to a cliff where Drial suffers a [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident "Tragic Accident"]] after that Sgorr becomes the [[EvilOverlord Lord of the Herds]] [[/folder]]
30th Dec '15 4:55:14 PM Wyldchyld
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** Renkotsu was stealing jewel shards, even from his team mates, to acquire enough power to defeat his leader, Bankotsu. Bankotsu knew what he was up to, but held back to see if Renkotsu could redeem himself. When Bankotsu does kill Renkotsu it's to demonstrate that, even with several jewel shards, Renkotsu was no match for him.
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** Renkotsu was stealing steals jewel shards, even from his team mates, to acquire enough power to defeat his leader, Bankotsu. Bankotsu knew knows what he was is up to, but held holds back to see if Renkotsu could can redeem himself. When Bankotsu does kill Renkotsu it's to demonstrate that, even with several jewel shards, Renkotsu was is no match for him.
30th Dec '15 4:54:06 PM Wyldchyld
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Word cruft and sinkholes, so rewrote.
** The Band of Seven experienced this. Renkotsu planned on betraying his leader Bankotsu by acquiring enough jewel shards to become powerful enough to defeat him, including stealing Jakotsu's jewel shard (ensuring his death). As it turned out [[GenreSavvy Bankotsu knew of Renkotsu's treasonous intentions]], but [[LastSecondChance wanted to give him a chance to redeem himself.]] Ultimately Bankotsu ended up killing Renkotsu, proving that he was never a real threat to him; Bankotsu even helped Renkotsu acquire all the jewel shards in his possession just to show his superiority over him and the futility of his efforts ''and'' also claimed a superior sense morality before ending Renkotsu's life, exposing him as a complete and utter failure. (It doesn't help that, well, Renkotsu killed Jakotsu, who was [[NumberTwo Bankotsu's best friend]] and [[UndyingLoyalty completely devoted to him.]]; that was [[ItsPersonal the final push/excuse]] that Bankotsu needed to go against him.)
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** The Band of Seven experienced this. Renkotsu planned on betraying was stealing jewel shards, even from his leader Bankotsu by acquiring team mates, to acquire enough jewel shards to become powerful enough power to defeat him, including stealing Jakotsu's jewel shard (ensuring his death). As it turned out [[GenreSavvy leader, Bankotsu. Bankotsu knew of Renkotsu's treasonous intentions]], what he was up to, but [[LastSecondChance wanted held back to give him a chance to see if Renkotsu could redeem himself.]] Ultimately himself. When Bankotsu ended up killing Renkotsu, proving that he was never a real threat to him; Bankotsu even helped does kill Renkotsu acquire all the it's to demonstrate that, even with several jewel shards in his possession just to show his superiority over him and the futility of his efforts ''and'' also claimed a superior sense morality before ending Renkotsu's life, exposing him as a complete and utter failure. (It doesn't help that, well, shards, Renkotsu killed Jakotsu, who was [[NumberTwo Bankotsu's best friend]] and [[UndyingLoyalty completely devoted to no match for him.]]; that was [[ItsPersonal the final push/excuse]] that Bankotsu needed to go against him.)
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