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24th May '17 1:03:18 PM JoeMerl
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* In ''Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar,'' Aladdin is promoted to Vizier in Jafar's place. Though you could easily miss this point, since he spends the rest of the movie, [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series]] and [[Disney/AladdinAndTheKingOfThieves the sequel]] just battling villains and monsters instead of governmental work.
16th May '17 4:19:59 PM nombretomado
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* The kirin of TheTwelveKingdoms are ostensibly this. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] though due to their StupidGood natures. Good rulers learn when to heed their kirin and when to disregard their advice because compassion alone cannot administer a nation.

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* The kirin of TheTwelveKingdoms ''LightNovel/TheTwelveKingdoms'' are ostensibly this. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] though due to their StupidGood natures. Good rulers learn when to heed their kirin and when to disregard their advice because compassion alone cannot administer a nation.
21st Apr '17 10:09:25 AM gb00393
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** Davos serves as this to Stannis Baratheon, which helps counterbalance the influence Melisandre has on him.

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** Davos serves as this as NumberTwo to Stannis Baratheon, Baratheon at Dragonstone, which helps counterbalance the influence Melisandre has on him.him. Stannis plans to make him Hand of the King and Davos takes the position very seriously.
--> '''Davos:''' I understand (being sentenced to death), but since you have not ''unnamed me'' Hand of the King, it is ''my duty'' to advise you against it.
20th Apr '17 5:36:24 AM Bissek
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* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'': Vanamonde von Mekkhan has, after taking up the mantle of seneschal to House Heterodyne from his grandfather, proven himself to be a capable administrator, organiser, spymaster and tactician, and completely devoted to the welfare of the House Heterodyne and the people of Mechanicsburg. His grandfather Carson served both Seamus Heterodyne and Seamus' sons Bill and Barry with similar skill and loyalty, but given the elder Heterodyne's character (not to mention Carson's youthful days as a volunteer in said elder Heterodyne's marauding horde) it's a bit unclear where on the Good-Evil axis he falls.

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* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'': Vanamonde von Mekkhan has, after taking up the mantle of seneschal to House Heterodyne from his grandfather, proven himself to be a capable administrator, organiser, spymaster and tactician, and completely devoted to the welfare of the House Heterodyne and the people of Mechanicsburg. His grandfather Carson served both Seamus Saturnus Heterodyne and Seamus' Saturnus' sons Bill and Barry with similar skill and loyalty, but given the elder Heterodyne's character (not to mention Carson's youthful days as a volunteer in said elder Heterodyne's marauding horde) it's a bit unclear where on the Good-Evil axis he falls.
20th Apr '17 5:32:51 AM Bissek
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* In the Literature/VorkosiganSaga, Lord Admiral Aral Vorkosigan was appointed Regent for five year old Emperor Gregor, serving loyally for fifteen years when most of his enemies thought he would make a grab for the throne. Upon Gregor's ascension to the throne, he stepped down and continued in the role as the Emperor's Prime Minister.

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* In the Literature/VorkosiganSaga, Lord Admiral Aral Vorkosigan was appointed Regent for five year old Emperor Gregor, serving loyally for fifteen years when most of his enemies thought he would make a grab for the throne. Upon Gregor's ascension to the throne, he stepped down and continued in the role as the Emperor's Prime Minister. The page quote is Gregor's explanation for why [[spoiler:he insisted on being one of the pallbearers at Aral's funeral.]]



* In the [[Literature/HorusHeresy past]] of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', Malcador the Sigillite. The Emperor's right-hand man and regent when away from Terra, he is the greatest politician, administrator, and (non-PhysicalGod) human psyker of all time, as the Emperor is the [[PsychicPowers greatest]] [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking everything]] [[EmperorScientist else]].

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* In the [[Literature/HorusHeresy past]] of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', Malcador the Sigillite. The Emperor's right-hand man and regent when away from Terra, he is the greatest politician, administrator, and (non-PhysicalGod) human psyker of all time, as the Emperor is the [[PsychicPowers greatest]] [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking everything]] [[EmperorScientist else]].else]][[note]]Except for [[BigEater eater]] and [[NeverGetsDrunk drinker]], where the title of greatest goes to the Emperor's son Leman Russ[[/note]].
9th Apr '17 1:24:34 AM Euodiachloris
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
** The various Hands of the King all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger. Lord Stannis, Robert's brother, tried to be this as well. Despite being only Master of Ships and [[ReassignedToAntarctica Lord of the small island of Dragonstone]] he was one of the main helpers to Jon Arryn.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': This series likes to remind us that [[GoodIsNotNice Good doesn't necessarily mean Nice]]. Or that being good for the realm means being on Team Good, either.
** The various notable Hands of the King all seem to be this.this (there have been notable exceptions, historically). Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd been sacked. Please note: sacking the guy who has been keeping everything afloat for decades is, arguably, a decent sign that you've jumped off too many slopes to be trusted (or safe) anywhere near absolute power. Before that he was Aerys's best friend, leading Westeros through twenty years of peace and prosperity before Aerys got jealous and sacked him in anger. Lord Stannis, Robert's brother, tried to be this as well. Despite being only Master of Ships and [[ReassignedToAntarctica Lord of the small island of Dragonstone]] he was one of the main helpers to Jon Arryn.
23rd Mar '17 3:23:12 PM gb00393
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** Ned Stark struggles constantly to get King Robert to do good, sensible, moral things and to mitigate the damage whenever his advice is ignored. He also tries to reduce the realm's debt and orders the execution of a band of psychopathic marauders led by Gregor Clegane.

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** Ned Stark struggles constantly to get King Robert to do good, sensible, moral things and to mitigate the damage whenever his advice is ignored. He also tries to reduce the realm's debt and orders actually attempts to give justice to the commoners by ordering the execution of a band of psychopathic marauders led by Gregor Clegane.Clegane, who are in service to the richest, most powerful House in the kingdoms.
20th Jan '17 1:02:39 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Ned Stark struggles constantly to get King Robert to do good, sensible, moral things and to mitigate the damage whenever his advice is ignored. He also tries to reduce the realm's debt and orders the execution of a band of psychopathic marauders led by Gregor Clegane.
** Jon Arryn is generally agreed to have given the kingdom 17 good years, but even he struggled to rein in Robert's spending.
** Tyrion serves as a much needed one to Joffrey during his brief but brilliant stint as acting Hand in Season 2. In no small part, the Lannister banner is sustained by his skill at administration and his ability to stare down Joffrey's cruelty, subvert Cersei's incompetence, and prepare the city for the inevitable siege. Varys even commends him as better than Ned Stark or Jon Arryn because he enjoys rather than disdains the game of thrones.
** Tywin Lannister served as Hand to ''the Mad King'' for twenty stable and prosperous years, which ended almost immediately upon his dismissal. He takes up the position again in Season 3 and stabilizes the Lannister regime by cowing his sadistic grandson and his quarrelsome children.
** Davos serves as this to Stannis Baratheon, which helps counterbalance the influence Melisandre has on him.
23rd Dec '16 9:40:31 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore might, or might not, be an example. He was canonized as a saint by the Catholic Church for his refusal to ratify his king's breach with Catholicism, but he is regarded by some non-Catholics as a monster for his persecution of heretics when his king was still a Catholic.
* A case can be made for Henry VIII's Secretary Thomas Cromwell and More's predecessor as Chancellor, Cardinal Wolsey - both were hated by pretty much everyone but they ran things pretty well for Henry. There's a reason Henry later regretted having Cromwell executed.

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* Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore might, or might not, be an example. He was canonized as a saint by the Catholic Church for his refusal to ratify his king's breach with Catholicism, but he is regarded by some non-Catholics as a monster for his persecution of heretics when his king was still a Catholic.
* A case can be made for Henry VIII's Secretary Thomas Cromwell and More's predecessor as Chancellor, Cardinal Wolsey - -- both were hated by pretty much everyone but they ran things pretty well for Henry. There's a reason Henry later regretted having Cromwell executed.
10th Dec '16 11:03:25 AM nombretomado
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** Prospero to ConanTheBarbarian as well.

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** Prospero to ConanTheBarbarian Literature/ConanTheBarbarian as well.
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