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13th Oct '17 11:27:24 AM CosmicFerret
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* The ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'' episode ''Intersections in Real Time'' focuses on a StateSec interrogator attempting to break Sheridan's will and get him confess to a laundry list of political crimes. The interrogator consistently displays a very cynical outlook, stating that the preeminent truth of the time is that you can't fight City Hall, and tries to paint Sheridan's idealism as futile. Sheridan disagrees at every turn, remaining true to his ideals even in the face of grueling torture. At one point, he sums up his attitude by stating that all he has to do to win is to say "No, I won't," one more time than the people trying to oppress him can say "Yes, you will." The interrogator asks him if he thinks he can win, and he says "Every time I say 'no.'"

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* The ''[[BabylonFive ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'' episode ''Intersections in Real Time'' focuses on a StateSec interrogator attempting to break Sheridan's will and get him confess to a laundry list of political crimes. The interrogator consistently displays a very cynical outlook, stating that the preeminent truth of the time is that you can't fight City Hall, and tries to paint Sheridan's idealism as futile. Sheridan disagrees at every turn, remaining true to his ideals even in the face of grueling torture. At one point, he sums up his attitude by stating that all he has to do to win is to say "No, I won't," one more time than the people trying to oppress him can say "Yes, you will." The interrogator asks him if he thinks he can win, and he says "Every time I say 'no.'"
7th Oct '17 2:41:53 PM KingLyger
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost loved ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous the fact that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost loved ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous that the fact idea that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.justice is ludicrous.
30th Aug '17 6:07:58 PM project13Kr
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost love ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous the fact that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost love loved ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous the fact that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.
30th Aug '17 8:44:00 AM RezaMaulana98
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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen.

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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen. Even after the threat of Death Busters are eliminated at the end of season 3, they ''still'' attempted to kill Usagi, needing Usagi to being smart enough to lead Uranus' attack directly to Neptune's path to finally let the two concede defeat on Usagi.
23rd Aug '17 6:55:37 PM project13Kr
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost love ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous the fact that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.
--> '''Daredevil:''' ...That is a repellent statement. It's a vomitous insult to every ''cop'' - every ''fireman'' - every ''soldier'' alive who steps up to fight for those who can't! I am sorry for your loss![[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech But if you genuinely believe that only the death of a loved one can motivate a human being to take up a cause...]] then get your '''''pathetic, cynical ass''''' out of my way so I can do my job!
9th Aug '17 3:40:51 PM ghidorah15
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* ''Comicbook/LexLuthor'' of Franchise/{{Superman}} fame frequently laments on how Superman has caused mankind to become lazy, and that he keeps people from progressing. He brings up that without Superman, scientists, and especially Lex himself, could have time and motivation to make world changing inventions to end the suffering of millions. Superman of course tells Lex that he isn't stopping anyone from doing anything, the reason Lex doesn't make stuff to benefit mankind is [[JerkWithTheHeartOfAJerk because he doesn't want to]], with or without Superman in the picture.
-->"[[Comicbook/AllStarSuperman You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor.]]"
* In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' Batgirl (paranoid and mistrustful) tells Supergirl (idealistic and innocent) that she has no clue what real life is, and Supergirl replies that Batgirl doesn't know the real world as well as she likes to believe.

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* ''Comicbook/LexLuthor'' ComicBook/LexLuthor of Franchise/{{Superman}} ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' fame frequently laments on how that Superman has caused mankind to become lazy, lazy and that he keeps people from progressing. He brings up claims that without Superman, scientists, and especially Lex himself, could have time and motivation to make world changing world-changing inventions to end the suffering of millions. Superman Superman, of course tells Lex course, retorts that he isn't stopping anyone from doing anything, such things; the reason Lex doesn't make stuff to benefit mankind is [[JerkWithTheHeartOfAJerk [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk because he doesn't want to]], with or without Superman in the picture.
-->"[[Comicbook/AllStarSuperman -->"[[ComicBook/AllStarSuperman You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor.]]"
* In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', Batgirl (paranoid and mistrustful) tells Supergirl (idealistic and innocent) that she has no clue what real life is, and but Supergirl replies that Batgirl doesn't know the real world as well as she likes to believe.
9th Aug '17 3:30:47 PM AndyLA
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': The film-era Luke Skywalker walks away with this one. Han Solo disbelieves he can do much of anything on a galactic scale, only wanting enough cash to get Jabba off his tail. Obi-Wan and Yoda have written his dad off as a total, irredeemable loss. Luke matures over the course of the films, but doesn't ditch the idealism. He brings Han around first, and then proves his masters and the Emperor ''[[HeelFaceTurn dead wrong]]'' about Anakin.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': The film-era Luke Skywalker walks away with this one. Han Solo disbelieves he can do much of anything on a galactic scale, only wanting enough cash to get Jabba off his tail. Obi-Wan and Yoda have written his dad off as a total, irredeemable loss. Luke matures over the course of the films, but doesn't ditch the idealism. He brings Han around first, enough that Han himself becomes more idealistic [[Film/TheForceAwakens later in life]] [[spoiler:(even if he fails to talk his son into leaving the Dark Side)]], and then proves his masters and the Emperor ''[[HeelFaceTurn dead wrong]]'' about Anakin.
9th Aug '17 3:24:00 PM AndyLA
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-->"[[Comicbook/AllStarSuperman You could have saved the world years ago if you really cared about it, Lex.]]"

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-->"[[Comicbook/AllStarSuperman You could have saved the world years ago if you really cared about it, Lex.it mattered to you, Luthor.]]"
9th Aug '17 3:18:23 PM AndyLA
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-->"[[Comicbook/AllStarSuperman You could have saved the world years ago if you really cared about it, Lex.]]"
8th Aug '17 8:36:44 AM CosmicFerret
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* While ''WebVideo/SomeJerkWithACamera'' tends to mock the Creator/{{Disney}} corporation and [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks their theme parks]], the Jerk tries to do it [[AffectionateParody lightheartedly]], since he's really a fan of Disney. This means that he also comes down hard on works like ''Film/{{Shrek}}'' and ''Film/EscapeFromTomorrow'', which attack Disney as kids' stuff, or say that escapism is for losers who can't grow up.

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* While ''WebVideo/SomeJerkWithACamera'' tends to mock the Creator/{{Disney}} corporation and [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks their theme parks]], the Jerk tries to do it [[AffectionateParody lightheartedly]], since he's really a fan of Disney. This means that he also comes down hard on works like ''Film/{{Shrek}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' and ''Film/EscapeFromTomorrow'', which attack Disney as kids' stuff, or say that escapism is for losers who can't grow up.
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