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21st Jul '16 6:34:27 PM WM-R
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* From the Three Kingdoms period of China (made famous by Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms), one of the most famous examples is Zhuge Liang's protege Ma Su. While the Romance portrays him as being young, cocky and overconfident, historically he was a competent officer who managed to contain a large rebellion within Shu's borders long enough for Zhuge Liang to lead reinforcements put the rebellion down. Unfortunately for Ma, Zhuge liked him a lot and put him in charge of a vital position (over more veteran generals). It didn't end well for him.

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* From [[UsefulNotes/ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu the Three Kingdoms period of China China]] (made famous by Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms), one of the most famous examples is Zhuge Liang's protege Ma Su. While the Romance portrays him as being young, cocky and overconfident, historically he was a competent officer who managed to contain a large rebellion within Shu's borders long enough for Zhuge Liang to lead reinforcements put the rebellion down. Unfortunately for Ma, Zhuge liked him a lot and put him in charge of a vital position (over more veteran generals). It didn't end well for him.him.
** An unusual case for Xiahou Dun, TheDragon to [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]. As a general under Cao Cao's command, he performed well. As an independent commander, he once fell into an ambush despite being specifically warned the terrain was perfect for it, and on another occasion actually got so lost he accidentally led his men right into the enemy's main camp (though the enemy, thinking it was a night raid, fled in panic). However, once he was promoted to supreme commander over 28 armies, he was absolutely brilliant. Part of this is because while physically powerful, Xiahou was too HotBlooded to operate as an effective frontline commander, but on the other hand he was an absolute genius at logistics, making him far more suited for high command.
6th Jul '16 12:25:09 PM nielas
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* On ''Series/{{Justified}}'' Mr. Picker is a rather competent henchman for the Detroit Mob and is often the OnlySaneMan when his bosses start to fall apart. He is a firm believer in this trope and prefers to be TheDragon rather then trying to become TheDon. He is proven right in the final season when he is pretty much forced to take over as the Detroit Mob has run out of competent leaders. Things quickly go downhill for him and he starts making the same mistakes that his predecessors did.
25th Jun '16 12:40:33 PM WoodenTable
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* [[WorldWarTwo German General Heinz Guderian]]. A good battlefield commander, he was merely a (barely-)competent operational/campaign commander and a completely incompetent strategist. His [[StrategyVersusTactics neglect of logistics]] was something he shared with many of his contemporaries, but his grasp of the concept was egregiously poor and his attitude to it verged on contempt. Unfortunately for Nazi Germany, but luckily for the wider world, he served as an important operational and strategic-level commander throughout the war.
9th Jun '16 7:12:45 PM PixelKnight
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* Stanley the Plaid of ''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}'' is an excellent frontline fighter and squad leader who wields a weapon forged by the gods. Once he [[KlingonPromotion 'earns' a promotion]] to Overlord, he is totally incompetant at his new role. Worse, since his entire side is a KeystoneArmy with him as the keystone, he can't go out and use his real skills lest he die in battle and doom his entire kingdom.

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* Stanley the Plaid of ''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}'' is an excellent frontline fighter and squad leader who wields a weapon forged by the gods. Once he [[KlingonPromotion 'earns' earns a promotion]] promotion to Overlord, he is totally incompetant at his new role. Worse, since his entire side is a KeystoneArmy with him as the keystone, he can't go out and use his real skills lest he die in battle and doom his entire kingdom.
1st Jun '16 12:40:55 PM EDP
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** This was actually used against him by the [[GenreSavvy Sixth Coalition]] in the 1813 German Campaign: after some initial French success, the Allies, following the [[ThePlan Trachenberg Plan]] put together by [[TheStrategist Clausewitz, Radetzky]] and the Swedish Crown Prince Charles John (formerly one of Napoleon's marshals as Jean Bernadotte), started avoiding battle with Napoleon whenever they could and confronting his marshals]], causing heavy losses to the French and preventing Napoleon from fully taking advantage of his previous victories until they achieved an [[ZergRush overwhelming numerical superiority]], resulting in Napoleon's utter defeat.
13th May '16 6:14:43 AM WM-R
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* From the Three Kingdoms period of China (made famous by Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms), one of the most famous examples is Zhuge Liang's protege Ma Su. While the Romance portrays him as being young, cocky and overconfident, historically he was a competent officer who managed to contain a large rebellion within Shu's borders long enough for Zhuge Liang to lead reinforcements put the rebellion down. Unfortunately for Ma, Zhuge liked him a lot and put him in charge of a vital position (over more veteran generals). It didn't end well for him.
4th May '16 3:38:30 AM ShorinBJ
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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'': Hawkeye and Charles are amazing surgeons, but both have no management skills whatsoever, when Colonel Potter left each of them in charge, Charles basically ignored his duties and Hawkeye quickly degenerated to TheNeidermeyer.

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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'': Hawkeye and Charles are amazing surgeons, but both have no management skills whatsoever, when Colonel Potter left each of them in charge, Charles basically ignored turned the 4077th into his duties personal fiefdom (but did take care of his duties) and Hawkeye quickly degenerated to TheNeidermeyer.
28th Apr '16 10:06:19 AM Thecommander236
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* The tenure/professorship system in universities have been described by the cynical as, "Say, this chap appears to be very good at researching, let promote him so he can spend his entire time doing paperwork!"

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* The tenure/professorship system in universities have been described by the cynical as, "Say, this chap appears to be very good at researching, let let's promote him so he can spend his entire time doing paperwork!"
29th Mar '16 3:07:38 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Team Dai-Gurren in ''Anime/GurrenLagann''. Fighting an action filled, explosion riddled resistance? Easily done. Slowing down after the fighting and running the government you're in charge of? No thanks. Most of them are aware of this and the fighters struggle to deal with their new jobs while the support team has it easier. Simon is on top, but Rossieu does most of the work as his second-in-command. [[spoiler: After Simon's wedding with Nia and her death seconds after, he leaves Rossieu in charge and Lagann to Darry]].

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* Team Dai-Gurren in ''Anime/GurrenLagann''.''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. Fighting an action filled, explosion riddled resistance? Easily done. Slowing down after the fighting and running the government you're in charge of? No thanks. Most of them are aware of this and the fighters struggle to deal with their new jobs while the support team has it easier. Simon is on top, but Rossieu does most of the work as his second-in-command. [[spoiler: After Simon's wedding with Nia and her death seconds after, he leaves Rossieu in charge and Lagann to Darry]].
28th Mar '16 8:35:13 AM ZarbiNerada
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* In ''Literature/HarryPotter'', Ministers of Magic Cornelius Fudge and Rufus Scrimgeour are promoted past their emotional competence. Fudge is too afraid to make hard decisions, and has to see Riddle in person to face reality. Scrimgeour is too proud to ask for advice, and blunders his way through and takes too many cues from [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Bartemius Crouch, Senior]]. Scrimgeour was a competent head of the Aurors, though, and [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath he still dies a hero's death]]]].
** An example of incompetence in a newly-joined hierarchy: Gilderoy Lockhart, for all his ego, is a masterful storyteller. But since flying and memory charms are the only things he can do, teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts is beyond his physical competence.
* Ailnoth in ''[[Literature/BrotherCadfael The Raven in the Foregate]]'' is a competent clerk, but when made a village confessor his HolierThanThou attitude [[DontShootTheMessage imperils the flock]] and drives a parishioner to suicide after he publicly bars her on the (doctrinally unsound) grounds that if the flesh was weak then the spirit was unwilling. After Ailnoth [[IgnoredEpiphany ignores his last epiphany]], [[spoiler:God Himself smites him]].
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