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9th Jul '17 9:38:17 PM Doug86
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* Subverted in ''Anime/TheFiveStarStories'', where during the infamous [[GambitPileup Emperor Rescue Mission]] the extremely light forces, with which Mishalu Ha Lonn took off to Both, meant that [[WithThisHerring she had to rely on tanks]] to carry the day against three times hore HumongousMecha than she had at hand. The subversion lies in that while the tanks were clearly inferior to the Mortar Headds, and they were [[HeroicSacrifice destroyed almost to a man]], they ''did'' held the line until the [[GunshipRescue reinforcements arrived]], and the enemy ace [[HeelFaceTurn switched sides]].

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* Subverted in ''Anime/TheFiveStarStories'', ''Manga/TheFiveStarStories'', where during the infamous [[GambitPileup Emperor Rescue Mission]] the extremely light forces, with which Mishalu Ha Lonn took off to Both, meant that [[WithThisHerring she had to rely on tanks]] to carry the day against three times hore HumongousMecha than she had at hand. The subversion lies in that while the tanks were clearly inferior to the Mortar Headds, and they were [[HeroicSacrifice destroyed almost to a man]], they ''did'' held the line until the [[GunshipRescue reinforcements arrived]], and the enemy ace [[HeelFaceTurn switched sides]].
9th Jul '17 9:08:10 AM nombretomado
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* Justified for human tanks in ''Literature/{{Worldwar}}'' during the initial tetralogy, as the [[TheReptilians Race]] level of military tech is roughly equivalent to TheFifties or TheSixties (and they strike during WorldWarTwo). On the flipside, their own "landcruisers" are very difficult to destroy due to their better armor and millennia of perfecting all this tech. Even Germans manage to destroy a few of them by using better tactics and the terrain to their advantage (e.g. hitting a Race landcruiser in the poorly armored bottom as its crossing a hilltop), while also losing most (if not all) tanks involved in those fights. Shoulder-launched [=RPGs=] also work, but not against the heavy frontal armor. By the follow-up trilogy, however, taking place nearly two decades later, German tanks have reached a one-to-one parity with their Race counterparts in terms of survivability and firepower, as well as through the use of superior tactics. The tanks of the other major free powers are likely not far behind. It can be assumed that, by ''Homeward Bound'', most of which takes place in 2031 (i.e. nearly 90 years after the first novel), human military technology has surpassed that of the Race by a wide margin ([[spoiler:this is signified by the arrival of the American FTL starship ''Commodore Perry'' into the orbit of Home, the Race's homeworld]]).

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* Justified for human tanks in ''Literature/{{Worldwar}}'' during the initial tetralogy, as the [[TheReptilians Race]] level of military tech is roughly equivalent to TheFifties or TheSixties (and they strike during WorldWarTwo).UsefulNotes/WorldWarII). On the flipside, their own "landcruisers" are very difficult to destroy due to their better armor and millennia of perfecting all this tech. Even Germans manage to destroy a few of them by using better tactics and the terrain to their advantage (e.g. hitting a Race landcruiser in the poorly armored bottom as its crossing a hilltop), while also losing most (if not all) tanks involved in those fights. Shoulder-launched [=RPGs=] also work, but not against the heavy frontal armor. By the follow-up trilogy, however, taking place nearly two decades later, German tanks have reached a one-to-one parity with their Race counterparts in terms of survivability and firepower, as well as through the use of superior tactics. The tanks of the other major free powers are likely not far behind. It can be assumed that, by ''Homeward Bound'', most of which takes place in 2031 (i.e. nearly 90 years after the first novel), human military technology has surpassed that of the Race by a wide margin ([[spoiler:this is signified by the arrival of the American FTL starship ''Commodore Perry'' into the orbit of Home, the Race's homeworld]]).
27th Jun '17 8:20:46 AM xcountryguy
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** [[spoiler: correction: one gargantuan SuperSoldier that's been conditioned to ignore pain, and his ''13mm, armor-piercing'' '''HandCannon'''.]]

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** [[spoiler: correction: [[spoiler:correction: one gargantuan SuperSoldier that's been conditioned to ignore pain, and his ''13mm, armor-piercing'' '''HandCannon'''.]]



* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'': Tanks have generally been phased out due to PoweredArmor becoming widespread in modern militaries. One of the short stories in the ''Worlds of Honor'' {{Anthology}} series features tanks, but they are stated to only be useful because the planet they are on has little in the way of a modern military force. [[spoiler: One of the characters is killed using a tank in a duel against a [[DeathFromAbove Havenite shuttle]], though the shuttle is destroyed as well.]]

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* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'': Tanks have generally been phased out due to PoweredArmor becoming widespread in modern militaries. One of the short stories in the ''Worlds of Honor'' {{Anthology}} series features tanks, but they are stated to only be useful because the planet they are on has little in the way of a modern military force. [[spoiler: One [[spoiler:One of the characters is killed using a tank in a duel against a [[DeathFromAbove Havenite shuttle]], though the shuttle is destroyed as well.]]



* Spoofed in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'', when [[spoiler: Cumberland turns into a HumongousMecha. The President of the United States wants to counter with a mecha of her own, but upon realizing they don't ''have'' one, she gives up and tells them to just send some tanks, knowing full well that those are just cannon fodder for mecha.]]

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* Spoofed in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'', when [[spoiler: Cumberland [[spoiler:Cumberland turns into a HumongousMecha. The President of the United States wants to counter with a mecha of her own, but upon realizing they don't ''have'' one, she gives up and tells them to just send some tanks, knowing full well that those are just cannon fodder for mecha.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' the finale features a scene [[spoiler: during the taking of Ba Sing Se where pretty much every one of the Order of the White Lotus has fun beating the crap out of Fire nation]] tanks.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' the finale features a scene [[spoiler: during [[spoiler:during the taking of Ba Sing Se where pretty much every one of the Order of the White Lotus has fun beating the crap out of Fire nation]] tanks.
24th Jun '17 11:47:33 AM nombretomado
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* In ''CodeGeass'', Japanese tanks prove to be useless against Britannian HumongousMecha. Oh the irony.

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* In ''CodeGeass'', ''Anime/CodeGeass'', Japanese tanks prove to be useless against Britannian HumongousMecha. Oh the irony.
21st May '17 2:10:56 PM Zaptech
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* In ''Film/IronMan1'', Tony Stark (in his IronMan suit) gets matched up against a tank. The tank was able to accurately knock him out of the sky with a shell, and scuff up his armor (there's a deleted scene that showed how bad the damage was). Iron Man stands right back up, looks at the tank, fires a dinky missile at it, and walks away. [[YouAreAlreadyDead Said tank then explodes]].[[note]]The missile flew down the tanks gun and, presumably, through the open breach and set off the ammo rack[[/note]]
** [[AllThereInTheManual The novelization]] confirms that the missile did penetrate a weak spot on the tank and set off the ammo. Also, if you look closely, the tank doesn't actually knock down Iron Man with its main gun- rather it does it with an [[https://czarmarvel.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/iron-man-tank-anti-aircraft-gun.png anti-aircraft gun]] [[https://czarmarvel.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/iron-man-tank-anti-aircraft-gun-3.png mounted on the side]] of the turret. This makes sense when you remember that, in the scene right after this, Iron Man's armor receives noticeable damage after an F-22 scores three or so hits with its 20mm cannon. An actual tank shell would've pulped him. [[LightningBruiser Iron Man is]] [[ImmuneToBullets very tough,]] [[CurbStompCushion but not invincible]].

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* In ''Film/IronMan1'', Tony Stark (in his IronMan suit) gets matched up against a tank. The tank was able to accurately knock him out of the sky with a shell, and scuff up his armor (there's a deleted scene that showed how bad the damage was). Iron Man stands right back up, looks at the tank, fires a dinky missile at it, and walks away. [[YouAreAlreadyDead Said tank then explodes]].[[note]]The missile flew down the tanks gun and, presumably, through the open breach and set off the ammo rack[[/note]]
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[[AllThereInTheManual The novelization]] confirms that the missile did penetrate a weak spot on the tank and set off the ammo. Also, if you look closely, the tank doesn't actually knock down Iron Man with its main gun- rather it does it with an [[https://czarmarvel.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/iron-man-tank-anti-aircraft-gun.png anti-aircraft gun]] [[https://czarmarvel.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/iron-man-tank-anti-aircraft-gun-3.png mounted on the side]] of the turret. This makes sense when you remember that, in the scene right after this, Iron Man's armor receives noticeable damage after an F-22 scores three or so hits with its 20mm cannon. An actual tank shell would've pulped him. [[LightningBruiser Iron Man is]] [[ImmuneToBullets very tough,]] [[CurbStompCushion but not invincible]]. ammo.
21st May '17 2:08:14 PM Zaptech
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** Truth to be told, to date M1 MBT doesn't have a proper antipersonnel HE-Frag shell, the ones officially designated as such are more of an afterthought, being a somewhat tuned HEAT round, or a honest-to-God Napoleonic-era throwback: the cannister shot. Unfortunately, modern tanks are ill-suited to feeding zombies the old-fashioned whiffs of grapeshot ''[[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte le petit caporal]]''-style.
16th May '17 7:30:51 PM nombretomado
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* ''UniverseAtWar'' plays this trope several different ways:

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* ''UniverseAtWar'' ''VideoGame/UniverseAtWar'' plays this trope several different ways:
9th May '17 6:13:11 PM Killerweinerdog
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* ''Anime/{{Gasaraki}}'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4b-haPATmI features a squad of mechs single-handily destroying an entire regiment of Main Battle Tanks and Infantry Fighting Vehicles in open desert combat]]... [[MookHorrorShow Mostly from the perspective of the tank and IFV crews]] as they try to deal with a major OutsideContextProblem in the form of HumongousMecha that can run faster than they can traverse their turrets.

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* ''Anime/{{Gasaraki}}'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4b-haPATmI features a squad of mechs single-handily destroying an entire regiment of Main Battle Tanks and Infantry Fighting Vehicles in open desert combat]]... [[MookHorrorShow Mostly from the perspective of the tank and IFV crews]] as they try to deal with a major OutsideContextProblem in the form of HumongousMecha that can run faster than they can traverse their turrets.turrets, though it also didn't help that the regiment commander seemed to get his tactics from the back of a cereal box.
11th Mar '17 1:31:31 PM Euodiachloris
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* ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'' has the Cattank. It ''does'' kind of look like a cat if you squint a bit. And, it very definitely has treads. And, it does get to be kind of fitted for battle in the [[AfterTheEnd Silent World]] (in the most cheapskate way imaginable). But, it's far closer to being a [[TheAllegedCar clapped-out RV modified for comms jobs behind the lines]] than it is an actual, you know, [[TankGoodness troll-ready tank]].
8th Mar '17 11:26:45 AM nombretomado
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** In ''MechWarrior 4'', tanks are absolute joke enemies - the die in a couple hits from almost any weapon, and while some of them have powerful weapons, [[ArtificialStupidity they almost never fire them]]. The trope is [[TankGoodness thankfully averted]] in ''MechWarrior Living Legends'', where heavy tanks like the [[MightyGlacier Demolisher]] can rip any battlemech to pieces with glee, and light tanks can drive ([[MultiTrackDrifting or drift]]) in circles around the more sluggish mechs.

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** In ''MechWarrior ''[=MechWarrior=] 4'', tanks are absolute joke enemies - the die in a couple hits from almost any weapon, and while some of them have powerful weapons, [[ArtificialStupidity they almost never fire them]]. The trope is [[TankGoodness thankfully averted]] in ''MechWarrior ''[=MechWarrior=] Living Legends'', where heavy tanks like the [[MightyGlacier Demolisher]] can rip any battlemech to pieces with glee, and light tanks can drive ([[MultiTrackDrifting or drift]]) in circles around the more sluggish mechs.
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