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28th May '16 11:15:45 PM back57557
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* In OrsonScottCard's ''[[Literature/EndersGame Shadow]]'' series, Bean has a genetic disorder that causes his brain to continue growing as an infant's does, giving him extreme intelligence, at the cost of causing his body to continue growing as well, leading to a projected lifespan of about eighteen years. [[spoiler:Since the problem is caused by gravity, he eventually leaves in a relativistic spacecraft with controllable gravity, so that he can possibly survive until a cure is found. Said cute is found for his children, but not in time for Bean, who DiedStandingUp after having to lie down for five years due to his now four-and-a-half-meters-tall body.]]

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* In OrsonScottCard's ''[[Literature/EndersGame Shadow]]'' series, Bean has a genetic disorder that causes his brain to continue growing as an infant's does, giving him extreme intelligence, at the cost of causing his body to continue growing as well, leading to a projected lifespan of about eighteen years. [[spoiler:Since the problem is caused by gravity, he eventually leaves in a relativistic spacecraft with controllable gravity, so that he can possibly survive until a cure is found. Said cute cure is found for his children, but not in time for Bean, who DiedStandingUp after having to lie down for five years due to his now four-and-a-half-meters-tall body.]]
24th May '16 10:59:44 AM Kadorhal
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** Later ''Gundam'' shows hand wave this trope. Starting in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'', the mechs are built out of stronger, lighter materials. In addition, the Gundam Mk. II is built using Movable Frame technology that further lightens the weight by incorporating all the internal systems into, and all the armor[[labelnote:*:which is generally thinner than on One Year War-era suits, due to the proliferation of beam weapons that [[ArmorPiercingAttack penetrate armor no matter how thick]][[/labelnote]] directly onto, the skeletal frame of the suit, allowing for more agile and more human-like movement. That technology becomes more common and, eventually, the standard. After ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]'', the technology is streamlined and miniaturized, resulting in mechs that are shorter, yet far more powerful than the earlier models. This, not coincidentally, made the new [[MerchandiseDriven model kits]] smaller and cheaper to produce at the same scale.

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** Later ''Gundam'' shows hand wave this trope. Starting in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'', the mechs are built out of stronger, lighter materials. In addition, the Gundam Mk. II is built using Movable Frame technology that further lightens the weight by incorporating all the internal systems into, and all the armor[[labelnote:*:which armor[[labelnote:*]]which is generally thinner than on One Year War-era suits, due to the proliferation of beam weapons that [[ArmorPiercingAttack penetrate armor no matter how thick]][[/labelnote]] directly onto, the skeletal frame of the suit, allowing for more agile and more human-like movement. That technology becomes more common and, eventually, the standard. After ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]'', the technology is streamlined and miniaturized, resulting in mechs that are shorter, yet far more powerful than the earlier models. This, not coincidentally, made the new [[MerchandiseDriven model kits]] smaller and cheaper to produce at the same scale.
24th May '16 10:37:10 AM Kadorhal
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* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' [[LampshadeHanging Hangs a Lampshade]] on this fact; although it glosses over the existence of relatively small HumongousMecha, an extremely huge example appears on the villains' side in one episode, and accordingly a character points out that it ought to collapse under its own weight. When the particular bit of AppliedPhlebotinum which prevents this is destroyed, it indeed does so. Bonus points for the mecha not simply falling over; rather, its legs rupture and collapse outwards under the weight.

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* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' [[LampshadeHanging Hangs hangs a Lampshade]] lampshade]] on this fact; although it glosses over the existence of relatively small HumongousMecha, an extremely huge example appears on the villains' side in one episode, and accordingly a character points out that it ought to collapse under its own weight. When the particular bit of AppliedPhlebotinum which prevents this is destroyed, it indeed does so. Bonus points for the mecha not simply falling over; rather, its legs rupture and collapse outwards under the weight.



** YoshiyukiTomino originally wanted to avoid this in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'', with all the battles taking place in space, but eventually broke down and had the middle third of the series set on Earth. His novelizations are almost entirely set in space, though.

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** YoshiyukiTomino Creator/YoshiyukiTomino originally wanted to avoid this in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'', with all the battles taking place in space, but eventually broke down and had the middle third of the series set on Earth. His novelizations are almost entirely set in space, though. Likewise, supplementary material notes that half the reason for Zeon's massive arms race throughout the series was in part because the Zaku was well-suited for space combat, but ended up being plodding enough that ''infantry'' with anti-mobile suit missiles could easily take them on in a gravity-affected environment.



** Later ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' shows hand wave this trope. Starting in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'', the mechs are built out of stronger, lighter materials. In addition, the Gundam Mk. II is built using Movable Frame technology that further lightens the weight by incorporating all the internal systems into the skeletal frame of the suit. That technology becomes more common and, eventually, the standard. After "Char's Counterattack", the technology is streamlined and miniaturized, resulting in mechs that are shorter, yet far more powerful than the earlier models. This, not coincidentally, made the new [[MerchandiseDriven model kits]] smaller and cheaper to produce at the same scale.
** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' also had the absolutely gigantic Psyco Gundam, which really shouldn't have been able to walk on Earth. This is lampshaded the first time it shows up, with the characters wondering how in the ''hell'' that thing doesn't crush itself under its own weight. The Psyco Gundam in fact needs it's own [[AppliedPhlebotinum Minovsky Drive]] like the White Base to support it's own immense mass.

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** Later ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' ''Gundam'' shows hand wave this trope. Starting in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'', the mechs are built out of stronger, lighter materials. In addition, the Gundam Mk. II is built using Movable Frame technology that further lightens the weight by incorporating all the internal systems into into, and all the armor[[labelnote:*:which is generally thinner than on One Year War-era suits, due to the proliferation of beam weapons that [[ArmorPiercingAttack penetrate armor no matter how thick]][[/labelnote]] directly onto, the skeletal frame of the suit.suit, allowing for more agile and more human-like movement. That technology becomes more common and, eventually, the standard. After "Char's Counterattack", ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's Counterattack]]'', the technology is streamlined and miniaturized, resulting in mechs that are shorter, yet far more powerful than the earlier models. This, not coincidentally, made the new [[MerchandiseDriven model kits]] smaller and cheaper to produce at the same scale.
** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' ''Zeta Gundam'' also had the absolutely gigantic Psyco Gundam, which really shouldn't have been able to walk on Earth. This is lampshaded the first time it shows up, with the characters wondering how in the ''hell'' that thing doesn't crush itself under its own weight. The Psyco Gundam in fact needs it's own [[AppliedPhlebotinum Minovsky Drive]] like the White Base to support it's own immense mass.



** Similarly, ProfessionalWrestling/AndreTheGiant was in constant pain for most of his life because of his gigantism and the strain it placed on his body. It eventually killed him.

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** Similarly, ProfessionalWrestling/AndreTheGiant was in constant pain for most of his life because of his gigantism and the strain it placed on his body. It eventually killed him.him, though he still lived more than twice as long as Wadlow.



** It is now discovered that the Tyrannosaurs were a lot more lightly built than previously thought, increasing their speed and efficiency as a predator. Also, it is believed that their diet changed dramatically through their lifetime. At old age they may well have been scavengers or more like specialist kill-hijackers, like male lions.

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** It is now discovered that the Tyrannosaurs were a lot more lightly built than previously thought, increasing their speed and efficiency as a predator. Also, it is believed that their diet changed dramatically through their lifetime. At old age they may well have been scavengers or more like specialist kill-hijackers, [[KillSteal kill-hijackers]], like male lions.
20th May '16 12:13:35 PM AnotherGuy
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* Architecture, of course, deals with this. The invention of the arch in Rome enabled them to build some massive projects, including bridges and aqueducts. One of the biggest issues in medieval England was that their cathedrals kept collapsing. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_buttress flying buttress]] solved that problem.
6th May '16 4:54:38 PM SonicLover
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** I just said that.

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** [[NarrationEcho I just said that.]]
27th Apr '16 12:15:25 PM Dvandemon
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** It's eventually revealed that Pym Particles [[MinovskyPhysics don't just work on size]], they affect strength (this trope) and [[HollywoodDensity density]] as well. It turns out a few other superhumans have powers that apply Pym Particles in this manner.
21st Apr '16 2:14:24 AM TendouMan
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* Acknowledged/lampshaded in ''Anime/{{Patlabor}}'': Humanoid-style [[HumongousMecha labors]] tend to be made with very large feet and small torsos. This trope is mentioned to a certain extent early in the TV series when Kanuka puts a labor through a bunch of stock action movie moves (jumping, flipping, etc). Noa asks Asuma why he's wincing, and he explains that while the new police labor model (the Ingram AVS-98) is technically capable of performing any motion that a human body can (with regards to degrees of freedom), it can't really take much more punishment than standard walking without requiring pretty serious maintenence, and implies that Kanuka's short perfomance will mean days of work and hundreds (possibly thousands) of dollars in components to bring the labor back to 100% operating capacity.

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* Acknowledged/lampshaded in ''Anime/{{Patlabor}}'': Humanoid-style [[HumongousMecha labors]] tend to be made with very large feet and small torsos. This trope is mentioned to a certain extent early in the TV series when Kanuka puts a labor through a bunch of stock action movie moves (jumping, flipping, etc). Noa asks Asuma why he's wincing, and he explains that while the new police labor model (the Ingram AVS-98) is technically capable of performing any motion that a human body can (with regards to degrees of freedom), it can't really take much more punishment than standard walking without requiring pretty serious maintenence, maintenance, and implies that Kanuka's short perfomance will mean days of work and hundreds (possibly thousands) of dollars in components to bring the labor back to 100% operating capacity.




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* In ''Anime/{{Kuromukuro}}, we have two ways to avoid this issue in regards to giant robots- one is that the most common used robots are MiniMecha not bigger than a tank. The other is that the ''actual'' HumongousMecha utilize technology that allows them to manipulate gravity, which handwaves all the problems regarding the law.
20th Apr '16 4:31:23 PM SonicLover
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** I just said that.
20th Apr '16 7:20:43 AM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfAnElderGod'': In the prologue, a scientist finds an arthropod-like, gigantic EldritchAbomination and wonders how it can support its own weight:
-->"How… How can that thing support its own weight?"
12th Apr '16 12:24:03 PM DeisTheAlcano
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Knowing that audiences are becoming more savvy about this as compared to the days when AttackOfThe50FootWhatever and the IncredibleShrinkingMan were safe, standard plots, many creators who knowingly break the law will try to invent some ArtMajorPhysics to [[JustifiedTrope justify]] or HandWave how their creation can get away with breaking it -- say, the AppliedPhlebotinum didn't just change their size, but also does something else to sustain their new size and counter the Law's negative effects upon them.

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Knowing that audiences are becoming more savvy about this as compared to the days when AttackOfThe50FootWhatever and the IncredibleShrinkingMan were safe, standard plots, many creators who knowingly break the law will try to invent some ArtMajorPhysics ArtisticLicensePhysics to [[JustifiedTrope justify]] or HandWave how their creation can get away with breaking it -- say, the AppliedPhlebotinum didn't just change their size, but also does something else to sustain their new size and counter the Law's negative effects upon them.
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