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25th Mar '16 9:43:56 AM PF
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It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the extreme edges of both camps. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, etc.) of being know it all smarks.

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It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's they're on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains they entertain me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the extreme edges of both camps. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, etc.) of being know it all smarks.
25th Mar '16 9:41:21 AM PF
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These days, since the vast majority of the pro wrestling fanbase tend to fall into the smark category under the old definition, the definitions have mutated somewhat. Now, marks are the people who follow wrestling casually and tend to care more about the drama and the stories than the actual construction of the match, and smarks are people who study and analyze matches, root out backstage gossip, and generally take wrestling [[SeriousBusiness more seriously]]. Few marks have enough knowledge of the business to self-identify as marks; indeed, the term is more often thrown about by smarks as an insult. Another perception is that "smark" is an incorrect term and shouldn't be used. Connection with the business is required to be a smart, ergo, no one who isn't in the business can be anything other than a mark. Of course, as the Internet gets bigger and more wrestlers, especially independent ones, develop an online presence, some have become more receptive of the term (some use "smark" [[StealthInsult the way smarks use mark, though]]).

It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]]. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, etc.) of being know it all smarks.

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These days, since the vast majority of the pro wrestling fanbase tend to fall into the smark category under the old definition, the definitions have mutated somewhat. Now, marks are the people who follow wrestling casually and tend to care more about the drama and the stories than the actual construction of the match, and smarks are people who study and analyze matches, root out backstage gossip, and generally take wrestling [[SeriousBusiness more seriously]]. Few marks have enough knowledge of the business to self-identify as marks; indeed, the term is more often thrown about by smarks as an insult. Another perception is that "smark" is an incorrect term and shouldn't be used. Connection with the business is required to be a smart, ergo, no one who isn't in the business can be anything other than a mark. Of course, as the Internet gets bigger and more wrestlers, especially independent ones, develop an online presence, some have become more receptive of the term (some term.[[note]]Some use "smark" [[StealthInsult the way smarks use mark, though]]).

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It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]].camps. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, etc.) of being know it all smarks.



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15th Jan '16 12:10:26 PM Berrenta
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->''"Our story begins at ''Wrestling/WrestleMania 21'', where Wrestling/RandyOrton tried and failed to end Wrestling/TheUndertakerís Streak. Of course, all smart fans knew there was 0% chance of Randy actually winning (mainly because he had been booked to lose; his odds would have gone up to 100% if he had been booked to win)."''
-->--'''''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}''''', [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/ortons-vs-undertaker/ "Orton vs Undertaker"]]
21st Nov '15 11:31:55 PM hamonrye
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->''"Our story begins at ''Wrestling/WrestleMania 21'', where Wrestling/RandyOrton tried and failed to end Wrestling/TheUndertakerís Streak. Of course, all smart fans knew there was 0% chance of Randy actually winning (mainly because he had been booked to lose; his odds would have gone up to 100% if he had been booked to win)."''
-->--'''''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}''''', [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/ortons-vs-undertaker/ "Orton vs Undertaker"]]
23rd Oct '15 5:37:09 PM eroock
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-->--'''Wrestling/ShaneDouglas''', ''Forever Hardcore: The Documentary''

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-->--'''Wrestling/ShaneDouglas''', -->-- '''Wrestling/ShaneDouglas''', ''Forever Hardcore: The Documentary''
19th Mar '15 5:39:25 AM johnnyfog
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->''That's the beauty of it. Whenever anyone tells me they're a smart mark, I say, "Yeah, but the key word there, still, is that you're a '''mark.'''"

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->''That's the beauty of it. Whenever anyone tells me they're a smart mark, I say, "Yeah, but the key word there, still, is that you're a '''mark.'''"'''"''
19th Mar '15 5:39:15 AM johnnyfog
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''That's the beauty of it. Whenever anyone tells me they're a smart mark, I say, "Yeah, but the key word there, still, is that you're a '''mark.'''"

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''That's ->''That's the beauty of it. Whenever anyone tells me they're a smart mark, I say, "Yeah, but the key word there, still, is that you're a '''mark.'''"
19th Mar '15 5:39:06 AM johnnyfog
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''That's the beauty of it. Whenever anyone tells me they're a smart mark, I say, "Yeah, but the key word there, still, is that you're a '''mark.'''"
-->--'''Wrestling/ShaneDouglas''', ''Forever Hardcore: The Documentary''
14th Jan '15 6:02:54 PM PF
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It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]]. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, ect) of being know it all smarks.

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It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]]. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general) or favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, ect) etc.) of being know it all smarks.
22nd Dec '14 11:20:06 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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Back in the days of {{kayfabe}}, there were two types of people you'd encounter at {{professional wrestling}} events: "marks" and "smarts". Marks were the folks who paid to see the show they thought was an actual athletic competition. On the other hand, smarts were people who knew the truth about wrestling, that it was a staged athletic exhibition with no real competitive aspects. Usually, smarts had a connection backstage to wrestling, and most of them worked either for or with a promotion.

As the truth about pro wrestling became more widely known, a self proclaimed third class of people came into being in between these two: the smart mark, or "smark" for short. Smart marks knew the whole thing was staged, but enjoyed it anyway. They tended to look to different things in a match than marks did; while a mark would like a wrestler mostly based on how his character was portrayed, a smark would like a wrestler more based on his in-ring performance. Nevertheless, smarks did not have any real connections backstage; they simply enjoyed the show.

These days, since the vast majority of the pro wrestling fanbase tend to fall into the smark category under the old definition, the definitions have mutated somewhat. Now, marks are the people who follow wrestling casually and tend to care more about the drama and the storylines than the actual construction of the match, and smarks are people who study and analyze matches, root out backstage gossip, and generally take wrestling [[SeriousBusiness more seriously]]. Few marks have enough knowledge of the business to self-identify as marks; indeed, the term is more often thrown about by smarks as an insult. Another perception of the term "smark" is that it is an incorrect term and shouldn't be used. Connection with the business is required to be a smart, ergo, no one who isn't in the business can be anything other than a mark. Of course, as the Internet gets bigger and more wrestlers, especially independent ones, develop an online presence, some have become more receptive of the term (some use the term [[StealthInsult the way smarks use mark, though]]).

It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, his character entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]]. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general or Wrestling/JohnCena or Wrestling/TripleH in particular of being that kind of smark.

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Back in the days of {{kayfabe}}, there were two types of people you'd encounter at {{professional wrestling}} events: "marks" "[[TheMark marks]]" and "smarts". Marks were the folks who paid to see the show they thought was an actual athletic competition. On the other hand, smarts were people who knew the truth about wrestling, that it was a staged athletic exhibition with no real competitive aspects. Usually, smarts had a connection backstage to wrestling, and most of them worked either for or with a promotion.

As the truth about pro wrestling became more widely known, a self proclaimed third class of people came into being in between these two: the smart mark, or "smark" for short. Smart marks knew the whole thing was staged, but enjoyed it anyway. They tended to look to different things in a match than marks did; while a mark would like a wrestler mostly based on how his character was portrayed, he behaved, a smark would like a wrestler more based on his in-ring performance. Nevertheless, smarks did not have any real connections backstage; they simply enjoyed the show.

These days, since the vast majority of the pro wrestling fanbase tend to fall into the smark category under the old definition, the definitions have mutated somewhat. Now, marks are the people who follow wrestling casually and tend to care more about the drama and the storylines stories than the actual construction of the match, and smarks are people who study and analyze matches, root out backstage gossip, and generally take wrestling [[SeriousBusiness more seriously]]. Few marks have enough knowledge of the business to self-identify as marks; indeed, the term is more often thrown about by smarks as an insult. Another perception of the term is that "smark" is that it is an incorrect term and shouldn't be used. Connection with the business is required to be a smart, ergo, no one who isn't in the business can be anything other than a mark. Of course, as the Internet gets bigger and more wrestlers, especially independent ones, develop an online presence, some have become more receptive of the term (some use the term "smark" [[StealthInsult the way smarks use mark, though]]).

It used to be an axiom that smarks and marks [[BrokenBase did not get along]]. Nowadays, factoring in the ever growing gray area between the two, it's really not that bad. Many marks are capable of saying "Wrestler A's matches bore me, I take a bathroom break when he's on", and many smarks are capable of saying "so what if Wrestler B isn't technical perfection in the ring, his character he entertains me". The advent of the Internet has allowed the two communities to mingle as they didn't back in the days of the newsletters and video tape trading, and the line between smark and mark, such as it is, has blurred significantly. The negative perceptions on both sides of the divide come from the [[FanDumb extreme edges of both camps]]. The smarks who nitpick matches half to death looking for trivial flaws so they can rate popular matches "DUD" on the 5 star scale and feel intellectual, and the marks who shrilly accuse anyone who criticizes a show they like (say, Wrestling/{{WWE}} in general general) or Wrestling/JohnCena or Wrestling/TripleH in particular favorite wrestlers (Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/TripleH, ect) of being that kind of smark.
know it all smarks.



* Gosalyn of ''DarkwingDuck'' fits the description: when Darkwing takes part in a charity benefit wrestling match and she cheers him on with advice, he reminds her that wrestling is fake. She replies "Of course it's fake, the fun part is pretending it isn't!"

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* Gosalyn of ''DarkwingDuck'' ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' fits the description: when Darkwing takes part in a charity benefit wrestling match and she cheers him on with advice, he reminds her that wrestling is fake. She replies "Of course it's fake, the fun part is pretending it isn't!"
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