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2nd Sep '16 12:08:02 PM Dingbot
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* Played straight naturally in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin''. Freeze demolishes a wall by freezing it with water (What, You expected Them to follow other laws of physics?), only to reveal an absolutely massive drop to water. They jump without any hesitation, only commenting about being able to swim.

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* Played straight naturally in ''Film/BatmanAndRobin''. Freeze demolishes a wall by freezing it with water (What, You (what, you expected Them them to follow other laws of physics?), only to reveal an absolutely massive drop to water. They jump without any hesitation, only commenting about being able to swim.



** Gandalf and the Balrog fall for a particularly long time, but are saved simply by landing in an underground lake. But then again, one is an angel and the other is a semi-legendary monster from the First Age. In both the book and the movie, when Gandalf had been trapped on top of Orthanc, he did not escape by falling 500 feet onto land. In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', another Balrog "fell to ruin in the abyss" by slipping from a mountain passage. In this movie, Gandalf and Balrog fell ''miles'' to the water, but still were none the worse for wear when they hit bottom. Likewise, in ''The Hobbit," the narrative stated that Gandalf's possible jump from a ''fir tree'' "would have been the end of him." Likewise, Tolkien wrote in his editor's notes that "Gandalf needed to survive the fall, so he only fell into a sort of moat located a short fall from the bridge." So it was SoftWater that saved Gandalf, not a BodyOfIron.

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** Gandalf and the Balrog fall for a particularly long time, but are saved simply by landing in an underground lake. But then again, one is an angel and the other is a semi-legendary monster from the First Age. In both the book and the movie, when Gandalf had been trapped on top of Orthanc, he did not escape by falling 500 feet onto land. In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', another Balrog "fell to ruin in the abyss" by slipping from a mountain passage. In this movie, Gandalf and Balrog fell ''miles'' to the water, but still were none the worse for wear when they hit bottom. Likewise, in ''The Hobbit," Hobbit'' the narrative stated that Gandalf's possible jump from a ''fir tree'' "would have been the end of him." Likewise, Tolkien wrote in his editor's notes that "Gandalf needed to survive the fall, so he only fell into a sort of moat located a short fall from the bridge." So it was SoftWater that saved Gandalf, not a BodyOfIron.
12th Aug '16 8:48:00 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Justified in ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}''. The Master Chief is equipped with a suit of PoweredArmour that allowed a user to survive falling two kilometers, into a forest, with practically no injuries. Falling a few hundred meters into engine coolant isn't hard to believe at all. In most in-game situations, however, falling more than about 10 meters is always fatal, even if there is water below. And some bodies of water are programmed to give MC SuperDrowningSkills.

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* Justified in ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}''.''Franchise/{{Halo}}''. The Master Chief is equipped with a suit of PoweredArmour that allowed a user to survive falling two kilometers, into a forest, with practically no injuries. Falling a few hundred meters into engine coolant isn't hard to believe at all. In most in-game situations, however, falling more than about 10 meters is always fatal, even if there is water below. And some bodies of water are programmed to give MC SuperDrowningSkills.
9th Aug '16 4:35:12 PM BillWoods
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* Many diving wells (the pool that competitive divers land in) have the capability to allow a coach to bubble a considerable amount of air into the pool to ensure a softer landing. These are usually used to train young divers to dive from greater heights (3m platform to 5m or 10m platform, for instance) or to help those just training a new dive (where they're a lot less likely to enter the water cleanly).

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* Many diving wells (the pool that competitive divers land in) have the capability to allow a coach to bubble a considerable amount of air into the pool to ensure a softer landing. These are usually used to train young divers to dive from greater heights (3m platform to 5m or 10m platform, for instance) or to help those just training a new dive (where (when they're a lot less likely to enter the water cleanly).



** In "Cannonball Chemistry" Adam and Jamie test if floating a mattress on water will invoke this trope and make it safe to land on from a long fall (35 feet according to the myth taken from an episode of ''Series/BurnNotice''). They find that it actually makes matters worse, but then bring on a professional stunt coordinator (the same one who helped them with Dumpster Diving) and showed them that if you know what you're doing water can be soft; by jumping from 35 feet and safely decelerating in just over 4.5 feet of water (the depth of the shallow end of a pool described in the mattress jump myth).

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** In "Cannonball Chemistry" Adam and Jamie test if floating a mattress on water will invoke this trope and make it safe to land on from a long fall (35 feet according to the myth taken from an episode of ''Series/BurnNotice''). They find that it actually makes matters worse, but then bring on a professional stunt coordinator (the same one who helped them with Dumpster Diving) and who showed them that if you know what you're doing water can be soft; soft -- by jumping from 35 feet and safely decelerating in just over 4.5 feet of water (the depth of the shallow end of a pool described in the mattress jump myth).



* As noted, San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge is the site of frequent suicide attempts, a few of which each year are invariably unsuccessful. It's to the point that there are crisis hotline phones along the bridge sidewalks as well as signs warning prospective suicide attemptees against making the jump, as detailed in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_at_the_Golden_Gate_Bridge this Wikipedia article]]. In 2011, a teenage boy leaped from the bridge during a field trip (apparently convinced by this trope that he was in no real danger) and not only lived but sustained no injury more serious than bruising. There are a lot of variables that come into account in these falls, but it's usually the wind that saves you.

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* As noted, San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge is the site of frequent suicide attempts, a few of which each year are invariably unsuccessful. It's to the point that there are crisis hotline phones along the bridge sidewalks as well as signs warning prospective suicide attemptees against making the jump, as detailed in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicides_at_the_Golden_Gate_Bridge this Wikipedia article]]. In 2011, a teenage boy leaped from the bridge during a field trip (apparently convinced by this trope that he was in no real danger) and not only lived but sustained no injury more serious than bruising. There are a lot of variables that come into account in these falls, but it's usually the wind that saves you.
9th Aug '16 4:27:38 PM BillWoods
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There's also the issue of one's [[SuperDrowningSkills swimming ability]] -- many people who ''are'' fortunate enough to survive the fall itself will often drown because of poor swimming ability or injuries will make them unable to keep their head above the water (particularly if knocked unconscious upon impact). Keep in mind the deeper you are underwater when you stop going down the farther it is back up to the surface - and hitting the water likely made you exhale. Then there's the issue of exhaustion, as even the fittest and most skilled swimmers simply cannot tread water forever. Or, if the water is sufficiently cold, you're likely to succumb to hypothermia and drown before help can reach you.

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There's also the issue of one's [[SuperDrowningSkills swimming ability]] -- many people who ''are'' fortunate enough to survive the fall itself will often drown because of poor swimming ability or injuries will make them unable to keep their head above the water (particularly if knocked unconscious upon impact). Keep in mind the deeper you are underwater when you stop going down the farther it is back up to the surface - -- and hitting the water likely made you exhale. Then there's the issue of exhaustion, as even the fittest and most skilled swimmers simply cannot tread water forever. Or, if the water is sufficiently cold, you're likely to succumb to hypothermia and drown before help can reach you.



This goes in both directions. A character or a building hit by a wave crashing over them often won't get as much damage as they would in real life, despite the fact that one cubic yard of water weighs nearly a ton. (A cubic meter of water weighs a tonne - a metric ton - equal to 2,204.6 lbs.)

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This goes in both directions. A character or a building hit by a wave crashing over them often won't get as much damage as they would in real life, despite the fact that one cubic yard of water weighs nearly a ton. (A cubic meter of water weighs a tonne - -- a metric ton - -- equal to 2,204.6 lbs.)



* In the [[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame MMORPG]] ''[[Fanfic/FairyDanceOfDeath Alfheim Online]]'' (ALO), Undine player characters have an affinity with water, so they don't drown, or take damage from falling into water (as long as it's deep enough that they don't hit the bottom). Other races, not so much.



* In Disney's ''{{Disney/Pinocchio}}'', the title character and his best friend escape from Pleasure Island by jumping of a gigantic cliff (though to be fair Pinocchio is at least a bit scared about doing so). They both survive. Made all the more bizarre by the fact that the best friend is a cricket- which ordinarily would drown quickly even entering from a mundane height.

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* In Disney's ''{{Disney/Pinocchio}}'', the title character and his best friend escape from Pleasure Island by jumping of a gigantic cliff (though to be fair Pinocchio is at least a bit scared about doing so). They both survive. Made all the more bizarre by the fact that the best friend is a cricket- cricket -- which ordinarily would drown quickly even entering from a mundane height.



* The Carl Hiaasen novel ''Skinny Dip'' opens with the protagonist surviving a several hundred-foot plunge from the deck of a cruise ship after being pushed off by her husband. It's noted that the only reason she's able to survive the fall is because she was on the diving team in high school and thus knows the proper technique to minimize damage - and even then, the force [[ClothingDamage tears her dress off]] and leaves her so banged up that she can barely swim.

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* The Carl Hiaasen novel ''Skinny Dip'' opens with the protagonist surviving a several hundred-foot plunge from the deck of a cruise ship after being pushed off by her husband. It's noted that the only reason she's able to survive the fall is because she was on the diving team in high school and thus knows the proper technique to minimize damage - -- and even then, the force [[ClothingDamage tears her dress off]] and leaves her so banged up that she can barely swim.



* Subverted in ''LightNovel/GroundControlToPsychoelectricGirl'' - Makoto hits a lake from very high up and seems fine, but in the next episode it's almost immediately revealed that he actually broke his arm in the process. Erio was apparently okay, though she did virtually the same thing before the start of the series by herself and it ended with a broken leg.

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* Subverted in ''LightNovel/GroundControlToPsychoelectricGirl'' - -- Makoto hits a lake from very high up and seems fine, but in the next episode it's almost immediately revealed that he actually broke his arm in the process. Erio was apparently okay, though she did virtually the same thing before the start of the series by herself and it ended with a broken leg.



* Averted in ''Film/FinalDestination5'' as everyone on the crumbling bridge knows better than to try jumping into the comparably-placid water beneath them (even Sam and Peter when the alternative is skewering by construction supplies). However also played straight by Olivia surviving her fall into the water seemingly unscathed- [[HopeSpot until a car falls on her.]]

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* Averted in ''Film/FinalDestination5'' as everyone on the crumbling bridge knows better than to try jumping into the comparably-placid water beneath them (even Sam and Peter when the alternative is skewering by construction supplies). However also played straight by Olivia surviving her fall into the water seemingly unscathed- unscathed ... [[HopeSpot until a car falls on her.]]



** Done twice in ''Film/AViewToAKill'', first is when one of the executives gets ThrownFromTheZeppelin, and second is the scene where Max Zorin falls off the Golden Gate Bridge. Though that's the last the audience sees of him (ie. no body), its pretty clear he is killed. Naturally, since many San Franciscans will tell you that simply falling from the street level is fatal (the body is immediately pulverized and the victim - if still alive somehow - drowns in their own blood); Max fell from the ''very top'' of one of the towers.

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** Done twice in ''Film/AViewToAKill'', first is when one of the executives gets ThrownFromTheZeppelin, and second is the scene where Max Zorin falls off the Golden Gate Bridge. Though that's the last the audience sees of him (ie. no body), its pretty clear he is killed. Naturally, since many San Franciscans will tell you that simply falling from the street level is fatal (the body is immediately pulverized and the victim - -- if still alive somehow - -- drowns in their own blood); Max fell from the ''very top'' of one of the towers.



* Subverted in one ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' strip. Peter dives off a diving board, falls for [[OverlyLongGag almost the entire strip]], turns so that his belly is facing the ground, violently collides with the pool, and comments "Forget chlorine- pools with high dives need to put novocain in the water."

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* Subverted in one ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' strip. Peter dives off a diving board, falls for [[OverlyLongGag almost the entire strip]], turns so that his belly is facing the ground, violently collides with the pool, and comments "Forget chlorine- chlorine -- pools with high dives need to put novocain in the water."



* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' averts this with Leviathan, whose water shadow, hitting at the same speed he does - and he moves very fast indeed - is responsible for wounding or killing as many capes as his physical body.

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* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' averts this with Leviathan, whose water shadow, hitting at the same speed he does - -- and he moves very fast indeed - -- is responsible for wounding or killing as many capes as his physical body.



* It wasn't the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger's fuel tank that killed the crew -- that only threw the shuttle off-kilter, and the resulting supersonic aerodynamic stresses tore the orbiter apart. It was't the disintegration of the orbiter that killed the crew, either -- the crew module survived the midair breakup intact. What ''did'' kill them was falling a hundred thousand feet and landing in the ocean at 200 miles per hour.
* While 30 feet is hardly significant in fiction, free falling 30 feet into 12 inches of water and walking away with out any note worthy injuries does deserve mention http://www.history.com/shows/stan-lees-superhumans/videos/super-high-diver#super-high-diver
** Well there is what's known as the "thirty-thirty" - thirty feet over the water, thirty knots, lobbing frogmen out the back. Granted they aren't landing in a foot of water, but...
** 30 feet, or ten meter, is also a fairly standard height for the highest amongst diving boards. It's a height at which even bad dive attempts are usually survived without too serious injuries. Which is why a foot of water can break one's fall: the diver goes on purpose for a very painful but ultimately survivable belly flop. DontTryThisAtHome, though, not without some serious stunts and/or diving experience. Double that height and even professional cliff divers won't jump without a safety team standing by. At these heights air friction doesn't play much of a role yet, and a little extra height can make a big difference.

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* It wasn't the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger's ''Challenger'''s fuel tank that killed the crew -- that only threw the shuttle off-kilter, and the resulting supersonic aerodynamic stresses tore the orbiter apart. It was't the disintegration of the orbiter that killed the crew, either -- the crew module survived the midair breakup intact. What ''did'' kill them was falling a hundred thousand feet and landing in the ocean at 200 miles per hour.
* While 30 feet is hardly significant in fiction, free falling 30 feet into 12 inches of water and walking away with out any note worthy noteworthy injuries does deserve mention http://www.mention.[[http://www.history.com/shows/stan-lees-superhumans/videos/super-high-diver#super-high-diver
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** Well Well, there is what's known as the "thirty-thirty" - -- thirty feet over the water, thirty knots, lobbing frogmen out the back. Granted they aren't landing in a foot of water, but...
** 30 feet, or ten meter, meters, is also a fairly standard height for the highest amongst diving boards. It's a height at which even bad dive attempts are usually survived without too serious injuries. Which is why a foot of water can break one's fall: the diver goes on purpose for a very painful but ultimately survivable belly flop. DontTryThisAtHome, though, not without some serious stunts and/or diving experience. Double that height and even professional cliff divers won't jump without a safety team standing by. At these heights air friction doesn't play much of a role yet, and a little extra height can make a big difference.
17th Jul '16 8:58:11 AM nombretomado
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** And then we get a ''ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid'' shoutout with Lt. Bush screaming that he can't swim.

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** And then we get a ''ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid'' ''Film/ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid'' shoutout with Lt. Bush screaming that he can't swim.
28th Jun '16 6:52:50 PM Adept
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* Subverted in Scott Westerfeld's ''TheRisenEmpire'' (or ''Killing of Worlds'', depending if you bought the book as a whole or in halves). While in free fall H_rd brakes her nose on a ridge of ice; the ice then breaks and she continues falling.

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* Subverted in Scott Westerfeld's ''TheRisenEmpire'' ''Literature/TheRisenEmpire'' (or ''Killing of Worlds'', depending if you bought the book as a whole or in halves). While in free fall H_rd brakes her nose on a ridge of ice; the ice then breaks and she continues falling.
28th Jun '16 6:52:40 PM Adept
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* Averted in ''RendezvousWithRama''; a character is stranded atop a 500 meter-high cliff over the mid-station toroidal lake. Much is made about the problem (no climbing gear, the one and only flier that got him there is now destroyed), and the sheer height of the fall. [[spoiler:Then a scientist back on Earth remembers that reduced gravity (okay inertia/centrifugal force) means reduced terminal velocity. Rescue then becomes a matter of him jumping off and staying vertical (they don't tell him this plan/theory until the rescue boat arrives at the bottom of the cliff, so he won't have time to worry). He also uses his shirt as an impromptu parachute]].

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* Averted in ''RendezvousWithRama''; ''Literature/RendezvousWithRama''; a character is stranded atop a 500 meter-high cliff over the mid-station toroidal lake. Much is made about the problem (no climbing gear, the one and only flier that got him there is now destroyed), and the sheer height of the fall. [[spoiler:Then a scientist back on Earth remembers that reduced gravity (okay inertia/centrifugal force) means reduced terminal velocity. Rescue then becomes a matter of him jumping off and staying vertical (they don't tell him this plan/theory until the rescue boat arrives at the bottom of the cliff, so he won't have time to worry). He also uses his shirt as an impromptu parachute]].
28th Jun '16 1:12:05 PM erwgd
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* In the ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' spinoff ''VideoGame/DeusExTheFall'' this trope is averted. The main character jumps out of a plane over the ocean, surviving thanks to futuristic technology that uses force fields to cushion falls, but even with said technology he still takes extreme damage from the fall and has to be hospitalized from it.


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* In the ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' spinoff ''VideoGame/DeusExTheFall'' this trope is averted. The main character jumps out of a plane over the ocean, surviving thanks to futuristic technology that uses force fields to cushion falls, but even with said technology he still takes extreme damage from the fall and has to be hospitalized from it.
23rd Jun '16 1:48:30 AM Mister6
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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur''. You can jump from the spire of the Eiffel Tower, fall 300 metres and land in a 2 metre deep pond and survive. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QEj30xfaj0#t=3m49s You even get an achievement for it.]] He should've been dead long before that since he [[spoiler: jumped from a burning zeppelin into water and was only knocked out for a short time]].

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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur''. You can jump from the spire of the Eiffel Tower, fall 300 metres and land in a 2 metre deep pond and survive. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QEj30xfaj0#t=3m49s You even get an achievement for it.]] He ]]
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should've been dead long before that since he you [[spoiler: jumped from a burning zeppelin into water and was were only knocked out for a short time]].
23rd Jun '16 1:42:29 AM Mister6
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:: Justified by the previous mention that Ben studied wreckage diving at the Naval Academy -- he would likely have learned how to dive from heights "correctly" to avoid worse injury. They even showed him diving the correct way, feet first with arms crossed.

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:: ** Justified by the previous mention that Ben studied wreckage diving at the Naval Academy -- he would likely have learned how to dive from heights "correctly" to avoid worse injury. They even showed him diving the correct way, feet first with arms crossed.
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