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14th Mar '16 1:27:13 AM Grug16
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* In Computer Science, a value that's used literally inside of a block of code instead of assigned to a variable first is referred to as a "Magic Number". These are considered harmful as it makes it very difficult to determine what the number represents, or if it's supposed to be used elsewhere in the program. Therefore, good programs should have a little "magic" as possible.
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22nd Dec '15 11:22:53 PM zequeins
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* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''. This is what happened to Earth in the campaign setting. The Technocracy managed to impose its scientific, rational world view and thereby suppress the fantasy elements (e.g., magic and magical monsters) that were common before. But the truth is, Magic and Science are the ''same'', [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve laws of the universe brought to reality because the consensus believes so]]. Back then you may mix this and that into a cauldron and say the incantations to create a HealingPotion. Now you culture bacteria and extract penicillin out of it.

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* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''. This is what happened to Earth in the campaign setting. The Technocracy managed to impose its scientific, rational world view and thereby suppress the fantasy elements (e.g., magic and magical monsters) that were common before. But the truth is, Magic and Science are the ''same'', [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve laws of the universe brought to reality because the consensus believes so]]. Back then you may mix this and that into a cauldron and say the incantations to create a HealingPotion. Now you culture bacteria grow fungi and extract penicillin out of it.
21st Dec '15 8:27:19 PM zequeins
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* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''. This is what happened to Earth in the campaign setting. The Technocracy managed to impose its scientific, rational world view and thereby suppress the fantasy elements (e.g., magic and magical monsters) that were common before.

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* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''. This is what happened to Earth in the campaign setting. The Technocracy managed to impose its scientific, rational world view and thereby suppress the fantasy elements (e.g., magic and magical monsters) that were common before. But the truth is, Magic and Science are the ''same'', [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve laws of the universe brought to reality because the consensus believes so]]. Back then you may mix this and that into a cauldron and say the incantations to create a HealingPotion. Now you culture bacteria and extract penicillin out of it.
15th Nov '15 7:54:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* A lot of Victorian literature is constructed around this idea. ''{{Dracula}}'' stands out as a great example as the mysticism of Eastern Europe is trumped by the science and innovation of an industrialized England.
* In ''ConanTheBarbarian'', according to the good sorcerer Pelias Conan's kingdom brought forth an age of logic and science which is slowly destroying the magic.
* In ''Voyage of the Basset'' (televised as ''VoyageOfTheUnicorn''), the motto of the ''Basset'' is "Credendo vides", translated in-universe as "By believing, one sees." In other words, you have to ignore science and believe in the fantastic without evidence before you can see behind TheMasquerade.

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* A lot of Victorian literature is constructed around this idea. ''{{Dracula}}'' ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' stands out as a great example as the mysticism of Eastern Europe is trumped by the science and innovation of an industrialized England.
* In ''ConanTheBarbarian'', ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian'', according to the good sorcerer Pelias Conan's kingdom brought forth an age of logic and science which is slowly destroying the magic.
* In ''Voyage of the Basset'' (televised as ''VoyageOfTheUnicorn''), ''Literature/VoyageOfTheBasset'', the motto of the ''Basset'' is "Credendo vides", translated in-universe as "By believing, one sees." In other words, you have to ignore science and believe in the fantastic without evidence before you can see behind TheMasquerade.



* Inverted in ''TheDresdenFiles''. There active magic destroys technology to the point where cell phones are considered the canaries of magical activity.

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* Inverted in ''TheDresdenFiles''.''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. There active magic destroys technology to the point where cell phones are considered the canaries of magical activity.
20th Jun '15 6:36:18 PM nombretomado
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* Seems to work both ways in the ''KateDaniels'' books: Technology destroys magic and magic causes technology to fail.

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* Seems to work both ways in the ''KateDaniels'' ''Literature/KateDaniels'' books: Technology destroys magic and magic causes technology to fail.
15th Jun '15 8:54:31 AM Cuddles
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* Played with a bit in ''Creator/TerryBrooks''' ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series. In the back-story this trope was played very straight, with the rise of science and industry virtually eliminating magic and most fantasy races. However, after humanity [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nuked itself]] [[AfterTheEnd back to the stone age]], magic rose to much greater prominence again.
7th Jan '15 7:32:03 PM nombretomado
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* RayBradbury's short story ''On The Orient, North'' featured a ghost fleeing continental Europe to save himself from the scientific intellectuals that were "killing" him, aided by an English nurse.

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* RayBradbury's Creator/RayBradbury's short story ''On The Orient, North'' featured a ghost fleeing continental Europe to save himself from the scientific intellectuals that were "killing" him, aided by an English nurse.
20th Jul '14 2:33:10 PM SpiderRider3
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** Well given the organisation he heads and what they do on a regular basis, its most likely propaganda.
26th Feb '14 6:23:23 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Contrast DoingInTheScientist, which can be seen as this trope in reverse; science fades because of magical underpinnings.
2nd Feb '14 7:37:01 PM Fireblood
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* In the ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' setting, it is common knowledge that TheMagicGoesAway: No-one can surpass the Founders of Hogwarts, who can't surpass Merlin, no one can make stuff as good as the ancient artifacts, etc. According to the Blood Purists, of whom the Death Eaters are a violently proactive faction, it's the fault of the muggle-borns for watering-down wizarding blood. Rationalist!Harry gets Draco to collaborate with him in investigating the true cause of the decline of magic through the ages. One of the alternate hypotheses considered is this very trope: "magic disappears because of Muggle science developing". [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Turns out the actual truth is more interesting than that.]]Merlin cast a very powerful spell to stop powerful magic being accessible from books or ghosts to people who hadn't figured it out themselves, to stop the world from being destroyed by idiots with powerful magic, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero but the Interdict of Merlin ended up depriving the Wizarding World of most magical knowledge. ]]]]

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* In the ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' setting, it is common knowledge that TheMagicGoesAway: No-one can surpass the Founders of Hogwarts, who can't surpass Merlin, no one can make stuff as good as the ancient artifacts, etc. According to the Blood Purists, of whom the Death Eaters are a violently proactive faction, it's the fault of the muggle-borns muggleborns for watering-down wizarding blood. Rationalist!Harry gets Draco to collaborate with him in investigating the true cause of the decline of magic through the ages. One of the alternate hypotheses considered is this very trope: "magic disappears because of Muggle science developing". [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Turns out the actual truth is more interesting than that.]]Merlin ]] Merlin cast a very powerful spell to stop powerful magic being accessible from books or ghosts to people who hadn't figured it out themselves, to stop the world from being destroyed by idiots with powerful magic, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero but the Interdict of Merlin ended up depriving the Wizarding World of most magical knowledge. ]]]]
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