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1st Aug '16 2:13:03 PM Willbyr
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* Headmaster Cross in ''VampireKnight'' does this to Zero, who usually either shrugs off his advice or [[DopeSlap Dope Slaps]] him.

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* Headmaster Cross in ''VampireKnight'' ''Manga/VampireKnight'' does this to Zero, who usually either shrugs off his advice or [[DopeSlap Dope Slaps]] him.



* The spirit of the Harkonnen Cannon in ''{{Hellsing}}'' tries to give Seras his sagely advice. She chooses to ask if her string of bad luck will continue. His answer? "Yep". He revealed a second later that it was a joke.

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* The spirit of the Harkonnen Cannon in ''{{Hellsing}}'' ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' tries to give Seras his sagely advice. She chooses to ask if her string of bad luck will continue. His answer? "Yep". He revealed a second later that it was a joke.



* ''SchoolRumble'' has a scene in which Hanai is being trained by an old man, only for the old man to be escorted away by his grandaughter, who tells him "Grandpa! You know you can't go out alone!"

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* ''SchoolRumble'' ''Manga/SchoolRumble'' has a scene in which Hanai is being trained by an old man, only for the old man to be escorted away by his grandaughter, who tells him "Grandpa! You know you can't go out alone!"
4th Jul '16 2:38:09 AM Morgenthaler
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The most common subversion of TheObiWan, with whom he often forms OpposedMentors. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll and TheBlindLeadingTheBlind. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan. Compare MissionControlIsOffItsMeds.

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The most common subversion of TheObiWan, TheMentor, with whom he often forms OpposedMentors. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll and TheBlindLeadingTheBlind. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan. Compare MissionControlIsOffItsMeds.
24th Jun '16 9:36:57 AM Josef5678
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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler:They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as Lou stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the present day]].

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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], warnings]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler:They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as Lou stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the present day]].
22nd Aug '15 6:22:14 PM nombretomado
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* Athrun Zala can be seen as a more serious and tragic version of this in ''GundamSEEDDestiny''. The intent was probably to have him be the OlderAndWiser mentor to new protagonist Shinn, as happened with Char and Kamille in ''ZetaGundam''. The only problem is Athrun is still working on his own issues (which are [[AesopAmnesia suspiciously similar to the issues he'd worked through in the previous series]]), so most of his interaction with Shinn consists of punching him and calling him an idiot, which only makes Shinn's anger issues and hatred of authority even worse.

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* Athrun Zala can be seen as a more serious and tragic version of this in ''GundamSEEDDestiny''. ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. The intent was probably to have him be the OlderAndWiser mentor to new protagonist Shinn, as happened with Char and Kamille in ''ZetaGundam''.''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam''. The only problem is Athrun is still working on his own issues (which are [[AesopAmnesia suspiciously similar to the issues he'd worked through in the previous series]]), so most of his interaction with Shinn consists of punching him and calling him an idiot, which only makes Shinn's anger issues and hatred of authority even worse.
15th Jul '15 7:21:13 PM Anddrix
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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler:They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as Lou stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the the present day]].

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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler:They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as Lou stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the the present day]].
15th Jul '15 7:19:55 PM Anddrix
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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler: They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as one character stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the the present day]]

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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler: They [[spoiler:They end up defying him, and it turns out to be largely BS as one character Lou stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the the present day]]day]].
20th Jun '15 11:10:09 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Mallrats}}'', Brodie gives advice to TS all the time, but when TS actually takes it... "You're listening to ''me''? To something ''I'' said? Jesus, man, hasn't it become abundantly clear during the tenure of our friendship that I don't know shit?"

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* In ''{{Mallrats}}'', ''Film/{{Mallrats}}'', Brodie gives advice to TS all the time, but when TS actually takes it... "You're listening to ''me''? To something ''I'' said? Jesus, man, hasn't it become abundantly clear during the tenure of our friendship that I don't know shit?"



* ''OutCold'':

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* ''OutCold'':''Film/OutCold'':



* Mr. Blanket, Seven Seas High's guidance counselor from [[TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody The Suite Life On Deck]], is himself certifiably insane, distracts people when they examine his credentials, and despite having written a book on them, his methods are questionable at best.
* ''TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'': When Esteban unexpectedly becomes opulently wealthy, London gives him lessons how to be a snooty, condescending spendthrift. As a result, he finds himself back in the same old rut when his assets are frozen.

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* Mr. Blanket, Seven Seas High's guidance counselor from [[TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody The Suite Life On Deck]], ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOnDeck'', is himself certifiably insane, distracts people when they examine his credentials, and despite having written a book on them, his methods are questionable at best.
* ''TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'': ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'': When Esteban unexpectedly becomes opulently wealthy, London gives him lessons how to be a snooty, condescending spendthrift. As a result, he finds himself back in the same old rut when his assets are frozen.



* Polonius from {{Hamlet}}: half his advice to his son contradicts the other half, and when you look at his actions toward the royal family it's clear he's just trying to ingratiate himself at Hamlet's expense.

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* Polonius from {{Hamlet}}: Theatre/{{Hamlet}}: half his advice to his son contradicts the other half, and when you look at his actions toward the royal family it's clear he's just trying to ingratiate himself at Hamlet's expense.
12th Jun '15 11:00:18 AM ShinyTsukkomi
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* ''InfiniteRyvius'' actually has two examples, one is Zwei "leader" Lucson, who tries to take command and fails miserably. Heck, arguably every "leader" of the cast fits this to some degree, but a particular example should probably be Julii: Everyone expects her to be a great leader, but she turns out to be (and acknowledges that she is) really bad at it.

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* ''InfiniteRyvius'' ''Anime/InfiniteRyvius'' actually has two examples, one is Zwei "leader" Lucson, who tries to take command and fails miserably. Heck, arguably every "leader" of the cast fits this to some degree, but a particular example should probably be Julii: Everyone expects her to be a great leader, but she turns out to be (and acknowledges that she is) really bad at it.
21st May '15 6:02:17 PM nombretomado
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* In an episode of ''HannahMontana'', Hannah has found that kids will emulate just about everything she does, and is afraid to ever express her opinions or preferences on television. As such, Robbie Ray enlists Jackson to school her in the fine art of obfuscation. Of course, it backfires horribly, and Hannah ends up delivering the episode's {{Aesop}} about [[BeYourself being yourself]] instead.
* ''[[That70sShow That '70s Show]]'': [[MagnificentBastard Hyde]] has made a sport out of giving his friends faulty advice for the amusement of seeing them make jackasses of themselves. His favorite target is Kelso (who still listens because he's [[TheDitz so irremediably stupid]],) though he enjoys tormenting [[FunnyForeigner Fez]] almost as much.
* Colonel Rodney Crittendon from ''HogansHeroes''. This re-occuring character was in some ways the Allies answer to the German's Colonel Klink. This British officer would get captured frequently and sent to Stalag 13 with Hogan and his crack team of deep cover saboteurs. He was technically higher ranked then Colonel Hogan (by date of promotion, as Crittendon would frequently remind Hogan) and would often usurp Hogan's Authority. Crittendon was just too incompetent and genre-blind to be anything less then a complete hindrance, though the clever spies would occasionally manage to use his bumbling stupidity to their advantage. What makes him an Obi Wannabe is the endless string of bad ideas and plans he would concoct for the "escape" from the POW camp: Unbeknownst to Crittendon, Hogan and his team have no intention of escaping, as the very premise of the show consists in them using the fact that they were under the supervision of the incompetent Commandant Klink and the incredibly lazy and corruptible Sergeant Shultz to launch various sabotage and subterfuge operations from deep within Nazi territory.

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* In an episode of ''HannahMontana'', ''Series/HannahMontana'', Hannah has found that kids will emulate just about everything she does, and is afraid to ever express her opinions or preferences on television. As such, Robbie Ray enlists Jackson to school her in the fine art of obfuscation. Of course, it backfires horribly, and Hannah ends up delivering the episode's {{Aesop}} about [[BeYourself being yourself]] instead.
* ''[[That70sShow That '70s Show]]'': ''Series/That70sShow'': [[MagnificentBastard Hyde]] has made a sport out of giving his friends faulty advice for the amusement of seeing them make jackasses of themselves. His favorite target is Kelso (who still listens because he's [[TheDitz so irremediably stupid]],) though he enjoys tormenting [[FunnyForeigner Fez]] almost as much.
* Colonel Rodney Crittendon from ''HogansHeroes''.''Series/HogansHeroes''. This re-occuring character was in some ways the Allies answer to the German's Colonel Klink. This British officer would get captured frequently and sent to Stalag 13 with Hogan and his crack team of deep cover saboteurs. He was technically higher ranked then Colonel Hogan (by date of promotion, as Crittendon would frequently remind Hogan) and would often usurp Hogan's Authority. Crittendon was just too incompetent and genre-blind to be anything less then a complete hindrance, though the clever spies would occasionally manage to use his bumbling stupidity to their advantage. What makes him an Obi Wannabe is the endless string of bad ideas and plans he would concoct for the "escape" from the POW camp: Unbeknownst to Crittendon, Hogan and his team have no intention of escaping, as the very premise of the show consists in them using the fact that they were under the supervision of the incompetent Commandant Klink and the incredibly lazy and corruptible Sergeant Shultz to launch various sabotage and subterfuge operations from deep within Nazi territory.
21st Apr '15 6:48:46 PM eowynjedi
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* The Dream Oracle of ''Webcomic/CucumberQuest'' is ostensibly the BigGood who guides the hero (in this case, the reluctant Cucumber) on his quest to defeat the Nightmare Knight. But she can't tell him from an obvious thief, isn't half as omniscient as she acts, is rude and dismissive, and has a knack for avoiding responsibility.
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