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27th Jan '16 10:42:27 PM gophergiggles
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' Princess Celestia and Princess Luna defeated King Sombra by "turning him to shadow and banishing him to the ice of the arctic north". Unfortunately when he came back he had [[LivingShadow effectively weaponized the curse and was more dangerous than ever]]. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Good job, your majesties!]]
25th Dec '15 5:34:25 PM Necrodomo
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* All [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Demons]] in [[NexusWar Nexus Clash]] are shades of this trope to some degree or another. [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Namm]], the angelic Elder Power of justice and Law, cursed them with twisted and [[NoCureForEvil unhealable]] forms and banished them to FireAndBrimstoneHell, but player-character Demons are able to harness the curse to become just as powerful as the Angels, who really should have seen this coming. As the [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] puts it: --> The curse on a Demon is a powerful one, and where there is power there is a source of power.
17th Oct '15 12:22:33 PM Anddrix
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** Being NeglectfulPrecursors of the highest order, this wasn't even the first time the Guardians of Oa had tried The Punishment and seen it blow up in their faces. They once imprisoned {{Sinestro}} in the central power battery, forgetting they'd already stuck the [[EldritchAbomination living personification of fear]] inside there - which Sinestro quickly awakened. The resulting clusterfuck ended up killing all but one of the Guardians, reducing the number of Green Lanterns in existence from 3,600 to 1, and technically [[ComicBook/ZeroHour destroyed the universe]]. The lesson: the [[SealedEvilInACan Can you Seal Evil In]] and the CosmicKeystone that is the very heart of your power should be two different things.
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** Being NeglectfulPrecursors of the highest order, this wasn't even the first time the Guardians of Oa had tried The Punishment and seen it blow up in their faces. They once imprisoned {{Sinestro}} Sinestro in the central power battery, forgetting they'd already stuck the [[EldritchAbomination living personification of fear]] inside there - which Sinestro quickly awakened. The resulting clusterfuck ended up killing all but one of the Guardians, reducing the number of Green Lanterns in existence from 3,600 to 1, and technically [[ComicBook/ZeroHour destroyed the universe]]. The lesson: the [[SealedEvilInACan Can you Seal Evil In]] and the CosmicKeystone that is the very heart of your power should be two different things.
7th Oct '15 2:15:48 PM G02
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** Ermac is the literal personification of this, a being made of the still aware souls of all those that oppose Shao Kahn. Joining his collective is meant to be a FateWorseThanDeath, but there are upsides to of being part of an immensely powerful MindHive while keeping your individuality.
19th Sep '15 4:22:48 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{DCAU}}, Jason Blood's binding to {{Etrigan}} was punishment for betraying King Arthur and letting Camelot fall. Said punishment consists of becoming immortal and getting a SuperpoweredEvilSide. Of course, you may say that being eternally bonded to a demon (even a [[AntiHero noble one]]) that hates your guts is a form of punishment too, especially since Jason [[TheAtoner appears to be seeking redemption for his acts]] but aware he will never get it.
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* In the {{DCAU}}, Jason Blood's binding to {{Etrigan}} ComicBook/{{Etrigan}} was punishment for betraying King Arthur and letting Camelot fall. Said punishment consists of becoming immortal and getting a SuperpoweredEvilSide. Of course, you may say that being eternally bonded to a demon (even a [[AntiHero noble one]]) that hates your guts is a form of punishment too, especially since Jason [[TheAtoner appears to be seeking redemption for his acts]] but aware he will never get it.
1st Sep '15 7:05:12 AM narm00
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** Azalin Rex. A wizard king from the Greyhawk setting, he ruled his land with an iron fist. He fathered one son, who spent his childhood [[TrainingFromHell having the kindness beaten out of him]] so that he could become Azalin's ideal successor. This failed, and Azalin executed his own son when he was caught to smuggle condemned prisoners beyond his father's reach. Azalin made a similar pact as Strahd to learn the process to become a lich in order to gain immortality to rule his land forevermore. Decades later, he learned of a scroll containing a spell to resurrect his dead son. At the same time, he was cursed with being unable to learn new magic. Thus, he has the means to correct his greatest "failure", but cannot take advantage of it. Even worse, his new castle in his new domain has a room that would let him circumvent his curse, but every instant in the room causes him agonizing pain, as his undead body is brought back to life, cell by cell, basically decaying in reverse. So in the end, he is the absolute and immortal ruler of a vast kingdom, but can never improve himself or hand his responsibility elsewhere; he can't move up and he can't move out.
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** Azalin Rex. A wizard king from the Greyhawk setting, he ruled his land with an iron fist. He fathered one son, who spent his childhood [[TrainingFromHell having the kindness beaten out of him]] so that he could become Azalin's ideal successor. This failed, and Azalin executed his own son when he was caught to smuggle smuggling condemned prisoners beyond his father's reach. Azalin made a similar pact as Strahd to learn the process to become a lich in order to gain immortality to rule his land forevermore. Decades later, he learned of a scroll containing a spell to resurrect sent his dead son. At armies against his powerful neighbors, but his enemies sent mercenaries against him, forcing him to flee. The Mists of Ravenloft drew Azalin in, granting him a vast kingdom over which he has absolute rule, but at the same time, time cursing him for his deeds: he was cursed with being unable to cannot learn new magic. Thus, he has magic, denying him the means to correct power he craves, he is haunted by his son's ghost, who serves as the voice of his conscience, and he cannot escape the demiplane, preventing him from correcting his greatest "failure", but cannot take advantage of it. Even worse, mistake and resurrecting his new castle in his new domain has a room that would let him circumvent his curse, but every instant in the room causes him agonizing pain, as his undead body is brought back to life, cell by cell, basically decaying in reverse. So in the end, he is the absolute and immortal ruler of a vast kingdom, but can never improve himself or hand his responsibility elsewhere; he can't move up and he can't move out.son.

** Vlad Drakov, a CanonImmigrant from the Dragonlance setting, spent his free time as a mercenary general who won many wars but was constantly looked down upon by his clients as he yearned for a country to call his own. The Dark Powers provided in their own unique fashion, giving him a domain fashioned in a fascist dictatorship centered around a permanent police state and military government. Drakov was delighted at first, until he discovered that for all his new status, his new country was a backwater tract of mud surrounded on all sides by more advanced and prosperous domains. Which he tried to invade. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Over and over and over again]], each defeat replacing more of his reputation as a ruthless if successful general with one as a bumbling idiot.
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** Vlad Drakov, a CanonImmigrant originally from the Dragonlance setting, spent his free time as a mercenary general who won many wars but was constantly looked down upon by his clients as he yearned for a country to call his own. The Dark Powers provided in their own unique fashion, giving him a domain fashioned in a fascist dictatorship centered around a permanent police state and military government. Drakov was delighted at first, until he discovered that for all his new status, his new country was a backwater tract of mud surrounded on all sides by more advanced and prosperous domains. Which he tried to invade. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Over and over and over again]], each defeat replacing more of his reputation as a ruthless if successful general with one as a bumbling idiot.

** Pharaoh Anhktepot, ''Ravenloft's'' token mummy darklord, suffered the Punishment ''twice''. First, Ra punished him for his hubris by making his touch lethal, so he started killing his own subjects until the survivors murdered him. Then the Dark Powers got wind of his misdeeds, and confined this once-mighty king in a tiny domain with just a few hundred inhabitants; now undead, Anhktepot can become alive for a day by sacrificing one of its residents, but he knows that doing so too often means he'll run out of subjects and be alone forever.
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** Pharaoh Anhktepot, ''Ravenloft's'' token primary mummy darklord, suffered the Punishment ''twice''. First, Ra punished him for his hubris by making his touch lethal, so he started killing his own subjects until the survivors murdered him. Then the Dark Powers got wind of his misdeeds, and confined this once-mighty king in a tiny domain with just a few hundred inhabitants; now undead, Anhktepot can become alive for a day by sacrificing one of its residents, but he knows that doing so too often means he'll run out of subjects and be alone forever.

** There was also ''Ravenloft's'' version of [[TheBluebeard Bluebeard]], who was married several times, kept demanding complete, utter and unquestioning loyalty from his wives, and when they inevitably failed, [[DomesticAbuse brutally murdered them]]. Now as a Darklord he keeps falling in love, again and again... but every time he does so, he sees his new lady love as one of his dead wives. [[NightmareFuel Rotting flesh, dripping maggots, and all]].
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** There was There's also ''Ravenloft's'' version of [[TheBluebeard Bluebeard]], Literature/{{Bluebeard}}, who was married several times, kept demanding complete, utter and unquestioning loyalty from his wives, and when they inevitably failed, [[DomesticAbuse brutally murdered them]]. Now as a Darklord he keeps falling in love, again and again... but every time he does so, he sees his new lady love as one of his dead wives. [[NightmareFuel Rotting flesh, dripping maggots, and all]].

** Abd-al-Mamat was in life a wise adviser to a powerful sheik. All in the kingdom recognized him as wiser and better suited to rule than the sheik, but he did not have noble blood. More and more often, the sheik ignored al-Mamat's advice and the kingdom fell into ruin until al-Mamat arranged his murder and "reluctantly" took power for himself, ruling with an iron fist but bringing prosperity to the kingdom and its people. He was corrupted by power and eventually ordered the execution of a man married to a woman whom al-Mamat coveted and took for himself. He was cursed and a whirlwind of swords dashed him to pieces. He lived on as a spirit and is immortal in almost every way, but he could not interact with the world or be seen as was forced to watch his kingdom fall back into ruins until the whirlwind of blades drops the last remaining bits of his body and he returns to life. Every century, he returns to life for one year and rules again, rebuilding his kingdom from a century of neglect and misrule, but at the end of the year the swords return and he has to watch again as his kingdom collapses without him.
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** Abd-al-Mamat was in life a wise adviser to a powerful sheik. All in the kingdom recognized him as wiser and better suited to rule than the sheik, but he did not have noble blood. More and more often, the sheik ignored al-Mamat's advice and the kingdom fell into ruin until al-Mamat arranged his murder and "reluctantly" took power for himself, ruling with an iron fist but bringing prosperity to the kingdom and its people. He was corrupted by power and eventually ordered the execution of a man married to a woman whom al-Mamat coveted and took for himself. He was cursed and a whirlwind of swords dashed him to pieces. He lived on as a spirit and is spirit, immortal in almost every way, but he could not cannot interact with the world or be seen as was seen, forced to watch his kingdom fall back into ruins until the whirlwind of blades drops the last remaining bits of his body and he returns to life. Every century, he returns to life for one year and rules again, rebuilding his kingdom from a century of neglect and misrule, but at the end of the year the swords return and he has to watch again as his kingdom collapses without him.
18th Jun '15 11:22:42 PM justanid
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*** It's interesting to note, though, that out of all Dark Lords, Soth's Punishment in "Ravenloft" was barely worse than what he already suffered in his native setting of "Literature/{{Dragonlance}}". That's probably why he was sent back to Krynn (the world of "Dragonlance"), from both an in-story perspective (his torment probably wasn't satisfying enough for the Mists) and from a meta perspective (he really wasn't that interesting as a Dark Lord).
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*** It's interesting to note, though, that out of all Dark Lords, Soth's Punishment in "Ravenloft" ''Ravenloft'' was barely worse than what he already suffered in his native setting of "Literature/{{Dragonlance}}". ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}''. That's probably why he was sent back to Krynn (the world of "Dragonlance"), ''Dragonlance''), from both an in-story perspective (his torment probably wasn't satisfying enough for the Mists) and from a meta perspective (he really wasn't that interesting as a Dark Lord).
18th Jun '15 11:22:05 PM justanid
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** Later inverted in the Ravenloft novels, where Soth is pulled into Ravenloft and unable to escape due to his wickedness. [[ArmedWithCanon There's dispute about that, though.]]
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** Later inverted in the Ravenloft ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' novels, where Soth is pulled into Ravenloft the Demiplane of Dread and unable to escape due to his wickedness. [[ArmedWithCanon There's dispute about that, though.]]

*** Soth may be an aversion in the very end, depending on who you believe. According to Dragon Magazine in its list of top D&D villains, Soth was indeed transferred to Ravenloft, and ruled his own dimension for a time...and eventually, the torment of that plane (and possibly interaction with a magic mirror of some sort?) got to him, and pushed him into an epiphany. When Takhisis came calling again, Soth rejected her. She slew him, and he finally found peace.
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*** Soth may be an aversion in the very end, depending on who you believe. According to Dragon Magazine in its list of top D&D villains, Soth was indeed transferred to Ravenloft, ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'', and ruled his own dimension for a time...and eventually, the torment of that plane (and possibly interaction with a magic mirror of some sort?) got to him, and pushed him into an epiphany. When Takhisis came calling again, Soth rejected her. She slew him, and he finally found peace.

* The ''{{Ravenloft}}'' D&D campaign setting runs on, lives, breathes, and eats this trope. An ethereal demiplane dedicated to the punishment of the wicked, its [[FisherKing darklords]] simultaneously are granted great power over their domains and subjects, but are denied their greatest desire. Examples include:
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* The ''{{Ravenloft}}'' D&D ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' campaign setting for ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons D&D]]'' runs on, lives, breathes, and eats this trope. An ethereal demiplane dedicated to the punishment of the wicked, its [[FisherKing darklords]] simultaneously are granted great power over their domains and subjects, but are denied their greatest desire. Examples include:

** Lord Soth, described above, had the chance to prevent a [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt world-shattering cataclysm]] but did not do so out of pride and jealousy. Since then, he had spent the next three hundred years listening to his banshee servants sing the songs of his failures. Eventually, he was transported into Ravenloft and given an exact copy of his former castle, perfect in every detail... Except the architecture keeps changing, which drives Soth - accustomed to rigid military order - crazy. *** It's interesting to note, though, that out of all Dark Lords, Soth's Punishment in "Ravenloft" was barely worse than what he already suffered in his native setting of "Dragonlance". That's probably why he was sent back to Krynn (the world of "Dragonlance"), from both an in-story perspective (his torment probably wasn't satisfying enough for the Mists) and from a meta perspective (he really wasn't that interesting as a Dark Lord). ** Vlad Drakov, a CanonImmigrant from the Dragonlance setting, spent his free time as a mercenary general who won many wars but was constantly looked down upon by his clients as he yearned for a country to call his own. Ravenloft provided in its own unique fashion, giving him a domain fashioned in a fascist dictatorship centered around a permanent police state and military government. Drakov was delighted at first, until he discovered that for all his new status, his new country was a backwater tract of mud surrounded on all sides by more advanced and prosperous domains. Which he tried to invade. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Over and over and over again]], each defeat replacing more of his reputation as a ruthless if successful general with one as a bumbling idiot.
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** Lord Soth, described above, had the chance to prevent a [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt world-shattering cataclysm]] but did not do so out of pride and jealousy. Since then, he had spent the next three hundred years listening to his banshee servants sing the songs of his failures. Eventually, he was transported into Ravenloft to the Land of Mists and given an exact copy of his former castle, perfect in every detail... Except the architecture keeps changing, which drives Soth - accustomed to rigid military order - crazy. *** It's interesting to note, though, that out of all Dark Lords, Soth's Punishment in "Ravenloft" was barely worse than what he already suffered in his native setting of "Dragonlance"."Literature/{{Dragonlance}}". That's probably why he was sent back to Krynn (the world of "Dragonlance"), from both an in-story perspective (his torment probably wasn't satisfying enough for the Mists) and from a meta perspective (he really wasn't that interesting as a Dark Lord). ** Vlad Drakov, a CanonImmigrant from the Dragonlance setting, spent his free time as a mercenary general who won many wars but was constantly looked down upon by his clients as he yearned for a country to call his own. Ravenloft The Dark Powers provided in its their own unique fashion, giving him a domain fashioned in a fascist dictatorship centered around a permanent police state and military government. Drakov was delighted at first, until he discovered that for all his new status, his new country was a backwater tract of mud surrounded on all sides by more advanced and prosperous domains. Which he tried to invade. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Over and over and over again]], each defeat replacing more of his reputation as a ruthless if successful general with one as a bumbling idiot.

** Pharaoh Anhktepot, Ravenloft's token mummy darklord, suffered the Punishment ''twice''. First, Ra punished him for his hubris by making his touch lethal, so he started killing his own subjects until the survivors murdered him. Then the Dark Powers got wind of his misdeeds, and confined this once-mighty king in a tiny domain with just a few hundred inhabitants; now undead, Anhktepot can become alive for a day by sacrificing one of its residents, but he knows that doing so too often means he'll run out of subjects and be alone forever.
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** Pharaoh Anhktepot, Ravenloft's ''Ravenloft's'' token mummy darklord, suffered the Punishment ''twice''. First, Ra punished him for his hubris by making his touch lethal, so he started killing his own subjects until the survivors murdered him. Then the Dark Powers got wind of his misdeeds, and confined this once-mighty king in a tiny domain with just a few hundred inhabitants; now undead, Anhktepot can become alive for a day by sacrificing one of its residents, but he knows that doing so too often means he'll run out of subjects and be alone forever.

** There was also Ravenloft's version of [[TheBluebeard Bluebeard]], who was married several times, kept demanding complete, utter and unquestioning loyalty from his wives, and when they inevitably failed, [[DomesticAbuse brutally murdered them]]. Now as a Darklord he keeps falling in love, again and again... but every time he does so, he sees his new lady love as one of his dead wives. [[NightmareFuel Rotting flesh, dripping maggots, and all]].
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** There was also Ravenloft's ''Ravenloft's'' version of [[TheBluebeard Bluebeard]], who was married several times, kept demanding complete, utter and unquestioning loyalty from his wives, and when they inevitably failed, [[DomesticAbuse brutally murdered them]]. Now as a Darklord he keeps falling in love, again and again... but every time he does so, he sees his new lady love as one of his dead wives. [[NightmareFuel Rotting flesh, dripping maggots, and all]].

** The really twisted element common to all of these punishments is that the darklords' own character flaws which led them to commit their Acts of Ultimate Darkness in the first place are what truly make their existence in Ravenloft a living hell. If they ever worked up the moral strength to acknowledge their mistakes, Ravenloft would no longer be a prison for them. Then again, if they were capable of doing that they probably would never have become darklords in the first place.
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** The really twisted element common to all of these punishments is that the darklords' own character flaws which led them to commit their Acts of Ultimate Darkness in the first place are what truly make their existence in Ravenloft the Land of Mists a living hell. If they ever worked up the moral strength to acknowledge their mistakes, Ravenloft the Demiplane of Dread would no longer be a prison for them. Then again, if they were capable of doing that they probably would never have become darklords in the first place.

* ''MagicTheGathering'' has a few cards that feature this, mostly in black and red. Crovax comes to mind; for killing his guardian angel, he became the extremely powerful Phyrexian vampire overlord of an entire plane.[[/folder]]
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* ''MagicTheGathering'' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has a few cards that feature this, mostly in black and red. Crovax comes to mind; for killing his guardian angel, he became the extremely powerful Phyrexian vampire overlord of an entire plane.[[/folder]]
13th Jun '15 1:34:32 AM Dravencour
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* OlderThanFeudalism: In Myth/GreekMythology, some versions of the Medusa myth say she was originally a beautiful nymph. Her monstrous form, complete with killing everybody who looked at her, was the result of a curse put on her by Athena, for the offense of sexually defiling her temple. (Although this may be unfair: some stories say she was raped.)
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* OlderThanFeudalism: In Myth/GreekMythology, some versions of the Medusa myth say she was originally a beautiful nymph. Her monstrous form, complete with killing everybody who looked at her, was the result of a curse put on her by Athena, for the offense of sexually defiling her temple. (Although this may be unfair: some stories say she was raped.raped by Poseidon.)
8th Jun '15 1:05:46 AM SLthePyro
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* If you can beat ''[[VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys Five Nights at]] [[VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3 Freddy's 3]], you learn that [[spoiler:the resident SerialKiller met his end when the ghosts of the children he murdered tricked him into the Springtrap suit ([[BearTrap which is called that]] ''[[CruelAndUnusualDeath for very]] [[BodyHorror good reasons]]''). The kids are trying to invoke KarmicDeath on the murderer by killing him the same way he hid their corpses in other animatronic suits, which they succeed at before moving onto the afterlife... except then the ''murderer'' begins to haunt ''his'' animatronic suit, giving birth to the unholy terror you've been contending with all throughout the third game.]]
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* If you can beat ''[[VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys Five Nights at]] [[VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3 Freddy's 3]], 3]]'', you learn that [[spoiler:the resident SerialKiller met his end when the ghosts of the children he murdered tricked him into the Springtrap suit ([[BearTrap which is called that]] ''[[CruelAndUnusualDeath for very]] [[BodyHorror good reasons]]''). The kids are trying to invoke KarmicDeath on the murderer by killing him the same way he hid their corpses in other animatronic suits, which they succeed at before moving onto the afterlife... except then the ''murderer'' begins to haunt ''his'' animatronic suit, giving birth to the unholy terror you've been contending with all throughout the third game.]]
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