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11th Aug '17 9:01:05 PM Kadorhal
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* ''Manga/GetterRobo'' Āḥ has mass-produced Getters who are nowhere near the godly power of Shin, who was too terrifyingly destructive to replicate. There's also the fact that limiting the amount of Getter Rays the machines can hold prevents them from [[spoiler:turning sentient]]. In ''Getter Robo Armageddon'', Professor Saotome mass produces Getter Robo G in massive numbers with the sole purpose of forming them into Shin Dragon. Ryouma doesn't care and still beats the machines to a pulp.

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* ''Manga/GetterRobo'' Āḥ ''Manga/GetterRobo Āḥ'' has mass-produced Getters who are nowhere near the godly power of Shin, who was too terrifyingly destructive to replicate. There's also the fact that limiting the amount of Getter Rays the machines can hold prevents them from [[spoiler:turning sentient]]. In ''Getter Robo Armageddon'', Professor Saotome mass produces Getter Robo G in massive numbers with the sole purpose of forming them into Shin Dragon. Ryouma doesn't care and still beats the machines to a pulp.



* ''Anime/GaoGaiGarFINAL'' is a zig-zagging example that ultimately plays this straight. [[spoiler:[=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFightGar=]]] are both based on the blueprints of [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]], but are significantly weaker; partialy due to [[spoiler:humans]] being unable to perfectly copy [[spoiler:alien]] design, and partially on purpose, as some of original's weapons were modified to serve non-offensive purpose. However, [[WordOfGod supplementary materials]] explain that [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=] would have actually performed ''worse'' against the earlier foes, since it was designed to combat the Sol Masters, while the later [=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFighGar=] were purpose-built for taking on Zonders and the 31 Primevals]]. For all intents and purposes, however, [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]] is a straight upgrade when it's acquired, since [[spoiler:the destruction of the Z-Master, and [[NoOntologicalInertia with it all Zonder metal]],]] has rendered the later models' advantages moot.

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* ''Anime/GaoGaiGarFINAL'' ''Anime/{{GaoGaiGar FINAL}}'' is a zig-zagging example that ultimately plays this straight. [[spoiler:[=GaoGaiGar=] [=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFightGar=]]] [=GaoFightGar=] are both based on the blueprints of [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]], but are significantly weaker; partialy partially due to [[spoiler:humans]] being unable to perfectly copy [[spoiler:alien]] design, and partially on purpose, as some of the original's weapons were modified to serve non-offensive purpose. However, [[WordOfGod supplementary materials]] explain that [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=] [=GaoGaiGar=]]] would have actually performed ''worse'' against the earlier foes, since it was designed to combat the Sol Masters, while the later [=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFighGar=] were purpose-built for taking on Zonders and the 31 Primevals]].Primevals. For all intents and purposes, however, [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]] is a straight upgrade when it's acquired, since [[spoiler:the destruction of the Z-Master, and [[NoOntologicalInertia with it all Zonder metal]],]] has rendered the later models' advantages moot.
10th Aug '17 6:06:48 PM Kadorhal
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* One character from ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', [[spoiler:Subaru Nakajima]] is a self-admitted homage to ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars''. [[spoiler:It turns out that she]] is the prototype to the Number cyborgs, stronger than the rest of them, and [[spoiler:so is her sister Ginga]]. The special moves "borrowed" from such {{Super Robot|Genre}}s like ''Anime/GEARFighterDendoh'', ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'', ''Manga/CombattlerV'' and more make this homage especially apparent.
** It's not that [[spoiler:Subaru]] is stronger than the Numbers. She just happens to have a Inherent Skill which is very effective against cyborgs. Also [[spoiler:both sisters]] are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s compared to the GlassCannon Numbers.
** Fate Testarossa is another super prototype in a way -- she was [[spoiler:the very first successful ArtificialHuman created by an illegal cloning project run by the master of the Numbers, Jail Scaglietti. She bears the project's original name, and is the prototype that Jail used to create all the other Artificial Mages of the setting]]. However, to her mother, Fate is a FlawedPrototype because [[spoiler:she was meant to be a clone of her dead daughter Alicia, but ended up gaining quirks of her own which royally pissed off mommy dearest.]]

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* One character from ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', [[spoiler:Subaru Nakajima]] is a self-admitted homage to ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars''. [[spoiler:It turns out that she]] is the prototype to the Number cyborgs, [[spoiler:as is her sister Ginga]], and while she's not technically stronger than the rest of them, and [[spoiler:so Number cyborgs, she does have an Inherent Skill that is her sister Ginga]].very effective against cyborgs. The special moves "borrowed" from such {{Super Robot|Genre}}s like ''Anime/GEARFighterDendoh'', ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'', ''Manga/CombattlerV'' and more make this homage especially apparent.
** It's not that [[spoiler:Subaru]] is stronger than the Numbers. She just happens to have a Inherent Skill which is very effective against cyborgs. Also [[spoiler:both sisters]] are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s compared to the GlassCannon Numbers.
** Fate Testarossa is another super prototype in a way -- she was [[spoiler:the very first successful ArtificialHuman created by an illegal cloning project run by the master of the Numbers, Jail Scaglietti. She bears the project's original name, and is the prototype that Jail used to create all the other Artificial Mages of the setting]]. However, to her mother, Fate is a FlawedPrototype because [[spoiler:she was meant to be a clone of her dead daughter Alicia, but ended up gaining quirks of her own own, which royally pissed off mommy dearest.]]



* [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaigar=]]] from ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'' -- [[spoiler: [=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFightGar=]]] are both based on its blueprints, but are significantly weaker, partialy due to [[spoiler:humans]] being unable to perfectly copy [[spoiler:alien]] design, partially on purpose, as some of original's weapons were modified to serve non-offensive purpose.

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* [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaigar=]]] from ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'' -- [[spoiler: [=GaoGaiGar=] ''Anime/GaoGaiGarFINAL'' is a zig-zagging example that ultimately plays this straight. [[spoiler:[=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFightGar=]]] are both based on its blueprints, the blueprints of [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]], but are significantly weaker, weaker; partialy due to [[spoiler:humans]] being unable to perfectly copy [[spoiler:alien]] design, and partially on purpose, as some of original's weapons were modified to serve non-offensive purpose.purpose. However, [[WordOfGod supplementary materials]] explain that [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=] would have actually performed ''worse'' against the earlier foes, since it was designed to combat the Sol Masters, while the later [=GaoGaiGar=] and [=GaoFighGar=] were purpose-built for taking on Zonders and the 31 Primevals]]. For all intents and purposes, however, [[spoiler:Genesic [=GaoGaiGar=]]] is a straight upgrade when it's acquired, since [[spoiler:the destruction of the Z-Master, and [[NoOntologicalInertia with it all Zonder metal]],]] has rendered the later models' advantages moot.
10th Aug '17 2:22:56 PM Warwolf
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** There's also some speculation that the Wing Zero may have '''''EATEN''''' one of the pilots who attempted to use it. Because despite the pilot being declared dead and the cockpit never opening after his death, they NeverFoundTheBody afterwards, which not only means the suit is dangerous to the mind of the pilots, it may have actually gotten a taste for [[ImaHumanitarian human flesh.]] The fact that Heero ''talks'' to Zero like it can actually communicate with him, and tells Zechs that both Zero and Epyon have "told" him things just makes the ZERO system itself NightmareFuel on several levels.

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** There's also some speculation that the Wing Zero may have '''''EATEN''''' one of the pilots who attempted to use it. Because despite the pilot being declared dead and the cockpit never opening after his death, death until Zechs captured it, they NeverFoundTheBody afterwards, which not only means the suit is dangerous to the mind of the pilots, it may have actually gotten a taste for [[ImaHumanitarian human flesh.]] The fact that Heero ''talks'' to Zero like it can actually communicate with him, and tells Zechs that both Zero and Epyon have "told" him things just makes the ZERO system itself NightmareFuel on several levels.
10th Aug '17 2:21:34 PM Warwolf
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** There's also some speculation that the Wing Zero may have '''''EATEN''''' one of the pilots who attempted to use it. Because despite the pilot being declared dead and the cockpit never opening after his death, they NeverFoundTheBody afterwards, which not only means the suit is dangerous to the mind of the pilots, it may have actually gotten a taste for [[ImaHumanitarian human flesh.]] The fact that Heero ''talks'' to Zero like it can actually communicate with him, and tells Zechs that both Zero and Epyon have "told" him things just makes the ZERO system itself NightmareFuel on several levels.
10th Aug '17 12:25:24 PM WillKeaton
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** This was further explained in the Expanded Universe, specifically the ''VideoGame/TIEFighter'' game. They had designed a model of Vader's TIE Advanced X1 that was intended for mass production, known as the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Avenger TIE Avenger]], but it and its successor, the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/D_Defender TIE Defender]], were shelved due to too many resources expended during internal civil war. Which was probably a good thing for the Rebels, seeing as how the Defender was widely considered to be the most advanced starfighter of its time.

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** This was further explained in the Expanded Universe, specifically the ''VideoGame/TIEFighter'' game. They had designed a different model of similar to Vader's TIE Advanced X1 that was intended for mass production, known as the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Avenger TIE Avenger]], Avenger,]] but it and its successor, the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/D_Defender TIE Defender]], Defender,]] were shelved due to too many resources expended during internal civil war. Which was probably a good thing for the Rebels, seeing as how the Defender was widely considered to be the most advanced starfighter of its time.
10th Aug '17 12:23:40 PM WillKeaton
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*** Extended even further, with it's BlackBox tech centered round it's GN Drives. To create a true GN drive, is a time and resource consuming and somewhat dangerous process, as in order to make a critical component, the Topological Defect Blanket, or TD Blanket for short[[note]]This component allows Gundams to harness the power of Topological Defects giving them nearly unlimited power supply, and produces the greenish/blue GN particles[[/note]], requires a dive into Jupiter's upper atmosphere to collect the materials needed. After 200 years of working in secret before publicly announcing their presence to the world, Celestial Being manged to produce a total of 5 GN Drives, and is indeed, considered more valuable than the Gundams themselves. It takes two years for Celestial Being after the events of the anime, and leading to the start of Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer, to make two brand new GN Drives specially designed for the new 00 Qan[T], and is remarked upon by several characters that was considered to be ''fast''. It takes another 50 years according at the end of the movie, for Earth as a whole to be able to start mass producing True GN Drives, and not the GN Tau Drives they've been using.

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*** Extended even further, with it's BlackBox tech centered round it's GN Drives. To create a true GN drive, is a time and resource consuming and somewhat dangerous process, as in order to make a critical component, the Topological Defect Blanket, or TD Blanket for short[[note]]This short,[[note]]This component allows Gundams to harness the power of Topological Defects giving them nearly unlimited power supply, and produces the greenish/blue GN particles[[/note]], particles.[[/note]] requires a dive into Jupiter's upper atmosphere to collect the materials needed. After 200 years of working in secret before publicly announcing their presence to the world, Celestial Being manged to produce a total of 5 GN Drives, and is indeed, considered more valuable than the Gundams themselves. It takes two years for Celestial Being after the events of the anime, and leading to the start of Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer, to make two brand new GN Drives specially designed for the new 00 Qan[T], and is remarked upon by several characters that was considered to be ''fast''. It takes another 50 years according at the end of the movie, for Earth as a whole to be able to start mass producing True GN Drives, and not the GN Tau Drives they've been using.
9th Aug '17 3:45:50 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In a way, [[spoiler:[[BiggerBad Madara Uchiha]]]] and [[GreenThumb Hashirama Senju]] are this compared to most ninja in the ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' universe. Due to living in an age of constant warfare, their abilities were brought to such a zenith that, as Kabuto Yakushi described, many people ''thought it was a fairy tale'', specifically Hashirama. We've seen characters like Yamato, Danzo, even [[spoiler: [[BigBad Tobi]]]] with Mokuton which doesn't remotely ''compare'' to Hashirama, and Sasuke and Itachi both achieved the same [[DeadlyUpgrade Mangekyo Sharingan]] powers as [[spoiler:Madara]], specifically the PoweredArmor, [[NighInvulnerability Made of Diamond]] [[InstantArmor Susnao'o]], but [[spoiler:Madara's Susano'o is on such a ''far higher scale'' than both ''combined'', Tsunade, one of the current Kages and one of the most powerful shinobi of her era, wondered ''how the fuck did her grandfather even fight Madara''?]]

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* In a way, [[spoiler:[[BiggerBad Madara Uchiha]]]] [[spoiler:Madara Uchiha]] and [[GreenThumb Hashirama Senju]] are this compared to most ninja in the ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' universe. Due to living in an age of constant warfare, their abilities were brought to such a zenith that, as Kabuto Yakushi described, many people ''thought it was a fairy tale'', specifically Hashirama. We've seen characters like Yamato, Danzo, even [[spoiler: [[BigBad Tobi]]]] with Mokuton which doesn't remotely ''compare'' to Hashirama, and Sasuke and Itachi both achieved the same [[DeadlyUpgrade Mangekyo Sharingan]] powers as [[spoiler:Madara]], specifically the PoweredArmor, [[NighInvulnerability Made of Diamond]] [[InstantArmor Susnao'o]], but [[spoiler:Madara's Susano'o is on such a ''far higher scale'' than both ''combined'', Tsunade, one of the current Kages and one of the most powerful shinobi of her era, wondered ''how the fuck did her grandfather even fight Madara''?]]
7th Aug '17 5:14:55 PM Malady
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* ''Website/{{Starwalker}}'': Starwalker was built to test a new drive system

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* ''Website/{{Starwalker}}'': ''Literature/{{Starwalker}}'': Starwalker was built to test a new drive systemsystem.
25th Jul '17 12:06:49 PM Divra
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* The Edelweiss in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'', made by Isara's father for Welkin's father for the previous war. It was found to be an incredible tank, but it was [[JustifiedTrope too expensive for any kind of mass production]].

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* The Edelweiss in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'', made by Isara's father for Welkin's father for the previous war. Unlike most super-prototypes.it was actually put forward to Gallian High Command. It was found to be an incredible tank, but it was [[JustifiedTrope too expensive for any kind of mass production]].
25th Jul '17 1:46:26 AM NoxSky12599
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* In ''Film/TheLastStarfighter'', Alex's Gunstar is stated to be an advanced prototype for the next model of Gunstars, featuring improvements in weapons, armor, and other experimental systems such as the [[BeamSpam Death]] [[MacrossMissileMassacre Blossom]]. Because it's still a work-in-progress, it's kept in a separate area of the base from the main hanger, [[spoiler:which is why it's the only Gunstar not destroyed in Xur's sneak attack which destroyed most of the Starfighters' base. Since it's the only Gunstar they've got left, they have no choice but to use it despite it being largely untested.]]
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