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20th Jan '17 1:02:39 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Ned Stark struggles constantly to get King Robert to do good, sensible, moral things and to mitigate the damage whenever his advice is ignored. He also tries to reduce the realm's debt and orders the execution of a band of psychopathic marauders led by Gregor Clegane.
** Jon Arryn is generally agreed to have given the kingdom 17 good years, but even he struggled to rein in Robert's spending.
** Tyrion serves as a much needed one to Joffrey during his brief but brilliant stint as acting Hand in Season 2. In no small part, the Lannister banner is sustained by his skill at administration and his ability to stare down Joffrey's cruelty, subvert Cersei's incompetence, and prepare the city for the inevitable siege. Varys even commends him as better than Ned Stark or Jon Arryn because he enjoys rather than disdains the game of thrones.
** Tywin Lannister served as Hand to ''the Mad King'' for twenty stable and prosperous years, which ended almost immediately upon his dismissal. He takes up the position again in Season 3 and stabilizes the Lannister regime by cowing his sadistic grandson and his quarrelsome children.
** Davos serves as this to Stannis Baratheon, which helps counterbalance the influence Melisandre has on him.
23rd Dec '16 9:40:31 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore might, or might not, be an example. He was canonized as a saint by the Catholic Church for his refusal to ratify his king's breach with Catholicism, but he is regarded by some non-Catholics as a monster for his persecution of heretics when his king was still a Catholic.
* A case can be made for Henry VIII's Secretary Thomas Cromwell and More's predecessor as Chancellor, Cardinal Wolsey - both were hated by pretty much everyone but they ran things pretty well for Henry. There's a reason Henry later regretted having Cromwell executed.

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* Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore might, or might not, be an example. He was canonized as a saint by the Catholic Church for his refusal to ratify his king's breach with Catholicism, but he is regarded by some non-Catholics as a monster for his persecution of heretics when his king was still a Catholic.
* A case can be made for Henry VIII's Secretary Thomas Cromwell and More's predecessor as Chancellor, Cardinal Wolsey - -- both were hated by pretty much everyone but they ran things pretty well for Henry. There's a reason Henry later regretted having Cromwell executed.
10th Dec '16 11:03:25 AM nombretomado
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** Prospero to ConanTheBarbarian as well.

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** Prospero to ConanTheBarbarian Literature/ConanTheBarbarian as well.
2nd Dec '16 9:35:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* Despite not having any official position (and that's purely because Arthur is extremely WrongGenreSavvy), {{Series/Merlin}} qualifies for this trope quite well. He's one of the wisest characters in the cast, gives consistently good advice,and helps the oppressed magical people. It's extremely telling that when [[SpoiledSweet Princess Mithian]] wanted to marry Arthur, she went to Merlin to ask for his support, noting that Arthur valued his opinion above all others. This was after being in Camelot for a total of one day.

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* ''Series/Merlin2008'': Despite not having any official position (and that's purely because Arthur is extremely WrongGenreSavvy), {{Series/Merlin}} Merlin qualifies for this trope quite well. He's one of the wisest characters in the cast, gives consistently good advice,and helps the oppressed magical people. It's extremely telling that when [[SpoiledSweet Princess Mithian]] wanted to marry Arthur, she went to Merlin to ask for his support, noting that Arthur valued his opinion above all others. This was after being in Camelot for a total of one day.
30th Nov '16 8:14:34 AM Mhazard
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* Joseph, from the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'' in Literature/TheBible. He serves under the Pharaoh as a Vizier. And unlike the [[NephariousPharaoh two infamous Pharaohs]] from ''BookOfExodus'', the one in Genesis is a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who genuinely appreciates Joseph's talents and his deeds.

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* Joseph, from the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'' in Literature/TheBible. He serves under the Pharaoh as a Vizier. And Vizier, and unlike the [[NephariousPharaoh two infamous Pharaohs]] from ''BookOfExodus'', the one Pharaoh in Genesis is a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who genuinely appreciates Joseph's talents and his deeds.
30th Nov '16 8:13:29 AM Mhazard
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* Joseph, from the book of Genesis in Literature/TheBible.

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* Joseph, from the book of ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'' in Literature/TheBible. He serves under the Pharaoh as a Vizier. And unlike the [[NephariousPharaoh two infamous Pharaohs]] from ''BookOfExodus'', the one in Genesis in Literature/TheBible.is a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who genuinely appreciates Joseph's talents and his deeds.
30th Nov '16 1:59:51 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Over a century and a half before Ned Stark became Hand, his ancestor Cregan Stark was Hand for a single day, and was such a {{Badass}} that they called his tenure "The Hour Of The Wolf"

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*** Over a century and a half before Ned Stark became Hand, his ancestor Cregan Stark was Hand for a single day, and was such a {{Badass}} badass that they called his tenure "The Hour Of The Wolf"
12th Nov '16 1:41:11 PM maxwellsilver
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* The ''WesternAnimation.RockyAndBullwinkle'' story centered on the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam features a Grand Vizier who looks the part and schemes as much as any other, but he is in fact entirely loyal to the ruler of Jaipur and actually shows genuine concern for him. He's also not noticeably more bloodthirsty than the ruler himself, and only to the same people. (He also requires {{exposition}} about the titular Ruby Yacht early on, so maybe he's just new.)

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* The ''WesternAnimation.RockyAndBullwinkle'' ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'' story centered on the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam features a Grand Vizier who looks the part and schemes as much as any other, but he is in fact entirely loyal to the ruler of Jaipur and actually shows genuine concern for him. He's also not noticeably more bloodthirsty than the ruler himself, and only to the same people. (He also requires {{exposition}} about the titular Ruby Yacht early on, so maybe he's just new.)
12th Nov '16 1:38:50 PM maxwellsilver
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* Cristo/Kiryl in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIV'' / ''Dragon Warrior IV'' is completely loyal (and has a crush on his kingdom's princess, which doesn't hurt the loyalty thing one bit.)



* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'': Vanamonde von Mekkhan has, after taking up the mantle of seneschal to House Heterodyne from his grandfather, proven himself to be a capable administrator, organiser, spymaster and tactician, and completely devoted to the welfare of the House Heterodyne and the people of Mechanicsburg. His grandfather Carson served both Seamus Heterodyne and Seamus' sons Bill and Barry with similar skill and loyalty, but given the elder [[MadScientist Heterodyne's]] [[EvilOverlord character]] (not to mention Carson's youthful days as a volunteer in said elder Heterodyne's marauding horde) it's a bit unclear where on the Good-Evil axis he falls.

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* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'': Vanamonde von Mekkhan has, after taking up the mantle of seneschal to House Heterodyne from his grandfather, proven himself to be a capable administrator, organiser, spymaster and tactician, and completely devoted to the welfare of the House Heterodyne and the people of Mechanicsburg. His grandfather Carson served both Seamus Heterodyne and Seamus' sons Bill and Barry with similar skill and loyalty, but given the elder [[MadScientist Heterodyne's]] [[EvilOverlord character]] Heterodyne's character (not to mention Carson's youthful days as a volunteer in said elder Heterodyne's marauding horde) it's a bit unclear where on the Good-Evil axis he falls. falls.
* In ''WebComic/RiceBoy'', the Grand Vizier of Satuar is far more intelligent, level-headed, and kinder to Rice Boy than the Prince is.


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* In ''WesternAnimation/WarPlanets'' (AKA ''Shadow Raiders''), the Grand Vizier of Planet Fire is a narrow-minded, obstructionist xenophobe. However, he is utterly devoted to his prince and the people of Fire. He even goes so far as to make a Heroic Sacrifice. He does make a reappearance afterwards where he tries to get them eaten by the Beast Planet, but like ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', it's an evil replica, not the real Vizier.
* The ''WesternAnimation.RockyAndBullwinkle'' story centered on the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam features a Grand Vizier who looks the part and schemes as much as any other, but he is in fact entirely loyal to the ruler of Jaipur and actually shows genuine concern for him. He's also not noticeably more bloodthirsty than the ruler himself, and only to the same people. (He also requires {{exposition}} about the titular Ruby Yacht early on, so maybe he's just new.)
* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode "Hearth's Warming Eve", Twilight Sparkle and co. take part in a play about the founding of Equestria. Applejack's character is Smart Cookie, an advisor to Chancellor Puddinghead (played by Pinkie Pie) and much nicer (and more intelligent) than she is.
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12th Nov '16 1:33:36 PM maxwellsilver
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* In Creator/LFrankBaum's [[Literature/LandOfOz Oz books]], the Scarecrow takes up this position for Ozma.

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* In Creator/LFrankBaum's [[Literature/LandOfOz Oz books]], ''Literature/LandOfOz'' series, the Scarecrow takes up this position for Ozma.



* ''Literature/TheGiver'''s role in the Community is to advise them well based on the memories he's received.

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* ''Literature/TheGiver'''s ''Literature/TheGiver'': The titular Giver's role in the Community is to advise them well based on the memories he's received.received.
* Both Joseph and Daniel in Literature/TheBible, as well as Mordaci who replaces Haman after his downfall.
* Grimble in ''Literature/MythAdventures'', while engaging in power struggles with General Badaxe, has no desire to rule.
* In Mika Waltari's ''The Wanderer'', Suleiman the Magnificent's vizier Ibrahim seems like this, but is shown to be the sultan's only friend and politically capable. He is somewhat ruthless, but apart from the main character, so is everyone else in the book.
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