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15th Sep '16 11:51:27 PM ZippyJake
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*During [[HistoryOfTheColdWar the division of East and West Germany]], the East German government used very specific phrasing whenever speaking of its Western counterpart. The most common was "the government in Bonn", due to a belief that by referring to it as a "German government" of any sort would undermine their position that it was an illegitimate government.
8th Sep '16 1:59:01 PM WillKeaton
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* The Scandal That Shall Not Be Named, as it's only ever euphemistically referred to around here, if at all, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and for good reason]], has had this effect on ThisVeryWiki. It even got to the point where the very mention of its ''name'' caused an ExampleSectionectomy[[note]]specifically, {{Scandalgate}} became restricted to InUniverseExamplesOnly when an EditWar over a certain example there [[MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot turned up some serious]] TropeDecay[[/note]].

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* The Scandal That Shall Not Be Named, as it's only ever euphemistically referred to around here, if at all, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and for good reason]], has had this effect on ThisVeryWiki. It even got to the point where the very mention of its ''name'' caused an ExampleSectionectomy[[note]]specifically, ExampleSectionectomy.[[note]]Specifically, {{Scandalgate}} became restricted to InUniverseExamplesOnly when an EditWar over a certain example there [[MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot turned up some serious]] TropeDecay[[/note]].TropeDecay.[[/note]]
8th Sep '16 1:57:02 PM WillKeaton
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* Inverted by the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKarCnIjXT0 Scottish Falsetto Sock Puppet Theatre]].

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* Inverted by the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKarCnIjXT0 Scottish Falsetto Sock Puppet Theatre]].Theatre.]]
8th Sep '16 1:56:41 PM WillKeaton
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* Website/BashOrg: "[[http://www.bash.org/?13213 Somebody says "fuck" and he drops?]]" [[note]] ]That looks like a buggy censorship filter on his IRC client..[[/note]]

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* Website/BashOrg: "[[http://www.[[http://www.bash.org/?13213 Somebody "Somebody says "fuck" and he drops?]]" [[note]] ]That drops?"]] [[note]]That looks like a buggy censorship filter on his IRC client..client.[[/note]]
21st Aug '16 4:25:35 PM ryanasaurus0077
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* The Scandal That Shall Not Be Named, as it's only ever euphemistically referred to around here, if at all, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and for good reason]], has had this effect on ThisVeryWiki. It even got to the point where the very mention of its ''name'' caused an ExampleSectionectomy[[note]]specifically, {{Scandalgate}} became restricted to InUniverseExamplesOnly when an EditWar over a certain example there [[MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot turned up some serious]] TropeDecay[[/note]].
17th Aug '16 7:37:21 PM merotoker
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* Literary genius Kaitou from ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' has the [[PersonalityPowers power]] of Taboo: within his Territory, he can set any word or sound as the Taboo, and if you say it, you lose your soul (for example, when the taboo word is "hot", Kuwabara loses his soul from merely saying "eac'''h''' '''ot'''her"). [[spoiler:This applies to him, as well. Kurama defeats him by getting him to gradually make ''every letter of the alphabet'' as the Taboo, and then scaring him... but since [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow Kaitou expected that and controlled himself]], he made him laugh instead.]]

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* Literary genius Kaitou from ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' has the [[PersonalityPowers power]] of Taboo: [[WordsCanBreakMyBones within his Territory, he can set any word or sound as the Taboo, and if you say it, you lose your soul soul]] (for example, when the taboo word is "hot", Kuwabara loses his soul from merely saying "eac'''h''' '''ot'''her"). [[spoiler:This applies to him, as well. Kurama defeats him by getting him to gradually make ''every letter of the alphabet'' as the Taboo, and then scaring him... but since [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow Kaitou expected that and controlled himself]], he made him laugh instead.]]



* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Ginkaku and Kinkaku have a ninja tool that causes people's souls to get absorbed if they say the word they said most in life. Unlike the Yu Yu Hakusho example above, remaining silent for too long also results in one getting absorbed. [[spoiler:Ginkaku ends up having his own tool turned against him]].

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Ginkaku and Kinkaku have a ninja tool that causes people's souls to get absorbed if they say the word they said most in life. Unlike the ''Yu Yu Yu Hakusho Hakusho'' example above, remaining silent for too long also results in one getting absorbed. [[spoiler:Ginkaku ends up having his own tool turned against him]].



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* It is nearly taboo in the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' community to mention the story ''Squad Broken'', which is about [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} A space marine scout being raped to death by an ork, before being resurrected as a Necron.]]]] Part of this is because of, well, BrainBleach needed after the story, but also because a) [[CriticalResearchFailure Orks do not reproduce that way (they are fungoid life forms and reproduce via spores)]], b) [[CriticalResearchFailure only certain humans can become Necrons, and not like how the story depicts it,]] and c) [[spoiler:[[DudeNotFunny It has a Space Marine being raped to death.]]]]
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
** In the community, the fan fiction ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}'' is considered this. It is thus far the only story on the site "Equestria Daily" to receive the label "{{GRIMDARK}} AS [[PrecisionFStrike FUCK.]]" It's about [[spoiler: [[GenkiGirl Pinkie]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pie]] murdering her friend [[ActionGirl Rainbow Dash]] in a fit of insanity, with massive amounts of gore and ''vivid'' descriptions of the process by which she is ''skinned alive.'']] Though on the other hoof, it's also become somewhat fandom tradition to ''reference'' the fic in some fashion. A common one is to have [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash jokingly ask Pinkie Pie when they're alone if she's going to take her to her basement and murder her]] or simply some kind of TakeThat at the fic. Still, the ''name'' is rarely actually mentioned.
** Inverted with another infamous fanfic, ''[[NoTitle unnamed my little pony fanfic]]'', which is referred to exclusively as "Ten Pounds of Fetus and Mouthwash", as the original "title" would make discussion of it awkward ([[IntentionallyAwkwardTitle not that the fan name for it is less awkward]]).
** And then there's ''Sweet Apple Massacre''. I do dare speak it's name. It's [[spoiler:Big Mac raping, murdering and raping (in that order no less!) the Cutie Mark Crusaders because they were noisy.]] The reason it's this is that few will dare speak its name and fewer have actually read it.
* ''[[WordSaladTitle Rectified Anonymity]]'', a profoundly horrible and unspeakably horrifying FanFiction of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', is invariably referred to as just "The Pokémon Story".
* In ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfAnElderGod'', one of the Angels (actually a Lovecraft-canon creature) can possess anyone who knows her name (even by simply seeing it written down), and will be almost guaranteed to do so if the possessee-to-be speaks it out loud. After [[spoiler:Ayanami Rei]] defeats her, she gains this power and applies it to her own name. Did you read that spoiler?
* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' thriller ''[[Fanfic/WhyandWere Why and Were]]'', a sub-plot deals with Olwen Vitoller's Players who are putting on a production of ''Felmet, Pretender King of Lancre''. Nobby Nobbs realises the actors can only refer to it as The Lancre Play. As this is the Discworld, terrible things happen every time Nobby innocently speaks the play's full title. But the terrible things only happen to ''actors''. Not Watchmen. So Nobby speaks the name quite a lot just to see what happens next. Well, a copper has to get job satisfaction ''somewhere''.
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* In ''ComicBook/TheSandman,'' None of the other [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Endless Ones]] ever addresses [[TheGrimReaper Death]] by her name, or even refer to her by name. In conversation, it's always "Sister"; by reference, it's always "our oldest sister." ''Always.''

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* In ''ComicBook/TheSandman,'' None none of the other [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Endless Ones]] ever addresses [[TheGrimReaper Death]] by her name, or even refer to her by name. In conversation, it's always "Sister"; by reference, it's always "our oldest sister." ''Always.''



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* It is nearly taboo in the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' community to mention the story ''Squad Broken'', which is about [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} A space marine scout being raped to death by an ork, before being resurrected as a Necron.]]]]. Part of this is because of, well, BrainBleach needed after the story, but also because a) [[CriticalResearchFailure Orks do not reproduce that way (they are fungoid life forms and reproduce via spores)]], b) [[CriticalResearchFailure only certain humans can become Necrons, and not like how the story depicts it,]] and c) [[spoiler:[[DudeNotFunny It has a Space Marine being raped to death]]]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
** In the community, the fan fiction ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}'' is considered this. It is thus far the only story on the site "Equestria Daily" to receive the label "{{GRIMDARK}} AS [[PrecisionFStrike FUCK.]]" It's about [[spoiler: [[GenkiGirl Pinkie]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pie]] murdering her friend [[ActionGirl Rainbow Dash]] in a fit of insanity, with massive amounts of gore and ''vivid'' descriptions of the process by which she is ''skinned alive'']]. Though on the other hoof, it's also become somewhat fandom tradition to ''reference'' the fic in some fashion. A common one is to have [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash jokingly ask Pinkie Pie when they're alone if she's going to take her to her basement and murder her]] or simply some kind of TakeThat at the fic. Still, the ''name'' is rarely actually mentioned.
** Inverted with another infamous fanfic, ''[[NoTitle unnamed my little pony fanfic]]'', which is referred to exclusively as "Ten Pounds of Fetus and Mouthwash", as the original "title" would make discussion of it awkward ([[IntentionallyAwkwardTitle not that the fan name for it is less awkward]]).
** And then there's ''Sweet Apple Massacre''. I do dare speak it's name. It's [[spoiler:Big Mac raping, murdering and raping (in that order no less!) the Cutie Mark Crusaders because they were noisy]]. The reason it's this is that few will dare speak its name and fewer have actually read it.
* ''[[WordSaladTitle Rectified Anonymity]]'', a profoundly horrible and unspeakably horrifying FanFiction of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', is invariably referred to as just "The Pokémon Story".
* In ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfAnElderGod'', one of the Angels (actually a Lovecraft-canon creature) can possess anyone who knows her name (even by simply seeing it written down), and will be almost guaranteed to do so if the possessee-to-be speaks it out loud. After [[spoiler:Ayanami Rei]] defeats her, she gains this power and applies it to her own name. Did you read that spoiler?
* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' thriller ''[[Fanfic/WhyandWere Why and Were]]'', a sub-plot deals with Olwen Vitoller's Players who are putting on a production of ''Felmet, Pretender King of Lancre''. Nobby Nobbs realises the actors can only refer to it as The Lancre Play. As this is the Discworld, terrible things happen every time Nobby innocently speaks the play's full title. But the terrible things only happen to ''actors''. Not Watchmen. So Nobby speaks the name quite a lot just to see what happens next. Well, a copper has to get job satisfaction ''somewhere''.
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* [[NotUsingTheZedWord The "Zed" word]] in ''Film/ShaunOfTheDead'' And the same word in many other works relating to the dead that walk.

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* [[NotUsingTheZedWord [[NotUsingTheZWord The "Zed" "Z" word]] in ''Film/ShaunOfTheDead'' And -- and the same word in many other works relating to the dead that walk.



* In the movie ''Film/{{Candyman}}'', saying the name Candyman five times in front of mirror will cause him to appear.

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* In the movie ''Film/{{Candyman}}'', saying the name Candyman five times in front of mirror will cause him to appear.



-->'''KingArthur:''' But what kind of word is it?\\

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-->'''KingArthur:''' -->'''[[Creator/GrahamChapman King Arthur]]:''' But what kind of word is it?\\



** Speaking of H.P. Lovecraft, there's one deity that is so hated and horrible, that even [[CthulhuMythos C'Thulhu]] and his followers fear even the writing of his name! Mentioning his name, or even thinking of it correctly, is enough to summon this freak who will fulfill your {{squick}}iest desires in exchange for complete servitude. His name is [[spoiler:Y'golonac.]]

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** Speaking of H.P. Lovecraft, there's one deity that is so hated and horrible, that even [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos C'Thulhu]] and his followers fear even the writing of his name! Mentioning his name, or even thinking of it correctly, is enough to summon this freak who will fulfill your {{squick}}iest desires in exchange for complete servitude. His name is [[spoiler:Y'golonac.]][[spoiler:Y'golonac]].



** In ''Literature/ColdDays,'' Harry learns that [[spoiler: the Black Council may actually be an infectious Outsider called Nemesis. However, speaking its name risks drawings its attention, so even Mother Summer and Mother Winter (fairies several orders of magnitude beyond Harry's power, even ''with''the Winter Mantle) call it "the Adversary" instead.]]

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** In ''Literature/ColdDays,'' Harry learns that [[spoiler: the Black Council may actually be an infectious Outsider called Nemesis. However, speaking its name risks drawings its attention, so even Mother Summer and Mother Winter (fairies several orders of magnitude beyond Harry's power, even ''with''the Winter Mantle) call it "the Adversary" instead.]]instead]].



* Creator/JorgeLuisBorges observes that ''every'' word is TheScottishTrope. In "Literature/TheLibraryOfBabel," the narrator/librarian points out that in the infinite labyrinth he oversees, stuffed with books containing every possible permutation of letters and spaces, any word can be this in one of the Library's infinite languages. "No one can utter a syllable that is not charged with tenderness and fear; that is not, in one of these languages, the powerful name of a god."

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* Creator/JorgeLuisBorges observes that ''every'' word is TheScottishTrope.The Scottish Trope. In "Literature/TheLibraryOfBabel," the narrator/librarian points out that in the infinite labyrinth he oversees, stuffed with books containing every possible permutation of letters and spaces, any word can be this in one of the Library's infinite languages. "No one can utter a syllable that is not charged with tenderness and fear; that is not, in one of these languages, the powerful name of a god."



* The ''Series/{{Blackadder}} the Third'' episode "Sense and Senility" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueWXZaoHwsU parodies the superstition]] about the [[TropeNamer trope name-avoider]], adding in pat-a-cake, hand-twirling and nose-twisting:

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* The ''Series/{{Blackadder}} the Third'' episode "Sense and Senility" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueWXZaoHwsU parodies the superstition]] about the [[TropeNamer [[TropeNamers trope name-avoider]], adding in pat-a-cake, hand-twirling and nose-twisting:



* In the final season of ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prisoners put on a performance of ''Macbeth''. During rehearsals ''every'' prisoner who's given the title role gets murdered. Eventually [[spoiler:Vern Schillinger takes on the part, because he wants to prove he's got "bigger balls than everyone else", only for him to get murdered on performance night when the prisoner playing [=MacDuff=] "accidentally" has his prop knife switched for a real one.]]

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* In the final season of ''Series/{{Oz}}'', the prisoners put on a performance of ''Macbeth''. During rehearsals ''every'' prisoner who's given the title role gets murdered. Eventually [[spoiler:Vern Schillinger takes on the part, because he wants to prove he's got "bigger balls than everyone else", only for him to get murdered on performance night when the prisoner playing [=MacDuff=] "accidentally" has his prop knife switched for a real one.]]one]].



* ''Series/{{QI}}''; In the 'I' series episode "Immortal Bard", Stephen Fry challenged the panelists to name "the Scottish play". After a few false guesses to avoid the klaxon, Bill Bailey gamely announced "Macbeth", which of course was the right answer. Fry noted that the klaxon would have gone off if they claimed they couldn't say "Macbeth" to avoid the curse, which led to a spirited discussion of the origins of the ''Macbeth'' "curse". David Mitchell suggested that theater people should claim that it's bad luck to have a cell phone on during a play.
* An episode of Nickelodeon's ''Series/MakeItPop'' uses the not-TropeNamer as a plot point.

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* ''Series/{{QI}}''; ''Series/{{QI}}'': In the 'I' series episode "Immortal Bard", Stephen Fry challenged the panelists to name "the Scottish play". After a few false guesses to avoid the klaxon, Bill Bailey gamely announced "Macbeth", which of course was the right answer. Fry noted that the klaxon would have gone off if they claimed they couldn't say "Macbeth" to avoid the curse, which led to a spirited discussion of the origins of the ''Macbeth'' "curse". David Mitchell suggested that theater people should claim that it's bad luck to have a cell phone on during a play.
* An episode of Nickelodeon's ''Series/MakeItPop'' uses the not-TropeNamer not-{{Trope Namer|s}} as a plot point.



* Myth/GreekMythology

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* Myth/GreekMythology[[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek Mythology]]



** There is, in fact, a trope that qualifies as The Scottish Trope. Many of you will remember, with either fondness or horror, a certain page on this wiki by the name of [[spoiler:I Am Not Making This Up.]]

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** There is, in fact, a trope that qualifies as The Scottish Trope. Many of you will remember, with either fondness or horror, a certain page on this wiki by the name of [[spoiler:I Am Not Making This Up.]]Up]].



* According to GodwinsLaw, if you want a discussion to keep going, never, ''ever'' mention [[spoiler:[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]]]]

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* According to GodwinsLaw, if you want a discussion to keep going, never, ''ever'' mention [[spoiler:[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]]]]Hitler]]]].



** On the other side of the fourth wall, there's a very persistent superstition revolving around a particular type of ranged heavy weapon. Call it a rocket launcher (even if it isn't), or just point to the model holding it, but don't call it a ''miss''ile launcher ''[[IncrediblyLamePun or it will]]''.

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** On the other side of the fourth wall, there's a very persistent superstition revolving around a particular type of ranged heavy weapon. Call it a rocket launcher (even if it isn't), or just point to the model holding it, but don't call it a ''miss''ile launcher ''[[IncrediblyLamePun ''[[{{Pun}} or it will]]''.



* The [[TropeNamer trope non-namer]] for this one is a certain play by Creator/WilliamShakespeare about regicide and Scottish royal succession, which is kinda probably cursed such that even mentioning its name in a theater, or quoting dialogue from it if not actually rehearsing or performing it, can bring ruin, let alone trying to actually stage it. A number of historically documented productions of [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] have been notoriously unlucky. There are legitimate reasons [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] has more than its fair share of accidents -- much of the play's action taking place at night and outdoors, which increases the chance of somebody tripping over something; there's more sword fighting than the average, which always brings the chance of an accident; and most importantly it's a very cheap play to run (a guaranteed crowd pleaser with no performance rights to buy, does not require too many actors, and needs few props and little scenery) and is therefore often put on when the theater group is in hard times, which is also the time when people are more likely to skip the usual safety measures (the tendency to put on [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] when facing bankruptcy means that it usually ends up being the ''last'' play that a company puts on, further cementing the play's cursed status as a company ender). Still, [[http://whatstheharm.net/ it doesn't hurt to be superstitious.]]

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* The [[TropeNamer [[TropeNamers trope non-namer]] for this one is a certain play by Creator/WilliamShakespeare about regicide and Scottish royal succession, which is kinda probably cursed such that even mentioning its name in a theater, or quoting dialogue from it if not actually rehearsing or performing it, can bring ruin, let alone trying to actually stage it. A number of historically documented productions of [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] have been notoriously unlucky. There are legitimate reasons [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] has more than its fair share of accidents -- much of the play's action taking place at night and outdoors, which increases the chance of somebody tripping over something; there's more sword fighting than the average, which always brings the chance of an accident; and most importantly it's a very cheap play to run (a guaranteed crowd pleaser with no performance rights to buy, does not require too many actors, and needs few props and little scenery) and is therefore often put on when the theater group is in hard times, which is also the time when people are more likely to skip the usual safety measures (the tendency to put on [[Theatre/{{Macbeth}} The Scottish Play]] when facing bankruptcy means that it usually ends up being the ''last'' play that a company puts on, further cementing the play's cursed status as a company ender). Still, [[http://whatstheharm.net/ it doesn't hurt to be superstitious.]]



** DoubleSubverted in Theatre/{{Hamilton}}. In the song "Take A Break," Hamilton quotes Macbeth, then sings "I trust you'll understand the reference to another Scottish tragedy without me having to name the play." [[TemptingFate He then immediately refers to himself as Macbeth]]. As many fans have pointed out, after this song, everything in Hamilton's life goes to shit. [[spoiler: Hamilton cheats on his wife, is blackmailed for years by both his lover's husband and then by Jefferson & Madison, loses his job when Washington leaves office, is the subject of a sex scandal when his affair is leaked ([[WhatAnIdiot in a document that he wrote and published, permanently wrecking his prospects]], being estranged from his wife, having his son killed in a duel in his honor, and ultimately being killed in a duel himself.]]

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** DoubleSubverted DoubleSubversion in Theatre/{{Hamilton}}.''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}''. In the song "Take A Break," Hamilton quotes Macbeth, then sings "I trust you'll understand the reference to another Scottish tragedy without me having to name the play." [[TemptingFate He then immediately refers to himself as Macbeth]]. As many fans have pointed out, after this song, everything in Hamilton's life goes to shit. [[spoiler: Hamilton cheats on his wife, is blackmailed for years by both his lover's husband and then by Jefferson & Madison, loses his job when Washington leaves office, is the subject of a sex scandal when his affair is leaked ([[WhatAnIdiot in a document that he wrote and published, permanently wrecking his prospects]], being estranged from his wife, having his son killed in a duel in his honor, and ultimately being killed in a duel himself.]]



* The writer of ''Theatre/ShoggothOnTheRoof'' is referred to as "He Who [For Legal Reasons] Must Not Be Named". This is partly because the play borrows the music (if not the words) for its songs from ''Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof'' and thus can't be performed, at least in the United States. Mostly, though, it's because he was [[CthulhuMythos driven insane by perverse dreams of non-euclidean geometry and whispers of names the human tongue could not bear]], and now resides in an asylum, which also [For Legal Reasons] must not be named. Similarly, nonprofit performances are technically legal (or, at least in a slightly more legally grey area), yet tend to meet with mysterious accidents. Unfortunately, we can't be sure if that's due to sabotage, or more likely simply by the natural BrownNote effects of the play.

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* The writer of ''Theatre/ShoggothOnTheRoof'' is referred to as "He Who [For Legal Reasons] Must Not Be Named". This is partly because the play borrows the music (if not the words) for its songs from ''Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof'' and thus can't be performed, at least in the United States. Mostly, though, it's because he was [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos driven insane by perverse dreams of non-euclidean geometry and whispers of names the human tongue could not bear]], and now resides in an asylum, which also [For Legal Reasons] must not be named. Similarly, nonprofit performances are technically legal (or, at least in a slightly more legally grey area), yet tend to meet with mysterious accidents. Unfortunately, we can't be sure if that's due to sabotage, or more likely simply by the natural BrownNote effects of the play.



* ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II]]'' features class-specific quest chains; if you play as a bard, you can acquire the deed to a playhouse and supervise the production of a play called "The Sorcerer's Bane". But there's a rumor saying that the sorcerer it's supposed to be about really existed and he cursed the play for mocking him, resulting in ill fortune befalling anybody who says the name of the play out loud. The actor who plays the sorcerer insists that it be referred to only as "The Turmish Play".

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* ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGate Baldur's Gate II]]'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' features class-specific quest chains; if you play as a bard, you can acquire the deed to a playhouse and supervise the production of a play called "The Sorcerer's Bane". But there's a rumor saying that the sorcerer it's supposed to be about really existed and he cursed the play for mocking him, resulting in ill fortune befalling anybody who says the name of the play out loud. The actor who plays the sorcerer insists that it be referred to only as "The Turmish Play".



* ''VideoGame/PonyIsland'': To say Lucifer has [[AntagonisticOffspring a negative relationship with his father]], is putting it rather lightly. He ''never'' speaks his actual name, and gamers who sift through the code long enough [[spoiler: discover he only refers to him as "father, pure evil". Baphomet warns the player not to go around uttering that slanderous nickname, [[TheWatcher since he is always watching and listening.]]]]

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* ''VideoGame/PonyIsland'': To say Lucifer has [[AntagonisticOffspring a negative relationship with his father]], is putting it rather lightly. He ''never'' speaks his actual name, and gamers who sift through the code long enough [[spoiler: discover he only refers to him as "father, pure evil". Baphomet warns the player not to go around uttering that slanderous nickname, [[TheWatcher since he is always watching and listening.]]]] listening]]]].



* ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'': Temps Fate once encounters a dragon whose name is censored by ThePowersThatBe, lest he be swallowed by a black Plot Hole from which space, time and bad writing cannot escape.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'': Temps Fate once encounters a dragon whose name is censored by ThePowersThatBe, PowersThatBe, lest he be swallowed by a black Plot Hole from which space, time and bad writing cannot escape.



* The people who did the [[LetsPlay/SonicTheHedgehog2006 infamous Let's Play]] of ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)]]'' refer to it as "that other game" in their later {{Lets Play}}s.

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* The people who did the [[LetsPlay/SonicTheHedgehog2006 infamous Let's Play]] of ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)]]'' ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' refer to it as "that other game" in their later {{Lets Play}}s.



** In his debut episode, saying "Mandark" would cause a slideshow of animals being scared and bad things happening.
** Speaking of Mandark, his EnsembleDarkHorse sister Lalavava had the exact same thing happen in her only episode.

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** In his debut episode, saying "Mandark" would cause a slideshow of animals being scared and bad things happening.
** Speaking of Mandark, his
happening. His EnsembleDarkHorse sister Lalavava had the exact same thing happen in her only episode.



* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}}!'', JustForFun/CandleJack kidnaps you if you say his na[[spoiler:It's because they never say "Sir".]] [[MemeticMutation But at least Candle Jack is nice enough to always hit the "submit" button before he leav]][[spoiler:Well, I ''was'' raised with manners.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}}!'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}}'', JustForFun/CandleJack kidnaps you if you say his na[[spoiler:It's because they never say "Sir".]] [[MemeticMutation But at least Candle Jack is nice enough to always hit the "submit" button before he leav]][[spoiler:Well, I ''was'' raised with manners.]]



** The ''actual'' Scottish Trope was [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] in [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E4TheReginaMonologues The Regina Monologues]] when the family meets Sir Ian [=McKellen=] in England; any time ''anyone'' mentioned ''Macbeth'', some horrible injury was visited upon [=McKellen=].

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** The ''actual'' Scottish Trope was [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] in [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E4TheReginaMonologues "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E4TheReginaMonologues The Regina Monologues]] Monologues]]" when the family meets Sir Ian [=McKellen=] Creator/IanMcKellen in England; any time ''anyone'' mentioned ''Macbeth'', some horrible injury was visited upon [=McKellen=].[=McKellen=]. When the Simpsons wished him good luck before his performance, he said that was bad luck as well and a piece of the marquee promptly fell on him.



* In a scene near the end of ''WesternAnimation/MightyMax'', Virgil would cringe every time Max said "Stonehenge". He had good reason, as [[spoiler:Stonehenge was the place where Virgil was destined to die.]]

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* In a scene near the end of ''WesternAnimation/MightyMax'', Virgil would cringe every time Max said "Stonehenge". He had good reason, as [[spoiler:Stonehenge was the place where Virgil was destined to die.]]die]].



* ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutron'' uses the actual Scottish Trope in "[[OutDamnedSpot Out Darned Spotlight]]". Whenever someone said "Macbeth", something bad would happen, like lead actor Nick falling his skateboard and breaking his leg the day of the recital of ''Macbeth [[RecycledINSPACE in Space]]''!

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutron'' uses the actual Scottish Trope in "[[OutDamnedSpot Out Darned Spotlight]]". Whenever someone said "Macbeth", something bad would happen, like lead actor Nick falling off his skateboard and breaking his leg the day of the recital of ''Macbeth [[RecycledINSPACE in Space]]''!



* After [[UsefulNotes/ThePresidents U.S. President]] UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's approval rating dropped to an abysmal 19% near the end of his final term (and as the economy began to collapse), the Republican party started to distance themselves from Bush and his administration. The unwritten policy of refusing to mention Him or His Time As President has continued since then, though by the 2012 U.S. Presidential race it became ludicrous: traditionally, the most recent U.S. President from each party is made a major guest and gives some sort of speech at their respective presidential conventions. While Bush was technically invited, he was heavily pressured by the party bosses to ''not'' show up at the 2012 convention, which he ultimately didn't. Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney gave a speech in St. Petersburg, Florida where he made many references to Bush, but was evidently so afraid of saying his name outright that he just referred to Bush as "predecessor", in what ended up being one of the most awkward speeches in the history of U.S. politics.
** In the 2016 campaign, Jeb Bush averted this a bit by praising The Former Republican President's accomplishments, likely at least in part because it would be impossible to avoid mentioning his own brother. Notably, though, his campaign slogans were all along the lines of "Vote for ''Jeb''!" rather than the more obvious "Vote for ''Bush''!"

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* After [[UsefulNotes/ThePresidents U.S. President]] UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's approval rating dropped to an abysmal 19% near the end of his final term (and as the economy began to collapse), the Republican party started to distance themselves from Bush and his administration. The unwritten policy of refusing to mention Him or His Time As President has continued since then, though by the 2012 U.S. Presidential race it became ludicrous: traditionally, the most recent U.S. President from each party is made a major guest and gives some sort of speech at their respective presidential conventions. While Bush was technically invited, he was heavily pressured by the party bosses to ''not'' show up at the 2012 convention, which he ultimately didn't. Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney gave a speech in St. Petersburg, Florida where he made many references to Bush, but was evidently so afraid of saying his name outright that he just referred to Bush as "predecessor", in what ended up being one of the most awkward speeches in the history of U.S. politics.
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politics. In the 2016 campaign, Jeb Bush averted this a bit by praising The Former Republican President's accomplishments, likely at least in part because it would be impossible to avoid mentioning his own brother. Notably, though, his campaign slogans were all along the lines of "Vote for ''Jeb''!" rather than the more obvious "Vote for ''Bush''!"



* {{Bears|AreBadNews}}. The Proto-Indo-European word for "bear" was *rkto, which became ''ursus'' in Latin, ''arktos'' in Greek. But Indo-European peoples who lived closer to bears feared that if you said '*rkto', an *rkto would hear you; so in the Germanic languages, they were called "brown ones" (*beron, thus German ''Bär'', English ''bear''[[labelnote:*]]or maybe from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- ("wild animal"), a better-attested root overall[[/labelnote]]); in the Slavic languages, "honey-eaters" (Russian ''medved''); in the Celtic world, "honey pigs" or even "good calves"; in Lithuania, "lickers." And the Proto-Indo-European word might have been an euphemism, too...

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* {{Bears|AreBadNews}}. The Proto-Indo-European word for "bear" was *rkto, which became ''ursus'' in Latin, ''arktos'' in Greek. But Indo-European peoples who lived closer to bears feared that if you said '*rkto', an *rkto would hear you; so in the Germanic languages, they were called "brown ones" (*beron, thus German ''Bär'', English ''bear''[[labelnote:*]]or maybe from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- ("wild animal"), a better-attested root overall[[/labelnote]]); in the Slavic languages, "honey-eaters" (Russian ''medved''); in the Celtic world, "honey pigs" or even "good calves"; in Lithuania, "lickers." And the Proto-Indo-European word might have been an a euphemism, too...
13th Aug '16 6:09:25 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Discworld}}'' thriller ''[[Fanfic/WhyandWere Why and Were]]'', a sub-plot deals with Olwen Vitoller's Players who are putting on a production of ''Felmet, Pretender King of Lancre''. Nobby Nobbs realises the actors can only refer to it as The Lancre Play. As this is the Discworld, terrible things happen every time Nobby innocently speaks the play's full title. But the terrible things only happen to ''actors''. Not Watchmen. So Nobby speaks the name quite a lot just to see what happens next. Well, a copper has to get job satisfaction ''somewhere''.

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* In ''{{Discworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' thriller ''[[Fanfic/WhyandWere Why and Were]]'', a sub-plot deals with Olwen Vitoller's Players who are putting on a production of ''Felmet, Pretender King of Lancre''. Nobby Nobbs realises the actors can only refer to it as The Lancre Play. As this is the Discworld, terrible things happen every time Nobby innocently speaks the play's full title. But the terrible things only happen to ''actors''. Not Watchmen. So Nobby speaks the name quite a lot just to see what happens next. Well, a copper has to get job satisfaction ''somewhere''.



** ''In Discworld/MakingMoney'' the chef can't stand to hear the name of a certain onion-like vegetable.. He can eat the actual allium in question, and is fine with the words far lick, tar leak, but any mention of the word itself will make him freeze, throw his knife straight ahead of him, then speak in fluent Quirmian for roughly 8 seconds before going back to normal.

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** ''In Discworld/MakingMoney'' In ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' the chef can't stand to hear the name of a certain onion-like vegetable.. He can eat the actual allium in question, and is fine with the words far lick, tar leak, but any mention of the word itself will make him freeze, throw his knife straight ahead of him, then speak in fluent Quirmian for roughly 8 seconds before going back to normal.
8th Aug '16 1:50:08 AM Chabal2
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* A ''Series/{{Blackadder}} the Third'' episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueWXZaoHwsU parodies the superstition]] about the [[TropeNamer trope name-avoider]]:
-->'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends. Ohh.\\

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* A The ''Series/{{Blackadder}} the Third'' episode "Sense and Senility" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueWXZaoHwsU parodies the superstition]] about the [[TropeNamer trope name-avoider]]:
-->'''Mossop
name-avoider]], adding in pat-a-cake, hand-twirling and nose-twisting:
--> '''Blackadder:''' By "the Scottish play", I assume you mean "Macbeth"?\\
'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends. Ooh.\\
'''Blackadder:''' What was ''that?''\\
'''Keanrick:''' We're exorcizing evil spirits. Being but a mere butler, you will not know the great theater tradition that one does ''never'' speak the name of the Scottish play.\\
'''Blackadder:''' What, Macbeth?\\
'''Mossop
& Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends. Ohh.\\



'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' (''shout'') Yes!\\

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'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' (''shout'') Yes!\\'''Yes!'''\\



'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends. Owwwwww.

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'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends. Owwwwww.\\
'''Prince George:''' I say, what is all this hullaballoo, all this shouting and screaming and yelling blue murder. Why, it's like that play we saw the other day, what was it called, uh...\\
'''Blackadder:''' "Macbeth", sir?\\
'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends!\\
'''Prince George:''' No, no, no, it was called, uh, "Julius Caesar".\\
'''Blackadder:''' Ah yes, of course. (beat) "Julius Caesar". (beat) Not "Macbeth".\\
'''Mossop & Keanrick:''' Aahhhhh! Hot potatoes, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends!
1st Aug '16 9:13:38 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* In Emergency Rooms at the hospital, two words are never allowed to be uttered within the walls of the ER. Those two words are "quiet" and "slow. Using these words in another context, such as "Hey, you're making a little too much noise, could you please be quiet" or "When is the food going to get here? They sure are being slow" will merely earn you a glare and shush. Daring to utter these words while in context such as "Wow, it sure is [[ItsQuietTooQuiet quiet]] tonight," or "I can't believe how slow things are in here," may precipitate a projectile being thrown in your direction or other physical contact by a staffer. The reason for this is the anecdotal, yet seemingly verifiable phenomenon that [[TemptingFate when these words are said]], the doors will burst open with a load of bus accident victims who were hit by an airplane that was struck by lightning while everyone involved was also having a heart attack during active labor.

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* In Emergency Rooms at the hospital, two words are never allowed to be uttered within the walls of the ER. Those two words are "quiet" and "slow. " Using these words in another context, such as "Hey, you're making a little too much noise, could you please be quiet" or "When is the food going to get here? They sure are being slow" will merely earn you a glare and shush. Daring to utter these words while in context such as "Wow, it sure is [[ItsQuietTooQuiet quiet]] tonight," or "I can't believe how slow things are in here," may precipitate a projectile being thrown in your direction or other physical contact by a staffer. The reason for this is the anecdotal, yet seemingly verifiable phenomenon that [[TemptingFate when these words are said]], the doors will burst open with a load of bus accident victims who were hit by an airplane that was struck by lightning while everyone involved was also having a heart attack during active labor.



* [[EverythingsWorseWithBears Bears.]] The Proto-Indo-European word for "bear" was *rkto, which became ''ursus'' in Latin, ''arktos'' in Greek. But Indo-European peoples who lived closer to bears feared that if you said '*rkto', an *rkto would hear you; so in the Germanic languages, they were called "brown ones" (*beron, thus German ''Bär'', English ''bear''[[labelnote:*]]or maybe from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- ("wild animal"), a better-attested root overall[[/labelnote]]); in the Slavic languages, "honey-eaters" (Russian ''medved''); in the Celtic world, "honey pigs" or even "good calves"; in Lithuania, "lickers." And the Proto-Indo-European word might have been an euphemism, too...
* Wolves have been treated similarly too. The Swedish word for wolf, ''varg'', is Old Norse for something like "manslayer" or "destroyer", as speaking the word "ulv" was believed to call their attention.
* The way some Germans dance around words connected to the 1933-1945 era of their history . Helmut Schmidt (a former chancellor) once spoke of "Adolf Nazi", many times allusions are made in the vein of "Das hatten wir schon mal" (we've had that before), though this may also be attempts to invoke Godwin's law without invoking Godwin's law. Just ask any German how many synonyms for various Nazi terms they can come up with... There's 1933-45, the NS-time, the darkest era of German history, the third Reich, the thousand year Reich, the dozen year Reich and many other terms of various euphemistic or even humorous sound. Even seemingly innocuous words like "Volk" (people, cognate of "folk") were suspect during a time and oft-replaced by "Bevölkerung" (population).

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* [[EverythingsWorseWithBears Bears.]] {{Bears|AreBadNews}}. The Proto-Indo-European word for "bear" was *rkto, which became ''ursus'' in Latin, ''arktos'' in Greek. But Indo-European peoples who lived closer to bears feared that if you said '*rkto', an *rkto would hear you; so in the Germanic languages, they were called "brown ones" (*beron, thus German ''Bär'', English ''bear''[[labelnote:*]]or maybe from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰwer- ("wild animal"), a better-attested root overall[[/labelnote]]); in the Slavic languages, "honey-eaters" (Russian ''medved''); in the Celtic world, "honey pigs" or even "good calves"; in Lithuania, "lickers." And the Proto-Indo-European word might have been an euphemism, too...
* Wolves [[SavageWolves Wolves]] have been treated similarly too. The Swedish word for wolf, ''varg'', is Old Norse for something like "manslayer" or "destroyer", as speaking the word "ulv" was believed to call their attention.
* The way some Germans dance around words connected to the 1933-1945 era of their history . Helmut Schmidt (a former chancellor) once spoke of "Adolf Nazi", many times allusions are made in the vein of "Das hatten wir schon mal" (we've had that before), though this may also be attempts to invoke Godwin's law GodwinsLaw without invoking Godwin's law.GodwinsLaw. Just ask any German how many synonyms for various Nazi terms they can come up with... There's 1933-45, the NS-time, the darkest era of German history, the third Reich, the thousand year Reich, the dozen year Reich and many other terms of various euphemistic or even humorous sound. Even seemingly innocuous words like "Volk" (people, cognate of "folk") were suspect during a time and oft-replaced by "Bevölkerung" (population).(population).
* If two factions each refer to something by a different name, using either name is often tantamount to "picking a side," which can and will start a FlameWar. For example, regarding UsefulNotes/TheTroubles, should you refer to "Stroke City" in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland as ''Derry'' or ''Londonderry''? And should you refer to UsefulNotes/ThatSoutheastAsianCountry as ''Burma'' or ''Myanmar''?
29th Jul '16 7:43:34 AM 5zero2
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** Also applies to just about any arm of emergency services. These words are taboo anywhere police, fire, or EMS personnel are based, and ''especially'' at the communications centres that dispatch them.
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