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3rd Mar '17 6:45:07 AM Jhonny
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* USS Lexington (CV-2) and her sister Saratoga had numerous features that many other aircraft carriers wouldn't see for decades to come. Most notably they featured an enclosed "hurricane" bow that reduced wind interference during flight operations. Another first was the placement of the smokestack directly behind the island, a feature that her successor, the Uss Ranger, didn't replicate. They also bolstered more flight deck space than any of America's other wartime carriers.

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* USS Lexington (CV-2) and her sister Saratoga had numerous features that many other aircraft carriers wouldn't see for decades to come. Most notably they featured an enclosed "hurricane" bow that reduced wind interference during flight operations. Another first was the placement of the smokestack directly behind the island, a feature that her successor, the Uss USS Ranger, didn't replicate. They also bolstered more flight deck space than any of America's other wartime carriers.
2nd Mar '17 9:40:49 PM Caps-luna
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* USS Lexington (CV-2) and her sister Saratoga had numerous features that many other aircraft carriers wouldn't see for decades to come. Most notably they featured an enclosed "hurricane" bow that reduced wind interference during flight operations. Another first was the placement of the smokestack directly behind the island, a feature that her successor, the Uss Ranger, didn't replicate. They also bolstered more flight deck space than any of America's other wartime carriers.
17th Feb '17 1:33:23 PM StFan
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* Subverted and defied in ''FanFic/AnEntryWithABang[=!=]'': The first GDI monitor is an unstable hodgepodge of Clancy-Earth and ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' uh, tech. The first prototype [=BearCat=] aerospace fighter is not mounting weapons. Both in-universe and at the writers' level, there has generally been agreement to take things slow and not do any funky stuff.

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* Subverted and defied in ''FanFic/AnEntryWithABang[=!=]'': The first GDI monitor is an unstable hodgepodge of Clancy-Earth and ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' ''TabletopGame/BattleTech''... uh, tech. The first prototype [=BearCat=] aerospace fighter is not mounting weapons. Both in-universe and at the writers' level, there has generally been agreement to take things slow and not do any funky stuff.



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* Steve's nearly-indestructible shield in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''. When he asks why it isn't standard issue for normal soldiers, Howard Stark says it's because the metal used to make it is too rare to produce more copies.
* Comicbook/TheFalcon's flying exo-suit in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is a military prototype. No reason is given for why the suits never saw mass production, but it's implied that the other users had all been killed during combat in the Middle East.
** It was also designed for Para-Rescue. Among the US's special forces units, Para-Rescue is among the most difficult to succeed in, on par with Seal Team 6, if not outright more difficult. Training is often nicknamed "Superhero School". Given that it would naturally have a low radar profile, it was probably meant to be a poor man's IronMan but was too costly verses to narrow in mission and has little to no body armor to protect the much more valuable man wearing it.

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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse:
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Steve's nearly-indestructible shield in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''. When he asks why it isn't standard issue for normal soldiers, Howard Stark says it's because the metal used to make it is too rare to produce more copies.
* ** Comicbook/TheFalcon's flying exo-suit in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is a military prototype. No reason is given for why the suits never saw mass production, but it's implied that the other users had all been killed during combat in the Middle East.
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East. It was also designed for Para-Rescue. Among the US's special forces units, Para-Rescue is among the most difficult to succeed in, on par with Seal Team 6, if not outright more difficult. Training is often nicknamed "Superhero School". Given that it would naturally have a low radar profile, it was probably meant to be a poor man's IronMan Iron Man but was too costly verses to too narrow in mission and has little to no little-to-no body armor to protect the much more valuable man wearing it.



* ''{{Film/Firefox}}'' has two of the titular planes, and centers on [[GrandTheftPrototype the theft of one of them]].

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* ''{{Film/Firefox}}'' ''Film/{{Firefox}}'' has two of the titular planes, and centers on [[GrandTheftPrototype the theft of one of them]].



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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': Compare how good Adam's performance is to Forrest's—though he purposely made Forrest "nearly as bad" as him.

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': Compare how good Adam's performance is to Forrest's—though Forrest's -- though he purposely made Forrest "nearly as bad" as him.



*** ''BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger'' has Abare Killer, whose powers are stronger than any of the others but comes with a ''slight drawback:'' Unlike the later Dino Braces, Abare Killer's Dino Minder will eventually explode with enough force to leave a smoldering crater where the city used to be.

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*** ''BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger'' ''Series/BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger'' has Abare Killer, whose powers are stronger than any of the others but comes with a ''slight drawback:'' Unlike the later Dino Braces, Abare Killer's Dino Minder will eventually explode with enough force to leave a smoldering crater where the city used to be.



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* The Brickspider Bot v1.0 of ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'' is the original prototype of the Brickster-Bot Spiders that would later be mass-produced by OGEL Robotics, Inc. In comparison with the later models, the v1.0 is far more intelligent and cunning with its own distinct personality. This was deliberately toned down for the later models by its creators when they realized that something so intelligent would not want to act as a mere {{Mook|s}}.
* The Saga Edition of StarWarsD20 featured a ship template called Advanced Prototype, which improved most of the stats of a base ship--but because it was a fine-tuned machine (again, more of a concept than an actual prototype), you would have to perform maintenance more regularly.
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* The Saga Edition of ''TabletopGame/StarWarsD20'' features a ship template called Advanced Prototype, which improved most of the stats of a base ship -- but because it is a fine-tuned machine (again, more of a concept than an actual prototype), you would have to perform maintenance more regularly.



* An interesting version of this is in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Gilgamesh has all the prototypes of every Servant's Noble Phantasm, and goes on to explain exactly why his prototypes are that much more powerful. However, this is subverted in Unlimited Blade Works when [[spoiler:Shiro "traces" or copies all of Gilgamesh's super prototypes with his Reality Marble, essentially creating a water-downed mass production type version of each one; right after explaining although his versions are weaker imitations, there is no rule about the imitations losing to the originals, he states that he will prove his imitations are superior by destroying all of Gilgamesh's weapons and Gilgamesh himself. Cue CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]]
** It gets a little complicated after this. Gilgamesh's versions are actually more powerful in a one to one contest, but the copies can be spammed via a combination of ZergRush and TakingYouWithMe: "breaking" one of the weapons unleashes a very powerful attack (at the obvious cost of sacrificing the weapon) but since ''unlimited copies can be made'' this weakness no longer applies to them.
* ''VideoGame/FrontMission 3'' has a couple interesting examples. In the start of the game your character is a test pilot for Kirishima Heavy Industries and your first mission is actually a final test run of a new prototype Wanzer for the Japanese Military. The Shunyo Mk. 111 is far more powerful than the test Wanzers you fight against. The true Super Prototype of the game, though, is the Hoshun. This is a Wanzer that [[spoiler:is somehow sent to you through the Internet]] and not only has more HP than any other pilotable Wanzer, but also has one of the only [[WaveMotionGun beam rifles]] in existence.

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* An interesting version of this is in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Gilgamesh has all the prototypes of every Servant's Noble Phantasm, and goes on to explain exactly why his prototypes are that much more powerful. However, this is subverted in Unlimited Blade Works when [[spoiler:Shiro "traces" or copies all of Gilgamesh's super prototypes with his Reality Marble, essentially creating a water-downed mass production type version of each one; right after explaining although his versions are weaker imitations, there is no rule about the imitations losing to the originals, he states that he will prove his imitations are superior by destroying all of Gilgamesh's weapons and Gilgamesh himself. Cue CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]]
** It gets a little complicated after this. Gilgamesh's versions are actually more powerful in a one to one contest, but the copies can be spammed via a combination of ZergRush and TakingYouWithMe: "breaking" one of the weapons unleashes a very powerful attack (at the obvious cost of sacrificing the weapon) but since ''unlimited copies can be made'' this weakness no longer applies to them.
* ''VideoGame/FrontMission 3'' has a couple interesting examples. examples.
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In the start of the game your character is a test pilot for Kirishima Heavy Industries and your first mission is actually a final test run of a new prototype Wanzer for the Japanese Military. The Shunyo Mk. 111 is far more powerful than the test Wanzers you fight against. against.
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The true Super Prototype of the game, though, is the Hoshun. This is a Wanzer that [[spoiler:is somehow sent to you through the Internet]] and not only has more HP than any other pilotable Wanzer, but also has one of the only [[WaveMotionGun beam rifles]] in existence.



* Prometheus, the last boss in ''{{VideoGame/Starsiege}}'' human campaign is the first [[AIisACrapshoot Cybrid]]. For the Cybrid campaign, you become one once you reach the highest rank.

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* Prometheus, the last boss in ''{{VideoGame/Starsiege}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Starsiege}}'' human campaign is the first [[AIisACrapshoot Cybrid]]. For the Cybrid campaign, you become one once you reach the highest rank.



* ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'' has this trope play on two examples. First is the Destroyer Robot, while the prototypes are still far inferior to {{Magitek}}-based Deus Machina, at least it can withstand some beating. The mass production model can be destroyed by Demonbane's ''head vulcan guns'' and one of them even got disabled by [[BattleButler Winfield]], who punched through its sensor camera, ''on foot''. The second examples are [[TomeOfEldritchLore various grimoire]], their original appear as [[TokenMiniMoe little girl]]s with magic power, the copies are just books.



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* An interesting version of this is in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Gilgamesh has all the prototypes of every Servant's Noble Phantasm, and goes on to explain exactly why his prototypes are that much more powerful. However, this is subverted in Unlimited Blade Works when [[spoiler:Shiro "traces" or copies all of Gilgamesh's super prototypes with his Reality Marble, essentially creating a water-downed mass production type version of each one; right after explaining although his versions are weaker imitations, there is no rule about the imitations losing to the originals, he states that he will prove his imitations are superior by destroying all of Gilgamesh's weapons and Gilgamesh himself. Cue CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]] It gets a little complicated after this. Gilgamesh's versions are actually more powerful in a one to one contest, but the copies can be spammed via a combination of ZergRush and TakingYouWithMe: "breaking" one of the weapons unleashes a very powerful attack (at the obvious cost of sacrificing the weapon) but since ''unlimited copies can be made'' this weakness no longer applies to them.
* ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'' has this trope play on two examples. First is the Destroyer Robot, while the prototypes are still far inferior to {{Magitek}}-based Deus Machina, at least it can withstand some beating. The mass production model can be destroyed by Demonbane's ''head vulcan guns'' and one of them even got disabled by [[BattleButler Winfield]], who punched through its sensor camera, ''on foot''. The second examples are [[TomeOfEldritchLore various grimoire]], their original appear as [[TokenMiniMoe little girl]]s with magic power, the copies are just books.
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* Averted in ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''. In Volume 2, Team RWBY battle a prototype of the Atlesian Paladin hijacked by Roman Torchwick. With a bit of difficulty, the girls triumph and wreck the machine. When Weiss boasts this to Winter in Volume 3, Winter dismisses this, stating that the actual production models wouldn't be so weak as to fall to a team of first year Hunters-in-training. Sure enough, when the Paladins are hijacked again by computer virus during the Battle of Beacon, two of them give Weiss, Nora, Ren and the entirety of Teams CFVY, FNKI, SSSN and BRNZ an incredibly hard time and it's only thanks to Ruby's victory on the lead Atlesian battlecruiser than spares them from a third.
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* ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' has a room full of them. Most notably, the first robot of the Seraph series, S1, looks much better than the more recent ones. And it has actual hands, rather than the simple claws of the later S models. The explanation given is that, since the original designer died, no one (not even the prototypes themselves) understands the cutting-edge technology underpinning them (for example, these robots have [[{{Magitek}} no visible power source, or motor, or means of moving their limbs]]). The robots were forced to simplify their designs just for future robot generations to survive.
** This trope is actually deconstructed in time. When one of the first generation robots is revived, he's impressed by the design of his descendants, because their simpler parts are more efficient and easier to repair.

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* ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'' has a room full of them. Most notably, the first robot of the Seraph series, S1, looks much better than the more recent ones. And it has actual hands, rather than the simple claws of the later S models. The explanation given is that, since the original designer died, no one (not even the prototypes themselves) understands the cutting-edge technology underpinning them (for example, these robots have [[{{Magitek}} no visible power source, or motor, or means of moving their limbs]]). The robots were forced to simplify their designs just for future robot generations to survive.
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survive. This trope is actually deconstructed in time. When one of the first generation robots is revived, he's impressed by the design of his descendants, because their simpler parts are more efficient and easier to repair.



* Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline has a prototype for an advanced Guardian Robot called the Gizoid.

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* Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline ''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline'' has a prototype for an advanced Guardian Robot called the Gizoid.



* The Brickspider Bot v1.0 of ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'' is the original prototype of the Brickster-Bot Spiders that would later be mass-produced by OGEL Robotics, Inc. In comparison with the later models, the v1.0 is far more intelligent and cunning with its own distinct personality. This was deliberately toned down for the later models by its creators when they realized that something so intelligent would not want to act as a mere {{Mook|s}}.



* Averted in ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''. In Volume 2, Team RWBY battle a prototype of the Atlesian Paladin hijacked by Roman Torchwick. With a bit of difficulty, the girls triumph and wreck the machine. When Weiss boasts this to Winter in Volume 3, Winter dismisses this, stating that the actual production models wouldn't be so weak as to fall to a team of first year Hunters-in-training. Sure enough, when the Paladins are hijacked again by computer virus during the Battle of Beacon, two of them give Weiss, Nora, Ren and the entirety of Teams CFVY, FNKI, SSSN and BRNZ an incredibly hard time and it's only thanks to Ruby's victory on the lead Atlesian battlecruiser than spares them from a third.



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3rd Feb '17 7:22:49 PM __Vano
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A question that often comes up is ''why'' the super prototype is so, well, ''super'' compared to the production model. The typical reason given is that the production model is far cheaper or easier to make in large numbers. Except that this defeats the whole purpose of a ''prototype'' - something built to test the capabilities of the final product and correct any flaws before mass production begins, meaning you want your test unit to be as similar to your production unit as possible. As such, real-life prototypes are frequently indistinguishable from standard models. Mostly, this is just a case of letting TheHero be [[RuleOfCool that much more awesome]].

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A question that often comes up is ''why'' the super prototype is so, well, ''super'' compared to the production model. The typical reason given is that the production model is far cheaper or easier to make in large numbers. Except that this defeats the whole purpose of a ''prototype'' - something built to test the capabilities of the final product and correct any flaws before mass production begins, meaning you want your test unit to be as similar to your production unit as possible. As such, real-life prototypes are frequently indistinguishable from standard models. Mostly, this is just a case of letting TheHero be [[RuleOfCool [[UniquenessValue that much more awesome]].
awesome than everyone else]].
23rd Jan '17 9:41:37 AM PrimeEvil
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* ''Film/InspectorGadget'' and his EvilTwin [=RoboGadget=] are these. Gadget himself doesn't become a FlawedPrototype until the sequel.
20th Jan '17 8:31:53 AM hszmv1
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** It was also designed for Para-Rescue. Among the US's special forces units, Para-Rescue is among the most difficult to succeed in, on par with Seal Team 6, if not outright more difficult. Training is often nicknamed "Superhero School". Given that it would naturally have a low radar profile, it was probably meant to be a poor man's IronMan but was too costly verses to narrow in mission and has little to no body armor to protect the much more valuable man wearing it.
28th Nov '16 4:06:34 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'' has the World Government-developed Pacifistas. The original, created by [[WeCanRebuildHim rebuilding]] BadAss Bartholemew Kuma into a {{Cyborg}}, is able to make short work of some later models, though this is mostly because Kuma had Devil Fruit powers that apparently couldn't be transferred to the others or technologically duplicated. [[spoiler:It is stated that more powerful models have been created over the TimeSkip, though it has not yet been shown how well Kuma would stack up against them.]]

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'' has the World Government-developed Pacifistas. The original, created by [[WeCanRebuildHim rebuilding]] BadAss Bartholemew Kuma into a {{Cyborg}}, is able to make short work of some later models, though this is mostly because Kuma had Devil Fruit powers that apparently couldn't be transferred to the others or technologically duplicated. [[spoiler:It is stated that more powerful models have been created over the TimeSkip, though it has not yet been shown how well Kuma would stack up against them.]]
21st Nov '16 5:21:48 PM fdsa1234567890
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' features a prototype of the B-Wing starfighter from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. It has a powerful superlaser cannon that can take out a cruiser in one or two shots, but has several power issues that readily explain why the ones we see in the film don't.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' features a prototype of the B-Wing starfighter from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. It has a powerful superlaser cannon that can take out a cruiser in one or two shots, but has several power issues that readily explain why the ones we see in the film don't. The film version also has a large magazine of proton torpedoes as well, which allows a different form of heavy firepower.
17th Nov '16 6:07:45 PM Mythsearcher
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*** And the Gundam Mk-II actually inverts this - even though it was a Super Prototype and, for awhile, could one-up the Titans' Hi-Zack units, there was nothing special about it outside of its special lighter frame system and it's easily outclassed early on. All it really is is an updated copy of the original RX-78 Gundam made using modern technologies.
*** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' has a similar inversion with the Gundam [=GP01=] "Zephyrantes", which was little more than an update to the original Gundam with new tech. In fact, the proposed Gundam [=GP04=] "Gerbera" was scrapped for being little more than a copy of the [=GP01=]; it was later reworked into a more Zeon-esque design, the Gerbera Tetra, and [[PlayingBothSides sold to the Zeon remnants]].

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*** And the Gundam Mk-II actually inverts this - even though it was a Super Prototype for the next generation of MS and, for awhile, could one-up the Titans' Hi-Zack units, units(current generation), there was nothing special about it outside of its special lighter frame system and it's easily outclassed early on. All it really is is an updated copy of the original RX-78 Gundam made using modern technologies.
*** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' has a similar inversion with the Gundam [=GP01=] "Zephyrantes", which was little more than an update to the original Gundam with new tech.tech, it comes with the ground type and space type configuration, which is more powerful than the mass production model of the time at its specialized area but weaker when placed in the other, so it is just an exchange of spec instead of "Super" in all aspects. In fact, the proposed Gundam [=GP04=] "Gerbera" was scrapped for being little more than a copy of the [=GP01=]; it was later reworked into a more Zeon-esque design, the Gerbera Tetra, and [[PlayingBothSides sold to the Zeon remnants]].



*** The MSN-00100 Hyaku Shiki from the aforementioned ''Zeta Gundam'' was designed to test out beam-resistant armor and the concept of the [[TransformingMecha Variable Frame]]. The beam-resistant armor worked. The transformation feature did not.

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*** The MSN-00100 Hyaku Shiki from the aforementioned ''Zeta Gundam'' was designed to test out beam-resistant armor and the concept of the [[TransformingMecha Variable Moveable Frame]]. The beam-resistant armor worked. The transformation feature did not. But the moveable wing binders left on the unit did improve the mobility of it.



** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamF91'''s eponymous Mobile Suit (the Formula 91) plays with this; its prequel manga features the F91's predecessor (the [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/F90_Gundam_F90 Formula 90]]), of which two were made. The F90s sported multiple hardpoints all over their chassis which [[MechaExpansionPack could be outfitted with different equipment]], resulting in eight specialized configurations (though mixing and matching these components could result in up to 26 different configurations). S.N.R.I. (the company responsible for the Formula Project) then used the combat data from each configuration and built the F91 using optimized versions of the most effective and well-rounded F90 variant (namely the [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/F90V_Gundam_F90_VSBR_Type F90V]]). The F91 was later subject to limited mass production, though no changes were made to the mass produced units from the original F91. So in essence the F91 is only a super prototype in regards to the previous Formula Gundam, with its mass-produced equivalents being carbon copies.

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** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamF91'''s eponymous Mobile Suit (the Formula 91) plays with this; its prequel manga features the F91's predecessor (the [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/F90_Gundam_F90 Formula 90]]), of which two were made. The F90s sported multiple hardpoints all over their chassis which [[MechaExpansionPack could be outfitted with different equipment]], resulting in eight specialized configurations (though mixing (later model line and matching these components could result in settings expanded the equipments up to 26 different configurations).packs). S.N.R.I. (the company responsible for the Formula Project) then used the combat data from each configuration and built the F91 using optimized versions of the most effective and well-rounded F90 variant (namely the [[http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/F90V_Gundam_F90_VSBR_Type F90V]]). The F91 was later subject to limited mass production, though no changes were made to the mass produced units from the original F91. So in essence the F91 is only a super prototype in regards to the previous Formula Gundam, with its mass-produced equivalents being almost carbon copies.copies, with the exception of the locked overdrive mode of its Bio-computer which over-heats the unit(but gives it a short performance boost) and fixed the paint shredding flaw(which gave the prototype a strange ability of splitting into mutiple images in the enemy screen).


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* Military models of the less technically advance countries often has this. The prototype is often handcrafted by engineers and scientist with their newest tools, has high precision and thus better performance. The factory settings are different, without all the precision tools and workers that are more torlerance to precision, thus rendering the mass production lines splitting out worse parts and therefore worse units. Usually this is offset by quality control, but in the midst of war, that will be much weakened. An example is the A6M Type Zero, the WWII Japanese fighter. Without sufficient factories to meet war needs(a lot of them bombed down by the US), they have high school or even junior high girls building them. A lot of parts are unusable, the 20mm cannons simply can't shoot, some of them barely flyable and will desemble mid air when doing a dive attack(which is a common tactics in WWII).
17th Nov '16 7:04:09 AM tigerstar
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* It's fairly common for the prototype versions of {{Pinball}} machines to have features that get stripped out for the actual production run, usually for cost or technical reasons. Enthusiasts today sometimes produce kits to restore the lost features. Some notable examples include:
** The "Boogie Man" slingshots on ''Pinball/ScaredStiff''. The rubber figures on the slingshot bumpers were supposed to jolt each time the kicker fired, but it was found this would eventually cause the Boogie Men's arms to fly off, so they became fixed in place on the production versions; replacement kicker arms are available that make them mobile again.
** The chime bars in ''Pinball/TheWhosTommy''. The theme was meant to evoke early electromechanical pinball machines which used metal chimes to produce their sounds. The prototypes had three chime bars, but these were removed in the production cabinets and electronic sounds were substituted. Some owners have retrofitted chime units from other games.
** The Deadworld area in ''Pinball/JudgeDredd'' was supposed to lock balls for multiball, but it was found to be unreliable. Custom kits exist to restore that feature.
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