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14th Jan '18 3:27:33 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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The [=McCoy=] is another part of the FreudianTrio, along with TheKirk and TheSpock. (Specifically, the Id.) Where the former is rational and [[TakeAThirdOption intuitive]], and the latter is [[TheStoic cold]] and logical, the [=McCoy=] is [[HotBlooded emotional]] and [[TheHeart humanistic]]. He cares about others deeply; for him doing the right thing is not a question of convenience or moral relativity, but about the concrete reality ''right now''. Which is to say, someone like TheKirk cares about saving people; the [=McCoy=] cares about making things ''right''. This often leads the heroes into hot water as this concern for others blinds him to complications in the MoralDilemma of the week and leads him to advocate (or take it upon himself to do) "the right thing", regardless of how disastrous it would be in the short or long run.

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The [=McCoy=] is another part of the FreudianTrio, along with TheKirk and TheSpock. (Specifically, the Id.) Where the former is rational and [[TakeAThirdOption intuitive]], and the latter is [[TheStoic cold]] and logical, the [=McCoy=] is [[HotBlooded emotional]] and [[TheHeart humanistic]]. He cares about others deeply; for him doing the right thing is not a question of convenience or moral relativity, but about the concrete reality ''right now''. Which is to say, someone like TheKirk cares about saving people; the [=McCoy=] cares about making things ''right''. That is to say, when placed in front of the ToBeLawfulOrGood dilemma, the [=McCoy=] will always choose the "Good" option in a heartbeat. This often leads the heroes into hot water as this concern for others blinds him to complications in the MoralDilemma of the week and leads him to advocate (or take it upon himself to do) "the right thing", regardless of how disastrous it would be in the short or long run.
20th Dec '17 4:50:11 AM Alexia
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*** While Teal'c is usually the Spock, he has had his time as the [=McCoy=], usually when someone does something sends him on a RoaringRampageofRevenge. There was an entire episode dedicated to such an event.

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*** While Teal'c is usually the Spock, he has had his time as the [=McCoy=], usually when someone does something sends him on a RoaringRampageofRevenge.RoaringRampageOfRevenge. There was an entire episode dedicated to such an event.
30th Aug '17 9:25:26 PM Luppercus
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** The counterbalance can be seen in some episodes. In '"The Enemy Within" for example is Spock the one arguing for taking risks in order to save lives and [=McCoy=] the one wanting to take things slow and use the scientific method before any impuslive action.

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** The counterbalance can be seen in some episodes. In '"The Enemy Within" for example is Spock the one arguing for taking risks in order to save lives and [=McCoy=] the one wanting to take things slow and use the scientific method before any impuslive impulsive action.
30th Aug '17 9:24:09 PM Luppercus
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** The counterbalance can be seen in some episodes. In '"The Enemy Within" for example is Spock the one arguing for taking risks in order to save lives and [=McCoy=] the one wanting to take things slow and use the scientific method before any impuslive action.



** Although Doctor Smith was closer to TheSpock with his self-serving interests, he had quite a few PetTheDog moments of humanistic behaviour himself.
25th Jul '17 10:33:14 AM Allronix
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* Another take is in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' where Carth and Mission tend to take turns on this. They're higher on the KarmaMeter than the party's Jedi, quick to lose their tempers or say something sarcastic to someone's shady operation, and faster to call WhatTheHellHero when the PlayerCharacter does something dark-sided. Mission is a little more so because she's fourteen years old and hasn't grown up enough to see the point of gray morality. Carth believes more in the ideals of the Republic than the actual law, and has little use for LawfulStupid Jedi dogma.

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* Another take is in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' where Carth and Mission tend to take turns on this. They're higher on the KarmaMeter than the party's Jedi, quick to lose their tempers or say something sarcastic to about someone's shady operation, and faster to call WhatTheHellHero when the PlayerCharacter does something dark-sided. Mission is a little more so because she's fourteen years old and hasn't grown up enough to see the point of gray morality. Carth believes more in the ideals of the Republic than the actual law, and has little use for LawfulStupid Jedi dogma.dogma, and decides that he's going to be TheConscience for your PlayerCharacter.
25th Jul '17 9:30:55 AM Allronix
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* Another take is in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' where Carth and Mission tend to take turns on this. They're higher on the KarmaMeter than the party's Jedi, quick to lose their tempers or say something sarcastic to someone's shady operation, and faster to call WhatTheHellHero when the PlayerCharacter does something dark-sided. Mission is a little more so because she's fourteen years old and hasn't grown up enough to see the point of gray morality. Carth believes more in the ideals of the Republic than the actual law, and has little use for LawfulStupid Jedi dogma.
24th Jun '17 6:39:19 PM Dravencour
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''"By God, [[TheKirk Jim]]! You can't seriously be considering this! [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight Screw the]] [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]], [[NoTimeToExplain there's no time for debate!]] We have to act now to [[SaveThePrincess rescue the]] HighPriestess; [[FriendOrIdolDecision forget]] the MacGuffin and think about doing what's right!''\\\

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''"By God, [[TheKirk Jim]]! You can't seriously be considering this! [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight Screw the]] [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]], [[NoTimeToExplain there's no time for debate!]] We have to act now to [[SaveThePrincess rescue the]] HighPriestess; [[FriendOrIdolDecision forget]] the MacGuffin and think about doing what's right!''\\\right!''
10th Jun '17 10:24:57 AM nombretomado
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* Maria Theresa often seems to come off as a [=McCoy=]. Like [[WinstonChurchill Churchill]], she had her [[LadyOfWar ruthless side]] though. It comes with [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask the job]].

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* Maria Theresa often seems to come off as a [=McCoy=]. Like [[WinstonChurchill [[UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill Churchill]], she had her [[LadyOfWar ruthless side]] though. It comes with [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask the job]].
1st Jun '17 3:49:01 AM jormis29
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* Ironically, Jack [=McCoy=] of ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is not the [=McCoy=] for the show. That role is typically filled by the female A.D.A., except when Angie Harmon played that role as a conservative Republican, so they made the new D.A. a female college professor, and made ''her'' the [=McCoy=]. Of course, some can take it too far: Serena Southerlyn was too much the [=McCoy=], which resulted in her being fired. This also led to an example of SuddenlySexuality.

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* Ironically, Jack [=McCoy=] of ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is not the [=McCoy=] for the show. That role is typically filled by the female A.D.A., except when Angie Harmon Creator/AngieHarmon played that role as a conservative Republican, so they made the new D.A. a female college professor, and made ''her'' the [=McCoy=]. Of course, some can take it too far: Serena Southerlyn was too much the [=McCoy=], which resulted in her being fired. This also led to an example of SuddenlySexuality.
10th Apr '17 5:16:43 PM mlsmithca
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* Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick
** Durkon and Elan sometimes fall into this, in contrast with Versuvius's TheSpock. Elan gets in trouble because of his good heart and poor sense, but gets out of it through his charisma and dumb luck. Durkon is more restrained, and forms an inversion of the usual temperaments with TheSpock, as he is an emotional rock compared to Versuvius's fierce intellectualism.

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* Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick
''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** Durkon and Elan sometimes fall into this, in contrast with Versuvius's Vaarsuvius's TheSpock. Elan gets in trouble because of his good heart and poor sense, but gets out of it through his charisma and dumb luck. Durkon is more restrained, and forms an inversion of the usual temperaments with TheSpock, as he is an emotional rock compared to Versuvius's Vaarsuvius's fierce intellectualism.
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