History Main / TheGoodChancellor

12th Jan '16 4:12:33 PM wrm5
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* In the original ''Literature/ArabianNights'' stories, [[GrandVizierJafar Jafar]], vizier to the Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these.
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* In the original ''Literature/ArabianNights'' stories, [[GrandVizierJafar [[UsefulNotes/GrandVizierJafar Jafar]], vizier to the Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these.

** There's also a description of how to make a good vizier in the character creation section, but with a caveat that the Evil GrandVizier is an expected trope of the genre...
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** There's also a description of how to make a good vizier in the character creation section, but with a caveat that the Evil GrandVizier UsefulNotes/GrandVizier is an expected trope of the genre...
17th Nov '15 4:34:45 AM Yora
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Not an example. Post-Empire chancelors are elected leaders of a republic, not second in command to a monarch.
* [[TheChancellorsOfGermany Konrad Adenauer]], the BadassGrandpa chancellor of the [[WestGermany Federal Republic of Germany]] from 1949 to 1963. He led Germany through the postwar reconstruction, beat down both Fascist and Communist threats, brought Germany into world politics, and restored German prosperity in the Economic Miracle. He was freely and fairly elected Chancellor no less than ''four times''. Of course, in the political system of the Federal Republic of Germany, the chancellor is de-facto on top (the presidency was deliberately made weak, so as to avoid one of the pitfalls of the Weimar system), so it might not be this trope despite Adenauer literally being a good chancellor.
29th Oct '15 11:05:37 PM PadurKaril
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* Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms has a few of these: ** Chen Gong is this to Lü Bu, always trying to give him good advice and staying loyal to him even after his death. ** Wang Yun to Emperor Xian ** Zhuge Liang to Liu Bei.
20th Jul '15 5:52:36 AM MrThorfan64
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** The various Hands of the King all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger.
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** The various Hands of the King all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger. Lord Stannis, Robert's brother, tried to be this as well. Despite being only Master of Ships and [[ReassignedToAntarctica Lord of the small island of Dragonstone]] he was one of the main helpers to Jon Arryn.
2nd Jul '15 5:42:56 PM nombretomado
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* Felix Gaeta tried to be this during Gaius Baltar's "tyrannical" reign as a puppet of the Cylons on New Caprica, in ''Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined.''
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* Felix Gaeta tried to be this during Gaius Baltar's "tyrannical" reign as a puppet of the Cylons on New Caprica, in ''Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined.''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003.''
16th Jun '15 4:00:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* The various Hands of the King in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': ** The various Hands of the King in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger.
16th Jun '15 3:59:42 AM Morgenthaler
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** A case could be made for Lord Varys from ASongOfIceAndFire. He may be a conniving, sneaky MagnificentBastard who is rightly distrusted by... well, ''everyone'' in Kings Landing. And yet, on the eve of Ned Stark's execution, Varys is his only visitor, brings him water and keeps him informed of the happenings in the court. When questioned by Ned about who he serves, his response is simply "the realm." [[spoiler: Of course, after A Dance with Dragons shows him to be somewhat less pure-hearted than previously believed, this applies a little less.]]
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** A case could be made for Lord Varys from ASongOfIceAndFire. He may be a conniving, sneaky MagnificentBastard who is rightly distrusted by... well, ''everyone'' in Kings Landing. And yet, on the eve of Ned Stark's execution, Varys is his only visitor, brings him water and keeps him informed of the happenings in the court. When questioned by Ned about who he serves, his response is simply "the realm." [[spoiler: Of course, after A Dance with Dragons shows him to be somewhat less pure-hearted than previously believed, this applies a little less.]]
16th Jun '15 3:58:44 AM Morgenthaler
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16th Jun '15 3:57:59 AM Morgenthaler
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Split animated films and live-action films. Added namespaces.
[[folder: Film ]] * The Grand Vizier in ''TheGoldenVoyageOfSinbad'' has taken over the running of the city since the death of the old caliph and wears a golden mask to hide a face hideously scarred by fire. He is also, however, brave, noble and wise, and a true companion to Sinbad throughout the adventure. * General Afir in ''MomAndDadSaveTheWorld''. He is notable in that, while his evil boss (along with everyone else on the planet) is an idiot, he's reasonably competent ''and'' isn't all that interested in destroying the Earth.
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[[folder: Film ]] * The Grand Vizier in ''TheGoldenVoyageOfSinbad'' has taken over the running of the city since the death of the old caliph and wears a golden mask to hide a face hideously scarred by fire. He is also, however, brave, noble and wise, and a true companion to Sinbad throughout the adventure. * General Afir in ''MomAndDadSaveTheWorld''. He is notable in that, while his evil boss (along with everyone else on the planet) is an idiot, he's reasonably competent ''and'' isn't all that interested in destroying the Earth.[[folder:Films -- Animated]]


[[folder:Films -- Live-Action * The Grand Vizier in ''Film/TheGoldenVoyageOfSinbad'' has taken over the running of the city since the death of the old caliph and wears a golden mask to hide a face hideously scarred by fire. He is also, however, brave, noble and wise, and a true companion to Sinbad throughout the adventure. * General Afir in ''Film/MomAndDadSaveTheWorld''. He is notable in that, while his evil boss (along with everyone else on the planet) is an idiot, he's reasonably competent ''and'' isn't all that interested in destroying the Earth. [[/folder]]

* In ''TheLordOfTheRings'', the Stewards of Gondor have as their proudest boast that they never made themselves kings, and ruled the city strictly in the name of the King until an heir to the throne returned. Even Denethor, as crazy as he was, never tried to claim the throne.
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* In ''TheLordOfTheRings'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', the Stewards of Gondor have as their proudest boast that they never made themselves kings, and ruled the city strictly in the name of the King until an heir to the throne returned. Even Denethor, as crazy as he was, never tried to claim the throne.

** The Rivan Warders, always named Brand, are a deliberate homage to this in David Eddings's ''{{Belgariad}}''.
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** The Rivan Warders, always named Brand, are a deliberate homage to this in David Eddings's ''{{Belgariad}}''.''Literature/TheBelgariad''.

* The EnchantedForestChronicles: Willin the elf. He's perhaps overly fond of tradition and ceremonies--he insists on referring to the king as "Your Majesty" even in private, and his greatest pleasure is organizing elaborate formal occasions--but he's fiercely loyal and keeps the castle administration running smoothly.
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* The EnchantedForestChronicles: Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles: Willin the elf. He's perhaps overly fond of tradition and ceremonies--he insists on referring to the king as "Your Majesty" even in private, and his greatest pleasure is organizing elaborate formal occasions--but he's fiercely loyal and keeps the castle administration running smoothly.

* In Creator/RobertEHoward's King {{Kull}} stories, Kull's vizier Tu fits this trope, helping the mighty but savage warrior navigate the dangerous complexities of royal tradition and Valusia's DeadlyDecadentCourt.
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's King {{Kull}} Literature/{{Kull}} stories, Kull's vizier Tu fits this trope, helping the mighty but savage warrior navigate the dangerous complexities of royal tradition and Valusia's DeadlyDecadentCourt.

* The various Hands of the King in ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger.
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* The various Hands of the King in ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger.

* Just about every First Counselor or person of equivalent rank is this in the ''{{Safehold}}'' series. Largely because the rulers of Safehold's kingdoms are typically smart enough to get good people into the position and both ruler and chancellor are concerned for their kingdom's well being.
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* Just about every First Counselor or person of equivalent rank is this in the ''{{Safehold}}'' ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' series. Largely because the rulers of Safehold's kingdoms are typically smart enough to get good people into the position and both ruler and chancellor are concerned for their kingdom's well being.

* Magistrate Lasselle in ''StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime''. He's generally a jerk, but only has the kingdom's best interests in mind.
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* Magistrate Lasselle in ''StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime''.''VideoGame/StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime''. He's generally a jerk, but only has the kingdom's best interests in mind.
11th Jun '15 4:43:44 PM FordPrefect
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* [[TheChancellorsOfGermany Konrad Adenauer]], the BadassGrandpa chancellor of the [[WestGermany Federal Republic of Germany]] from 1949 to 1963. He led Germany through the postwar reconstruction, beat down both Fascist and Communist threats, brought Germany into world politics, and restored German prosperity in the Economic Miracle. He was freely and fairly elected Chancellor no less than ''four times''. Of course, in the political system of the Federal Republic of Germany, the chancellor is de-facto on top(the presidency was deliberately made weak, so as to avoid one of the pitfalls of the Weimar system), so it might not be this trope despite Adenauer literally being a good chancellor.
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* [[TheChancellorsOfGermany Konrad Adenauer]], the BadassGrandpa chancellor of the [[WestGermany Federal Republic of Germany]] from 1949 to 1963. He led Germany through the postwar reconstruction, beat down both Fascist and Communist threats, brought Germany into world politics, and restored German prosperity in the Economic Miracle. He was freely and fairly elected Chancellor no less than ''four times''. Of course, in the political system of the Federal Republic of Germany, the chancellor is de-facto on top(the top (the presidency was deliberately made weak, so as to avoid one of the pitfalls of the Weimar system), so it might not be this trope despite Adenauer literally being a good chancellor.
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