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10th Aug '16 8:15:58 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series, an EnemyCivilWar divides the Covenant between the Elites and the Brutes. The Elites join forces with the humans and eventually make peace with humanity when the war ends.

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series, an EnemyCivilWar divides ends up dividing the Covenant between the honor-bound Elites and the viscous Brutes. The Elites Many Elites, having already respected humanity as a WorthyOpponent, join forces with the humans against both the Covenant and the Flood, and eventually make peace with humanity when the war ends.ends, with several Elites fully becoming the Good in their own right.
8th Aug '16 6:04:00 PM Arcana4th
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* In ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' the Future Foundation can be divided in the Good, which are Makoto, the survivors of class 78th and the ones helping them(Tengan, Great Gozu, Gekkogahara and Mitarai); The Bad, composed by the Radical Faction, Munakata, Sakakura, Kimura, Andou, Izayoi and Yukizome and The Evil, who is the one behind the Final Killing Game.
** As of episode 5, it's ambiguous wether Munakata and Sakakura are still Bad, [[spoiler: Munakata goes into SanitySlippage and begins to try to kill everybody for varying reasons, and Sakakura who was already [[ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption far more violent than needed]] would follow him anyway]], they could be considered Evil as well.
29th Jul '16 11:01:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''DuneII'', ''Dune 2000'' and ''Emperor: Battle For Dune'' games you have 3 playable factions (minus the subfactions, you can be allied to those) that fit this trope, the good House Atreides, the insidious House Ordos that is willing to do nasty things if necessary for it's endless pursuit of wealth and probably drugs its citizens to make them more submissive, vs. the evil House Harkonnen who are a royal house consisting almost entirely of perverted, deranged psychopaths who enslave, backstab, and a lot of other nasty things and their soldiers are more afraid of them than their enemy.

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* In the ''DuneII'', ''VideoGame/DuneII'', ''Dune 2000'' and ''Emperor: Battle For Dune'' games you have 3 playable factions (minus the subfactions, you can be allied to those) that fit this trope, the good House Atreides, the insidious House Ordos that is willing to do nasty things if necessary for it's endless pursuit of wealth and probably drugs its citizens to make them more submissive, vs. the evil House Harkonnen who are a royal house consisting almost entirely of perverted, deranged psychopaths who enslave, backstab, and a lot of other nasty things and their soldiers are more afraid of them than their enemy.
2nd Jul '16 8:57:53 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Generation Next's original Wrestling/RingOfHonor unit ended up [[HeelFaceTurn turning face]] in the face of the eviler Embassy of Prince Nana and then the invading forces of Wrestling/{{CZW}}. When those were done however, the remaining members split to form three groups, three face one heel. The heel "No Remorse Corps" of Wrestling/RoderickStrong face trio of Wrestling/AustinAries, Erik Stevens and Matt Cross...which went nowhere thanks Aries and Strong being scouted by Wrestling/{{TNA}} to start another version Generation Next there, and Jack Evans starting the Vulture Squad to even the odds against established heel threats [=Hangm3m=] and The Age Of The Fall. Age Of The Fall were themselves undone when their heir apparent Wrestling/TylerBlack proved popular enough to turn face.
26th Jun '16 10:21:24 AM permeakra
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** The recent codex made Necrons more OK. On the other hand Tyranids are a threat for everyone so huge that all the other faction would unite and fight them in a united front if needed. Of course, the alliance won't last long, but still.
** Despite being classified as Evil, Chaos is really interested in humanity continuous survival. After all, nobody fed them so well yet...
7th Jun '16 12:07:34 PM nighttrainfm
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* The WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague temporarily side with the Legion of Doom against Darkseid and his army.
** Darkseid was inadvertently revived by a ritual Lex Luthor intended for Brainiac but sabotaged by Tala as payback. Luthor rather sensibly went straight to the League and explained there was going to be an alien invasion now and the planet needed saving, let us help. The League [[MercyLead gave them a five-minute head start]] afterward.

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* The WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague temporarily side with In the Legion GrandFinale of Doom against Darkseid and his army.
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''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Darkseid was inadvertently revived by a ritual Lex Luthor intended for Brainiac but was sabotaged by Tala as payback. Luthor rather sensibly went straight to the League and explained there was going to be an alien invasion now and the planet needed saving, let us help. The League [[MercyLead gave them a five-minute head start]] afterward.
7th Jun '16 12:05:52 PM nighttrainfm
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* ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' has the Hellsing Organization ([[{{Antihero}} mostly good]]), the Iscariots ([[KnightTemplar bad]]), and Millennium ([[ThoseWackyNazis evil]]). At the end of the series the Iscariots briefly [[strike: team up with]] leave Hellsing alone to fight Millennium [[spoiler: but end up being annihilated by Alucard when their leader crosses the MoralEventHorizon]].
* The first third of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'''s Frieza Saga is a three-way war between Gohan and Krillin (the Good), previous saga villain Vegeta (the Bad) and BigBad Frieza and his army (the Evil). The exact words of the trope were used by Creator/CartoonNetwork to advertise it at one point, referring to Goku, Vegeta and Frieza respectively.

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* ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' has the Hellsing Organization ([[{{Antihero}} mostly good]]), the Iscariots ([[KnightTemplar bad]]), and Millennium ([[ThoseWackyNazis evil]]). At the end of the series the Iscariots briefly [[strike: team up with]] leave Hellsing alone to fight Millennium [[spoiler: but end up being annihilated by Alucard when their leader crosses the MoralEventHorizon]].
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* The first third of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'''s Frieza Saga is a three-way war between Gohan and Krillin (the Good), previous saga villain Vegeta (the Bad) and BigBad Frieza and his army (the Evil). The good and the bad end up joining forces when Frieza summons the Ginyu Force. The exact words of the trope were used by Creator/CartoonNetwork to advertise it at one point, referring to Goku, Vegeta and Frieza respectively.
17th May '16 9:27:26 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Elpizo [[spoiler: can be considered to be all three. He starts out with the Resistance (that's the Good part), and although he certainly never rejoins Neo Arcadia, his hatred of it causes him to become an AntiVillain (that's the Bad part) who stoops to using (and more importantly unleashing) the SealedEvilInACan that was created by the true villian Dr. Weil (that's the Evil part). Moreover, that power ''itself'' was originally a force of good, which was corrupted by Weil.]]
17th May '16 9:26:29 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Continued in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', with the Three Ship Alliance which retains most of its membership, the supposedly [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] ZAFT forces under [[DarkMessiah Chairman Durandal]], and the Blue Cosmos/LOGOS forces who are pretty much evil.

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** Continued in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', with * ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'': the Three Ship Alliance which retains most of its membership, the supposedly [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] ZAFT forces under [[DarkMessiah Chairman Durandal]], and the Blue Cosmos/LOGOS forces who are pretty much evil.



** Greed worked for Father, too; they just had their family strife civil war ''before'' the plot began. Or the main characters were even born.



* In StarWarsLegacy, it is finally estabilished for good in StarWars canon. The Empire is split into Darth Krayt's Sith Empire (the evil) and Roan Fel's Empire (dictatorial but not really evil).

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* In StarWarsLegacy, ''StarWarsLegacy'', it is finally estabilished established for good in StarWars canon. The Empire is split into Darth Krayt's Sith Empire (the evil) and Roan Fel's Empire (dictatorial but not really evil).



* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' does this with the second coup d'etat of Haven, firmly putting the Anti Villain group in control of the government, and a lot of the former SS and power hungry types out on the run as renegades. Notable for having it simply flip the status quo in a few areas: there're still bad Havenites, but now they're the exception rather than the rule.
** Even before the second change of government, Haven filled the role of "the bad" when it came to the relationship between Manticore, Haven, and Mesa/Manpower Inc. There were references that Manticore and Haven not only shared a loathing for Manpower, Haven was considered, even by Manticorans, to be the more dedicated opponent to slavery.
* After the Emperor's death, the Empire in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse started breaking up. Various captains and admirals left with their forces and became warlords, sometimes rejoining the Empire later, sometimes the New Republic, sometimes becoming isolationist, and most often fighting everyone. ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' and three books of the Literature/XWingSeries deal with the New Republic's campaign against Warlord Zsinj. In ''Courtship'' he's a cardboard baddie, but in the Literature/XWingSeries he's really clever and nasty. Enough so that both the Empire and the New Republic form task forces to take him down, and surreptitiously they end up working together, both aware that this wouldn't last and if this cooperation was ever reported they'd face treason charges.

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* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' does this with the second coup d'etat of Haven, firmly putting the Anti Villain group in control of the government, and a lot of the former SS and power hungry types out on the run as renegades. Notable for having it simply flip the status quo in a few areas: there're still bad Havenites, but now they're the exception rather than the rule.
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rule. Even before the second change of government, Haven filled the role of "the bad" when it came to the relationship between Manticore, Haven, and Mesa/Manpower Inc. There were references that Manticore and Haven not only shared a loathing for Manpower, Haven was considered, even by Manticorans, to be the more dedicated opponent to slavery.
* After the Emperor's death, the Empire in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse started breaking up.
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Various captains and admirals left with their forces and became warlords, sometimes rejoining the Empire later, sometimes the New Republic, sometimes becoming isolationist, and most often fighting everyone. ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' and three books of the Literature/XWingSeries deal with the New Republic's campaign against Warlord Zsinj. In ''Courtship'' he's a cardboard baddie, but in the Literature/XWingSeries he's really clever and nasty. Enough so that both the Empire and the New Republic form task forces to take him down, and surreptitiously they end up working together, both aware that this wouldn't last and if this cooperation was ever reported they'd face treason charges.



* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Johnny Marcone turned out to be such an [[BadassNormal intensely awesome]] AntiVillain that he's on Harry's side more often than not. This irritates Harry, who really, really wants to be able to write him off as "criminal scum," but has some trouble with that when Marcone is going to incredible lengths [[spoiler:just to try to get a girl out of a coma.]]

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':
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Johnny Marcone turned out to be such an [[BadassNormal intensely awesome]] AntiVillain that he's on Harry's side more often than not. This irritates Harry, who really, really wants to be able to write him off as "criminal scum," but has some trouble with that when Marcone is going to incredible lengths [[spoiler:just to try to get a girl out of a coma.]]



** Do note, though, that ''Vin'' is the one who states something along the lines of "Good? Bad? I'm just here to kill people."
** At one point in his [[http://www.brandonsanderson.com/annotation/162/Mistborn-Chapter-Thirty-Four-Part-One commentary]], Sanderson points out that a particular fight is "a good, old-fashioned showdown between good and evil! Or, at least, between Kelsier and evil".



* ''Series/SonsOfAnarchy'' takes this and shifts it a few steps down the morality scale. The Sons are at best a mix of NominalHero andVillainProtagonist group and tend to team up with some very nasty people to take on enemies who are even nastier characters.
** The IRA are a long time ally and business partner of the Sons but lately Jimmy O'Fallon is trying to cut the Sons out of the lucrative gun running business. However, he has a lot of enemies among the other leaders of the IRA and they try to use the Sons as a weapon against Jimmy. So while Jimmy is the evil guy, it is a toss up whether the Sons or the IRA are the 'good guys' in this mess.
** Well, Hale could have been considered the "Good" [[spoiler: until they killed him]]. And really only Clay and Gemma can be considered Villain Protagonists, the others are more {{nominal hero}}es with Jax and Opie straddling the line between NominalHero and AntiHero.

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* ''Series/SonsOfAnarchy'' takes this and shifts it a few steps down the morality scale. The Through most of the show, the Sons are at best a mix of NominalHero andVillainProtagonist group and tend to {{Nominal Hero}}es or {{Anti Hero}}es who team up with some very nasty people local law enforcement and other gangs to take on enemies who are out even nastier characters.
** The IRA are a long time ally and business partner of the Sons but lately Jimmy O'Fallon is trying to cut the Sons out of the lucrative gun running business. However, he has a lot of enemies among the other leaders of the IRA and they try to use the Sons as a weapon against Jimmy. So while Jimmy is the evil guy, it is a toss up whether the Sons or the IRA are the 'good guys' in this mess.
** Well, Hale could have been considered the "Good" [[spoiler: until they killed him]]. And really only Clay and Gemma can be considered Villain Protagonists, the others are more {{nominal hero}}es with Jax and Opie straddling the line between NominalHero and AntiHero.
worse gangs, like skinheads.



* Season 2 of ''Series/{{Nikita}}'' is shaping up like this, with [[TheHero Nikita]] and her allies as the Good, [[GovernmentConspiracy Division]] and their ManBehindTheMan [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Oversight]] as the Bad, and [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Gogol]] and ''their'' ManBehindTheMan [[MegaCorp Zetrov]] as the Evil.
** Though it should be noted that Division only seems better than Gogol and Zetrov because [[SupportingProtagonist Alex]] is in an EnemyMine against the latter two with the former. And on top of that, somewhere between Bad and Evil we have Amanda (who runs Division but is now [[TheStarscream plotting against]] Oversight) and Percy (who's plotting against ''everyone'').
** Following the status quo changing events about midway through the season, the list is a bit different now--Team Nikita is still the Good [[spoiler: along with the {{Heel Face Turn}}ed last living members of Oversight]], but Zetrov's head Semak is now closer to the Bad, and the Evil can be best represented by Amanda [[spoiler: and her partner Ari (Semak's [[TheStarscream Starscream]])]], with Percy still somewhere between Bad and Evil.
* ''Series/TheWire'': Starting roughly in Season 3, the cops of the Major Crimes Unit (no angels, but on their side--most of the time) are the Good, the Barksdale Organization and Proposition Joe's Organization (well-established Baltimore drug dealers, willing to use violence but preferring peaceful settlements as better for business) are the Bad, and the Stanfield Organization (run by the ruthless and cold-blooded sociopath Marlo Stanfield) is the Evil. Defied in Season 4 when [[spoiler:longtime drug dealer and unrepentant thug Bodie, a former Barksdale footsoldier/slinger now operating freelance--develops a case of EvenEvilHasStandards and somewhat reluctantly agrees to inform on Marlo to the police. Marlo has Bodie killed before this can happen, and no one else dares cross Marlo in a similar way.]]

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* Season 2 of ''Series/{{Nikita}}'' is shaping up like this, with [[TheHero Nikita]] and her allies as the Good, [[GovernmentConspiracy Division]] and their ManBehindTheMan [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Oversight]] as the Bad, and [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Gogol]] and ''their'' ManBehindTheMan [[MegaCorp Zetrov]] as the Evil.
** Though it should be noted that Division only seems better than Gogol and Zetrov because [[SupportingProtagonist Alex]] is in an EnemyMine against the latter two with the former. And on top of that, somewhere between Bad and Evil we have Amanda (who runs Division but is now [[TheStarscream plotting against]] Oversight) and Percy (who's plotting against ''everyone'').
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Evil. Following the status quo changing events about midway through the season, the list is a bit different now--Team changed: Team Nikita is still the Good [[spoiler: along with the {{Heel Face Turn}}ed last living members of Oversight]], but Zetrov's head Semak is now closer to the Bad, and the Evil can be best represented by Amanda [[spoiler: and her partner Ari (Semak's [[TheStarscream Starscream]])]], with Percy still somewhere between Bad and Evil.
* ''Series/TheWire'': Starting roughly in Season 3, the cops of the Major Crimes Unit (no angels, but on their side--most of the time) are the Good, the Barksdale Organization and Proposition Joe's Organization (well-established Baltimore drug dealers, willing to use violence but preferring peaceful settlements as better for business) are the Bad, and the Stanfield Organization (run by the ruthless and cold-blooded sociopath Marlo Stanfield) is the Evil. Defied in Season 4 when [[spoiler:longtime drug dealer and unrepentant thug Bodie, a former Barksdale footsoldier/slinger now operating freelance--develops a case of EvenEvilHasStandards and somewhat reluctantly agrees to inform on Marlo to the police. Marlo has Bodie killed before this can happen, and no one else dares cross Marlo in a similar way.]]



* ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'', once George Hearst shows up in season two. Seth Bullock is the face of the Good; he's not the morally purest person around, but his devotion to justice makes him at least [[AntiHero more heroic]] than others. Al Swearengen's faction, Bullock's antagonists in the first season, are the Bad; a pimp and his cronies attempting to prevent the town from rising above the status of OutlawTown so they won't have to deal with the government. Hearst, though, is a NietzscheWannabe mining magnate who doesn't shrink from having competitors, unionisers and those who've personally slighted him murdered by hired guns, and who openly seeks to buy the town wholesale by whatever combination of corruption and violence will best suit the job.
* ''Series/{{Continuum}}'' has a variant of this in the third season finale. Good and Bad ([[spoiler:Kiera, Brad, and Liber8]]) team up to take out, not a bad guy who's EvilerThanThou, but a former good guy ([[spoiler: Original!Alec]]) who's sliding down the slippery slope. Overall, the show starts out with Liber8 as the Evil and Kiera and the police (represented by Dillon) as the Good, but shows an increasingly KnightTemplar-ish Dillon sliding into the Evil spot.

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* ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'', once George Hearst shows up in season two. Seth Bullock is the face of the Good; he's not the morally purest person around, but his devotion to justice makes him at least [[AntiHero more heroic]] than others. Al Swearengen's faction, Bullock's antagonists in the first season, are the Bad; they're a pimp and his cronies attempting to prevent the town from rising above the status of OutlawTown so they won't have to deal with the government. Hearst, though, is a NietzscheWannabe mining magnate who doesn't shrink from having competitors, unionisers and those who've personally slighted him murdered by hired guns, and who openly seeks to buy will see the town wholesale by whatever combination of corruption and violence will best suit the job.
utterly destroyed if it attempts to resist his complete domination.
* ''Series/{{Continuum}}'' has a variant of this in the third season finale. Good and Bad ([[spoiler:Kiera, Brad, and Liber8]]) team up to take out, not a bad guy who's EvilerThanThou, but a former good guy ([[spoiler: Original!Alec]]) the original Alec]]) who's sliding down the slippery slope. Overall, the show starts out with Liber8 as the Evil and Kiera and the police (represented by Dillon) as the Good, but shows an increasingly KnightTemplar-ish Dillon sliding into the Evil spot.



** This also applies to TheMovie, where Victor joins forces with Sibuna to stop Sophia, who was the evil one.



** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' had the Warden (the Good), Teyrn Loghain and his posse (the Bad), and the Darkspawn Horde (the Evil).
*** In universe, mages and templars see themselves as the Good, each other as the Bad, and Abominations as the Evil.

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** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' had the Warden (the Good), Teyrn Loghain and his posse (the Bad), and the Darkspawn Horde (the Evil).
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Evil). In universe, mages and templars see themselves as the Good, each other as the Bad, and Abominations as the Evil.
17th May '16 9:17:11 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** The gang ''itself'' would also qualify. Two of the protagonists are bad, but they usually prefer not to kill anyone unless they absolutely have to, and they try to make sure no civilians get hurt. Another protagonist is evil; he's a sociopath who has no problem killing cops just for fun and then justifying the murders to the other three characters. The fourth member is good, largely because [[spoiler:he's an undercover FBI agent]].
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