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13th Jul '16 11:28:21 AM MadCormorant
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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. William Story promised his nephew, William Story II, $5000 (nearly $125,000 in 2012 dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. The younger Story did this. The uncle declared that he'd be more comfortable holding onto the money for the nephew until some time after the nephew turned 21, and that the money would accrue interest between when the nephew turned 21 and when it was transferred. The uncle died without making any payment; in the meantime, the younger Sidway had transferred his rights to the money to his wife, who transferred it to Louisa Hamer. The elder Story's estate refused to pay, so Hamer sued the executor of the estate, Franklin Sidway. The New York Court of Appeals unanimously sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.

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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. William Story promised his nephew, William Story II, $5000 (nearly $125,000 in 2012 dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. The younger Story did this. The uncle declared that he'd be more comfortable holding onto the money for the nephew until some time after the nephew turned 21, and that the money would accrue interest between when the nephew turned 21 and when it was transferred. The uncle died without making any payment; in the meantime, the younger Sidway had Story transferred his rights to the money to his wife, who transferred it to Louisa Hamer. The elder Story's estate refused to pay, so Hamer sued the executor of the estate, Franklin Sidway. The New York Court of Appeals unanimously sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.
13th Jul '16 11:27:27 AM MadCormorant
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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. William Story promised his nephew, William Story II, $5000 (nearly $125,000 in 2012 dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. The younger Story did this. The uncle declared that he'd be more comfortable holding onto the money for the nephew until some time after the nephew turned 21, and that the money would accrue interest between when the nephew turned 21 and when it was transferred. The uncle died without making any payment; in the meantime, the younger Sidway had transferred his rights to the money to his wife, who transferred it to Louisa Hamer. The elder Story's estate refused to pay, so Hamer sued the executor of the estate, Franklin Sidway. The court sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.

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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. William Story promised his nephew, William Story II, $5000 (nearly $125,000 in 2012 dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. The younger Story did this. The uncle declared that he'd be more comfortable holding onto the money for the nephew until some time after the nephew turned 21, and that the money would accrue interest between when the nephew turned 21 and when it was transferred. The uncle died without making any payment; in the meantime, the younger Sidway had transferred his rights to the money to his wife, who transferred it to Louisa Hamer. The elder Story's estate refused to pay, so Hamer sued the executor of the estate, Franklin Sidway. The court New York Court of Appeals unanimously sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.
13th Jul '16 11:25:03 AM MadCormorant
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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. Hamer's uncle promised him $5000 (nearly $125,000 in current dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. Hamer did this, but the uncle died in the interim and his estate refused to pay. The court sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.

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** A similar arrangement led to the famous case ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamer_v._Sidway Hamer v. Sidway]]''. Hamer's uncle William Story promised him his nephew, William Story II, $5000 (nearly $125,000 in current 2012 dollars) if he refused to smoke, drink, swear, or play billiards until he was 21. Hamer The younger Story did this, but this. The uncle declared that he'd be more comfortable holding onto the money for the nephew until some time after the nephew turned 21, and that the money would accrue interest between when the nephew turned 21 and when it was transferred. The uncle died without making any payment; in the interim and meantime, the younger Sidway had transferred his rights to the money to his wife, who transferred it to Louisa Hamer. The elder Story's estate refused to pay.pay, so Hamer sued the executor of the estate, Franklin Sidway. The court sided with Hamer, and First Year Law Students for the last hundred years have learned about it.
26th Jun '16 10:44:29 AM nombretomado
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* In ''BaldursGate 2'', the player is offered a quest with a 10,000 gp reward--big money [[MoneyForNothing at that point in the game]]--by [[spoiler:Jierdan Firkraag]]. Once you reach the quest area, however, you're manipulated into [[spoiler:killing several knights, and you find out that Firkraag is not only a dragon in disguise, but trying to destroy your reputation as payback for some half-explained slight]].

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* In ''BaldursGate 2'', the ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'':
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player is offered a quest with a 10,000 gp reward--big money [[MoneyForNothing at that point in the game]]--by [[spoiler:Jierdan Firkraag]]. Once you reach the quest area, however, you're manipulated into [[spoiler:killing several knights, and you find out that Firkraag is not only a dragon in disguise, but trying to destroy your reputation as payback for some half-explained slight]].
10th Apr '16 9:00:48 PM 10-13-2
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** As one of [[AntiVillain the more sympathetic villains]] in Batman's RoguesGallery, Catwoman tends to have this happen to her from time to time. In ''Hush'', the trope is [[SubvertedTrope double-subverted]] when [[GirlOnGirlIsHot Poison Ivy puts her under a love spell]] in order to make her a slave for one of her schemes. Catwoman does get her...uh, "cake" - but in this case it is something she did not desire, never asked for, and is very angry about receiving once she breaks free of the mind-control.
10th Apr '16 8:48:01 PM 10-13-2
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When the other character isn't necessarily evil, doesn't plan on hurting the hero, and simply raises his or her standards whenever the other character comes near to completion, this becomes MovingTheGoalposts. Compare DealWithTheDevil, RewardedAsATraitorDeserves, YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo, ReleasedToElsewhere. Contrast VillainsNeverLie.

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When the other character isn't necessarily evil, doesn't plan on hurting the hero, and simply raises his or her standards whenever the other character comes near to completion, this becomes MovingTheGoalposts. Compare DealWithTheDevil, RewardedAsATraitorDeserves, YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo, ReleasedToElsewhere. Contrast VillainsNeverLie.
VillainsNeverLie. May double as SchmuckBait if the lackey never had a logical reason to expect cake in the first place.
13th Mar '16 8:38:01 PM dsneybuf
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** Averted in the Portal level of ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions''. Not only does the cake exist, but it's an important part of the foundation of the entire multiverse. The free-roaming Portal Adventure World has a minigame in which a minifigure adept at technology[[labelnote:examples]]The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'', Doc Brown from ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'', Benny from ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie''[[/labelnote]] can help the Cake Core bake a new cake...from ''inedible'' ingredients.

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** Averted in the Portal level of ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions''. Not only does the cake exist, but it's an important part of the foundation of the entire multiverse. The free-roaming Portal Adventure World has a minigame in which a minifigure adept at technology[[labelnote:examples]]The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'', Doc Brown from ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'', Benny from ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie''[[/labelnote]] can help the Cake Core bake a new cake...from ''inedible'' ingredients.though the use of "[[spoiler:fish-shaped solid waste]]" as an ingredient makes one wonder if it actually seems edible.
13th Mar '16 11:02:26 AM dsneybuf
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** [[AvertedTrop Averted]] in the Portal level of ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions''. Not only does the cake exist, but it's an important part of the foundation of the entire multiverse.

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** [[AvertedTrop Averted]] Averted in the Portal level of ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions''. Not only does the cake exist, but it's an important part of the foundation of the entire multiverse. The free-roaming Portal Adventure World has a minigame in which a minifigure adept at technology[[labelnote:examples]]The Doctor from ''Series/DoctorWho'', Doc Brown from ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'', Benny from ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie''[[/labelnote]] can help the Cake Core bake a new cake...from ''inedible'' ingredients.
3rd Feb '16 11:02:50 PM laserviking42
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** In a similar case in 1990's, Pepsi had run TV ads advertising their latest promotion in which customers could "Pepsi points" from bottle caps and redeem them for various merchandise. The TV ads ended with a kid landing a AV-8 Harrier II jump jet in a school parking lot claiming you needed 7,000,000 points (most merchandise was in the 15-500 range). One person seeing the ad, managed to collect the required amount (in actuality he collected the minimum number of points and sent a certified check for the rest at $.10 a point, which the contest rules allowed) and attempted to claim the fighter jet. Despite this obviously being a joke, the contestant [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc. sued]] to enforce the offer. The judge ruled the advertisement was obviously a joke, noting, among other things, that the Department of Defense would never allow it to begin with. He attempted an appeal, which was immediately dismissed.

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** In a similar case in 1990's, Pepsi had run TV ads advertising their latest promotion in which customers could "Pepsi points" from bottle caps and redeem them for various merchandise. The TV ads ended with a kid landing a AV-8 Harrier II jump jet in a school parking lot claiming you needed 7,000,000 points (most merchandise was in the 15-500 range). One person seeing the ad, managed to collect the required amount (in actuality he collected the minimum number of points and sent a certified check for the rest at $.10 a point, which the contest rules allowed) and attempted to claim the fighter jet. Despite this obviously being a joke, the contestant [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc. _Pepsico,_Inc sued]] to enforce the offer. The judge ruled the advertisement was obviously a joke, noting, among other things, that the Department of Defense would never allow it to begin with. He attempted an appeal, which was immediately dismissed.
3rd Feb '16 11:01:32 PM laserviking42
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** In a similar case in 1990's, Pepsi had run TV ads advertising their latest promotion in which customers could "Pepsi points" from bottle caps and redeem them for various merchandise. The TV ads ended with a kid landing a AV-8 Harrier II jump jet in a school parking lot claiming you needed 7,000,000 points (most merchandise was in the 15-500 range). One person seeing the ad, managed to collect the required amount (in actuality he collected the minimum number of points and sent a certified check for the rest at $.10 a point, which the contest rules allowed) and attempted to claim the fighter jet. Despite this obviously being a joke, the contestant [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc. sued]] to enforce the offer. The judge ruled the advertisement was obviously a joke, noting, among other things, that the Department of Defense would never allow it to begin with. He attempted an appeal, which was immediately dismissed.
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