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16th Oct '17 9:55:05 AM Steven
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** The director of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' wants his players to avoid the trope by encouraging them to take a break if they feel burned out or aren't enjoying the game like they used to rather than forcing themselves to play just because they already invested a lot of time in the game.


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* Working at a crummy job for so long can be this for many. Even if there are little or no benefits, the hours being lousy, and the pay being awful, some people would rather stick with that job instead of quitting since getting another job can be difficult and not working means not making any money.
7th Oct '17 2:38:02 PM Edvardelis
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** It stands to note that when the front office changes, the new people don't have the history signing the player and as such are much more likely to attempt to get out of the contract if at all possible.
24th Sep '17 4:02:20 PM Andyroid
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* Reacher Gilt's scam in ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' relies heavily on this. Even as the service on the Grand Trunk semaphore line gets worse and worse, he sweet-talks investors and board-members into "throwing good money after bad" while pocketing most of it and covering it up with tricky accounting and corporate buzzwords like "embracing diversity" and "synergistically". [[BoxedCrook Not-quite-reformed con artist]] Moist von Lipwig is equal parts impressed and [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted]] when he realizes what Gilt is up to.

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* Reacher Gilt's scam in ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' relies heavily on this. Even as the service on the Grand Trunk semaphore line gets worse and worse, he sweet-talks investors and board-members into "throwing good money after bad" while pocketing most of it and covering it up with tricky accounting and corporate buzzwords like "embracing diversity" and "synergistically". [[BoxedCrook Not-quite-reformed con artist]] Moist von Lipwig is equal parts impressed and [[EvenEvilHasStandards [[EveryoneHasStandards disgusted]] when he realizes what Gilt is up to.
15th Sep '17 4:22:47 AM Gowan
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* How many people (probably even some reading this very page) have been (or currently are) in a relationship that they ''know'' is [[TheMasochismTango unhappy, unhealthy, and/or isn't going anywhere]], but decide to stay because they've known their partner for so long and can't imagine life without them? This especially applies to abusive relationships, as the abuse victim has poured a lot of energy into trying to [[LoveRedeems change]] the abuser, and effort they think will be wasted if they leave.

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* How many people (probably even some reading this very page) have been (or currently are) in a relationship that they ''know'' is [[TheMasochismTango unhappy, unhealthy, and/or isn't going anywhere]], but decide to stay because they've known their partner for so long and can't imagine life without them? This especially applies to abusive relationships, as the abuse victim has poured a lot of energy into trying to [[LoveRedeems change]] the abuser, and an effort they think will be wasted if they leave.
15th Sep '17 4:18:56 AM Gowan
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* Within sociology, the combination of this and the MadonnaWhoreComplex often leads to girls feeling resigned to becoming sexually promiscuous after having had sex once. After all, they can only lose their virginity once and what does it matter after that?

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* Within sociology, the combination of this and the MadonnaWhoreComplex often leads to girls feeling resigned to becoming sexually promiscuous after having had sex once. After all, they can only lose their virginity once and what does it matter after that?that? Good sex ed would help prevent that, as the risk of catching an STD or having to deal with unwanted pregnancy increases with each sexual encounter.



* How many people (probably even some reading this very page) have been (or currently are) in a relationship that they ''know'' is [[TheMasochismTango unhappy, unhealthy, and/or isn't going anywhere]], but decide to stay because they've known their partner for so long and can't imagine life without them?

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* How many people (probably even some reading this very page) have been (or currently are) in a relationship that they ''know'' is [[TheMasochismTango unhappy, unhealthy, and/or isn't going anywhere]], but decide to stay because they've known their partner for so long and can't imagine life without them? This especially applies to abusive relationships, as the abuse victim has poured a lot of energy into trying to [[LoveRedeems change]] the abuser, and effort they think will be wasted if they leave.



* An "ideal" option that is not economically viable in your particular situation is just that: not viable, and, therefore, should not factor into the equation. Going back to the car example, stringing by on ad-hoc repairs may ''be'' the only viable alternative if the owner ''just doesn't have'' the money to buy a new car or the credit to get a loan that would cost less than the repair costs for the period of that loan (or if other means of getting around, e.g. public transportation, biking, or walking, are also not on the table). Previous repair costs ''are'' sunk, but it's also no use in bemoaning what you ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen could have]]'' afforded if you hadn't paid for those; all that matters is what you can afford ''now''.

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* An "ideal" option that is not economically viable in your particular situation is just that: not viable, and, therefore, should not factor into the equation. Going back to the car example, stringing by on ad-hoc repairs may ''be'' the only viable alternative if the owner ''just doesn't have'' the money to buy a new car or the credit to get a loan that would cost less than the repair costs for the period of that loan (or if other means of getting around, e.g. public transportation, biking, or walking, are also not on the table). Previous repair costs ''are'' sunk, but it's also no use in bemoaning what you ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen could have]]'' afforded if you hadn't paid for those; all that matters is what you can afford ''now''.''now''.
* Repairing something when buying new would cost less can be a conscious decision to save resources and avoid waste.
6th Apr '17 11:59:00 AM PianoMurderer
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* In the Fanfic/TriptychContinuum, this is the central reason the Crusade continues: the Cutie Mark Crusaders have become fanatics in the name of their cause, and to stop would invalidate everything which had come before -- including all the accidents, disaster relief forms, reparations, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tree sap]]. The Fallacy itself winds up being summarized in a speech by [[spoiler: Apple Bloom]], and the voicing of it is part of what finally [[spoiler:[[Recap/TriptychContinuumUnstableSale breaks the Crusade]]]].

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* In the Fanfic/TriptychContinuum, this is the central reason the Crusade continues: the Cutie Mark Crusaders have essentially become fanatics in the name of their cause, and to stop would invalidate everything which had come before -- including all the accidents, disaster relief forms, reparations, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tree sap]]. The Fallacy itself winds up being summarized in a speech by [[spoiler: Apple Bloom]], and the voicing of it is part of what finally [[spoiler:[[Recap/TriptychContinuumUnstableSale breaks the Crusade]]]].
6th Apr '17 11:57:48 AM PianoMurderer
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* In the Fanfic/TriptychContinuum, this is the central reason the Crusade continues: the Cutie Mark Crusaders have become fanatics in the name of their cause, and to stop would invalidate everything which had come before -- including all the accidents, disaster relief forms, reparations, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tree sap]]. The Fallacy itself winds up being summed up in a speech by [[spoiler: Apple Bloom]], and the voicing of it is part of what finally [[spoiler:[[Recap/TriptychContinuumUnstableSale breaks the Crusade]]]].

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* In the Fanfic/TriptychContinuum, this is the central reason the Crusade continues: the Cutie Mark Crusaders have become fanatics in the name of their cause, and to stop would invalidate everything which had come before -- including all the accidents, disaster relief forms, reparations, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tree sap]]. The Fallacy itself winds up being summed up summarized in a speech by [[spoiler: Apple Bloom]], and the voicing of it is part of what finally [[spoiler:[[Recap/TriptychContinuumUnstableSale breaks the Crusade]]]].
6th Apr '17 11:56:31 AM PianoMurderer
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* In the Fanfic/TriptychContinuum, this is the central reason the Crusade continues: the Cutie Mark Crusaders have become fanatics in the name of their cause, and to stop would invalidate everything which had come before -- including all the accidents, disaster relief forms, reparations, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tree sap]]. The Fallacy itself winds up being summed up in a speech by [[spoiler: Apple Bloom]], and the voicing of it is part of what finally [[spoiler:[[Recap/TriptychContinuumUnstableSale breaks the Crusade]]]].
--> [[spoiler: "Gotta do it for a day because y'try," she slowly said. "Then y'go for a week 'cause iffin y'don't, y'wasted the day. Then it's a moon, lots of moons, and then when it's a year, it's gotta be more. We keep goin' an' goin' 'cause if we ever ''stop'', then it means we wasted ''everything''. An' we could just keep goin' til we're grown up, out of school, but we won't have jobs because we don't have ''marks'' and the only thing we can do is look some more. It's nearly three years an' if Ah do it for one more day, it could turn into... It's too much, an' Ah think -- it's been too much for a while. Too ''long''. An' -- an' it ain't worth it no more."]]
3rd Apr '17 6:50:15 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* At the end of a "No Mercy" run (i.e. a [[spoiler:"[[KillEmAll kill everyone in the game]] including and especially major characters"]] run) of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', the FinalBoss points out that you're pressing forward with [[spoiler:your murdering spree]] not out of any sort of "good" or "evil" desire, but simply because you ''can'', and because you can, you feel like you ''have to'', even though there's no real benefit to persevering at this point. They also gladly point out that the best thing to do at this point is to seriously give up and do ''literally anything else.'' [[spoiler:Because really, [[PyrrhicVictory what do you personally have to gain from not only massacring the entire underground but then also destroying the entire world]]?]]

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* At the end of a "No Mercy" run (i.e. a [[spoiler:"[[KillEmAll kill everyone in the game]] including and especially major characters"]] run) of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', the FinalBoss points out that you're pressing forward with [[spoiler:your murdering spree]] not out of any sort of "good" or "evil" desire, but simply because you ''can'', and because you can, you feel like you ''have to'', even though there's no real benefit to persevering at this point. They also gladly point out that the best thing to do at this point is to seriously give up and do ''literally anything else.'' [[spoiler:Because really, [[PyrrhicVictory what do you personally have to gain from not only massacring the entire underground but then also destroying the entire world]]?]]world and selling your soul to reset the game at the cost of ruining all future good endings]]?]]
3rd Apr '17 6:40:47 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* At the end of a "No Mercy" run (i.e. a [[spoiler:"[[KillEmAll kill everyone in the game]] including and especially major characters"]] run) of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', the FinalBoss points out that you're pressing forward with [[spoiler:your murdering spree]] not out of any sort of "good" or "evil" desire, but simply because you ''can'', and because you can, you feel like you ''have to'', even though there's no real benefit to persevering at this point. [[spoiler:Because really, [[PyrrhicVictory what do you personally have to gain from not only massacring the entire underground but then also destroying THE ENTIRE WORLD]]?]]

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* At the end of a "No Mercy" run (i.e. a [[spoiler:"[[KillEmAll kill everyone in the game]] including and especially major characters"]] run) of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', the FinalBoss points out that you're pressing forward with [[spoiler:your murdering spree]] not out of any sort of "good" or "evil" desire, but simply because you ''can'', and because you can, you feel like you ''have to'', even though there's no real benefit to persevering at this point. They also gladly point out that the best thing to do at this point is to seriously give up and do ''literally anything else.'' [[spoiler:Because really, [[PyrrhicVictory what do you personally have to gain from not only massacring the entire underground but then also destroying THE ENTIRE WORLD]]?]]the entire world]]?]]
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