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15th Feb '18 3:29:20 AM XDiakos
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** The Akan people, also from Africa, have a similar belief, seeing the secondborn twin as the elder one because s/he possessed the maturity to help the firstborn twin out of the womb before his/her own exit.
15th Feb '18 3:22:31 AM XDiakos
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* This is inverted by the Yoruba people in Africa, who have the highest occurrence of twins in the world. In their language, the term ''Taiwo'' ("the first twin to taste the world") is given to the firstborn twin and Kehinde ("the second-born of the twins") is given to the secondborn twin. According to them, before the Kehinde is born, he or she sends the Taiwo into the world first to determine if conditions are suitable for their own birth. Thus, the Kehinde is considered to be the older twin and the Taiwo the younger one.

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* This is inverted by the Yoruba people in Africa, who have the highest occurrence of twins in the world. In their language, the term ''Taiwo'' ("the first twin to taste the world") is given to the firstborn twin and Kehinde ''Kehinde'' ("the second-born of the twins") is given to the secondborn twin. According to them, before the Kehinde is born, he or she sends the Taiwo into the world first to determine if conditions are suitable for their own birth. Thus, the Kehinde is considered to be the older twin and the Taiwo the younger one.
15th Feb '18 3:21:53 AM XDiakos
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* This is inverted by the Yoruba people in Africa, who have the highest occurrence of twins in the world. In their language, the term ''Taiwo'' ("the first twin to taste the world") is given to the firstborn twin and Kehinde ("the second-born of the twins") is given to the secondborn twin. According to them, before the Kehinde is born, he or she sends the Taiwo into the world first to determine if conditions are suitable for their own birth. Thus, the Kehinde is considered to be the older twin and the Taiwo the younger one.
6th Jan '18 9:51:25 PM Gamermaster
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* In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', the Numbers cyborgs type numbers do not represent their actual birth order; Sette (Type VII), is the youngest of them, while Dieci (Type X) is older than several others. As a result, Quattro (Type IV) is annoyed that Cinque (Type V) being technically older due to being born first, and refers to her as she would a younger sibling. In ''Audioplay/StrikerSSoundStageX'' and ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'', [[spoiler:Nove]] is somewhat unwilling to accept that she's [[spoiler:Subaru]]'s ''younger'' sister after her adoption.

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* In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', the Numbers cyborgs type numbers do not represent their actual birth order; Sette (Type VII), is the youngest of them, while Dieci (Type X) is older than several others. As a result, Quattro (Type IV) is annoyed that Cinque (Type V) being technically older due to being born first, and refers to her as she would a younger sibling. In ''Audioplay/StrikerSSoundStageX'' ''Audioplay/StrikersSoundStageX'' and ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'', ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'', [[spoiler:Nove]] is somewhat unwilling to accept that she's [[spoiler:Subaru]]'s ''younger'' sister after her adoption.
4th Dec '17 9:14:19 PM FiliasCupio
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* In Japanese, there are no words directly corresponding to 'sister' and 'brother'. Instead there are separate words for 'younger brother', 'younger sister', 'older brother' and 'older sister'. This means twins are constantly revealing their birth order in normal conversation. Whether they squabble over it is up to the twins.
20th Nov '17 1:50:52 AM Cryoclaste
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* Completely [[AvertedTrope averted]] in SuperMarioBrothers Whenever he's not a HeroicMime like his brother, Luigi is more than happy to address Mario as "Big bro" or something similar. Particularly noticeable in ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'''s epilogue, where it's the very first thing you read.

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* Completely [[AvertedTrope averted]] in SuperMarioBrothers ''Franchise/SuperMarioBrothers'' Whenever he's not a HeroicMime like his brother, Luigi is more than happy to address Mario as "Big bro" or something similar. Particularly noticeable in ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'''s epilogue, where it's the very first thing you read.
25th Aug '17 4:26:19 AM FlyingDuckManGenesis
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* ''DragonTales'' took this to the extreme, with one head of a two-headed dragon popping out of the egg two seconds before the other.
7th Jul '17 11:59:31 AM AgProv
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* In TheBible, the twin sons Esau and Jacob are beloved of their parents. Esau is the firstborn and set to inherit; but depending on whose interpretation you accept,[[note]]There is a Jewish-Christian interpretation favouring Jacob, and an Islamic one favouring Esau[[/note]] he either sold his birthright to his brother for a pittance, or else was cheated out of it by a conniving sibling. In an earlier instance, the Bible tells us that a prudent midwife seeing the mother is having twins will take care to tie a red thread to the wrist of the firstborn, to establish his seniority. In Genesis 38, this leads to the strange case of Pharez and Zarah - where the sibling war seemingly began in the womb. And an extra-Biblical legend suggests Cain and Abel, the sons of Adam and Eve, were twin brothers. look at the rivalry ''they'' had.
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5th Jul '17 3:24:00 PM ectostar
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->'''Skeeter:''' Shoot me, Gonzo!\\
'''Scooter:''' Me first, I'm older!\\
'''Skeeter:''' Only by a minute!

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->'''Skeeter:''' ->'''Skeeter''': Shoot me, Gonzo!\\
'''Scooter:''' '''Scooter''': Me first, I'm older!\\
'''Skeeter:''' '''Skeeter''': Only by a minute!



-->'''Solange:''' Just because I was born fifteen minutes earlier doesn't mean you can call me "old girl!"

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-->'''Solange:''' -->'''Solange''': Just because I was born fifteen minutes earlier doesn't mean you can call me "old girl!"



--> '''Artemis''': I'm fine, Apollo. And I am not your little sister.
--> '''Apollo''': Hey, I was born first.
--> '''Artemis''': We're twins! How many millennia do we have to argueŚ

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--> '''Artemis''': -->'''Artemis''': I'm fine, Apollo. And I am not your little sister.
-->
sister.\\
'''Apollo''': Hey, I was born first.
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first.\\
'''Artemis''': We're twins! How many millennia do we have to argueŚ



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--> '''[[spoiler:Travis]]:''' Big brother? How do you know I didn't pop out first?
--> '''[[spoiler:Henry]]:''' [[TheTapeKnewYouWouldSayThat You're prob'ly spoutin' off about which one of us popped out first]].

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--> '''[[spoiler:Travis]]:''' -->'''[[spoiler:Travis]]''': Big brother? How do you know I didn't pop out first?
--> '''[[spoiler:Henry]]:'''
first?\\
'''[[spoiler:Henry]]''':
[[TheTapeKnewYouWouldSayThat You're prob'ly spoutin' off about which one of us popped out first]].



-->'''Laura:''' Vax is ancient. Vex is young and spry and smells of elderflowers.

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-->'''Laura:''' -->'''Laura''': Vax is ancient. Vex is young and spry and smells of elderflowers.



-->'''Jan:''' Jace, we're twins. You're only two minutes older than me.\\
'''Jace:''' A guy can learn a lot in two minutes!

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-->'''Jan:''' -->'''Jan''': Jace, we're twins. You're only two minutes older than me.\\
'''Jace:''' '''Jace''': A guy can learn a lot in two minutes!



-->'''Gemini:''' Four minutes, four years, the point is I am the older brother and she never respected that!

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-->'''Gemini:''' -->'''Gemini''': Four minutes, four years, the point is I am the older brother and she never respected that!



-->'''Interviewer:''' Now I notice in the [CD] liner notes, I think Tom, you say "my younger brother"?\\
'''Tom Kaulitz:''' Yeah, I'm 10 minutes older!\\
'''Bill Kaulitz:''' Yeah, he's so proud of it! So, please. 10 minutes? ''Oh wow''.
* Twins born close to midnight but far enough apart to be on different dates have the additional bragging rights of being born a day earlier even if that was technically minutes earlier, often leading to [[DiscussedTrope discussion]] of this trope from both the media and the parents.

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-->'''Interviewer:''' -->'''Interviewer''': Now I notice in the [CD] liner notes, I think Tom, you say "my younger brother"?\\
'''Tom Kaulitz:''' Kaulitz''': Yeah, I'm 10 minutes older!\\
'''Bill Kaulitz:''' Kaulitz''': Yeah, he's so proud of it! So, please. 10 minutes? ''Oh wow''.
* Twins born close to midnight but far enough apart to be on different dates have the additional bragging rights of being born a day earlier even if that was technically minutes earlier, often leading to [[DiscussedTrope discussion]] {{discuss|edTrope}}ion of this trope from both the media and the parents.



22nd Jun '17 12:12:08 PM tyrekecorrea
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MayaAndMiguel'', the titular characters are fraternal twins, and Maya is the elder of the two.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MayaAndMiguel'', the titular characters are fraternal twins, and Maya Miguel is the elder of the two.
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