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4th Aug '16 10:57:09 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'', [[TheBerserker Lu Bu]] is usually portrayed as being like this and scoffing at any sort of strategy. His raw brute power simply makes it unnecessary, and many of his enemies are taken by surprise at how completely lacking in thought his attacks can be. Likewise, [[UpperClassTwit Yuan Shao's]] massive armies and [[InfiniteSupplies vast resources]] have him dismiss the idea that strategy is even necessary, since he can simply [[ZergRush steam]][[WeHaveReserves roll]] over his enemies.
** It should be pointed out that while both Lu Bu and Yuan Shao are major threats, once they go up against someone who actually knows what he's doing and is aware of their weaknesses (like, say, [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]), the strategies they dismiss wind up causing their downfall. To be exact, Cao Cao starves Lu Bu's forces into submission ([[WizardNeedsFoodBadly because even the mightiest warrior needs to eat]]) before executing Lu Bu himself, and devastates Yuan Shao's massive army with surgical strikes before destroying their main supply depot and sending the Yuan army reeling in defeat.

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* In ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'', [[TheBerserker Lu Bu]] is usually portrayed as being like this and scoffing at any sort of strategy. His raw brute power simply makes it unnecessary, and many of his enemies are taken by surprise at how completely lacking in thought his attacks can be. Likewise, [[UpperClassTwit Yuan Shao's]] massive armies and [[InfiniteSupplies vast resources]] have him dismiss the idea that strategy is even necessary, since he can simply [[ZergRush steam]][[WeHaveReserves roll]] over his enemies.
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** It should be pointed out that while both Lu Bu and Yuan Shao are major threats, once they go up against someone who actually knows what he's doing and is aware of their weaknesses (like, say, [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]), the strategies they dismiss wind up causing their downfall. To be exact, Cao Cao starves Lu Bu's forces into submission ([[WizardNeedsFoodBadly because even the mightiest warrior needs to eat]]) before executing Lu Bu himself, and devastates Yuan Shao's massive army with surgical strikes before destroying their main supply depot and sending the Yuan army reeling in defeat.



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15th Jul '16 12:14:03 AM harharhar
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** Some cards have randomness determining their effects (most often coin flips) which can really mess up the enemy or even the player who played it. [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=44656 Goblin assassin]] has a 50% chance of forcing EITHER player to sacrifice a creature any time it or another goblin is played.



* In {{Fighting Game}}s a novice player who resorts to random ButtonMashing can sometimes score wins against more experienced players.

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* In {{Fighting Game}}s a novice player who resorts to random ButtonMashing can sometimes score wins against more It's this basic principle that occasionally lets inexperienced {{button mash|ing}}ers beat experienced players.players in fighting games (and other games) at least a few times. Skilled players and the AI are generally predictable, but it can be tricky fighting a flailing foe whose moves are often the ''worst'' in a normal situation.



** There are also the modern pentathaletes. Fencing matches are generally to 5 or 10 hits whereas fencing in the modern pentathalon uses one-hit. Even if predictable in the long run, as long as they are unorthodox enough to get the first hit, they win.




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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Richard Maurice "Rocket" Richard]] was once asked in an interview how he planned his shots on goal. He answered along the lines of "If ''I'' don't know what shot I'm going to make, how will the goalie?"
29th May '16 11:18:14 PM Adeon
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* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', the White Tower's weapons master tells Galad, Gawyn, and Mat a story about history's greatest swordsman, who was only defeated once in his entire life -- by a random farmer with a quarterstaff.
12th May '16 3:38:54 PM LentilSandEater
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** Although given that Mat had just used a quarterstaff to thump two experienced sword-fighters, the implication was that the story was less about the farmer's incompetence and more a warning that an ImprobableWeaponUser can be just as deadly as a swordsman.
** This is also TruthInTelevision; pole weapons, such as staves, spears, halberds, naginata, glaives, ect. are superior personal weapons to swords due to their offensive and defensive capabilities, as well as their reach and the ability to attack with either end of them. There's a reason why they were such popular weapons historically for infantry.
31st Mar '16 2:11:31 AM WM-R
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* In ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'', IdiotHero Takuya fights all his battles this way, trusting in hot-bloodedness and determination to see him through. When finally confronted with an enemy so far above his level nothing he does works, he suffers a HeroicBSOD and has to be dragged away by his friends.



** It should be pointed out that while both Lu Bu and Yuan Shao are major threats, once they go up against someone who actually knows what he's doing and is aware of their weaknesses (like, say, [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]), the strategies they dismiss wind up causing their downfall. To be exact, Cao Cao starves Lu Bu's forces into submission (WizardNeedsFoodBadly because even the mightiest warrior needs to eat) before executing Lu Bu himself, and devastates Yuan Shao's massive army with surgical strikes before destroying their main supply depot and sending the Yuan army reeling in defeat.

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** It should be pointed out that while both Lu Bu and Yuan Shao are major threats, once they go up against someone who actually knows what he's doing and is aware of their weaknesses (like, say, [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]), the strategies they dismiss wind up causing their downfall. To be exact, Cao Cao starves Lu Bu's forces into submission (WizardNeedsFoodBadly ([[WizardNeedsFoodBadly because even the mightiest warrior needs to eat) eat]]) before executing Lu Bu himself, and devastates Yuan Shao's massive army with surgical strikes before destroying their main supply depot and sending the Yuan army reeling in defeat.
31st Mar '16 2:07:42 AM WM-R
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* In ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'', [[TheBerserker Lu Bu]] is usually portrayed as being like this and scoffing at any sort of strategy. His raw brute power simply makes it unnecessary, and many of his enemies are taken by surprise at how completely lacking in thought his attacks can be. Likewise, [[UpperClassTwit Yuan Shao's]] massive armies and [[InfiniteSupplies vast resources]] have him dismiss the idea that strategy is even necessary, since he can simply [[ZergRush steam]][[WeHaveReserves roll]] over his enemies.
** It should be pointed out that while both Lu Bu and Yuan Shao are major threats, once they go up against someone who actually knows what he's doing and is aware of their weaknesses (like, say, [[MagnificentBastard Cao Cao]]), the strategies they dismiss wind up causing their downfall. To be exact, Cao Cao starves Lu Bu's forces into submission (WizardNeedsFoodBadly because even the mightiest warrior needs to eat) before executing Lu Bu himself, and devastates Yuan Shao's massive army with surgical strikes before destroying their main supply depot and sending the Yuan army reeling in defeat.
16th Mar '16 2:27:27 AM eroock
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-> ''There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.''

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-> ''There's ->''"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.''"''
16th Dec '15 7:32:55 PM nombretomado
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* In ''LeagueOfLegends'', this sort of behavior is likely to make your team hate you. It can be effective if you know what you're doing or playing against weak players who are merely copying what stronger players are doing without understanding it, but in reality there IS a reason for the most common strategies, such as 1-1-2 + jungler - it simply is that much stronger than anything else which is available.

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* In ''LeagueOfLegends'', ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'', this sort of behavior is likely to make your team hate you. It can be effective if you know what you're doing or playing against weak players who are merely copying what stronger players are doing without understanding it, but in reality there IS a reason for the most common strategies, such as 1-1-2 + jungler - it simply is that much stronger than anything else which is available.
25th Nov '15 11:24:34 AM ChaoticNovelist
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Compare LeeroyJenkins, which is what happens when this kind of mindset bites you in the butt, and AchievementsInIgnorance, which is what happens when believing in this [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve actually has an effect]]. A favored non-tactic of TheFool.

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Compare LeeroyJenkins, which is what happens when this kind of mindset bites you in the butt, and AchievementsInIgnorance, which is what happens when believing in this [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve actually has an effect]]. A someone accomplishes something without knowing it was "against the rules" so to speak. It's a favored non-tactic of TheFool.
25th Nov '15 11:17:29 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Kaori from ''Manga/{{Saki}}'' manages to defeat several high-level mahjong players because of the fact that she's a complete amateur. She can't formulate the long term strategies her more experienced competitors are known to do, and as a result they are completely thrown off by her playstyle because they can't think up of an effective counter to it.

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* ''Manga/{{Saki}}'': Kaori from ''Manga/{{Saki}}'' manages to defeat several high-level mahjong players because of the fact that she's a complete amateur. She can't formulate the long term strategies her more experienced competitors are known to do, and as a result they are completely thrown off by her playstyle because they can't think up of an effective counter to it.



** Invoked in the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga as a means of countering Pegasus's mind-reading abilities.
** Jonouchi invokes this a little as well by using chance cards with random effects.
** This pretty much defines Judai Yuki of ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''.
* [[IdiotHero Luffy]] from ''Manga/OnePiece'' has invoked ConfusionFu before, but the bulk of his ability to take his enemies off guard is a result of his wildly impulsive personality.

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** Invoked in the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga as a means of countering Pegasus's mind-reading abilities.
abilities. If Yugi/Yami don't know what the cards are then Pegasus won't either.
** Jonouchi invokes this a little as well by using chance cards with random effects.
** This pretty much defines Judai Yuki of ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''.
* [[IdiotHero Luffy]] from ''Manga/OnePiece'' : [[IdiotHero Luffy]] has invoked ConfusionFu before, but the bulk of his ability to take his enemies off guard is a result of his wildly impulsive personality.
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