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12th Jan '18 5:41:28 PM otemple700
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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen. Even after the threat of Death Busters are eliminated at the end of season 3, they ''still'' attempted to kill Usagi because they were angry at her for ''not being cynical'', needing Usagi to being smart enough to lead Uranus' attack directly to Neptune's path to finally let the two concede defeat on Usagi.

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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen. Even after the threat of Death Busters are eliminated at the end of season 3, they ''still'' attempted to kill Usagi because they were angry at her for ''not being cynical'', needing Usagi to being smart enough to lead Uranus' attack directly to Neptune's path to path. Even after they finally let the two concede defeat on Usagi.Usagi, they still don't let go of their ideals until the final arc [[spoiler:where they [[KickTheMoralityPet kill Saturn and Pluto]] in a desperate attempt to reach Galaxia and get her Star Seed, only to discover that Galaxia did not have a Star Seed at all. They end up dieing in front of Sailor Moon, Chibi-Moon, and the Starlights, [[SenselessSacrifice their actions amounting to nothing]].]]
14th Dec '17 3:34:32 PM otemple700
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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen. Even after the threat of Death Busters are eliminated at the end of season 3, they ''still'' attempted to kill Usagi, needing Usagi to being smart enough to lead Uranus' attack directly to Neptune's path to finally let the two concede defeat on Usagi.

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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Uranus and Neptune can't seem to get through their heads that choosing the more cynical options will only make the end results worse. This is especially clear after Usagi became one of the targets of the Death Busters halfway through the third season, which meant Uranus and Neptune may have had to kill her if her pure heart held one of the talismans. After learning of her real identity, Haruka and Michiru haven't yet grasped that they were willing to ''kill'' the very girl whom they are trying to ensure will live long enough to become queen. Even after the threat of Death Busters are eliminated at the end of season 3, they ''still'' attempted to kill Usagi, Usagi because they were angry at her for ''not being cynical'', needing Usagi to being smart enough to lead Uranus' attack directly to Neptune's path to finally let the two concede defeat on Usagi.
4th Dec '17 5:08:15 PM nombretomado
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* The CraigFerguson quote at the top of the page is a summary of the main theme of ''Series/DoctorWho''. Indeed, the arc of the very first Doctor was that of a bitter old man realizing the importance of kindness and empathy. Since then, the main theme of the show is the triumph of these ideals, no matter how dark the world gets.

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* The CraigFerguson Creator/CraigFerguson quote at the top of the page is a summary of the main theme of ''Series/DoctorWho''. Indeed, the arc of the very first Doctor was that of a bitter old man realizing the importance of kindness and empathy. Since then, the main theme of the show is the triumph of these ideals, no matter how dark the world gets.
21st Nov '17 11:32:44 PM R.G.
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* ''[[Webcomic/WalkyVerse It's Walky]]'': AntiHero KnightTemplar Sal, who is attempting to destroy every alien abductee in the United States (and, by extension, the continent itself) tells Joyce, the quirky, innocent goofy girl trying to stop her, that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids she's just a naive, deluded little girl]]. Joyce [[KirkSummation shoots back]] [[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/see-just-like-before/ that ''Sal'' is the 'little girl';]] Joyce has been through as many difficult and painful moments in her life as Sal has, but has matured enough to be able to cope with them without letting them poison her essential [[RousseauWasRight goodness and optimism]], whereas Sal has been weak enough to let them corrupt her, and her reaction is the world-destroying equivalent of a childish attention-seeking temper tantrum. Sal has no comeback to that, and later events in the strip prove Joyce to be correct.

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* ''[[Webcomic/WalkyVerse It's Walky]]'': AntiHero KnightTemplar Sal, who is attempting to destroy every alien abductee in the United States (and, by extension, the continent itself) tells Joyce, the quirky, innocent goofy girl trying to stop her, that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids she's just a naive, deluded little girl]]. Joyce [[KirkSummation shoots back]] [[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/see-just-like-before/ that ''Sal'' is the 'little girl';]] girl']], Joyce has been through as many difficult and painful moments in her life as Sal has, but has matured enough to be able to cope with them without letting them poison her essential [[RousseauWasRight goodness and optimism]], whereas Sal has been weak enough to let them corrupt her, and her reaction is the world-destroying equivalent of a childish attention-seeking temper tantrum. Sal has no comeback to that, and later events in the strip prove Joyce to be correct.
21st Nov '17 11:27:00 PM R.G.
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* ''[[Webcomic/WalkyVerse It's Walky]]'': AntiHero KnightTemplar Sal, who is attempting to destroy every alien abductee in the United States (and, by extension, the continent itself) tells Joyce, the quirky, innocent goofy girl trying to stop her, that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids she's just a naive, deluded little girl]]. Joyce [[KirkSummation shoots back]] that ''Sal'' is the 'little girl'; Joyce has been through as many difficult and painful moments in her life as Sal has, but has matured enough to be able to cope with them without letting them poison her essential [[RousseauWasRight goodness and optimism]], whereas Sal has been weak enough to let them corrupt her, and her reaction is the world-destroying equivalent of a childish attention-seeking temper tantrum. Sal has no comeback to that, and later events in the strip prove Joyce to be correct.

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* ''[[Webcomic/WalkyVerse It's Walky]]'': AntiHero KnightTemplar Sal, who is attempting to destroy every alien abductee in the United States (and, by extension, the continent itself) tells Joyce, the quirky, innocent goofy girl trying to stop her, that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids she's just a naive, deluded little girl]]. Joyce [[KirkSummation shoots back]] [[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/see-just-like-before/ that ''Sal'' is the 'little girl'; girl';]] Joyce has been through as many difficult and painful moments in her life as Sal has, but has matured enough to be able to cope with them without letting them poison her essential [[RousseauWasRight goodness and optimism]], whereas Sal has been weak enough to let them corrupt her, and her reaction is the world-destroying equivalent of a childish attention-seeking temper tantrum. Sal has no comeback to that, and later events in the strip prove Joyce to be correct.
8th Nov '17 1:49:24 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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-->'''[[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]]:''' It's all a ''joke''! Everything anybody ever ''valued'' or ''struggled'' for... it's all a ''monstrous'', demented ''gag''! So why can't ''you'' see the ''funny side''? Why aren't you ''laughing''?\\

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-->'''[[ComicBook/TheJoker ->'''[[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]]:''' It's all a ''joke''! Everything anybody ever ''valued'' or ''struggled'' for... it's all a ''monstrous'', demented ''gag''! So why can't ''you'' see the ''funny side''? Why aren't you ''laughing''?\\
1st Nov '17 10:03:13 AM KingLyger
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* ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'' has its cynical creator/narrator DWK and by extension the characters, constantly acting like the world is a sad messed up place and those (like Sweetie Belle) who show lots of optimism and a positive attitude are abnormal... while also portraying the people with this mindset as miserable and even suicidal drunks and showing that just sulking in cynicism and misery just wastes time that could be devoted to having fun and improving ones self.

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* ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'' has its cynical creator/narrator DWK DWK, and by extension the characters, constantly acting like the world is a sad sad, messed up place and those (like Sweetie Belle) place, viewing anyone who show shows lots of optimism and a positive attitude are abnormal... while as abnormal. At the same time, it also portraying portrays the people with this mindset cynics as miserable and even suicidal drunks and showing empty, with many of the show's lessons shifted to say that just sulking in cynicism and misery just wastes time that could be devoted to having fun and improving ones self. The recaps of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' also preach the lessons that "you'd be surprised what people are willing to forgive, but you've got to make the effort," along with "age and maturity are two entirely different things."
27th Oct '17 12:00:28 AM Kamiguy123
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-->''"Remember, you cannot be both young and wise. Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don’t learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us. Cynics always say no. But saying “yes” begins things. Saying “yes” is how things grow. Saying “yes” leads to knowledge. “Yes” is for young people. So for as long as you have the strength to, say “yes'.”''

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-->''"Remember, you cannot be both young and wise. Young people who pretend to be wise to the ways of the world are mostly just cynics. Cynicism masquerades as wisdom, but it is the farthest thing from it. Because cynics don’t learn anything. Because cynicism is a self-imposed blindness, a rejection of the world because we are afraid it will hurt us or disappoint us. Cynics always say no. But saying “yes” begins things. Saying “yes” is how things grow. Saying “yes” leads to knowledge. “Yes” is for young people. So for as long as you have the strength to, say “yes'.“yes”.”''
13th Oct '17 11:27:24 AM CosmicFerret
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* The ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'' episode ''Intersections in Real Time'' focuses on a StateSec interrogator attempting to break Sheridan's will and get him confess to a laundry list of political crimes. The interrogator consistently displays a very cynical outlook, stating that the preeminent truth of the time is that you can't fight City Hall, and tries to paint Sheridan's idealism as futile. Sheridan disagrees at every turn, remaining true to his ideals even in the face of grueling torture. At one point, he sums up his attitude by stating that all he has to do to win is to say "No, I won't," one more time than the people trying to oppress him can say "Yes, you will." The interrogator asks him if he thinks he can win, and he says "Every time I say 'no.'"

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* The ''[[BabylonFive ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'' episode ''Intersections in Real Time'' focuses on a StateSec interrogator attempting to break Sheridan's will and get him confess to a laundry list of political crimes. The interrogator consistently displays a very cynical outlook, stating that the preeminent truth of the time is that you can't fight City Hall, and tries to paint Sheridan's idealism as futile. Sheridan disagrees at every turn, remaining true to his ideals even in the face of grueling torture. At one point, he sums up his attitude by stating that all he has to do to win is to say "No, I won't," one more time than the people trying to oppress him can say "Yes, you will." The interrogator asks him if he thinks he can win, and he says "Every time I say 'no.'"
7th Oct '17 2:41:53 PM KingLyger
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost loved ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous the fact that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'' Matt encounters a female protege of the Punisher (who lost her fiance) and tries to sympathize with her by bring up heroes who also lost loved ones. However, when she says that nobody can be as driven as her and Matt without a tragedy, he ultimately throws his billy club at her face, narrowly misses and gives a speech stating how ridiculous that the fact idea that you need a tragic event to fight for justice.justice is ludicrous.
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