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28th Apr '17 6:44:43 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* First Order stormtroopers in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' are said to be trained that way since childhood, plus of course political indoctrination.


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* Inquisitors, especially the High ones (those that have supernatural powers) in ''TabletopGame/AnimaBeyondFantasy'', are said to suffer since childhood a training so hard, including of course religious indoctrination, that few survive the ordeal -those less worthy end up as guards of the place-
16th Apr '17 2:42:46 PM nombretomado
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** For the Literature/SpaceWolves, ''dying'' is actually a prerequisite for joining. Their homeworld of Fenris is kept in a primitive state, encouraging inter-tribal warfare among its Viking-like societies. Sufficiently valorous young warriors who fall in battle are taken from the field, revived, and subjected to the usual Space Marine testing process. On top of this, the would-be Space Wolf must also learn to master his inner beast, lest he degenerate into a lupine abomination. Unlike other chapters, the Space Wolves group their newest members into fully-armored Blood Claw packs, headstrong young glory hounds seeking to distinguish themselves and earn promotion. Their scout equivalents are actually older, more experienced warriors. This also continues all the way through their career; Space Wolf packs are set in stone at the Bloodclaw stage and they can never replace lost squad members. This is why Bloodclaws usually number 15-20, Grey Hunters (the next step) having from 10-5, and the eldest Longfangs having just barely 5 man squads; centuries of war prune the weaker members of the pack, leaving only the exceptionally strong. Lone Wolves are those who lost their entire pack to a random disaster, and have gone insane from the experience (and, along with Wolf Guards, are the only exceptions) and isolation.

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** For the Literature/SpaceWolves, [[Literature/SpaceWolf Space Wolves]], ''dying'' is actually a prerequisite for joining. Their homeworld of Fenris is kept in a primitive state, encouraging inter-tribal warfare among its Viking-like societies. Sufficiently valorous young warriors who fall in battle are taken from the field, revived, and subjected to the usual Space Marine testing process. On top of this, the would-be Space Wolf must also learn to master his inner beast, lest he degenerate into a lupine abomination. Unlike other chapters, the Space Wolves group their newest members into fully-armored Blood Claw packs, headstrong young glory hounds seeking to distinguish themselves and earn promotion. Their scout equivalents are actually older, more experienced warriors. This also continues all the way through their career; Space Wolf packs are set in stone at the Bloodclaw stage and they can never replace lost squad members. This is why Bloodclaws usually number 15-20, Grey Hunters (the next step) having from 10-5, and the eldest Longfangs having just barely 5 man squads; centuries of war prune the weaker members of the pack, leaving only the exceptionally strong. Lone Wolves are those who lost their entire pack to a random disaster, and have gone insane from the experience (and, along with Wolf Guards, are the only exceptions) and isolation.
9th Apr '17 5:45:36 PM nombretomado
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* Harsh training methods are common for all trying to become a warrior of Athena in ''SaintSeiya''. Some aspiring Saints get off lucky, and get to train one-on-one with a benevolent (or, at worst, indifferent) master such as [[OldMaster Libra Dohko]], Eagle Marin, or the [[AnIcePerson Crystal Saint]]. But the vast, ''vast'' majority are sent to training camps where they must compete for the right to don the sacred Cloth... if not for their very ''lives''. Andromeda Island and especially Athena's Sanctuary have {{Death Course}}s where battalions of trainees must survive both daily combat as well as environmental hazards (and the occasional murderous master.) And even they are easily overshadowed by Death Queen Island training methods.

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* Harsh training methods are common for all trying to become a warrior of Athena in ''SaintSeiya''.''Manga/SaintSeiya''. Some aspiring Saints get off lucky, and get to train one-on-one with a benevolent (or, at worst, indifferent) master such as [[OldMaster Libra Dohko]], Eagle Marin, or the [[AnIcePerson Crystal Saint]]. But the vast, ''vast'' majority are sent to training camps where they must compete for the right to don the sacred Cloth... if not for their very ''lives''. Andromeda Island and especially Athena's Sanctuary have {{Death Course}}s where battalions of trainees must survive both daily combat as well as environmental hazards (and the occasional murderous master.) And even they are easily overshadowed by Death Queen Island training methods.
26th Mar '17 1:05:56 PM infernape612
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** To be entirely fair, NORFORCE's training isn't an unreasonable thing for an Australian to learn given local weather conditions and teaches vital teamwork skills (again, mostly useful beccause of wethher conditions).

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** To be entirely fair, NORFORCE's training isn't an unreasonable thing for an Australian to learn given local weather conditions and teaches vital teamwork skills (again, mostly useful beccause because of wethher weather conditions).
25th Mar '17 3:09:37 PM BiffJr
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* ''Film/StarshipTroopers''. Sergeant Zim even throws a knife into Ace's hand for griping. But then, in a universe where one can shrug off alien pincers through the shoulder blades, a mere knife to the hand probably counts barely above a slap.
5th Mar '17 11:56:20 AM nombretomado
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* In the MarvelComics AlternateContinuity ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'', Colossus is shown training young mutants for the fight against Apocalypse, expecting them to kill each other to ensure that only the very best remain. He and Shadowcat also actively go after them during training, to ensure that this is what happens. They only get away with it because ComicBook/{{Magneto}} is currently preoccupied with other matters, though.

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* In the MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics AlternateContinuity ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'', Colossus is shown training young mutants for the fight against Apocalypse, expecting them to kill each other to ensure that only the very best remain. He and Shadowcat also actively go after them during training, to ensure that this is what happens. They only get away with it because ComicBook/{{Magneto}} is currently preoccupied with other matters, though.
3rd Mar '17 8:54:31 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': The Unsullied undergo hellish training that makes them immune to pain and robotically loyal.
5th Feb '17 9:03:06 AM Specialist290
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** SERE training also operates on the assumption that ''everyone'' has a breaking point, no matter how much of a {{Determinator}} they (think they) may be. The point isn't so much to make you unbreakable as to teach you where that breaking point is, as well as how to cope and rebound once you've passed it.
3rd Feb '17 1:07:25 PM StFan
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* ''Anime/BurstAngel'' runs with this and then [[UpToEleven goes above and beyond]] by having only 3 surviving candidates of the supersoldier training program...and one would later go crazy and the other would betray the organization. Yeah, uh, not the most successful final training exercise... (and the one who remained loyal was the first of the final 3 to get beaten in the flashback by the other two, also the first major enemy encountered and defeated by the traitor early on, and the one who went crazy [[Anime/{{Witchblade}} shares her name]] with another anime supersoldier who went crazy.) The fact 3 survive may be a subtle reference to Naked Weapon mentioned below, considering their final exam is similar and also they are wearing [[SensualSpandex skintight]] 'battlesuits'.

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* ''Anime/BurstAngel'' runs with this and then [[UpToEleven goes above and beyond]] by having only 3 surviving candidates of the supersoldier training program...and one would later go crazy and the other would betray the organization. Yeah, uh, not the most successful final training exercise... (and the one who remained loyal was the first of the final 3 to get beaten in the flashback by the other two, also the first major enemy encountered and defeated by the traitor early on, and the one who went crazy [[Anime/{{Witchblade}} shares her name]] with another anime supersoldier who went crazy.) The fact 3 survive may be a subtle reference to Naked Weapon mentioned below, considering their final exam is similar and also they are wearing [[SensualSpandex skintight]] 'battlesuits'."battlesuits".



* ''[[ComicBook/ThreeHundred 300]]'', of course, being about Spartans and all.

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* ''[[ComicBook/ThreeHundred 300]]'', ''ComicBook/ThreeHundred'', of course, being about Spartans and all.



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* ''{{Disney/Mulan}}'' has a mild version of this. ''"Let's get down to business..."''
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* ''{{Disney/Mulan}}'' has a mild version of this. ''"Let's get down to business..."''



* The Zulus in ''{{Film/Zulu}}''.

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* %%* The Zulus in ''{{Film/Zulu}}''.



* ''Film/TheHungerGames'': Implied with District 2.

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* %%* ''Film/TheHungerGames'': Implied with District 2.



* The StarTrek book series ''StarTrekKlingonEmpire'' establishes this as the way the Klingon Empire trains their soldiers. One task has the soldier dropped off on an ice sheet on [[StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry Rura Penthe]] with no supplies or weapons and told to walk to the base at the north pole. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption One that doesn't actually exist.]] This is in addition to any training Klingons receive from the own families, which likely include some very harsh parenting techniques.

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* The StarTrek ''Franchise/StarTrek'' book series ''StarTrekKlingonEmpire'' ''Literature/StarTrekKlingonEmpire'' establishes this as the way the Klingon Empire trains their soldiers. One task has the soldier dropped off on an ice sheet on [[StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry Rura Penthe]] with no supplies or weapons and told to walk to the base at the north pole. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption One that doesn't actually exist.]] This is in addition to any training Klingons receive from the own families, which likely include some very harsh parenting techniques.



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* The training of [[SuperSoldier Space Marines]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' would almost take this to the point of parody, if it did not portray it so chillingly. Aspirants, pre- or barely post-pubescent children, must run a gauntlet of lethal physical and mental challenges, then survive a series of brutal physical, mental and spiritual tests before they're even considered. While they're still undergoing physical augmentation, neophytes take to the field as part of the chapter's Scout Company, infiltrating behind enemy lines or supporting their brothers in battle as light infantry. If they survive their first couple decades of war, maybe one in a hundred of the original aspirants will don the PowerArmor of a full-fledged Space Marine. The training never stops, either; Marines not on campaign spend their days in live-fire exercises, tactical indoctrination and prayer, with a whopping four hours of sleep (and fifteen minutes of free time, if the Chapter Master is feeling generous). The only reason they can actually keep their numbers up is the sheer ''scale'' of the Imperium- [[ComicBook/DamnationCrusade four potential recruits from a single planet is an exceptionally good haul]], but multiply that by ''billions'' of planets housing ''trillions'' of angry, sociopathic fighters and you can see how some Chapters have problems keeping themselves under the prescribed 1000-man limit (and some don't even use it).

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* The training of [[SuperSoldier Space Marines]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' would almost take this to the point of parody, if it did not portray it so chillingly. Aspirants, pre- or barely post-pubescent children, must run a gauntlet of lethal physical and mental challenges, then survive a series of brutal physical, mental and spiritual tests before they're even considered. While they're still undergoing physical augmentation, neophytes take to the field as part of the chapter's Scout Company, infiltrating behind enemy lines or supporting their brothers in battle as light infantry. If they survive their first couple decades of war, maybe one in a hundred of the original aspirants will don the PowerArmor of a full-fledged Space Marine. The training never stops, either; Marines not on campaign spend their days in live-fire exercises, tactical indoctrination and prayer, with a whopping four hours of sleep (and fifteen minutes of free time, if the Chapter Master is feeling generous). The only reason they can actually keep their numbers up is the sheer ''scale'' of the Imperium- [[ComicBook/DamnationCrusade four potential recruits from a single planet is an exceptionally good haul]], but multiply that by ''billions'' of planets housing ''trillions'' of angry, sociopathic fighters and you can see how some Chapters have problems keeping themselves under the prescribed 1000-man limit (and some don't even use it).



** [[MadScientist Fabius Bile]], premier Apothecary for the [[EvilCounterpart Chaos Space Marine]] legions, has devised training and recruitment programs that put loyalist practices to shame - he's whittled his success rate to 0.1% and is working hard to make the odds longer.

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** [[MadScientist Fabius Bile]], premier Apothecary for the [[EvilCounterpart Chaos Space Marine]] legions, has devised training and recruitment programs that put loyalist practices to shame - -- he's whittled his success rate to 0.1% and is working hard to make the odds longer.



* ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'', a setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', is so ridiculously harsh that simply living there has effectively indoctrinated every living creature on the planet, sentient and otherwise, in TheSpartanWay. Drained of life by the native version of magic, something like 90% of the planet is desert - even the seas have been boiled dry and their beds filled with silt, and a given locale is lucky to see a meagre shower of rain once a year. Metal is so rare that bone, rock and chitin are the accepted standard for weapons and armor (not that anyone wears armor, it's just too hot). Temperatures range from 110 degrees in the morning to 150 degrees by late afternoon. Just about everything smarter than a rock has some degree of psychic power, and every plant and animal, even the ones that don't eat flesh, is capable of killing you. The Githyanki, a xenophobic, egotistical, psychic ProudWarriorRace that happily crosses blades with every nasty the multiverse has to offer, invaded Athas '''once'''. And promptly ran away with their tails tucked between their legs, then sealed up the portal and told everybody else to stay the ''hell'' away from this crazy place. "[[Franchise/{{Dune}} God made Athas to test the faithful]]" would be a good analogy if Athas ''had'' any deities (in AD&D it was unknown whether it'd ever had any, while in 4th edition they'd been killed or driven away by elemental spirits known as primordials), with the closest thing its priests serve being elemental powers. Or to put it succinctly, during the AD&D era, ''Dark Sun'' was the only published setting to start characters at 3rd level, while "encouraging" players to have back-up characters ready.

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* ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'', a setting for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', is so ridiculously harsh that simply living there has effectively indoctrinated every living creature on the planet, sentient and otherwise, in TheSpartanWay. Drained of life by the native version of magic, something like 90% of the planet is desert - -- even the seas have been boiled dry and their beds filled with silt, and a given locale is lucky to see a meagre meager shower of rain once a year. Metal is so rare that bone, rock and chitin are the accepted standard for weapons and armor (not that anyone wears armor, it's just too hot). Temperatures range from 110 degrees in the morning to 150 degrees by late afternoon. Just about everything smarter than a rock has some degree of psychic power, and every plant and animal, even the ones that don't eat flesh, is capable of killing you. The Githyanki, a xenophobic, egotistical, psychic ProudWarriorRace that happily crosses blades with every nasty the multiverse has to offer, invaded Athas '''once'''. And promptly ran away with their tails tucked between their legs, then sealed up the portal and told everybody else to stay the ''hell'' away from this crazy place. "[[Franchise/{{Dune}} God made Athas to test the faithful]]" would be a good analogy if Athas ''had'' any deities (in AD&D ''AD&D'' it was unknown whether it'd ever had any, while in 4th edition they'd been killed or driven away by elemental spirits known as primordials), with the closest thing its priests serve being elemental powers. Or to put it succinctly, during the AD&D ''AD&D'' era, ''Dark Sun'' was the only published setting to start characters at 3rd level, while "encouraging" players to have back-up characters ready.



** The [[Community/DwarfFortress infamous community]]'s version of Dwarven "Child Care". "It's like regular childcare, except with more dogs, and less care." The basic version is dumping children in small pits with irritable, semi-feral dogs and food, though more dementedly sophisticated methods have been dreamed up in the forums to instill physical toughness and psychological numbness.

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** The [[Community/DwarfFortress infamous community]]'s community's version of Dwarven "Child Care". "It's like regular childcare, except with more dogs, and less care." The basic version is dumping children in small pits with irritable, semi-feral dogs and food, though more dementedly sophisticated methods have been dreamed up in the forums to instill physical toughness and psychological numbness.



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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': Welcome to Beacon Academy! Since it's your second day, it's time to catapult you over a cliff into a forest infested with giant monsters. Figure out how to land yourself, then grab a "Relic" and try not to die! Made it? Time for some studying, such as the Professor bringing a monster into the classroom and telling you to fight it to the death. Of course [[WorldOfBadass the cast takes it in stride]]... [[ButtMonkey except Jaune]].
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-->'''Rustynuts:''' "Well, let me tell you, whippersnappers, when I was your age, and I was in Ye Olde Armie, we woke up at 2:00 every morning and had to climb a mountain to get to our breakfast. And it was always cold by the time we got there! Then we had to swim up waterfalls for two hours, and chop down trees with our noses after that. After our afternoon breadstick, we had to dig holes using each other as shovels. When we had dug a satisfactory hole, we switched places and filled it back up. Then we ran around Boulder Canyon and smashed rocks and beat up grizzly bears. Then, for dinner, we had broccoli. After that, since it was too cold to go outside, we stayed inside and practiced our Shoryukens and Tatsumaki Senpukyakus. Then we had our AP Calculus tests at the same time as our Astrophysics tests. Finally, we went to sleep at 2:30 in the morning,"
-->'''Rose:''' "According to that logic you went to sleep thirty minutes AFTER you woke up and did all that stuff."
-->'''Rustynuts:''' "That's why we fell half an hour behind schedule every day. [[GrumpyOldMan Cheeky little brat]]."

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-->'''Rustynuts:''' "Well, let me tell you, whippersnappers, when I was your age, and I was in Ye Olde Armie, we woke up at 2:00 every morning and had to climb a mountain to get to our breakfast. And it was always cold by the time we got there! Then we had to swim up waterfalls for two hours, and chop down trees with our noses after that. After our afternoon breadstick, we had to dig holes using each other as shovels. When we had dug a satisfactory hole, we switched places and filled it back up. Then we ran around Boulder Canyon and smashed rocks and beat up grizzly bears. Then, for dinner, we had broccoli. After that, since it was too cold to go outside, we stayed inside and practiced our Shoryukens and Tatsumaki Senpukyakus. Then we had our AP Calculus tests at the same time as our Astrophysics tests. Finally, we went to sleep at 2:30 in the morning,"
-->'''Rose:''' "According
morning.\\
'''Rose:''' According
to that logic you went to sleep thirty minutes AFTER you woke up and did all that stuff."
-->'''Rustynuts:''' "That's
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'''Rustynuts:''' That's
why we fell half an hour behind schedule every day. [[GrumpyOldMan Cheeky little brat]]."



* Welcome to [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} Beacon Academy!]] Since it's your second day, it's time to catapult you over a cliff into a forest infested with giant monsters. Figure out how to land yourself, then grab a "Relic" and try not to die! Made it? Time for some studying, such as the Professor bringing a monster into the classroom and telling you to fight it to the death. Of course [[WorldOfBadass the cast takes it in stride]]...[[ButtMonkey except Jaune]].



23rd Jan '17 1:55:17 PM MarkyVigoroth
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* The qualification process for some barbaric surgeries is a non-military example. Due to some of these procedures involving shrinking the stomach in some way, the patient must undergo a strict, drastic diet for life. The selection process includes a similar diet, the true purpose thereof being to see if the patient is capable of committing to the drastic, permanent changes in the patient's lifestyle. Not only do most people change their minds by themselves, but a few people actually ''willingly'' continue with the pre-diet ''by themselves'' due to how empowered the pre-diet made them feel over their own bodies!
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