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18th Jul '17 11:22:21 AM Prometheus117
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* An interesting version of this is in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Gilgamesh has all the prototypes of every Servant's Noble Phantasm, and goes on to explain exactly why his prototypes are that much more powerful. However, this is subverted in Unlimited Blade Works when [[spoiler:Shiro "traces" or copies all of Gilgamesh's super prototypes with his Reality Marble, essentially creating a water-downed mass production type version of each one; right after explaining although his versions are weaker imitations, there is no rule about the imitations losing to the originals, he states that he will prove his imitations are superior by destroying all of Gilgamesh's weapons and Gilgamesh himself. Cue CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]] It gets a little complicated after this. Gilgamesh's versions are actually more powerful in a one to one contest, but the copies can be spammed via a combination of ZergRush and TakingYouWithMe: "breaking" one of the weapons unleashes a very powerful attack (at the obvious cost of sacrificing the weapon) but since ''unlimited copies can be made'' this weakness no longer applies to them.

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* An interesting version of this is in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Gilgamesh has almost all the prototypes of every Servant's Noble Phantasm, Phantasm (exceptions include Berserker's [[BackFromTheDead God Hand]] and Saber's [[spoiler:Avalon]]), and goes on to explain exactly why his prototypes are that much more powerful. However, this is subverted in Unlimited Blade Works when [[spoiler:Shiro "traces" or copies all of Gilgamesh's super prototypes with his Reality Marble, essentially creating a water-downed mass production type version of each one; right after explaining although his versions are weaker imitations, there is no rule about the imitations losing to the originals, he states that he will prove his imitations are superior by destroying all of Gilgamesh's weapons and Gilgamesh himself. Cue CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]] It gets a little complicated after this. Gilgamesh's versions are actually more powerful in a one to one contest, but the copies can be spammed via a combination of ZergRush and TakingYouWithMe: "breaking" one of the weapons unleashes a very powerful attack (at the obvious cost of sacrificing the weapon) but since ''unlimited copies can be made'' this weakness no longer applies to them.
11th Jul '17 7:59:47 PM Caps-luna
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* The MG 34 was the predecessor to the famous Mg42 [[note]]Not exactly a prototype but close enough in spirit[[/note]]. The MG 34 featured both a sturdier construction than its successor and was capable of sustaining a higher rate of fire. It also had a innovative crescent double trigger that allows the user to change between firing semi and full auto without the need of a selector switch. The 34 was to expensive and time intensive to manufacture so Germany designed the easy to manufacture 42 to take its place.
7th Jul '17 12:57:58 PM VulgarBee
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* [[CelestialParagonsAndArchangels Archangels]] in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' were the first four angels created and much more powerful than their younger siblings. [[spoiler: God eventually reveals this is because the Archangels were created using primordial power that takes a long time for him to make, meaning it takes him a lot longer to make an Archangel than the normal angels. This was problematic when the second fight with the Darkness happened, as by then, Lucifer was the only Archangel in fighting shape and resurrecting Raphael or Gabriel or making a new Archangel would've taken more time than they had]].
5th Jul '17 6:36:15 PM MBG159
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* ''ComicBook/TheBoys'' goes for the "SuperSerum's original creator was kidnapped/killed" variant of this. Consequently, the most powerful heroes in the setting were all created by Vogelbaum, the scientist in question, with [[StupidJetpackHitler former Hitler Youth member Stormfront]] being the prototype for the serum and a FlyingBrick stronger than the vast majority of characters. Everyone else gets their powers from the SuperSerum having contaminated the environment (as the company found it cheaper than paying billions of dollars for every hero), causing random mutations that almost never stack up to the AceCustom nature of the original generation.
4th Jul '17 4:57:53 AM Grudgeal
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* Used and somewhat justified in ''VideoGame/AtlasReactor'': [[RobotDog PuP]] and [[WeCanRebuildHim Blackburn]] are both prototypes of their respective product line, but both [[AceCustom have been subsequently modified beyond their original product specifications]]. In [=PuP=]'s case it's also reinforced [[LastOfHisKind by his remaining product line being destroyed by the AI ban]]; [=PuP=] surviving only because he was the FlawedPrototype at the time.

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* Used and somewhat justified in ''VideoGame/AtlasReactor'': In ''VideoGame/AtlasReactor'' [[RobotDog PuP]] and [[WeCanRebuildHim Blackburn]] are both prototypes of their respective product line, but line and superior to said product line. In both cases it's because they were [[AceCustom have been subsequently modified beyond their original product specifications]]. In specifications]] and not because they were designed that way. [=PuP=]'s case it's is also reinforced [[LastOfHisKind by his remaining product line being destroyed by the AI ban]]; [=PuP=] surviving only because he was the FlawedPrototype at the time.
4th Jul '17 4:56:20 AM Grudgeal
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* Used and somewhat justified in ''VideoGame/AtlasReactor'': [[RobotDog PuP]] and [[WeCanRebuildHim Blackburn]] are both prototypes of their respective product line, but both [[AceCustom have been subsequently modified beyond their original product specifications]]. In [=PuP=]'s case it's also reinforced [[LastOfHisKind by his remaining product line being destroyed by the AI ban]]; [=PuP=] surviving only because he was the FlawedPrototype at the time.
1st Jul '17 2:44:01 PM MBG
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** Toys in general tend to go through this, as the prototypes that eventually get used as the basis for the production molds are handmade and consequently tend to feature better paint jobs and sharper details than the finished versions. This is especially common in ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'', due to the complex engineering involved and the somewhat inconsistent budgets - for instance, compare the [[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/b/b3/Leobreakerearly.jpg prototype claw mode]] of Leobreaker to that of the [[http://www.unicron.us/tf2005/toypix/leobreaker3b.jpg retail release]]. This overlaps with FlawedPrototype, however, as they're made of resin and therefore quite fragile.
26th Jun '17 10:18:42 PM Kuruni
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* [[BigBad Makuta]] [[MadScientist Teridax]] from ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' seemed to have a habit of creating prototypes that were much stronger than the mass-produced versions that'd come later, though in his case that was usually because his creations [[AmbitionIsEvil tended to be too intelligent or ambitious to serve his goals]], so he'd scale them back in power and intelligence to ensure they wouldn't become a threat. Also, he made them with [[YourDaysAreNumbered limited lifespans]] to ensure they wouldn't remain a thorn in his side for too long even if he didn't bother with killing them.

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[[BigBad Makuta]] [[MadScientist Teridax]] from ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' seemed to have a habit of creating prototypes that were much stronger than the mass-produced versions that'd come later, though in his case that was usually because his creations [[AmbitionIsEvil tended to be too intelligent or ambitious to serve his goals]], so he'd scale them back in power and intelligence to ensure they wouldn't become a threat. Also, he made them with [[YourDaysAreNumbered limited lifespans]] to ensure they wouldn't remain a thorn in his side for too long even if he didn't bother with killing them.



* ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'' has this trope play on two examples. First is the Destroyer Robot, while the prototypes are still far inferior to {{Magitek}}-based Deus Machina, at least it can withstand some beating. The mass production model can be destroyed by Demonbane's ''head vulcan guns'' and one of them even got disabled by [[BattleButler Winfield]], who punched through its sensor camera, ''on foot''. The second examples are [[TomeOfEldritchLore various grimoire]], their original appear as [[TokenMiniMoe little girl]]s with magic power, the copies are just books.

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* ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'' has this trope play on two examples. examples.
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First is the Destroyer Robot, while the prototypes are still far inferior to {{Magitek}}-based Deus Machina, at least it can withstand some beating. The mass production model can be destroyed by Demonbane's ''head vulcan guns'' and one of them even got disabled by [[BattleButler Winfield]], who punched through its sensor camera, ''on foot''. foot''.
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The second examples are [[TomeOfEldritchLore various grimoire]], their original appear as [[TokenMiniMoe little girl]]s with magic power, the copies are just books.
26th Jun '17 9:54:31 AM Prometheus117
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* [[BigBad Makuta]] [[MadScientist Teridax]] from ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' seemed to have a habit of creating prototypes that were much stronger than the mass-produced versions that'd come later, though in his case that was usually because his creations [[AmbitionIsEvil tended to be too intelligent or ambitious to serve his goals]], so he'd scale them back in power and intelligence to ensure they wouldn't become a threat. Also, he made them with [[YourDaysAreNumbered limited lifespans]] to ensure they wouldn't remain a thorn in his side for too long even if he didn't bother with killing them.
** One of Makuta's creations, the [[FantasticFlora Karzahni]], was this to its successor, the Morbuzakh. It had all the Morbuzakh's abilities (incredible strength, complete control of its vegetation, capable of intelligent thought and speaking), plus it lacked the need to feed off of fire and heat (since it survived just fine in the sun-less darkness of the tunnels between Metru Nui and Mata Nui) and possessed immunity to ice and cold (casually shattering a layer of ice over its form that would have crippled its successor for a time). However, it was far too ambitious and intelligent to be content with Makuta's plans for it and rebelled, so he banished it and made the Morbuzakh with the mentioned flaws (plus being less intelligent) so it would serve him alone. The Karzahni [[{{Revenge}} did not like that in the slightest and started planning Teridax's downfall and death]].
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22nd Jun '17 9:47:20 AM BattleMaster
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** There ''were'' a number of prototypes in the Jihad era that are incredibly effective, and mount a number of high end "experimental" technologies that usually only show up on or two at a time on production models, at least until the Dark Age era, 70 years later. Due to the game's Battle Value system most of these units end up being wildly overpriced, but in a straight ton-for-ton comparison these prototypes are frequently more than a match for anything in full-scale production.

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** There ''were'' a number of prototypes in the Jihad era that are incredibly effective, and mount a number of high end "experimental" technologies that usually only show up on or two at a time on production models, at least until models. When production versions of the Dark Age era, 70 years later. Due designs were printed, they largely tended to be less powerful due to having reduced advanced/experimental tech on them for the game's Battle Value system most reason that either it was decided that it wasn't necessary for their intended roles so reducing the advanced tech on them made them cheaper, or the specific bit of these units end up being wildly overpriced, but tech was considered too difficult to keep working in a straight ton-for-ton comparison these prototypes are frequently the field and so [[BoringButPractical older and more than a match for anything in full-scale production.reliable equipment]] was used instead.
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