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27th Aug '16 7:32:38 AM erforce
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* Pistols, cannons and swords pale in comparison to this trope's power in ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean''. Jack Sparrow can talk himself out of any situation, and he seemed to have fun teaching the fine art to Will and Elizabeth. Best examples are Jack talking Norrington's sword from his throat to Will's, Jack talking himself out of a DealWithTheDevil, bribing help from his enemies several times, and convincing Will that he should help Jack find the key to the Dead's Man's Chest ''"Because the finding of this finds you incapacitorially finding and/or locating in you discovering, detecting of a way to save your dolly-bell, oh.. whats-her-face?"''

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* Pistols, cannons and swords pale in comparison to this trope's power in ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean''.''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean''. Jack Sparrow can talk himself out of any situation, and he seemed to have fun teaching the fine art to Will and Elizabeth. Best examples are Jack talking Norrington's sword from his throat to Will's, Jack talking himself out of a DealWithTheDevil, bribing help from his enemies several times, and convincing Will that he should help Jack find the key to the Dead's Man's Chest ''"Because the finding of this finds you incapacitorially finding and/or locating in you discovering, detecting of a way to save your dolly-bell, oh.. whats-her-face?"''



* In ''GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', this tends to be Peter Quill, aka Star-Lord's, M.O. since he's a [[PunyEarthlings Puny Earthling]] surrounded by stronger and/or better-armed foes. He managed to talk an enraged Drax down from murdering Gamora, and convinced Rocket, who originally wanted to turn him in for a bounty, to team up with him and Gamora and escape the Kyln. Then he managed to convince an enraged Yondu who was seconds away from murdering him to team up and help the team defeat Ronan.

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* In ''GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', this tends to be Peter Quill, aka Star-Lord's, M.O. since he's a [[PunyEarthlings Puny Earthling]] surrounded by stronger and/or better-armed foes. He managed to talk an enraged Drax down from murdering Gamora, and convinced Rocket, who originally wanted to turn him in for a bounty, to team up with him and Gamora and escape the Kyln. Then he managed to convince an enraged Yondu who was seconds away from murdering him to team up and help the team defeat Ronan.
18th Aug '16 1:17:42 AM PaulA
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* Miles Vorkosigan of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' runs on this. Unfortunately, some of his adversaries have grown somewhat Miles savvy. From ''The Vor Game:''
-->'''Admiral Oser''': Space them... Use the portside access lock, it's closest. If he, [pointing to Miles] starts to talk, stop his tongue. It's his most dangerous organ.
-->'''Miles''': Aren't you even going to have me chemically interrogated?
-->'''Oser''': And contaminate my interrogators? The last thing I want is to give you rein to talk, to anyone... Whatever your planned speech, removing your air will neutralize it. You nearly convinced ''me.''

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* Miles Vorkosigan of the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' runs on this. Unfortunately, some of his adversaries have grown somewhat Miles savvy. From ''The Vor Game:''
''Literature/TheVorGame'':
-->'''Admiral Oser''': Oser:''' Space them... Use the portside access lock, it's closest. If he, [pointing ''[pointing to Miles] Miles]'' starts to talk, stop his tongue. It's his most dangerous organ.
-->'''Miles''':
organ.\\
'''Miles:'''
Aren't you even going to have me chemically interrogated?
-->'''Oser''':
interrogated?\\
'''Oser:'''
And contaminate my interrogators? The last thing I want is to give you rein to talk, to anyone... Whatever your planned speech, removing your air will neutralize it. You nearly convinced ''me.''
7th Jun '16 2:50:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Sun Tzu's TheArtOfWar advises the aspiring strategist that [[ToWinWithoutFighting actual combat is the lowest form of victory]]. It is the sign of a [[TheStrategist competent strategist]] to win by [[GeoEffects out-manuvering]] or [[VictoryThroughIntimidation intimidating]] your opponent, but the sign of a [[TheChessmaster great strategist]] is invoking this trope on a conflict-wide scale, manipulating an enemy into being your UnwittingPawn or even your [[HeelFaceTurn ally]]. The sign of the [[GuileHero true master strategist]] is winning without the enemy never even realizing that they've lost, simply by negotiation and misdirection.

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* Sun Tzu's TheArtOfWar ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'' advises the aspiring strategist that [[ToWinWithoutFighting actual combat is the lowest form of victory]]. It is the sign of a [[TheStrategist competent strategist]] to win by [[GeoEffects out-manuvering]] or [[VictoryThroughIntimidation intimidating]] your opponent, but the sign of a [[TheChessmaster great strategist]] is invoking this trope on a conflict-wide scale, manipulating an enemy into being your UnwittingPawn or even your [[HeelFaceTurn ally]]. The sign of the [[GuileHero true master strategist]] is winning without the enemy never even realizing that they've lost, simply by negotiation and misdirection.
20th Mar '16 5:12:51 AM Veanne
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* [[Audioplay/TalesOfAJunkTownPonyPeddler Peddler]], being a BadassNormal, manages to convince a slaver he's obviously a Very Badass Person in disguise (well, can you tell how badass he is? Of course not, since he's travelling incognito. [[InsaneTrollLogic Logical?]]) He was speaking very, very calmly, [[RefugeInAudacity at a gunpoint]].
31st Jan '16 10:20:17 AM Eievie
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He sits back, pretends to accept his fate and engages in surreptitious psychological warfare against most or all of the members of the enemy group. Engaging them in idle conversation, he plants the seeds of discord, playing on the ...
* ... [[{{Pride}} egos]] - "How can you take orders from that buffoon? You should really be the one in charge."
* ... [[HonorBeforeReason reputations]] - "[[NobodyCallsMeChicken What, are you too afraid to release me and fight me yourself?]]"
* ... {{greed}} - "What are they paying you? I'll double it."
* ... sympathies - "These morons don't understand you."
* ... insecurities - "It's really a shame the rest of them don't pay any attention to you."
* ... [[ShowSomeLeg sex appeal]] - "You know what I really like? A man in a cage."
* ... and [[DividedWeFall mutual distrust]] - "You realize he's just going to off the rest of you once he gets what he wants, right?"

... of each individual member.

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He sits back, pretends to accept his fate and engages in surreptitious psychological warfare against most or all of the members of the enemy group. Engaging them in idle conversation, he plants the seeds of discord, playing on the ...
the...
* ... [[{{Pride}} egos]] - -- "How can you take orders from that buffoon? You should really be the one in charge."
* ... [[HonorBeforeReason reputations]] - -- "[[NobodyCallsMeChicken What, are you too afraid to release me and fight me yourself?]]"
* ... {{greed}} - -- "What are they paying you? I'll double it."
* ... sympathies - -- "These morons don't understand you."
* ... insecurities - -- "It's really a shame the rest of them don't pay any attention to you."
* ... [[ShowSomeLeg sex appeal]] - -- "You know what I really like? A man in a cage."
* ... and [[DividedWeFall mutual distrust]] - -- "You realize he's just going to off the rest of you once he gets what he wants, right?"

...
right?"

...
of each individual member.



* Done by The Joker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. After Batman and Commissioner Gordon leave, he is left alone in the interrogation room with one of Gordon's detectives ... at which point The Joker goads the policeman into attacking him by explaining his motivations for killing six of that detective's friends. At which point, he makes his escape. What makes this a truly interesting case is that the detective was warned beforehand that the Joker would use this tactic on him, and not to fall for it. The problem is that the Joker is just ''that good'' at manipulating people.

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* Done by The Joker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. After Batman and Commissioner Gordon leave, he is left alone in the interrogation room with one of Gordon's detectives ...detectives... at which point The Joker goads the policeman into attacking him by explaining his motivations for killing six of that detective's friends. At which point, he makes his escape. What makes this a truly interesting case is that the detective was warned beforehand that the Joker would use this tactic on him, and not to fall for it. The problem is that the Joker is just ''that good'' at manipulating people.



-->'''Admiral Oser''': Space them. ... Use the portside access lock, it's closest. If he, [pointing to Miles] starts to talk, stop his tongue. It's his most dangerous organ.

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-->'''Admiral Oser''': Space them. ...them... Use the portside access lock, it's closest. If he, [pointing to Miles] starts to talk, stop his tongue. It's his most dangerous organ.



-->'''Oser''': And contaminate my interrogators? The last thing I want is to give you rein to talk, to anyone. ... Whatever your planned speech, removing your air will neutralize it. You nearly convinced ''me.''

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-->'''Oser''': And contaminate my interrogators? The last thing I want is to give you rein to talk, to anyone. ...anyone... Whatever your planned speech, removing your air will neutralize it. You nearly convinced ''me.''



** It's awesome when it works, but the times when it fails are more interesting, and also generally awful and depressing, because you often really think he's going to pull it off this time...right before someone dies.

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** It's awesome when it works, but the times when it fails are more interesting, and also generally awful and depressing, because you often really think he's going to pull it off this time... right before someone dies.



* An odd variation in ''Roleplay/{{AJCO}}'' when [[BadassPacifist Egg]] returned to the Silo. She hadn't been captured, she'd gone in willingly, but her friend Vinnie had been trapped for a while - so she talked ''her'' way in and ''Vinnie's'' way out. She also managed to get herself out safely, despite the fact that A_J had a more than handful of reasons to want her dead and could easily have made it happen.

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* An odd variation in ''Roleplay/{{AJCO}}'' when [[BadassPacifist Egg]] returned to the Silo. She hadn't been captured, she'd gone in willingly, but her friend Vinnie had been trapped for a while - -- so she talked ''her'' way in and ''Vinnie's'' way out. She also managed to get herself out safely, despite the fact that A_J had a more than handful of reasons to want her dead and could easily have made it happen.



** When caught and held defenseless by Scarface's gang, Batman convinces Scarface that the one who sold them out was Arnold Wesker, aka The Ventriloquist. Scarface angrily orders his men to kill Wesker, Scarface ''is'' Arnold Wesker - he is just a [[DemonicDummy ventriloquist's doll]] that Wesker uses to manifest his psychotic SplitPersonality, so the men hesitate and Scarface thinks they are traitors as well. Batman escapes in the chaos and bring the gangsters down.

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** When caught and held defenseless by Scarface's gang, Batman convinces Scarface that the one who sold them out was Arnold Wesker, aka The Ventriloquist. Scarface angrily orders his men to kill Wesker, Scarface ''is'' Arnold Wesker - -- he is just a [[DemonicDummy ventriloquist's doll]] that Wesker uses to manifest his psychotic SplitPersonality, so the men hesitate and Scarface thinks they are traitors as well. Batman escapes in the chaos and bring the gangsters down.



** Perhaps this inspired [[TheHero Aang]] to try this on Zhao four episodes later...It didn't work.
* ReBoot. This is Bob's only option to deal with Hexadecimal in the early episodes, since Hex is far more powerful than Bob. When she succeeds in [[TakenForGranite turning the entire city to stone]] Bob has to convince her that petrifying the city goes against her nature as a chaos virus. To be precise, a petrified city is the opposite of chaotic- it's quiet, predictable, and the same forever. This works and she reverses the effect and lets Bob go.

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** Perhaps this inspired [[TheHero Aang]] to try this on Zhao four episodes later... It didn't work.
* ReBoot. This is Bob's only option to deal with Hexadecimal in the early episodes, since Hex is far more powerful than Bob. When she succeeds in [[TakenForGranite turning the entire city to stone]] Bob has to convince her that petrifying the city goes against her nature as a chaos virus. To be precise, a petrified city is the opposite of chaotic- chaotic -- it's quiet, predictable, and the same forever. This works and she reverses the effect and lets Bob go.



A brief summary: Yudkowsky is a member of an organization aiming to make [[AIIsACrapshoot any future AI we may build less of a Crapshoot]], and when he told people this, one common reaction was, "Why not just lock the AI away where it couldn't do anything and only let it answer questions?" When he replied that the AI would convince its captors to remove the locks, they replied, "They couldn't convince ''me!''" Sick of this exchange, he decided that he had better prove them wrong ... which he did by making them stake cash on them not letting ''Yudkowsky'' (who played the AI) out during a two-hour RP session in a private chatroom, and winning three times in a row.

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A brief summary: Yudkowsky is a member of an organization aiming to make [[AIIsACrapshoot any future AI we may build less of a Crapshoot]], and when he told people this, one common reaction was, "Why not just lock the AI away where it couldn't do anything and only let it answer questions?" When he replied that the AI would convince its captors to remove the locks, they replied, "They couldn't convince ''me!''" Sick of this exchange, he decided that he had better prove them wrong ...wrong... which he did by making them stake cash on them not letting ''Yudkowsky'' (who played the AI) out during a two-hour RP session in a private chatroom, and winning three times in a row.
8th Jan '16 1:14:23 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the three-part episode of ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' "A Different Shade of Pink", Zedd and Rita have [[TeamRocketWins actually gotten the better of the heroes]] for a change; they've captured Kat and the Falconzord, ''and'' stolen Kimberly's Power Coin. Then they mess up by telling Rita's idiot brother Rito to watch Kat. She offers to massage his shoulders (noticing that he's sore and bored) and he falls asleep (much to Kat's relief, [[UncleanlinessIsNextToUngodliness as she didn't like touching him]]) manages to get the keys to her cell from him, and ''then'' get Kimberly's Coin, and once she ''has'' it, the Rangers are able to teleport her out.
5th Nov '15 3:29:24 PM StFan
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* When Quinton Zempfester is imprisoned by trolls in [[ThievesAndKings Thieves & Kings]], he talks his way out by excitedly greeting one of the trolls as the spy sent to free him, thus creating suspicion among the other trolls that he is a spy, and setting in motion a self-fulfilling prophecy, as the hapless troll finds that he is doomed to torture for his imaginary spy secrets if he does not go rogue and flee immediately. Rather than face this fugitive fate alone, Quinton offers the troll his assistance, if released, and the two make a break for it together.
* In ''[[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} X-Men Unlimited # 47]]'', ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} wakes up after a fight with an army of generic Black Ops Ninjas to find himself strapped down and about to have his eyes cut out by a low-on-ethics surgeon. He calmly explains to the surgeon that he'd better remember to kill him when he's done, because he's memorised the brand of the surgical equipment in the room and will be able to track him down by it. Oh, and even if he is dead, there's a telepathic redhead who will be looking for his killers. Either way, the end result will be a conversation with Wolverine. The surgeon lets him go, [[MakeItLookLikeAStruggle requesting a light beating to justify the escape]]. Cyclops is happy to oblige.

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* When Quinton Zempfester is imprisoned by trolls in [[ThievesAndKings Thieves & Kings]], ''ComicBook/ThievesAndKings'', he talks his way out by excitedly greeting one of the trolls as the spy sent to free him, thus creating suspicion among the other trolls that he is a spy, and setting in motion a self-fulfilling prophecy, as the hapless troll finds that he is doomed to torture for his imaginary spy secrets if he does not go rogue and flee immediately. Rather than face this fugitive fate alone, Quinton offers the troll his assistance, if released, and the two make a break for it together.
* In ''[[Comicbook/{{X-Men}} ''[[ComicBook/XMen X-Men Unlimited # 47]]'', ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} wakes up after a fight with an army of generic Black Ops Ninjas to find himself strapped down and about to have his eyes cut out by a low-on-ethics surgeon. He calmly explains to the surgeon that he'd better remember to kill him when he's done, because he's memorised the brand of the surgical equipment in the room and will be able to track him down by it. Oh, and even if he is dead, there's a telepathic redhead who will be looking for his killers. Either way, the end result will be a conversation with Wolverine. The surgeon lets him go, [[MakeItLookLikeAStruggle requesting a light beating to justify the escape]]. Cyclops is happy to oblige.
21st Oct '15 10:55:45 AM Xelloss08
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* In ''Literature/{{Zeroes}}'', this is one of the applications of Scam's Voice. When he is in a bad situation, it provides exactly the words he needs for him to get out of it. However, the Voice is not all-powerful: it's possible for Scam to be in a situation where no possible words will work, in which case the Voice falls silent.
1st Oct '15 6:25:45 PM MKantor
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' gives you this option in a sidequest, though [[GuideDangIt the conditions have to be just right]]. Hawke can hunt down a group of rogue mages who are practicing blood magic on the Wounded Coast, and let them go. Upon exiting a cavern, Hawke and company will encounter a group of templars who are looking for said blood mages. If MagnificentBastard Varrick is in your party, Hawke has the option of having Varrick spin a good line about how the mages have fled in the opposite direction, thus ensuring the mages and templars won't bump into each other. Even better is that this earns you points with both sides of the Mage-Templar Conflict.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' gives you this option in a sidequest, though [[GuideDangIt the conditions have to be just right]]. Hawke can hunt down a group of rogue mages who are practicing blood magic on the Wounded Coast, and let them go. Upon exiting a cavern, Hawke and company will encounter a group of templars who are looking for said blood mages. If MagnificentBastard Varrick Varric is in your party, Hawke has the option of having Varrick Varric spin a good line about how the mages have fled in the opposite direction, thus ensuring the mages and templars won't bump into each other. Even better is that this earns you points with both sides of the Mage-Templar Conflict.
23rd Aug '15 10:09:52 AM nombretomado
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* GundamWing: One of Relena Darlian's specialties. Early in the story she convinced a certain HitmanWithAHeart with a gun not to shoot her to death... and then she roped him into dancing with her at a high-class party!

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* GundamWing: ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'': One of Relena Darlian's specialties. Early in the story she convinced a certain HitmanWithAHeart with a gun not to shoot her to death... and then she roped him into dancing with her at a high-class party!
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