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See also SourSupporter for character types that can fall into this. May invoke GoodIsNotDumb. A subtrope of TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong if this means that characters who don't agree with idealists are frowned upon. Often overlaps with {{Wangst}}, typically when the character is using it as an excuse for inaction, or when they are immature, conflating extreme pessimism and nihilism with maturity.

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See also SourSupporter for character types that can fall into this. May invoke GoodIsNotDumb. A subtrope of TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong if this means that characters who don't agree with idealists are frowned upon. Often overlaps with {{Wangst}}, typically when the character is using it as an excuse for inaction, or when they are immature, conflating extreme pessimism and nihilism with maturity. Compare TheIdealist, who is likely to use this trope (in contrast to the WideEyedIdealist).
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* An interpretation of even the BittersweetEnding for ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' as almost everyone manages move on from their past struggles by eventually going in this route. A most notable one who does not get through this is [[spoiler:Aiko/Dios as her continued to refusal to see anything beyond power and his delusions of fantasy tropes, who is eventually left for himself]].

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* An interpretation of even the BittersweetEnding for ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' as almost everyone manages move on from their past struggles by eventually going in this route. A most notable one who does not get through this is [[spoiler:Aiko/Dios as her continued to refusal who he refuses to see anything beyond power and power, his delusions of fantasy tropes, who and continued scorn of humanity in general. Not only is eventually his chance at reclaiming his power forever lost, but his ignorance in seeing the actual changes Utena had left prompts Anthy to leave him for himself]].

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