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28th May '18 12:35:21 AM infernape612
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-->'''Stephen Fry''': Now, tell me about the Great Disappointment.
-->'''Jo Brand''': Have you been talking to my husband?
-->[''klaxon'']

-->'''Stephen''': Name a poisonous snake.
-->'''Jimmy Carr''': Piers Morgan.
-->[''klaxon'']

-->'''Stephen''': What has large teeth and only one facial expression?
-->'''Music/BillBailey''': Janet Street-Porter.
-->[''klaxon'']
-->'''Bill Bailey''': I took a fall, but it was WorthIt.

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-->'''Stephen Fry''': Now, tell me about the Great Disappointment.
-->'''Jo
Disappointment.\\
'''Jo
Brand''': Have you been talking to my husband?
-->[''klaxon'']

husband?\\
[''klaxon'']

-->'''Stephen''': Name a poisonous snake.
-->'''Jimmy
snake.\\
'''Jimmy
Carr''': Piers Morgan.
-->[''klaxon'']

Morgan.\\
[''klaxon'']

-->'''Stephen''': What has large teeth and only one facial expression?
-->'''Music/BillBailey''':
expression?\\
'''Music/BillBailey''':
Janet Street-Porter.
-->[''klaxon'']
-->'''Bill
Street-Porter.\\
[''klaxon'']\\
'''Bill
Bailey''': I took a fall, but it was WorthIt.
WorthIt.



** A far more brilliant example than the previous example occurs in ''The Legend of Korra'', and it spans the entire franchise. In the ''ATLA'' finale, [[spoiler: the Lion Turtles and energybending were established as ancient animals and bending arts, respectively, were]] shown in the present day. With the two-part "Beginnings", episodes that came ''five years'' after the ''ATLA'' finale, ''The Legend of Korra'' reveals the former details to be absolutely true. Not only that, but the origin of humans being able to use the elements is also revealed; just as '[[spoiler: the Lion Turtle was able to give Aang an ability, so too were the ancient Lion Turtles, who gave the different elements to humanity!]]. If that weren't enough, the creators realized that the sources of bending were already elaborated upon in ''ATLA'', and to reconcile the sources of bending and the ability to bend, they have [[spoiler: Wan doing the Dancing Dragon]] alongside a dragon, the source that taught how to firebend as established in the previous series. Finally, the idea of the Avatar being connected to both the human world and the spirit world makes a lot more sense with the revelation that [[spoiler: the Avatar is the combination of a human and Raava.]] The Avatar cycle is the way it is because [[spoiler: that is the order in which Wan learned the elements.]] Truly, these episodes were crafted by people who truly love and care for the franchise.

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** A far more brilliant example than the previous example occurs in ''The Legend of Korra'', and it spans the entire franchise. In the ''ATLA'' finale, [[spoiler: the Lion Turtles and energybending were established as ancient animals and bending arts, respectively, were]] shown in the present day. With the two-part "Beginnings", episodes that came ''five years'' after the ''ATLA'' finale, ''The Legend of Korra'' reveals the former details to be absolutely true. Not only that, but the origin of humans being able to use the elements is also revealed; just as '[[spoiler: [[spoiler: the Lion Turtle was able to give Aang an ability, so too were the ancient Lion Turtles, who gave the different elements to humanity!]]. humanity]]! If that weren't enough, the creators realized that the sources of bending were already elaborated upon in ''ATLA'', and to reconcile the sources of bending and the ability to bend, they have [[spoiler: Wan doing the Dancing Dragon]] alongside a dragon, the source that taught how to firebend as established in the previous series. Finally, the idea of the Avatar being connected to both the human world and the spirit world makes a lot more sense with the revelation that [[spoiler: the Avatar is the combination of a human and Raava.]] The Avatar cycle is the way it is because [[spoiler: that is the order in which Wan learned the elements.]] Truly, these episodes were crafted by people who truly love and care for the franchise.
10th May '18 4:51:58 PM chopshop
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* Comic writer John Barber is famous for this; the man remembers ''everything'', and has practically built his career on ArcWelding and crafting complex, gripping stories out of even the tiniest details. His run on IDW’s ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' (co-written with James Roberts, another writer known for this) is full of this, managing to take years upon years of [[DependingOnTheWriter uneven and confused writing]] and weave it all into a comprehensible story.




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* ''Literature/TheCosmere'' has clearly been planned out decades in advance, and Creator/BrandonSanderson rivals Eiichiro Oda in “never forgetting” plot points. The character of Hoid is practically an avatar of this.
25th Apr '18 9:13:22 PM KJMackley
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' contains one scene that was filmed during the prior movie ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', that of Owen and Beru receiving Luke from Obi-Wan. It would have been too expensive to get the actors and crew back out to the Tunisian desert for just one scene, and it was something they knew [[ForegoneConclusion they needed to set up the original trilogy]].
10th Mar '18 12:24:01 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'' has creator Owen Dennis claim the show will be this, with him already knowing how the series will end, which includes every single train car Tulip will pass through.
18th Feb '18 7:39:08 AM Dghcrh
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** From the very beginning of the ''ProfessorLayton'' series, the title professor always wears the same hat, refuses to take it off, and will go to ridiculous lengths to do so. The reason for this is revealed in the ending of the third game.

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** From the very beginning of the ''ProfessorLayton'' ''VideoGame/ProfessorLayton'' series, the title professor always wears the same hat, refuses to take it off, and will go to ridiculous lengths to do so. The reason for this is revealed in the ending of the third game.
7th Feb '18 1:36:20 PM bt8257
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* ''Literature/CatchTwentyTwo'' is one of the best examples of this. The book doesn't follow a linear progression of time. Instead, the narration jumps forward and backward constantly, which can be very confusing to the reader, especially since there is not even a single date mentioned. Ever. The only way to tell when an event described happened is by how many missions the protagonist had flown at the time. Despite the convoluted narration format and the fact that the book features over 20 important characters, there isn't a single Main/PlotHole in the story. Joseph Heller, the book's writer, famously kept [[https://biblioklept.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heller.jpg a detailed graph]] to keep track of the timeline and each character's actions while writing the book, which took him 10 years.

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* ''Literature/CatchTwentyTwo'' is one of the best examples of this. The book doesn't follow a linear progression of time. Instead, the narration jumps forward and backward constantly, which can be very confusing to the reader, especially since there is not even a single date mentioned. Ever. The only way to tell when an event described happened is by how many missions the protagonist had flown at the time. Despite the convoluted narration format and the fact that the book features over 20 important characters, there isn't a single Main/PlotHole PlotHole in the story. Joseph Heller, the book's writer, famously kept [[https://biblioklept.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heller.jpg a detailed graph]] to keep track of the timeline and each character's actions while writing the book, which took him 10 years.he started in 1953; it was first published in 1961.



* As the main description on HBO's ''Series/TheWire'', "all the pieces matter" accurately explains David Simon's plotting of the series well in advance. Multiple plot points are set up a season (or ''multiple'' seasons) in advance, and are foreshadowed so subtly that it requires a second viewing to catch all the instances. Barksdale soldier Bodie[[spoiler:'s death]] is telegraphed right from the third episode of the series. A key witness in Clay Davis' trial in the final season is a chauffer who was (initially thought of as) a bit character in a first-season episode. [[spoiler:Omar]]'s death is foreshadowed more than two seasons before it actually happens via the character of Kenard.

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* As the main description on HBO's ''Series/TheWire'', "all the pieces matter" accurately explains David Simon's plotting of the series well in advance. Multiple plot points are set up a season (or ''multiple'' seasons) in advance, and are foreshadowed so subtly that it requires a second viewing to catch all the instances. Barksdale soldier Bodie[[spoiler:'s death]] is telegraphed right from the third episode of the series. A key witness in Clay Davis' trial in the final season is a chauffer chauffeur who was (initially thought of as) a bit character in a first-season episode. [[spoiler:Omar]]'s death is foreshadowed more than two seasons before it actually happens via the character of Kenard.



** David Anders signed on after being told his character was really [[spoiler: Dr Frankenstein]], which wasn't revealed until early Season 2. Meghan Ory was likewise told that [[spoiler: Red would turn out to be the wolf]] long before it actually happened on the show.

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** David Anders signed on after being told his character was really [[spoiler: Dr Dr. Frankenstein]], which wasn't revealed until early Season 2. Meghan Ory was likewise told that [[spoiler: Red would turn out to be the wolf]] long before it actually happened on the show.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' first appeared to be a pretty entertaining animated show [[StatusQuoIsGod where nothing ever changes]], with the only long-term story arc focusing on the fairly mundane possibility of [[WillTheyOrWontThey Fry and Leela hooking up.]] Cut to where we find out how Fry ended up getting frozen (we can even [[ShownTheirWork see the perpetrator's SHADOW]] in the pilot episode), Bender being buried in the desert, the crew being the crash-landed ship in Roswell, finding out why [[CloudCuckooLander Fry]] is the way is he is, and others. This show was surprisingly well laid-out from the beginning, not a lot felt like it [[TheChrisCarterEffect was made up as they went along.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' first appeared to be a pretty entertaining animated show [[StatusQuoIsGod where nothing ever changes]], with the only long-term story arc focusing on the fairly mundane possibility of [[WillTheyOrWontThey Fry and Leela hooking up.]] Cut to where we find out how Fry ended up getting frozen (we can even [[ShownTheirWork see the perpetrator's SHADOW]] in the pilot episode), Bender being buried in the desert, the crew being the crash-landed ship in Roswell, finding out why [[CloudCuckooLander [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Fry]] is the way is he is, and others. This show was surprisingly well laid-out from the beginning, not a lot felt like it [[TheChrisCarterEffect was made up as they went along.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. One of the most notable example of this comes in the form of an entire character: the ConspiracyTheorist Ronaldo, who not only has many of [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight his theories proven correct]] as the series goes on, but also has some of his more innocuous lines serve as foreshadowing. For example, a season one episode ends with a rant that ''summarized the yet-to-be-explained {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some information in said rambling (such as the identity of the main villains) not even being ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season. The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. One of the most notable example of this comes in the form of an entire character: the ConspiracyTheorist Ronaldo, who not only has many of [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight his theories proven correct]] as the series goes on, but also has some of his more innocuous lines serve as foreshadowing. For example, a season one episode ends with a rant that ''summarized the yet-to-be-explained {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some information in said rambling (such as the identity of the main villains) not even being ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season. The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven 11 minutes long.
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29th Jan '18 11:55:50 PM bt8257
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This trope concerns where the Production Team has clearly ShownTheirWork in regards to the entire show, but more so than just that.

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This trope concerns where the Production Team has clearly ''clearly'' ShownTheirWork in regards to the entire show, but more so than just that.
29th Jan '18 8:25:25 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in the middle of season one in the form of a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes the show' entire {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't even be ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season.[[note]]Almost everything said character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, One of the most notable example of this comes in the form of an entire character: the ConspiracyTheorist Ronaldo, who not only has many of [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in his theories proven correct]] as the middle series goes on, but also has some of his more innocuous lines serve as foreshadowing. For example, a season one in the form of episode ends with a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes ''summarized the show' entire yet-to-be-explained {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information in said rambling (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't not even be being ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season.[[note]]Almost everything said character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] season. The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.
29th Jan '18 8:05:11 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'': the show has had some examples of this so far:
** When Toffee is introduced, the first shot the viewer gets of him is his hand that is missing a finger. In the same episode of his introduction, he says "You're not the first monster to fall victim to [the Butterfly family's] magic." Slowly, the missing finger and Toffee's history with the Butterfly family become important as the series goes on and hints towards what really happened to the finger and how Toffee's motives are partly driven by it.
** In one episode, while Star was trapped in Rhombulus' crystal dimension, there is a FreezeFrameBonus of [[spoiler: Eclipsa trapped in a crystal pillar.]] Come ''The Battle for Mewni'' and it is revealed that this wasn't just a FreezeFrameBonus and has far more importance than initially let on. In an earlier episode, Moon is horrified to learn that Star's magic was being compared to [[spoiler: Eclipsa's.]] This makes a lot more sense when it is shown that Moon actually met [[spoiler: Eclipsa and has seen firsthand what her magic can do.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in the middle of season one in the form of a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes the show' entire {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't even be ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season.[[note]]Almost everything said ConspiracyTheorist character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in the middle of season one in the form of a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes the show' entire {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't even be ''mentioned'' until the end of the following season.[[note]]Almost everything said ConspiracyTheorist character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.
29th Jan '18 7:31:41 PM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in the middle of season one in the form of a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes the show' entire {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't even be ''mentioned'' for another season.[[note]]Almost everything said ConspiracyTheorist character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' was clearly planned out ''very'' far in advance. [[RewatchBonus Rewatch the first season with knowledge of what's to come]] and you'll discover a truly shocking amount of {{Foreshadowing}} and [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Guns]]. Famously, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight there's a joke]] in the middle of season one in the form of a ConspiracyTheorist's rant that ''summarizes the show' entire {{Backstory}} and MythArc'', with some of the rant including information (such as the identity of the main villains) that wouldn't even be ''mentioned'' for another until the end of the following season.[[note]]Almost everything said ConspiracyTheorist character does from that point forward manages to be foreshadowing, even [[http://keepbeachcityweird.tumblr.com/post/148131562416/who-am-i-kidding-i-need-you-jane-chan-much#notes an apology to his girlfriend]].[[/note]] The sheer level of detail that the creators manage to squeeze into every episode is pretty amazing, especially given that said episodes are usually only eleven minutes long.
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