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22nd Apr '18 2:36:40 AM Carnel
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''. The main setting, Gensoukyou, has actually been set up to absorb things that would be destroyed from lack of belief. Curiously, this also works for science to an extent as well: forgotten machinery and devices, frequently long [[TechnologyMarcheOn obsolete]] technology that is no longer of interest to the public ends up in Gensoukyou as debris. [[spoiler:This may hold more for certain beings than for others. Deities are confirmed to be reliant on human worship and new characters appear due to outsiders' disbelief but Youkai are still able to cross the Border for a snack with the right preparations. Then there are the issues of the entire Lunar civilization (which admittedly could be in the same situation as Gensoukyou) and at least one character who can come and go at will.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''. The main setting, Gensoukyou, has actually been set up to absorb things that would be destroyed from lack of belief. Curiously, this also works for science to an extent as well: forgotten machinery and devices, frequently long [[TechnologyMarcheOn [[TechnologyMarchesOn obsolete]] technology that is no longer of interest to the public ends up in Gensoukyou as debris. [[spoiler:This may hold more for certain beings than for others. Deities are confirmed to be reliant on human worship and new characters appear due to outsiders' disbelief but Youkai are still able to cross the Border for a snack with the right preparations. Then there are the issues of the entire Lunar civilization (which admittedly could be in the same situation as Gensoukyou) and at least one character who can come and go at will.]]
22nd Apr '18 2:34:05 AM Carnel
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''. The main setting, Gensoukyou, has actually been set up to absorb things that would be destroyed from lack of belief. [[spoiler:This may hold more for certain beings than for others. Deities are confirmed to be reliant on human worship and new characters appear due to outsiders' disbelief but Youkai are still able to cross the Border for a snack with the right preparations. Then there are the issues of the entire Lunar civilization (which admittedly could be in the same situation as Gensoukyou) and at least one character who can come and go at will.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''. The main setting, Gensoukyou, has actually been set up to absorb things that would be destroyed from lack of belief. Curiously, this also works for science to an extent as well: forgotten machinery and devices, frequently long [[TechnologyMarcheOn obsolete]] technology that is no longer of interest to the public ends up in Gensoukyou as debris. [[spoiler:This may hold more for certain beings than for others. Deities are confirmed to be reliant on human worship and new characters appear due to outsiders' disbelief but Youkai are still able to cross the Border for a snack with the right preparations. Then there are the issues of the entire Lunar civilization (which admittedly could be in the same situation as Gensoukyou) and at least one character who can come and go at will.]]
20th Mar '18 10:02:02 AM GreatKeith
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* Side material for ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' reveals that magic may be doomed. Magic is largely dependent upon a theory of the way the world works based on such things as the classic elements or fantasy creatures. However, as science progresses, it becomes more difficult to hold the proper mindset. It is implied that eventually magic will have been replaced completely by science.

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* Side material for ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' reveals that magic may be doomed. Magic is largely dependent upon a theory of the way the world works based on such things as the classic elements or fantasy creatures. However, as science progresses, it becomes more difficult to hold the proper mindset. It is implied that eventually magic will have been replaced completely by science. In the distant sequel ''Manga/UQHolder'', [[spoiler: magical apps have been developed to give most people the ability to use magic, albeit artificially. There are very few true magic users in this series compared to its predecessor]].
9th Jan '18 5:38:33 PM MarqFJA
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** Furthermore, the brite force done by the Technocracy means that the laws of reality are ''calcifying'' and they've basically caused people to grow numb on imagining, thus making their exotic super-science just as hard to believe as magic so Science is destroying Magic while destroying itself in the process.

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** Furthermore, the brite brute force done by the Technocracy means that the laws of reality are ''calcifying'' and they've basically caused people to grow numb on imagining, thus making their exotic super-science just as hard to believe as magic so Science is destroying Magic while destroying itself in the process.
9th Jan '18 4:47:37 PM MarqFJA
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** The second season proves that this is more serious than what one might suspect. It was already known that espers can't use magic or they'll die but it turns out the opposite is also true: a sufficiently powerful AIM dispersion field such as the one wielded by [[spoiler:[[BewareTheNiceOnes FUSE=Kazakiri]]]] will [[AntiMagic slowly kill anyone who attempts to cast spells within the field's range]] aside from {{No Sell}}ing any and all magic directed against the wielder.

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** The second season proves that this is more serious than what one might suspect. It was already known that espers can't use magic or they'll die but it turns out the opposite is also true: a sufficiently powerful AIM dispersion field such as the one wielded by [[spoiler:[[BewareTheNiceOnes FUSE=Kazakiri]]]] Fuse=KAZAKIRI]]]] will [[AntiMagic slowly kill anyone who attempts to cast spells within the field's range]] aside from {{No Sell}}ing any and all magic directed against the wielder.



* In Computer Science, a value that's used literally inside of a block of code instead of assigned to a variable first is referred to as a "Magic Number". These are considered harmful as it makes it very difficult to determine what the number represents, or if it's supposed to be used elsewhere in the program. Therefore, good programs should have a little "magic" as possible.

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* In Computer Science, a value that's used literally inside of a block of code instead of assigned to a variable first is referred to as a "Magic Number". These are considered harmful as it makes it very difficult to determine what the number represents, or if it's supposed to be used elsewhere in the program. Therefore, good programs should have a as little "magic" as possible.
8th Sep '17 6:56:08 PM DVB
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** Furthermore, the brite force done by the Technocracy means that the laws of reality are ''calcifying'' and they've basically caused people to grow numb on imagining, thus making their exotic super-science just as hard to believe as magic so Science is destroying Magic while destroying itself in the process.
6th Jul '17 8:28:25 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The ExtendedUniverse for ''VideoGame/KingsQuest'' has this as part of the games' backstory. The magical creatures and beings that once lived on our world were GenreSavvy about the matter, so when we started becoming more scientific they voluntarily left to a new world before any weakening could occur.

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* The ExtendedUniverse for ''VideoGame/KingsQuest'' has this as part of the games' backstory. The magical creatures and beings that once lived on our world were GenreSavvy knew about the matter, so when we started becoming more scientific they voluntarily left to a new world before any weakening could occur.
16th May '17 2:04:10 PM nombretomado
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* In ''[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]]'', there is an expression: As technology moves towards the future, magecraft moves towards the past. As technology has advanced, the ability of magic users has only declined. ''{{Tsukihime}}'', set in the same continuity, originally introduced this idea with the fact that where magic was once powerful, it now has to hide from society at large or risk destruction.

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* In ''[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]]'', there is an expression: As technology moves towards the future, magecraft moves towards the past. As technology has advanced, the ability of magic users has only declined. ''{{Tsukihime}}'', ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', set in the same continuity, originally introduced this idea with the fact that where magic was once powerful, it now has to hide from society at large or risk destruction.
29th Oct '16 6:25:08 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' setting, it is common knowledge that TheMagicGoesAway: No-one can surpass the Founders of Hogwarts, who can't surpass Merlin, no one can make stuff as good as the ancient artifacts, etc. According to the Blood Purists, of whom the Death Eaters are a violently proactive faction, it's the fault of the muggleborns for watering-down wizarding blood. Rationalist!Harry gets Draco to collaborate with him in investigating the true cause of the decline of magic through the ages. One of the alternate hypotheses considered is this very trope: "magic disappears because of Muggle science developing". [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Turns out the actual truth is more interesting than that.]] Merlin cast a very powerful spell to stop powerful magic being accessible from books or ghosts to people who hadn't figured it out themselves, to stop the world from being destroyed by idiots with powerful magic, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero but the Interdict of Merlin ended up depriving the Wizarding World of most magical knowledge. ]]]]

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* In the ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' setting, it is common knowledge that TheMagicGoesAway: No-one can surpass the Founders of Hogwarts, who can't surpass Merlin, no one can make stuff as good as the ancient artifacts, etc. According to the Blood Purists, of whom the Death Eaters are a violently proactive faction, it's the fault of the muggleborns for watering-down wizarding blood. Rationalist!Harry gets Draco to collaborate with him in investigating the true cause of the decline of magic through the ages. One of the alternate hypotheses considered is this very trope: "magic disappears because of Muggle science developing". [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Turns out the actual truth is more interesting than that.]] Merlin cast a very powerful spell to stop powerful magic being accessible from books or ghosts to people who hadn't figured it out themselves, to stop the world from being destroyed by idiots with powerful magic, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero but the Interdict of Merlin ended up depriving the Wizarding World of most magical knowledge. ]]]]
24th Sep '16 4:32:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* One late conversation in ''{{Arcanum}}'' mentions that the world goes through cycles of magic, uneasy balance, tech ect, with the game taking place during the uneasy balance leading into an era of technology.

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* One late conversation in ''{{Arcanum}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Arcanum}}'' mentions that the world goes through cycles of magic, uneasy balance, tech ect, with the game taking place during the uneasy balance leading into an era of technology.
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