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30th Oct '16 10:10:52 AM jamespolk
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* In Film/SearchingForBobbyFischer, Josh's dad blasts his teacher for flippantly referring to his remarkable talent and interest in chess as "this chess thing":
--> You want to know how good he is? I'll tell you how good he is. He's better at this than I have ever been at ''anything'' in my life. He's better at this than you'll ''ever'' be at ''anything''. My son has a gift.

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* In Film/SearchingForBobbyFischer, Josh's dad blasts his teacher for flippantly referring Chess movie ''Film/QueenOfKatwe'': The exact moment that Robert realizes this comes when he believes that Phiona has made a mistake and failed to respond to his remarkable talent attack. She proceeds to show him an eight-move sequence in which she forks with a bishop and interest in chess as "this chess thing":
--> You want to know how good he is? I'll tell you how good he is. He's better at this than I have ever been at ''anything'' in my life. He's better at this than you'll ''ever'' be at ''anything''. My son has a gift.
takes Robert's rook. Robert is astonished that she can see eight moves deep.
10th Sep '16 10:31:52 PM ultimomant
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* In ''Anime/DevilMayCryTheAnimatedSeries'', Baul was a demon swordsman who was trained by Dante's father Sparda. Since Sparda is dead, Baul attacks Dante, both out of resentment for Sparda abandoning him, and because he believes defeating Dante will prove he had surpassed Sparda. He fails and Dante slays him.
25th Aug '16 9:45:06 AM Jacob175
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* Wally West was once the first Kid Flash, the {{Sidekick}} to the second [[TheFlash Flash]], Barry Allen. After Barry's death, Wally was depowered due to events during the ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', but he eventually surpassed Barry in terms of speed and accomplishments, becoming the first speedster to enter the Speed Force and come back. All the Flashes have said it, but Wally West truly is [[RedBaron The Fastest Man Alive]].

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* Wally West was once the first Kid Flash, the {{Sidekick}} to the second [[TheFlash [[Franchise/TheFlash Flash]], Barry Allen. After Barry's death, Wally was depowered due to events during the ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', but he eventually surpassed Barry in terms of speed and accomplishments, becoming the first speedster to enter the Speed Force and come back. All the Flashes have said it, but Wally West truly is [[RedBaron The Fastest Man Alive]].


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* Amy spends the ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'' episode "Fuzzy Puppy Buddies" teaching Dr. Eggman how to play the titular game. When he manages to best her, she declares this.
9th Aug '16 4:11:18 AM harostar
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* In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul[=:Re=]'', Haise Sasaki's task is to train an Investigator that will become a SuperiorSuccessor to the legendary Kishou Arima (his mentor). Eventually, a GambitPileup leads to student and mentor engaging in a battle to the death. [[spoiler: This is all according to Arima's long-term plan to groom Kaneki into a person capable of not only killing him, but becoming the leader of LaResistance. However, Kaneki loves his [[ParentalSubstitute surrogate father]] too much to finish him off, leading Arima to [[DrivenToSuicide take matters]] into his own hands. He asks Kaneki to take credit for killing him, to complete the KlingtonPromotion aspect of his plan]].
4th Jul '16 1:56:32 AM Morgenthaler
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-->--'''[[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]''', to [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan Kenobi]], ''Film/ANewHope''

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-->--'''[[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]''', to [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan Kenobi]], Kenobi, ''Film/ANewHope''
24th Jun '16 3:40:04 PM DarkHunter
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--->'''Dooku''': I've become more powerful than any Jedi, even you!\\
''[Yoda effortlessly blocks, absorbs, or deflects all of Dooku's Force attacks on him]''\\
'''Yoda''': [[OldMaster Much to learn you still have.]]
5th Jun '16 6:00:52 PM AndyLA
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-->--'''[[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]'''

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-->--'''[[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]'''
Vader]]''', to [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan Kenobi]], ''Film/ANewHope''
28th Apr '16 8:42:15 PM ultimomant
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** PlayedWith at the beginning of the series. Goku's mentor, Master Roshi, disguises himself to participate without getting known at a tournament. The viewer expects this trope to appear, as Goku manages to evade all of Roshi's tactics to defeat him. However, despite Goku having managed to succeed to all of Roshi's attempts, Goku lost to him after he was goaded into a final jump-kick, receiving the brunt of the injury. There's also the fact, because Goku didn't know he was fighting Roshi, he never knew how strong his master actually is. There were some hints that Roshi was much more skilled than lets on in the series, though it became clear that Goku surpassed him by the 22nd World Tournament. This is PlayedForDrama in the King Piccolo Saga. After losing to Piccolo, Goku goes to Korin and asked him to train him again so he can become stronger than Piccolo. Korin can only tell him that he already surpassed him and he can teach him nothing. By the end of the original ''Dragon Ball'', Goku surpassed all his teachers, including Kami. At the beginning of ''Z'', he needs to become stronger than King Kai just to have a remote chance against the Saiyans since they were stronger than him.
** PlayedWith in regard to Gohan as well. By the Cell Games, Gohan surpassed both Piccolo and his father, becoming the strongest characters in the series up to that point. After the seven year time skip, Goku surpasses Gohan since he slacked off and actually got weaker. After getting empowered by Old Kai, Gohan becomes the strongest hero in the series again. He slacks off, again, and Goku greatly surpasses him by a laughable degree by ''Resurration 'F'''.
* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', where the title character [[CantCatchUp cannot surpass]] his mentor Hiko, because he simply does not possess the physique to fully use the Hiten Mitsurugi style. In fairness, Hiko is ''the'' strongest character in the series by a wide margin, so just being second to him means being extremely power. Also, when a Muteki style fighter whose sensei was killed by Kenshin showed up wanting to kill Kenshin for that, it was not for vengeance but because killing Kenshin would prove he surpassed his master.

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** PlayedWith at the beginning of the series. Goku's mentor, Master Roshi, disguises himself to participate without getting known at a tournament. The viewer expects this trope to appear, as Goku manages to evade all of Roshi's tactics to defeat him. However, despite Goku having managed to succeed to all of Roshi's attempts, Goku lost to him after he was goaded into a final jump-kick, receiving the brunt of the injury. There's also the fact, because Goku didn't know he was fighting Roshi, he never knew how strong his master actually is. There were some hints that Roshi was much more skilled than he lets on in the series, though it became clear that Goku surpassed him by the 22nd World Tournament. This is PlayedForDrama in the King Piccolo Saga. After losing to Piccolo, Goku goes to Korin and asked him to train him again so he can become stronger than Piccolo. Korin can only tell him that he already surpassed him and he can teach him nothing. By the end of the original ''Dragon Ball'', Goku surpassed all his teachers, including Kami. At the beginning of ''Z'', he needs to become stronger than King Kai just to have a remote chance against the Saiyans since they were stronger than him.
** PlayedWith in regard to Gohan as well. By the Cell Games, Gohan surpassed both Piccolo and his father, becoming the strongest characters in the series up to that point. After the seven year time skip, Goku surpasses Gohan since he slacked off and actually got weaker. After getting empowered by Old Kai, Gohan becomes the strongest hero in the series again. He slacks off, again, and Goku greatly surpasses him by a laughable degree by ''Resurration ''Resurrection 'F'''.
* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'':
** Averted
where the title character [[CantCatchUp cannot surpass]] his mentor Hiko, because he simply does not possess the physique to fully use the Hiten Mitsurugi style. In fairness, Hiko is ''the'' strongest character in the series by a wide margin, so just being second to him means being extremely power. powerful. Also, when a Muteki style fighter whose sensei was killed by Kenshin showed up wanting to kill Kenshin for that, it was not for vengeance but because killing Kenshin would prove he surpassed his master.master.
** In the manga, Sanosuke Sagara upgrades Anji's finishing move, Mastery of Two Layers, which Anji had taught him, into Mastery of ''Three'' Layers and defeats him with it. This didn't make it into the anime, which turned their fight into a draw.



* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Ash owns and trains a Froakie, a ninja-frog Pokémon. Over the course of his journey through Kalos Ash meets up Sanpei, who hails from a Ninja Village and trains a Frogadier, Froakie's evolved form. Sanpei and Frogadier (who later on becomes a Greninja) take on the role of mentor to Ash and Froakie and help them learn new moves such as Double Team. By the time Ash's Froakie [[spoiler: reaches it's Greninja stage, however, Ash's Greninja]] becomes TheAce of the Kalos series as a whole and even gets [[spoiler:a powerful SuperMode]] because of his close bond with Ash, while Sanpei and his Greninja fall victim to TheWorfEffect.

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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Ash owns and trains a Froakie, a ninja-frog Pokémon. Over the course of his journey through Kalos Ash meets up with Sanpei, who hails from a Ninja Village and trains a Frogadier, Froakie's evolved form. Sanpei and Frogadier (who later on becomes a Greninja) take on the role of mentor to Ash and Froakie and help them learn new moves such as Double Team. By the time Ash's Froakie [[spoiler: reaches it's Greninja stage, however, Ash's Greninja]] becomes TheAce of the Kalos series as a whole and even gets [[spoiler:a powerful SuperMode]] because of his close bond with Ash, while Sanpei and his Greninja fall victim to TheWorfEffect.
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** One of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own master told him in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''), but it's later [[SubvertedTrope proven to not be the case]] when he defeats Vader in combat. MatthewStover doesn't refer to Obi-Wan as "the ultimate Jedi" for nothing.

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** One of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own master told him in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''), but it's later [[SubvertedTrope proven to not be the case]] when he defeats Vader in combat. MatthewStover Creator/MattStover doesn't refer to Obi-Wan as "the ultimate Jedi" for nothing.
























* {{Confucius}} claimed this to be the mark of a good student; the ability to learn everything your master had to teach, and then add something of your own.

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* {{Confucius}} Creator/{{Confucius}} claimed this to be the mark of a good student; the ability to learn everything your master had to teach, and then add something of your own.
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* In the ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode, "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E12PinkiePride Pinkie Pride]]", after TheReveal, it turns out that [[Music/WeirdAlYankovic Cheese Sandwich]] has done this since [[spoiler:Pinkie Pie was his inspiration for becoming a party pony, and the whole episode shows him able to trump Pinkie's antics]].

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* In the ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode, "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E12PinkiePride Pinkie Pride]]", after TheReveal, it turns out that [[Music/WeirdAlYankovic Cheese Sandwich]] has done this since [[spoiler:Pinkie Pie was his inspiration for becoming a party pony, and the whole episode shows him able to trump Pinkie's antics]].



5th Mar '16 9:34:14 PM ultimomant
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* In Anime/Pokémon, Ash owns and trains a Froakie, a ninja-frog Pokémon. Over the course of his journey through Kalos Ash meets up Sanpei, who hails from a Ninja Village and trains a Frogadier, Froakie's evolved form. Sanpei and Frogadier (who later on becomes a Greninja) take on the role of mentor to Ash and Froakie and help them learn new moves such as Double Team. By the time Ash's Froakie [[spoiler: reaches it's Greninja stage, however, Ash's Greninja]] becomes TheAce of the Kalos series as a whole and even gets [[spoiler:a powerful SuperMode]] because of his close bond with Ash, while Sanpei and his Greninja fall victim to TheWorfEffect.

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* In Anime/Pokémon, ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Ash owns and trains a Froakie, a ninja-frog Pokémon. Over the course of his journey through Kalos Ash meets up Sanpei, who hails from a Ninja Village and trains a Frogadier, Froakie's evolved form. Sanpei and Frogadier (who later on becomes a Greninja) take on the role of mentor to Ash and Froakie and help them learn new moves such as Double Team. By the time Ash's Froakie [[spoiler: reaches it's Greninja stage, however, Ash's Greninja]] becomes TheAce of the Kalos series as a whole and even gets [[spoiler:a powerful SuperMode]] because of his close bond with Ash, while Sanpei and his Greninja fall victim to TheWorfEffect.
24th Feb '16 7:07:52 PM MisterTulip
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* In ''Fanfic/TheWitchOfTheEverfree'', [[spoiler:Twilight]] eventually surpasses [[spoiler:Sunset]] at magical theory. Unusually, rather than dropping out of their mentor-student relationship at that point, they just ''switch'', with [[spoiler:Twilight]] starting to teach [[spoiler:Sunset]] instead of the other way around.
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