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11th Mar '17 9:37:47 PM SpicyJack
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** [[PlayedWith Played With]] regarding [[BearsAreBadNews Bartholmew Kuma]]. In order to see that the [[TookALevelInBadass newly-empowered]] Straw Hats returned to their ship safely, he made a deal with the government to eradicate his soul in exchange for giving him a final mission to protect their ship, the Thousand Sunny.
11th Mar '17 4:11:34 PM TropeMaster666
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* In the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist 2003 anime version]], when Greed realizes that he's going to die anyway, he provokes Ed [[ItGetsEasier (who had never killed anyone up to this point)]] into killing him. As he's dying, he reveals the ''KryptoniteFactor'' of a homunculus so that Ed will be able to take out the other homunculi.

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* ** In the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist 2003 anime version]], when Greed realizes that he's going to die anyway, he provokes Ed [[ItGetsEasier (who had never killed anyone up to this point)]] into killing him. As he's dying, he reveals the ''KryptoniteFactor'' of a homunculus so that Ed will be able to take out the other homunculi.
11th Mar '17 3:33:02 PM Prometheus117
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** Others, such as Eldrad Ulthran and the Harlequins, tried to figure out [[LoopholeAbuse loopholes in those prophecies that won't require every remaining Eldar to die]], and they actually managed to bring him into existence and enough wakefulness to begin influencing events, [[spoiler:and create an avatar called the Yncarne]]. Jury's still out on just how good or bad a thing that is, [[spoiler:but said avatar's birth [[NotHyperbole BROKE]] Craftworld Biel-Tan]].
5th Mar '17 7:10:42 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': By allowing Oberyn to champion him, Tyrion ensures that if he loses (and is therefore condemned) it will ruin Lord Tywin's alliance with House Martell.
3rd Mar '17 8:23:07 AM wiserlynn
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* In ''Film/KillBill'', Budd's likely plan was a combination of this and a XanatosGambit. Simply put, he wanted to die. He realized by know that BeingEvilSucks and that he needed (from his point of view) to face some form of retribution. He wouldn't help his brother (Bill) for this reason, and didn't want Bill and Elle to escape either, but he had too much pride to simply surrender to Beatrix without a fight. So instead of fighting her like the other Deadly Vipers did, he ambushed her using a shotgun (loaded with rock salt) then [[BuriedAlive buried her alive]] (giving her a chance to escape, which he knew was possible), stealing her priceless Hattori Hanzo sword in the process. He then called Elle (who he knew was also on Beatrix's list) offering her the sword for a million dollars. This is subject to the viewer's point of view, but most believe that he expected Elle to kill him via double cross and for Beatrix to escape and kill Elle - and later Bill - when she did, finally getting her revenge. (Elle lived, maybe, but other than that, his plan, if that was indeed the case, worked perfectly.)

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* In ''Film/KillBill'', Budd's likely plan was a combination of this and a XanatosGambit. Simply put, he wanted to die. He realized by know now that BeingEvilSucks and that he needed (from his point of view) to face some form of retribution. He wouldn't help his brother (Bill) for this reason, and didn't want Bill and Elle to escape either, but he had too much pride to simply surrender to Beatrix without a fight. So instead of fighting her like the other Deadly Vipers did, he ambushed her using a shotgun (loaded with rock salt) then [[BuriedAlive buried her alive]] (giving her a chance to escape, which he knew was possible), stealing her priceless Hattori Hanzo sword in the process. He then called Elle (who he knew was also on Beatrix's list) offering her the sword for a million dollars. This is subject to the viewer's point of view, but most believe that he expected Elle to kill him via double cross and for Beatrix to escape and kill Elle - and later Bill - when she did, finally getting her revenge. (Elle lived, maybe, but other than that, his plan, if that was indeed the case, worked perfectly.)
11th Jan '17 5:54:19 AM flodoris
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** [[MagnificentBastard Itachi]] [[AloofBigBrother Uch]][[BigBrotherInstinct iha]] attempts this. This is practically his entire life after leaving the leaf village. His plan revolves around his younger brother [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Sasuke]] [[SelfSacrificeScheme killing him]] as retribution for his crimes. Due to his [[IncurableCoughOfDeath life threatening illness]] he is [[SecretlyDying already dying]], when the final confrontation with his brother occurs. The whole point of his actions are to redeem the Uchiha clan and to allow his brother to be seen as a hero for killing him after he massacred the Uchiha clan. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero It fails spectacularly]]. He also set up a postmortem trap to kill the BigBad and stop him from spilling his secrets. This also fails. He also set up ''another'' postmortem contingency plan to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwash Sasuke to protect Konoha]] in the event he turned evil. This also fails.

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** [[MagnificentBastard Itachi]] [[AloofBigBrother Uch]][[BigBrotherInstinct iha]] Itachi]] [[BigBrotherInstinct Uchiha]] attempts this. This is practically his entire life after leaving the leaf village. His plan revolves around his younger brother [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Sasuke]] [[SelfSacrificeScheme killing him]] as retribution for his crimes. Due to his [[IncurableCoughOfDeath life threatening illness]] he is [[SecretlyDying already dying]], when the final confrontation with his brother occurs. The whole point of his actions are to redeem the Uchiha clan and to allow his brother to be seen as a hero for killing him after he massacred the Uchiha clan. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero It fails spectacularly]]. He also set up a postmortem trap to kill the BigBad and stop him from spilling his secrets. This also fails. He also set up ''another'' postmortem contingency plan to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwash Sasuke to protect Konoha]] in the event he turned evil. This also fails.



** The real Madara Uchiha attempted to pull one off. He left Tobi in charge of carrying out his plans and intended for Nagato to revive him later. This didn't go as planned due to Nagato making a HeelFaceTurn and [[RedemptionEqualsDeath sacrificing his life to revive the villagers he killed]] and also Tobi ultimately took control of his plan and going to use it for themselves. Nonetheless, he gets revived as a zombie later on by Kabuto and subsequently hijacks the jutsu so he can't be controlled.

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** The real Madara Uchiha attempted to pull one off. He left Tobi in charge of carrying out his plans and intended for Nagato to revive him later. This didn't go as planned due to Nagato making a HeelFaceTurn and [[RedemptionEqualsDeath sacrificing his life to revive the villagers he killed]] killed and also Tobi ultimately took control of his plan and who going to use it for themselves.become the jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails himself and never had any intention of reviving him. Nonetheless, he gets revived as a zombie later on by Kabuto and subsequently hijacks the jutsu so he can't be controlled.
8th Jan '17 1:13:08 PM nombretomado
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* {{Transmetropolitan}}: Spider's ex-wife sets one up the night before she went into cryogenic suspension. Specifically, she went and pissed off a group of touch-phobic radicals, screaming her name so they'd know who to seek revenge on, the night before she froze her head. Because her actions exiled one of their own, they sought retribution. When the group finally tracked her down and found she was a frozen head, they went after next of kin, ie, Spider. They thought that Spider, as her ex-husband, would still care about her safety and kidnapped her head as collateral. Spider proceeded throw her head into the river. Blood debt repaid, the radicals thanked him, saying they were big fans.

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* {{Transmetropolitan}}: ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'': Spider's ex-wife sets one up the night before she went into cryogenic suspension. Specifically, she went and pissed off a group of touch-phobic radicals, screaming her name so they'd know who to seek revenge on, the night before she froze her head. Because her actions exiled one of their own, they sought retribution. When the group finally tracked her down and found she was a frozen head, they went after next of kin, ie, Spider. They thought that Spider, as her ex-husband, would still care about her safety and kidnapped her head as collateral. Spider proceeded throw her head into the river. Blood debt repaid, the radicals thanked him, saying they were big fans.
1st Jan '17 1:38:51 PM Generality
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* Mr. Wednesday of ''Literature/AmericanGods'' [[spoiler: allowed himself to take a sniper round to the head in order to convince the old gods to go to war with the new gods. So he and Loki could feed on the power from their deaths.]]

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* Mr. Wednesday of ''Literature/AmericanGods'' [[spoiler: allowed himself to take a sniper round to the head in order to convince the old gods to go to war with the new gods. So he and Loki could feed on the power from their deaths.]] It's implied he would have been revived had his plan succeeded.]]
* The Marquis de Carabas in ''Literature/{{Neverwhere}}'', similarly [[spoiler: makes a deal with Croupe and Vandemar that he knows they won't honor, expecting to be killed in order to learn the plan of the BigBad, with the contingency that has a mechanism to be brought back]]. The thinking is that people are a lot less likely to guard their tongues if they know you won't survive to repeat what they say.
27th Dec '16 1:06:49 PM Monolaf317
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* A common tactic in the disrespectful side of the various ''VideoGame/{{SuperSmashBros}}" commonly called a "[[FanNickname Ganoncide " or "Kirbycide".]] In a stock battle, [[{{Grapplemove}} carrying the foe over the edge with you via certain moves]] will [[RingOut lead to your death]] [[TakingYouWithMe and theirs...]] but if you [[ExploitedImmunity have a life left and they don't, you still win.]]

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* A common tactic in the disrespectful side of the various ''VideoGame/{{SuperSmashBros}}" ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' commonly called a "[[FanNickname Ganoncide " Ganoncide" or "Kirbycide".]] In a stock battle, [[{{Grapplemove}} carrying the foe over the edge with you via certain moves]] will [[RingOut lead to your death]] [[TakingYouWithMe and theirs...]] but if you [[ExploitedImmunity have a life left and they don't, you still win.]]
13th Dec '16 9:21:29 PM GhostLad
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* In V. E. Schwab's ''Vicious'', protagonist Victor needs to deal with his treacherous [[EvilFormerFriend former friend]] turned serial killer Eli Ever - not an easy proposition, because Eli is an unaging, apparently immortal [[HealingFactor regenerator]]. What Vic has on his side is a 13-year-old girl capable of [[BackFromTheDead resurrecting the dead]]. His solution is to force Eli into a bloody final showdown. When the police arrive, they find Vic's bloody mangled corpse and a live Eli claiming self-defense - which no one believes, since his wounds have all closed up. Eli is sentenced to life in prison, and the last scene of the book is of the resurrecting girl digging up Victor's grave.
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