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9th Aug '16 7:17:29 PM RighteousFury
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3382069/1/Katara Katara]]'', an ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' GenderFlip version of ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' has [[spoiler:Mai, in the Iago role, successfully usurp control of Toph the Genie, from Azula/Jafar and takes up the role of BigBad for the remainder of the story]].
9th Aug '16 10:08:44 AM HighCrate
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If The Starscream ''succeeds'' in taking over the mantle of BigBad from his superior, the former BigBad may have actually been a DiscOneFinalBoss. If he was consistently portrayed as the more dangerous or important of the two to begin with, then he's also a DragonInChief. If it turns out that TheDragon was the true BigBad all along, using his "boss" as a decoy or puppet for his schemes, then he is TheManInFrontOfTheMan.

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If The Starscream ''succeeds'' in taking over the mantle of BigBad from his superior, the former BigBad may have actually been a DiscOneFinalBoss. If he was consistently portrayed as the more dangerous or important of the two to begin with, then he's also a DragonInChief. If it turns out that TheDragon the apparent [[TheDragon Dragon]] was the true BigBad all along, using his "boss" as a decoy or puppet for his schemes, then he is TheManInFrontOfTheMan.
29th Jul '16 5:28:04 AM Morgenthaler
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** Ba'al who was supposedly in the service of Anubis while he was in fact trying to topple him and take his place. This led him to cooperate with SG-1 to stop Anubis from obtaining a weapon that would give him power over the entire galaxy. Notably, Ba'al betrayed Anubis in this manner ''twice''. Ba'al also stuck around to continue playing The Starscream in the Ori story arc, scheming to undermine the Ori's Take Over the Galaxy plot so that ''he'' could be the one to Take Over the Galaxy. And despite perpetually making himself a nuisance or worse to much more powerful {{Big Bad}}s, Ba'al managed to outlast them all, mostly through being DangerouslyGenreSavvy.

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** Ba'al who was supposedly in the service of Anubis while he was in fact trying to topple him and take his place. This led him to cooperate with SG-1 to stop Anubis from obtaining a weapon that would give him power over the entire galaxy. Notably, Ba'al betrayed Anubis in this manner ''twice''. Ba'al also stuck around to continue playing The Starscream in the Ori story arc, scheming to undermine the Ori's Take Over the Galaxy plot so that ''he'' could be the one to Take Over the Galaxy. And despite perpetually making himself a nuisance or worse to much more powerful {{Big Bad}}s, Ba'al managed to outlast them all, mostly through being DangerouslyGenreSavvy.incredibly self-aware.
9th Jul '16 1:36:24 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''

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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}''''Toys/{{Bionicle}}''
5th Jul '16 8:43:23 PM merotoker
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* In MarvelComics continuity, Shockwave (who ironically, shows UndyingLoyalty to Megatron in the animated version) usurped command of the Decepticons and was an effective leader during one arc, not because he was greedy or power-hungry, but because he felt "logic dictated" he could lead them better.

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* In MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics continuity, Shockwave (who ironically, shows UndyingLoyalty to Megatron in the animated version) usurped command of the Decepticons and was an effective leader during one arc, not because he was greedy or power-hungry, but because he felt "logic dictated" he could lead them better.



** In the sequel ''VideoGame/TransformersFallOfCybertron'', right after Megatron's been pounded into a crater by [[HumongousMecha Metroplex]], Starscream does what he does best and [[ItsWhatIDo assumes command.]] The next time we see him, he's in charge of launching an assault on a energon hauler, via an airstrike. Only problem is, the transport is outfitted with a myriad of anti-air weaponry. [[CurbStompBattle You can see where this is going...]] Plus, he was previously told about the AA guns, and he [[BullyingADragon chooses to attack with the air assault anyway.]] Then when the Combaticons manage to salvage the mission, at a cost of half the energon, whereas without them, he would have gotten none of it, [[UngratefulBastard he has them arrested for insubordination]]. But it's what he does with the leftover energon that really takes the cake: [[{{Egopolis}} he uses it all to build enormous golden statues of himself, broadcast self-glorifying speeches, and anyone who doesn't like his leadership will be thrown in the jails. (which is a majority of the Decepticon army.]] A [[BackFromTheDead newly-revived Megatron]] says it best:

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** In the sequel ''VideoGame/TransformersFallOfCybertron'', right after Megatron's been pounded into a crater by [[HumongousMecha Metroplex]], Starscream does what he does best and [[ItsWhatIDo assumes command.]] The next time we see him, he's in charge of launching an assault on a an energon hauler, via an airstrike. Only problem is, the transport is outfitted with a myriad of anti-air weaponry. [[CurbStompBattle You can see where this is going...]] Plus, he was previously told about the AA guns, and he [[BullyingADragon chooses to attack with the air assault anyway.]] Then when the Combaticons manage to salvage the mission, at a cost of half the energon, whereas without them, he would have gotten none of it, [[UngratefulBastard he has them arrested for insubordination]]. But it's what he does with the leftover energon that really takes the cake: [[{{Egopolis}} he uses it all to build enormous golden statues of himself, broadcast self-glorifying speeches, and anyone who doesn't like his leadership will be thrown in the jails. (which is a majority of the Decepticon army.]] A [[BackFromTheDead newly-revived Megatron]] says it best:



* ''CodeGeass'': For most of the series, Prince Schneizel el Britannia appears just to be TheDragon to his father [[BigBad Emperor Charles]], and shows no signs of disloyalty. However, as soon as other senior figures in the Britannian Imperial government begin to doubt the Emperor, Schneizel jumps at the chance to take the throne for himself.

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* ''CodeGeass'': ''Anime/CodeGeass'': For most of the series, Prince Schneizel el Britannia appears just to be TheDragon to his father [[BigBad Emperor Charles]], and shows no signs of disloyalty. However, as soon as other senior figures in the Britannian Imperial government begin to doubt the Emperor, Schneizel jumps at the chance to take the throne for himself.



* In the two-episode OVA version of ''Anime/MezzoForte'', [[spoiler:it's revealed that the old man who hired Mikura and her crew to kidnap a powerful mob boss, was actually the mob boss' dragon in disguise and was trying to take over the organization. Things seem to go well when the mob boss dies by accident, but Mikura and her crew already knew that the old man wasn't who he seemed, because when the old man went through their security system during their first meeting, they saw the body didn't match that of an old man.]]

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* In the two-episode OVA version of ''Anime/MezzoForte'', [[spoiler:it's revealed that the old man who hired Mikura and her crew to kidnap a powerful mob boss, was actually the mob boss' dragon in disguise and was trying to take over the organization. Things seem to go well when the mob boss dies by accident, but Mikura and her crew already knew that the old man wasn't who he seemed, because when the old man went through their security system during their first meeting, they saw the body didn't match that of an old man.]]man]].



* [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Weasel]] of ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'' fame (during the latter's VillainProtagonist arcs). He's nowhere near as scared of Deadpool as someone with his proximity and history should be, and Deadpool speculates in front of him that he might be one of these - but he's just too useful to kill.

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* [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Weasel]] of ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'' fame (during the latter's VillainProtagonist arcs). He's nowhere near as scared of Deadpool as someone with his proximity and history should be, and Deadpool speculates in front of him that he might be one of these - but he's just too useful to kill.



* In a straight up subversion Alexander Luthor from DC's ''CrisisCrossover'' ''Comicbook/InfiniteCrisis'' knew that it is generally impossible for ''anybody'' to control somebody that's as [[AxCrazy insane]] as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker so he did not even try. The Joker was VERY unhappy that he was not picked for the team as Luthor eventually found out.

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* In a straight up subversion Alexander Luthor from DC's ''CrisisCrossover'' ''Comicbook/InfiniteCrisis'' knew that it is generally impossible for ''anybody'' to control somebody that's as [[AxCrazy insane]] as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker so he did not even try. The Joker was VERY unhappy that he was not picked for the team as Luthor eventually found out.



* In Matt Wagner's ''Comicbook/MageTheHeroDiscovered'', [[spoiler: Emil Grackleflint]]
* In the Fleetway ''Comicbook/SonicTheComic'' series, Robotnik also had to fight against Commander Brutus, a robot with an indestructible body and a copy of his own brain patterns, who started off as Robotnik's [[TheDragon Dragon]] and then rebelled against him. Robotnik himself was briefly The Starscream when he was allied with the [[TheEmpire Drakon Empire]] and and then to Princess Kupacious both times he succeeded.

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* In Matt Wagner's ''Comicbook/MageTheHeroDiscovered'', [[spoiler: Emil Grackleflint]]
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* In the Fleetway ''Comicbook/SonicTheComic'' series, Robotnik also had to fight against Commander Brutus, a robot with an indestructible body and a copy of his own brain patterns, who started off as Robotnik's [[TheDragon Dragon]] and then rebelled against him. Robotnik himself was briefly The Starscream when he was allied with the [[TheEmpire Drakon Empire]] and and then to Princess Kupacious both times he succeeded.



* Creator/MarvelComics' Fabian Cortez plays the trope straight, betraying ComicBook/{{Magneto}} and "[[DeathIsCheap killing]]" him. Magneto later [[WelcomeBackTraitor took him back in his ranks]] out of need for his abilities, but [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness promptly took his revenge when he no longer needed him]].
* The Kingpin's son Richard usually works for him, but there have been times he has tried to oppose him secretly, usually taking the masked identity of the Rose (and later the Blood Rose, a more martial and violent version of the previous identity). Richard eventually tried to convince his mother to help him, [[spoiler: but her loyalty to her husband was far greater than it was to her son; she shot him in cold blood.]]

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* Creator/MarvelComics' Fabian Cortez plays the trope straight, betraying ComicBook/{{Magneto}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} and "[[DeathIsCheap killing]]" him. Magneto later [[WelcomeBackTraitor took him back in his ranks]] out of need for his abilities, but [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness promptly took his revenge when he no longer needed him]].
* The Kingpin's ComicBook/TheKingpin's son Richard usually works for him, but there have been times he has tried to oppose him secretly, usually taking the masked identity of the Rose (and later the Blood Rose, a more martial and violent version of the previous identity). Richard eventually tried to convince his mother to help him, [[spoiler: but her loyalty to her husband was far greater than it was to her son; she shot him in cold blood.]]



* In ''FanFic/FeverDreams'' [[Manga/DeathNote Light]] [[ExploitedTrope exploits this trope]] [[spoiler: [[ConfessToALesserCrime when cornered]] [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie he tells the investigators that he was coerced into working for]] [[TheManBehindTheMan the REAL Kira]] and then betrayed him and though he conveniently can't go into details, he has now backed Kira into a corner so he can't kill anymore. L realizes to his frustration that he can't prove it either way.]]

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* In ''FanFic/FeverDreams'' [[Manga/DeathNote Light]] [[ExploitedTrope exploits this trope]] [[spoiler: [[ConfessToALesserCrime when cornered]] [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie he tells the investigators that he was coerced into working for]] [[TheManBehindTheMan the REAL Kira]] and then betrayed him and though he conveniently can't go into details, he has now backed Kira into a corner so he can't kill anymore. L realizes to his frustration that he can't prove it either way.]] way]].



* In ''FanFic/TheTeacherOfAllThings'', Machinedramon[[spoiler:/Neo Saiba's Metalgreymon]] is this towards Piedmon and [[BiggerBad Apocalymon]]. [[spoiler:While he succeeds in his BatmanGambit to use the Digidestined and Metalseadramon's forces to take out Piedmon, his plans to defeat Apocalymon require the use of the [[Manga/DigimonVTamer01 Digi-Mental]], which Tai no longer possesses or has knowledge of its location.]]

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* In ''FanFic/TheTeacherOfAllThings'', Machinedramon[[spoiler:/Neo Saiba's Metalgreymon]] is this towards Piedmon and [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Apocalymon]]. [[spoiler:While he succeeds in his BatmanGambit to use the Digidestined and Metalseadramon's forces to take out Piedmon, his plans to defeat Apocalymon require the use of the [[Manga/DigimonVTamer01 Digi-Mental]], which Tai no longer possesses or has knowledge of its location.]]



** In the book, [[spoiler: Glozelle is the one who stabs Miraz to death, as revenge for his ex-leader insulting him before the duel with Peter takes place. Both him and Sopesian end up killed in battle.]]

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** In the book, [[spoiler: Glozelle is the one who stabs Miraz to death, as revenge for his ex-leader insulting him before the duel with Peter takes place. Both him and Sopesian end up killed in battle.]]battle]].



* Captain Frye from ''Film/TheRock'' becomes the [[TrueFinalBoss true]] BigBad of the movie after [[spoiler: he and his accomplice Captain Darrow kill Hummel and Baxter.]]

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* Captain Frye from ''Film/TheRock'' becomes the [[TrueFinalBoss true]] BigBad of the movie after [[spoiler: he and his accomplice Captain Darrow kill Hummel and Baxter.]]Baxter]].



** Plays with this trope in an interesting way, in that Percy -- the BigBad of the show-- is himself The Starscream to his superiors in [[BiggerBad Oversight]]; he stopped being loyal to them years ago, and keeps secret documentation of all the government's dirty secrets prepped to be released upon his death, thus insuring that they can't assassinate him without bringing down the whole government (them primarily).

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** Plays with this trope in an interesting way, in that Percy -- the BigBad of the show-- is himself The Starscream to his superiors in [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Oversight]]; he stopped being loyal to them years ago, and keeps secret documentation of all the government's dirty secrets prepped to be released upon his death, thus insuring that they can't assassinate him without bringing down the whole government (them primarily).



** Astronema herself was a Starscream after being brainwashed by Darkonda on the orders of Dark Specter. (Clearly, that worked [[GoneHorriblyRight only too well.]]) Using the Psycho Rangers had two purposes: fighting the true Rangers (obviously) and weakening the Dark Specter. She intentionally connected their powers to his, hoping that their frequent battles with the Rangers would weaken him enough for her to destroy him and usurp his position as leader of the alliance. Unfortunately for Astronema, the Psycho Rangers were impatient and unwilling to follow her plans, which led to them being defeated before this plan could succeed. She did succeed in usurping his position after the original starscream Darkonda destroyed Dark Specter and was [[TakingYouWithMe destroyed in the proces.s]]

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** Astronema herself was a Starscream after being brainwashed by Darkonda on the orders of Dark Specter. (Clearly, that worked [[GoneHorriblyRight only too well.]]) Using the Psycho Rangers had two purposes: fighting the true Rangers (obviously) and weakening the Dark Specter. She intentionally connected their powers to his, hoping that their frequent battles with the Rangers would weaken him enough for her to destroy him and usurp his position as leader of the alliance. Unfortunately for Astronema, the Psycho Rangers were impatient and unwilling to follow her plans, which led to them being defeated before this plan could succeed. She did succeed in usurping his position after the original starscream Darkonda destroyed Dark Specter and was [[TakingYouWithMe destroyed in the proces.s]]process.]]



** Vrak from ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'', on top of already being the DragonInChief who puts most of the villains' plans into motion, claims to be this when he takes advantage of Admiral Malkor going into his coccoon state late in the season to further his schemes. That said, he never really takes any action against Malkor (though the Rangers don't give him much of a chance), and the fact that it takes so long for him to even ''claim'' to make a move ironically makes him much more loyal than his incredibly treacherous ''Goseiger'' counterpart below.

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** Vrak from ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'', on top of already being the DragonInChief who puts most of the villains' plans into motion, claims to be this when he takes advantage of Admiral Malkor going into his coccoon cocoon state late in the season to further his schemes. That said, he never really takes any action against Malkor (though the Rangers don't give him much of a chance), and the fact that it takes so long for him to even ''claim'' to make a move ironically makes him much more loyal than his incredibly treacherous ''Goseiger'' counterpart below.



** Season 6 gives us [[spoiler:Castiel, the local SixthRangerTraitor. He and Crowley hatch a plan to set themselves up as the new God and Lucifer, respectively. Their alliance hits a few snags, and ultimately Cas becomes God, but Crowley does not become Lucifer.]]

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** Season 6 gives us [[spoiler:Castiel, the local SixthRangerTraitor. He and Crowley hatch a plan to set themselves up as the new God and Lucifer, respectively. Their alliance hits a few snags, and ultimately Cas becomes God, but Crowley does not become Lucifer.]]Lucifer]].



** In the New Testament Judas, of course, betrays Jesus for some silver. Jesus, being the son of God, was aware that Judas was planning to betray him but let it happen BecauseDestinySaysSo.
*** YMMV, according to the Gospel of Judas, Jesus requested Judas to betray him, as Judas was the only disciple who truly understood his message.

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** In the New Testament Judas, of course, betrays Jesus for some silver. Jesus, being the son of God, was aware that Judas was planning to betray him but let it happen BecauseDestinySaysSo.
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BecauseDestinySaysSo. YMMV, according to the Gospel of Judas, Jesus requested Judas to betray him, as Judas was the only disciple who truly understood his message.
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** [[spoiler: Amelissan]] from ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal]]'' fits the bill nicely. [[spoiler: While Bhaal could foresee his death, he did not realize his head priestess would be happy to take his place as the goddess of murder instead of reviving him. You'd think a name like Amelissan [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the Black-Hearted]] would have given him a clue.]]

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** [[spoiler: Amelissan]] from ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal]]'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIIThroneOfBhaal'' fits the bill nicely. [[spoiler: While Bhaal could foresee his death, he did not realize his head priestess would be happy to take his place as the goddess of murder instead of reviving him. You'd think a name like Amelissan [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the Black-Hearted]] would have given him a clue.]]



* Jade, Emperor Zog's second-in-command in ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireI'', [[spoiler:who helps Ryu and his allies throughout the game disguised as a thinly veiled cloaked man with a color swap --- in the process dropping big hints on how Ryu can fight the Dark Dragon Empire right down to letting Ryu know about a weapon (a bottled song named 'D.Hrt') that reduces Zog's HP by half in one blow (and Ryu's to 1). After Zog is defeated, Jade reveals himself, having set Ryu up to defeat Zog to obtain the Goddess Myria's powers all for himself.]] Later on, [[spoiler:Jade's hints potentially end up stabbing himself in the foot --- if the player defeated Zog the hard way without D.Hrt, he/she can instead use it against the mind-controlled Sara (who Jade kidnaps at the start of the game and had kept around for his own purposes) when she transforms into a Dragon and fights the party. This reduces ''her'' HP (and as usual, Ryu's) to 1, instead of half.]]

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* Jade, Emperor Zog's second-in-command in ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireI'', [[spoiler:who helps Ryu and his allies throughout the game disguised as a thinly veiled cloaked man with a color swap --- in the process dropping big hints on how Ryu can fight the Dark Dragon Empire right down to letting Ryu know about a weapon (a bottled song named 'D.Hrt') that reduces Zog's HP by half in one blow (and Ryu's to 1). After Zog is defeated, Jade reveals himself, having set Ryu up to defeat Zog to obtain the Goddess Myria's powers all for himself.]] himself]]. Later on, [[spoiler:Jade's hints potentially end up stabbing himself in the foot --- if the player defeated Zog the hard way without D.Hrt, he/she can instead use it against the mind-controlled Sara (who Jade kidnaps at the start of the game and had kept around for his own purposes) when she transforms into a Dragon and fights the party. This reduces ''her'' HP (and as usual, Ryu's) to 1, instead of half.]]half]].



* In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', Benny is this to Mr. House, planning to use the Platinum Chip to take over New Vegas. House is fully aware of Benny's plan, but can't really do anything by himself. That's where you come in. It's later possible to be this to Mr. House with the help of Yes Man, who's originally Benny's trump card. Yes Man himself [[spoiler:subverts this in the ending, where he states that he'll be upgrading himself to be more "Assertive". This actually means that he'll be making sure that only the Courier can give him orders so that he can't be used against you.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', Benny is this to Mr. House, planning to use the Platinum Chip to take over New Vegas. House is fully aware of Benny's plan, but can't really do anything by himself. That's where you come in. It's later possible to be this to Mr. House with the help of Yes Man, who's originally Benny's trump card. Yes Man himself [[spoiler:subverts this in the ending, where he states that he'll be upgrading himself to be more "Assertive". This actually means that he'll be making sure that only the Courier can give him orders so that he can't be used against you.]]you]].



** Kuja, like Kefka, in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', in much the same manner. For most of the game, Kuja's actual intent is to [[spoiler:enslave a powerful eidolon and use it to overthrow Garland as ruler of Terra, seizing control of both worlds himself.]]

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** Kuja, like Kefka, in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', in much the same manner. For most of the game, Kuja's actual intent is to [[spoiler:enslave a powerful eidolon and use it to overthrow Garland as ruler of Terra, seizing control of both worlds himself.]]himself]].



** Gharnef is this to Medeus in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Archanea games.]] But because he carries a magic tome that gives him NighInvulnerability that not even Medeus could remove and Medeus himself could only be defeated a sword that only Marth can wield, Gharnef serves Medeus obdiently while plotting to overthrow Medeus.

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** Gharnef is this to Medeus in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Archanea games.]] But because he carries a magic tome that gives him NighInvulnerability that not even Medeus could remove and Medeus himself could only be defeated a sword that only Marth can wield, Gharnef serves Medeus obdiently obediently while plotting to overthrow Medeus.



* [[MadScientist Urpgor]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' intends to claim the titular MacGuffin for himself, betray and overthrow his master [[BigBad Zordrak]] and crown himself [[EvilOverlord Lord of Nightmares]]. A very unusual kind of character from a show that has been accused of [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting too sweet]]

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* [[MadScientist Urpgor]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' intends to claim the titular MacGuffin for himself, betray and overthrow his master [[BigBad Zordrak]] and crown himself [[EvilOverlord Lord of Nightmares]]. A very unusual kind of character from a show that has been accused of [[TastesLikeDiabetes tasting too sweet]]sweet]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Chaotic}}'', Lord Van Bloot is a lieutenant of Chaor, supreme ruler of the Underworld, that really wants the bigger chair. The latest sets in the card game reveals [[spoiler: that he has allied with the M'arillians to achieve his goals of ruling the Underworld (even thought that would just make him a mere governor if the M'arillians succeed in taking Perim).]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Chaotic}}'', Lord Van Bloot is a lieutenant of Chaor, supreme ruler of the Underworld, that really wants the bigger chair. The latest sets in the card game reveals [[spoiler: that he has allied with the M'arillians to achieve his goals of ruling the Underworld (even thought that would just make him a mere governor if the M'arillians succeed in taking Perim).]]Perim)]].



* On ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', the Lead Eliminator eventually tires of taking orders and tries to revolt. He promptly gets "unmade". [[spoiler: Though he eventually comes back as a OneWingedAngel, the true villain of the special]].

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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', the Lead Eliminator eventually tires of taking orders and tries to revolt. He promptly gets "unmade". [[spoiler: Though he eventually comes back as a OneWingedAngel, the true villain of the special]].special.]]
30th Jun '16 6:39:50 AM nighttrainfm
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** Starscream was shockingly proactive, almost succeeding in assassinating Megatron in the first episode and finding himself on Megatron's bad side immediately after. Then in the season two finale, [[spoiler:his clones do this to him]]. Oh, the irony. Unlike most of his other incarnations, Megatron has essentially no tolerance for Starscream in this setting. In fact, [[spoiler:since Starscream is immortal due to an Allspark fragment,]] Megatron kills him several times over, but Starscream did get the last laugh on Megatron in the finale. [[spoiler: [[KilledOffForReal Posthumously]]]].

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** Starscream was shockingly proactive, almost succeeding in assassinating Megatron in the first episode and finding himself on Megatron's bad side immediately after. Then in the season two finale, [[spoiler:his clones do this to him]]. Oh, the irony. Unlike most of his other incarnations, Megatron has essentially no tolerance for Starscream in this setting. In fact, [[spoiler:since Starscream is immortal due to an Allspark fragment,]] Megatron kills him several times over, but Starscream did get the last laugh on Megatron in the finale. [[spoiler: [[KilledOffForReal Posthumously]]]].Posthumously]].]]
24th Jun '16 8:49:57 PM SoapheadChurch
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Differs from the ReliableTraitor in not always working for the Big Bad and in his reasons for working with the villain (if indeed he does so).

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Differs from the ReliableTraitor in not always working for the Big Bad and in his reasons for working with the villain (if indeed he does so).
19th Jun '16 3:23:02 PM Ramidel
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* Dalton from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', who seems all too eager to usurp the throne the first chance he gets.
19th Jun '16 2:52:23 PM nombretomado
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* On top of being a DirtyCoward, Twp'atwt from the ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' reveals himself to be this during the Black Cats' attack on HQ; while he had previously appeared loyal, it turns out that he and his lover - Serna Tjan - are planning to overthrow the Bracket Fungus and the rest of the Cats after they've taken over, leaving Twp and Serna as leaders of the PPC. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for them, they run into [[TheWoobie Blue Photon]] and [[TheThrawnTrilogy the Mysterious]] [[PhysicalGod Somebody]] respectively shortly after this revelation, resulting in their {{Karmic Death}}s.]] This was also hinted at in the prior story, ''The Reorganisation'', when Twp'atwt attempted to blackmail the Nightshade and Orchid into [[spoiler:making a clone of the Mysterious Somebody that would obey Twp's every command.]]

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* On top of being a DirtyCoward, Twp'atwt from the ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' reveals himself to be this during the Black Cats' attack on HQ; while he had previously appeared loyal, it turns out that he and his lover - Serna Tjan - are planning to overthrow the Bracket Fungus and the rest of the Cats after they've taken over, leaving Twp and Serna as leaders of the PPC. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for them, they run into [[TheWoobie Blue Photon]] and [[TheThrawnTrilogy [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy the Mysterious]] [[PhysicalGod Somebody]] respectively shortly after this revelation, resulting in their {{Karmic Death}}s.]] This was also hinted at in the prior story, ''The Reorganisation'', when Twp'atwt attempted to blackmail the Nightshade and Orchid into [[spoiler:making a clone of the Mysterious Somebody that would obey Twp's every command.]]
11th Jun '16 8:57:48 PM Blueeyedrat
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* ''VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot'''s President Haltmann has ''two'', who turn against him at the same time and end up becoming each others' SpannerInTheWorks. At the end of the game, Haltmann plugs himself into [[spoiler:[[RealityWarper Star Dream]], his company's supercomputer]], only for [[spoiler:his assistant Susie]] to swipe the controls from him at the last second [[spoiler:[[OnlyInItForTheMoney so she can sell Star Dream for massive profit]]]]. Immediately afterwards, [[spoiler:[[AIIsACrapshoot Star Dream itself]] activates, takes control of Haltmann, and [[OmnicidalManiac decides to eliminate all organic life from the universe]]]]. The former, in turn, resorts to an EnemyMine with Kirby to stop the latter.
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