History Main / TheChrisCarterEffect

28th May '16 9:45:31 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Strictly speaking, ''ThePretender'' never resolved any of its over-arching plots. The show creators joked that a detailed master plan for the narrative was hidden "inside the pickle jar" and buried in their backyard, but in actuality the writing sessions were becoming increasingly devoted to impromptu games of poker among the staff. This may explain why, though the exact circumstances and reason for series protagonist Jarod's abduction as a child remained unclear, nearly every character in the show was revealed to have [[LukeIMightBeYourFather uncertain parentage]] or [[LongLostSibling a long-lost relative]]. Following the [[CutShort unintentional finale]], two successive {{Made For TV Movie}}s, both of which ended with {{Cliff Hanger}}s, introduced more questions than answers.

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* Strictly speaking, ''ThePretender'' ''Series/ThePretender'' never resolved any of its over-arching plots. The show creators joked that a detailed master plan for the narrative was hidden "inside the pickle jar" and buried in their backyard, but in actuality the writing sessions were becoming increasingly devoted to impromptu games of poker among the staff. This may explain why, though the exact circumstances and reason for series protagonist Jarod's abduction as a child remained unclear, nearly every character in the show was revealed to have [[LukeIMightBeYourFather uncertain parentage]] or [[LongLostSibling a long-lost relative]]. Following the [[CutShort unintentional finale]], two successive {{Made For TV Movie}}s, both of which ended with {{Cliff Hanger}}s, introduced more questions than answers.
24th May '16 7:03:14 PM Kid
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* In general, the works of Creator/JJAbrams often have this problem. Website/{{Cracked}} put it best: "A creative visionary and genius... for approximately two seasons, after which point he cracks, panics and starts [[AWizardDidIt rambling on about magic]] instead of writing a coherent plotline." To a certain degree, even ''{{Felicity}}'' fell prey to this, as did ''Series/{{Alias}}''. Luckily it seems that ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' is averting this trope hard with the "Parallel Universe"-arc that's been the series' main plot thread since the end of season 1 being given a very emotional bitttersweet ending towards the end of Season 4, which also answered the mystery of the Observers, [[spoiler: they're the human race from the future]]. Season 5 introduced a new storyline [[spoiler: in the form of the Observer occupation of present day Earth]] which is moving at a pretty fast pace, answering questions as it drops more (but less than it answered). It's been doing fine so far and it might help that a fair number of the episodes are already borderline ramblings about magic.

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* In general, the works of Creator/JJAbrams often have this problem. Website/{{Cracked}} put it best: "A creative visionary and genius... for approximately two seasons, after which point he cracks, panics and starts [[AWizardDidIt rambling on about magic]] instead of writing a coherent plotline." To a certain degree, even ''{{Felicity}}'' fell prey to this, as did ''Series/{{Alias}}''. Luckily it seems that ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' is averting this trope hard with the "Parallel Universe"-arc that's been the series' main plot thread since the end of season 1 being given a very emotional bitttersweet bittersweet ending towards the end of Season 4, which also answered the mystery of the Observers, [[spoiler: they're the human race from the future]]. Season 5 introduced a new storyline [[spoiler: in the form of the Observer occupation of present day Earth]] which is moving at a pretty fast pace, answering questions as it drops more (but less than it answered). It's been doing fine so far and it might help that a fair number of the episodes are already borderline ramblings about magic.
24th May '16 6:50:33 PM Kid
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** When the series was given an [[UnCancelled unexpected revival]] in 2016, it didn't take this trope long to hit it again. The first episode begins with a massive RetCon that makes hash of a lot of the previous mythology, [[spoiler: aliens not having much interaction with humanity at all, and most of their supposed crimes being the work of humans using stolen alien technology -despite the numerous aliens who've been on the show before]]. Most of the season was filler, and the season finale ends on a CliffHanger, despite another season not being greenlit at that point and the principle actors not signed on for more. Fans who were hoping to finally get some closure after years of waiting were left sorely disappointed; at best, they might finally get a resolution in another few years, at worst, the show gets cancelled again and they're right back to where they started.

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** When the series was given an [[UnCancelled unexpected revival]] in 2016, it didn't take this trope long to hit it again. The first episode begins with a massive RetCon that makes hash of a lot of the previous mythology, [[spoiler: aliens not having much interaction with humanity at all, and most of their supposed crimes being the work of humans using stolen alien technology -despite technology--despite the numerous aliens who've been on the show before]]. Most of the season was filler, and the season finale ends on a CliffHanger, despite another season not being greenlit at that point and the principle actors not signed on for more. Fans who were hoping to finally get some closure after years of waiting were left sorely disappointed; at best, they might finally get a resolution in another few years, at worst, the show gets cancelled again and they're right back to where they started.
24th May '16 6:36:52 PM Kid
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* Creator/BrianKVaughan's creator-owned long runners ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' and ''ComicBook/ExMachina'' both suffered these, especially Y, which had a lot of the questions brought up during the run unanswered. Vaughan later admitted he believes that since this is how real life works (Not all questions are answered) that he chooses to write this way. He also doesn't believe in [[DownerEnding happy endings.]]

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* Creator/BrianKVaughan's creator-owned long runners ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' and ''ComicBook/ExMachina'' both suffered these, especially Y, which had a lot of the questions brought up during the run unanswered. Vaughan later admitted he believes that since this is how real life works (Not (not all questions are answered) that he chooses to write this way. He also doesn't believe in [[DownerEnding happy endings.]]
10th May '16 1:03:06 AM Smash641
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** This has almost become an enforced trope in regards to Ash and his Pokemon. After Hoenn he almost never even mentions any Pokemon from prior regions besides Pikachu, meaning if any of those Pokemon or even most trainers from those regions had outstanding plots, they will never be resolved. Also, Ash will never win any Pokemon League, thus making an endgame for the series genuinely impossible. His best achievement in that area was the Battle Frontier which was, again, in Hoenn, and the Orange Islands, which was filler.

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** This has almost become an enforced trope in regards to Ash and his Pokemon. After Hoenn he almost never even mentions any Pokemon from prior regions besides Pikachu, meaning if any of those Pokemon or even most trainers from those regions had outstanding plots, they will never be resolved. Also, Ash will never win any Pokemon League, thus making an endgame for the series genuinely impossible. His best achievement achievements in that area was were the Battle Frontier which was, again, in Hoenn, the Hoenn series, and the Orange Islands, which was filler.
10th May '16 1:01:02 AM Smash641
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** This has almost become an enforced trope in regards to Ash and his Pokemon. After Hoenn he almost never even mentions any Pokemon from prior regions besides Pikachu, meaning if any of those Pokemon or even most trainers from those regions had outstanding plots, they will never be resolved. Also, Ash will never win any Pokemon League, thus making an endgame for the series genuinely impossible. His best achievement in that area was the Battle Frontier which was, again, in Hoenn.

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** This has almost become an enforced trope in regards to Ash and his Pokemon. After Hoenn he almost never even mentions any Pokemon from prior regions besides Pikachu, meaning if any of those Pokemon or even most trainers from those regions had outstanding plots, they will never be resolved. Also, Ash will never win any Pokemon League, thus making an endgame for the series genuinely impossible. His best achievement in that area was the Battle Frontier which was, again, in Hoenn. Hoenn, and the Orange Islands, which was filler.
22nd Apr '16 9:30:12 PM Kid
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* ''Series/TheMentalist''. The Red John MythArc has become far more elaborate and convoluted than originally intended. While it appears that Bruno Heller always knew who Red John was going to be (or picked his possible choices early on, at least), the character went from a particularly devious SerialKiller who knew how to cover his tracks, to a SerialKiller who knew a few other killers, to a SerialKiller with a shadow army of fanatically devoted, loyal-unto-death brainwashed followers. In season 6 they took his catchphrase ("Tiger, Tiger") and decided to turn what looked like a cult into a sophisticated criminal organization that nobody had heard of, and made Red John a possible member, to a possible ''senior'' member, and finally into the apparent mastermind of the whole thing. Oh, and he's repeatedly performing "psychic" feats that make Jane look like an amateur, that are never explained. Beyond a certain point he's basically a supervillain and you have to start wondering why he ever resorted to anything as trivial as serial murder in the first place. TheReveal that he is [[spoiler: Sherriff [=McCallister=]]] only raised further issues, as many clues that were dropped about Red John turn out to be irrelevant (his height, for instance- the actor in question is taller than Red John was stated to be). Practically all of the clues that pointed to him were only dropped in the sixth season, the one he was revealed in; most ones from previous seasons were never mentioned again.

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* ''Series/TheMentalist''. The Red John MythArc has become far more elaborate and convoluted than originally intended. While it appears that Bruno Heller always knew who Red John was going to be (or picked his possible choices early on, at least), the character went from a particularly devious SerialKiller who knew how to cover his tracks, to a SerialKiller who knew a few other killers, to a SerialKiller with a shadow army of fanatically devoted, loyal-unto-death brainwashed followers. In season 6 they took his catchphrase ("Tiger, Tiger") and decided to turn what looked like a cult into a sophisticated criminal organization that nobody had heard of, and made Red John a possible member, to a possible ''senior'' member, and finally into the apparent mastermind of the whole thing. Oh, and he's repeatedly performing "psychic" feats that make Jane look like an amateur, that are never explained. Beyond a certain point he's basically a supervillain and you have to start wondering why he ever resorted to anything as trivial as serial murder in the first place. TheReveal that he is [[spoiler: Sherriff [=McCallister=]]] only raised further issues, as many clues that were dropped about Red John turn out to be irrelevant (his height, for instance- the instance--the actor in question is taller than Red John was stated to be). Practically all of the clues that pointed to him were only dropped in the sixth season, the one he was revealed in; most ones from previous seasons were never mentioned again.
22nd Apr '16 9:26:29 PM Kid
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** Even after the show's cancellation, the identity of "Future Guy" remained muddled. Rick Berman claimed that they had never established his identity, while Manny Coto and Brannon Braga said he was probably a Romulan, only for Braga to later go back on that claim he had always intended him to be Archer. Meanwhile, the EU novels took his character in a different direction than any of those stated possibilities, making him Jamran Harnoth, the leader of a eugenics movement who was also using time travel to ensure his own existence (being on Suliban, Tadaran, ''and'' Romulan descent).

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** Even after the show's cancellation, the identity of "Future Guy" remained muddled. Rick Berman claimed that they had never established his identity, while Manny Coto and Brannon Braga said he was probably a Romulan, only for Braga to later go back on that claim he had always intended him to be Archer. Meanwhile, the EU novels took his character in a different direction than any of those stated possibilities, making him Jamran Harnoth, the leader of a eugenics movement who was also using time travel to ensure his own existence (being on of Suliban, Tadaran, ''and'' Romulan descent).
16th Mar '16 3:17:03 PM FF32
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* Brian K Vaughan's creator-owned long runners Y: The Last Man and Ex Machina both suffered these, especially Y, which had a lot of the questions brought up during the run unanswered. Vaughan later admitted he believes that since this is how real life works (Not all questions are answered) that he chooses to write this way. He also doesn't believe in [[DownerEnding happy endings.]]

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* Brian K Vaughan's Creator/BrianKVaughan's creator-owned long runners Y: The Last Man ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' and Ex Machina ''ComicBook/ExMachina'' both suffered these, especially Y, which had a lot of the questions brought up during the run unanswered. Vaughan later admitted he believes that since this is how real life works (Not all questions are answered) that he chooses to write this way. He also doesn't believe in [[DownerEnding happy endings.]]
5th Mar '16 11:46:45 AM SorPepita
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** The series did a sequel via a the "Shattered Visage" graphic novel that did at least attempt to bring closure to Number Six. It's apparently more or less official, as the famously cranky Patrick McGoohan "didn't hate" the plot.

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** The series did a sequel via a the "Shattered Visage" graphic novel that did at least attempt to bring closure to Number Six. It's apparently more or less official, as the famously cranky Patrick McGoohan [=McGoohan=] "didn't hate" the plot.
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