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30th Apr '16 5:41:19 PM nombretomado
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** [[CanisLatinicus Malus Sceleris]] was the son of a powerful druid. His mother died when he was young and his father was often away battling threats, leaving him alone feeling that his father valued plants and trees more than he did him. One day his father came home wounded and Malus finished the job while "caring" for him by giving him blankets and bandages tainted by disease, afterwards destroying the forest grove his father protected. The Dark Powers gave him immunity to diseases in all forms and the ability to spread disease to others by touch, but also gave him the permanent and unavoidable ability to communicate with plants, who understandably did not have many nice things to say. In his domain, he has made pollution and corruption a way of life in a way a CaptainPlanet villain could only dream of, because if even a single blade of grass existed within a mile of where he stood, he would be tormented by accusations and guilt.

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** [[CanisLatinicus Malus Sceleris]] was the son of a powerful druid. His mother died when he was young and his father was often away battling threats, leaving him alone feeling that his father valued plants and trees more than he did him. One day his father came home wounded and Malus finished the job while "caring" for him by giving him blankets and bandages tainted by disease, afterwards destroying the forest grove his father protected. The Dark Powers gave him immunity to diseases in all forms and the ability to spread disease to others by touch, but also gave him the permanent and unavoidable ability to communicate with plants, who understandably did not have many nice things to say. In his domain, he has made pollution and corruption a way of life in a way a CaptainPlanet ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' villain could only dream of, because if even a single blade of grass existed within a mile of where he stood, he would be tormented by accusations and guilt.
23rd Apr '16 11:18:12 AM Pseudoname
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has a few cards that feature this, mostly in black and red. Crovax comes to mind; for killing his guardian angel, he became the extremely powerful Phyrexian vampire overlord of an entire plane.[[/folder]]

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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has a few cards that feature this, mostly in black and red. Crovax comes to mind; for killing his guardian angel, he became the extremely powerful Phyrexian vampire overlord of an entire plane.plane.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', Prince Apophas committed regicide and was sealed into a sarcophagus with a swarm of flesh eating beetles. After they did their work, his people carved a glyph of damnation into his skull and threw it into the desert. Now he's a swarm of flesh eating beetles bound to his cursed skull that leads an army of mummies and skeletons while harvesting the souls of those he kills in hopes of finding one that can take his place in the afterlife.
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30th Mar '16 8:48:12 AM Morgenthaler
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** The film does provide something of a justification that the curse was feared by those who might use it since the mummy's resurrection would allow him to use incredible power, but it would cause the cursed one to [[AndIMustScream experience]] ''[[AndIMustScream horrific]]'' [[AndIMustScream torment in the afterlife]]. The fact that it starts off with being mummified and sealed alive in a casket with ''flesh eating insects'', with the implication that it gets worse from there, may make the powers granted an odd form of EquivalentExchange.



** Unfortunate? Many freed Remade ([=FreeMade=]) team up with LaResistance, and anyone fighting the status quo in [[CrapsackWorld New Crobuzon...]]



* The Death Knight Lord Soth from the ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' books. He was given a holy quest to stop [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Cataclysm]], but turned away from it to confront his wife, whom he suspected of cheating on him, and then refused to save her when she died in The Cataclysm. For this, he was cursed... with immortality, nigh-invulnerability, and incredible magic power, and the 13 knights that served him were likewise transformed into undead creatures under his control.
** One has to consider that this moment of failure made the unlife of Soth a mockery of all he stood for. Yes he gained power, but never would he know peace.

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* ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'':
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The Death Knight Lord Soth from the ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' books. He was given a holy quest to stop [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Cataclysm]], but turned away from it to confront his wife, whom he suspected of cheating on him, and then refused to save her when she died in The Cataclysm. For this, he was cursed... with immortality, nigh-invulnerability, and incredible magic power, and the 13 knights that served him were likewise transformed into undead creatures under his control.
** One has to consider that this moment of failure made the unlife of Soth a mockery of all he stood for. Yes he gained power, but never would he know peace.
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*** Soth may be an aversion in the very end, depending on who you believe. According to Dragon Magazine in its list of top D&D villains, Soth was indeed transferred to ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'', and ruled his own dimension for a time...and eventually, the torment of that plane (and possibly interaction with a magic mirror of some sort?) got to him, and pushed him into an epiphany. When Takhisis came calling again, Soth rejected her. She slew him, and he finally found peace.
** It's worth noting that, while the 'Punishment' was a rousing success with Soth, various DragonLance gods try it later in the series. It does not work. At all.
** Specifically, Soth in life greatly valued his identity as a KnightInShiningArmor, so being turned into an undead parody of one was legitimately hellish for him. However, when Ausric Krell (a thuggish, backstabbing SmugSnake) is punished in the same way, he quickly decides that being an immortal MagicKnight more than makes up for the drawbacks of undeath in his book. So it's definitely a case where one punishment ''doesn't'' fit all.



** Of course, if they'd told him, he'd probably have sought that out. By the time he was with Buffy, he wanted to keep his soul, but he spent quite awhile trying to make it work with Darla despite his soul.
** And, of course, Darla, Drusilla and Spike killed them all almost immediately after they cursed him. They only had a brief period to get the information across, and the man who did it seemed to be busy gloating.



** This was also the mechanic of ''Series/{{Brimstone}}'', a series that did the Hell's bounty hunter thing years before ''Reaper''. The longer a soul spends in Hell, the more Hell becomes a part of them; the more Hell becomes a part of them, the more unholy power they're able to unleash when they break free.
*** Things get pretty bad when someone escapes who had been in hell for several ''thousand'' years.

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** * This was also the mechanic of ''Series/{{Brimstone}}'', a series that did the Hell's bounty hunter thing years before ''Reaper''. The longer a soul spends in Hell, the more Hell becomes a part of them; the more Hell becomes a part of them, the more unholy power they're able to unleash when they break free.
*** Things get pretty bad when someone escapes who had been in hell for several ''thousand'' years.
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* In one episode of ''TalesFromTheCryptKeeper'' an [[LordErrorProne evil knight]] and his heroic squire set out to kill a vampire. After the knight abandons the squire to save the day alone he gets his comeuppance by being transformed into a vampire himself. This is clearly shown as a terrible punishment, ignoring the implications of a vain, cruel, greedy man being given powerful mind control abilities and NighInvulnerability.
** The punishment itself comes from the fact that he's too much of an idiot to actually USE the abilities he's given, and can no longer [[{{Narcissist}} check out his own reflection in the mirror he carries around]].
** It's not that he's too much of an idiot to make use of the boatload of superpowers that come with his new-found curse: it's that he is that much of a raging narcissist that going 10 minutes without a "Handsome Check" is a [[FateWorseThanDeath horrible, horrifying fate far, far, far worse than the grave could ever offer.]]

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* In one episode of ''TalesFromTheCryptKeeper'' ''WesternAnimation/TalesFromTheCryptKeeper'' an [[LordErrorProne evil knight]] and his heroic squire set out to kill a vampire. After the knight abandons the squire to save the day alone he gets his comeuppance by being transformed into a vampire himself. This is clearly shown as a terrible punishment, ignoring the implications of a vain, cruel, greedy man being given powerful mind control abilities and NighInvulnerability.
** The punishment itself comes from the fact that he's too much of an idiot to actually USE the abilities he's given, and can no longer [[{{Narcissist}} check out his own reflection in the mirror he carries around]].
** It's not that he's too much of an idiot to make use of the boatload of superpowers that come with his new-found curse: it's that he is that much of a raging narcissist that going 10 minutes without a "Handsome Check" is a [[FateWorseThanDeath horrible, horrifying fate far, far, far worse than the grave could ever offer.]]
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28th Mar '16 8:12:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''TheDresdenFiles'' second book, "Fool Moon", there is a character who is under a hereditary curse that turns him into a massive, ''ChaoticEvil'', [[UnstoppableRage unstoppable]], [[TheBerserker berserk]] super-werewolf during the full moon. He doesn't enjoy it but it's a lot worse for everybody else.
* A common punishment in PerdidoStreetStation is to [[BodyHorror replace parts of a person with mechanical or biological parts]], which are always at least inconvenient. But more often completely dehumanizing, crippling, and horrible. Sometimes, as with Jack Half-A-Prayer, they provide an advantage that the judges who imposed the sentence never thought of, making the "reMade" a more dangerous criminal. Since they tend to also be assigned to hard labor, some are given mechanical strength enhancements in order to make them more useful, which also has unfortunate side effects if they get free.

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* In ''TheDresdenFiles'' ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' second book, "Fool Moon", there is a character who is under a hereditary curse that turns him into a massive, ''ChaoticEvil'', [[UnstoppableRage unstoppable]], [[TheBerserker berserk]] super-werewolf during the full moon. He doesn't enjoy it but it's a lot worse for everybody else.
* A common punishment in PerdidoStreetStation Literature/PerdidoStreetStation is to [[BodyHorror replace parts of a person with mechanical or biological parts]], which are always at least inconvenient. But more often completely dehumanizing, crippling, and horrible. Sometimes, as with Jack Half-A-Prayer, they provide an advantage that the judges who imposed the sentence never thought of, making the "reMade" a more dangerous criminal. Since they tend to also be assigned to hard labor, some are given mechanical strength enhancements in order to make them more useful, which also has unfortunate side effects if they get free.



* The Death Knight Lord Soth from the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' books. He was given a holy quest to stop [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Cataclysm]], but turned away from it to confront his wife, whom he suspected of cheating on him, and then refused to save her when she died in The Cataclysm. For this, he was cursed... with immortality, nigh-invulnerability, and incredible magic power, and the 13 knights that served him were likewise transformed into undead creatures under his control.

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* The Death Knight Lord Soth from the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' books. He was given a holy quest to stop [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Cataclysm]], but turned away from it to confront his wife, whom he suspected of cheating on him, and then refused to save her when she died in The Cataclysm. For this, he was cursed... with immortality, nigh-invulnerability, and incredible magic power, and the 13 knights that served him were likewise transformed into undead creatures under his control.
28th Mar '16 8:12:09 AM Morgenthaler
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** To put this in perspective, at one point the character is arrested and thrown into a holding cell, hours before a full moon. The result is a level of devastation that makes the rampage in the police station scene from TheTerminator look positively tame by comparison.
7th Mar '16 12:10:53 AM gophergiggles
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** However, the comics reveal that Sombra's shadowy form is actually his ''true form''.

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** However, In [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW the comics reveal that comics]] continuity, on the other hand, Sombra's shadowy form is actually his ''true form''. form''.
1st Mar '16 10:34:27 PM Cannox
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** However, the comics reveal that Sombra's shadowy form is actually his ''true form''.
14th Feb '16 8:27:53 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The Mark of Cain that Cain received as the first murderer (in ''Literature/TheBible'' and the ''Torah'') is sometimes interpreted as turning him into a terrible monster (the question of why God would [[FridgeLogic punish a murderer by making him several times better at murdering]] is never addressed).

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* The Mark of Cain that Cain received as the first murderer (in ''Literature/TheBible'' and the ''Torah'') is sometimes interpreted as turning him into a terrible monster (the question of why God would [[FridgeLogic punish a murderer by making him several times better significantly more adept at murdering]] is never has yet to be addressed).
27th Jan '16 10:42:27 PM gophergiggles
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' Princess Celestia and Princess Luna defeated King Sombra by "turning him to shadow and banishing him to the ice of the arctic north". Unfortunately when he came back he had [[LivingShadow effectively weaponized the curse and was more dangerous than ever]]. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Good job, your majesties!]]
25th Dec '15 5:34:25 PM Necrodomo
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* All [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Demons]] in [[NexusWar Nexus Clash]] are shades of this trope to some degree or another. [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Namm]], the angelic Elder Power of justice and Law, cursed them with twisted and [[NoCureForEvil unhealable]] forms and banished them to FireAndBrimstoneHell, but player-character Demons are able to harness the curse to become just as powerful as the Angels, who really should have seen this coming. As the [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] puts it:
--> The curse on a Demon is a powerful one, and where there is power there is a source of power.
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