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4th Dec '16 3:26:58 AM FoxBluereaver
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* The Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} features a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/Supergirl2015S2E8Medusa four]]-[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheFlash2014S3E8Invasion way]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/ArrowS5E8Invasion crossover]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS2E7Invasion episode]] with the Dominators as the main antagonists. According to one of them, they have seen how metahumans in many other planets become corrupted with their powers and run rampant, and viewing Earth as a potential threat to their own world, they just decide to [[FinalSolution eradicate them.]]

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* The Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} ''Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}'' features a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/Supergirl2015S2E8Medusa four]]-[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheFlash2014S3E8Invasion way]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/ArrowS5E8Invasion crossover]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS2E7Invasion episode]] with the Dominators as the main antagonists. According to one of them, they have seen how metahumans in many other planets become corrupted with their powers and run rampant, and viewing Earth as a potential threat to their own world, they just decide to [[FinalSolution eradicate them.]]
4th Dec '16 3:26:09 AM FoxBluereaver
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* The Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} features a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/Supergirl2015S2E8Medusa four]]-[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheFlash2014S3E8Invasion way]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/ArrowS5E8Invasion crossover]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS2E7Invasion episode]] with the Dominators as the main antagonists. According to one of them, they have seen how metahumans in many other planets become corrupted with their powers and run rampant, and viewing Earth as a potential threat to their own world, they just decide to [[FinalSolution eradicate them.]]
22nd Nov '16 12:11:03 AM mlsmithca
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* [[{{YMMV}} For some viewers]], TheFederation of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' can be interpreted as having become this by the 24th century; a dogmatic society bent on spreading Starfleet doctrine across the galaxy and whose unwavering faith in the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]] routinely allows them to condemn various races to die, due to the misguided belief that "[[SocialDarwinist evolution]]" has slated them to die and they must not interfere in the "cosmic plan".

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* [[{{YMMV}} For some viewers]], TheFederation of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' can be interpreted as having become this by the 24th century; a dogmatic society bent on spreading Starfleet doctrine across the galaxy and whose unwavering faith in the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]] routinely allows them to condemn various races to die, due to the misguided belief that "[[SocialDarwinist evolution]]" has slated them to die and they must not interfere in the "cosmic plan".
21st Nov '16 10:42:47 PM Scifimaster92
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* By the 24th Century, TheFederation of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' can be interpreted as having become this; a dogmatic society bent on spreading Starfleet doctrine across the galaxy and whose unwavering faith in the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]] routinely allows them to condemn various races to die, due to the misguided belief that "[[SocialDarwinist evolution]]" has slated them to die and they must not interfere in the "cosmic plan".

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* By the 24th Century, [[{{YMMV}} For some viewers]], TheFederation of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' can be interpreted as having become this; this by the 24th century; a dogmatic society bent on spreading Starfleet doctrine across the galaxy and whose unwavering faith in the [[AlienNonInterferenceClause Prime Directive]] routinely allows them to condemn various races to die, due to the misguided belief that "[[SocialDarwinist evolution]]" has slated them to die and they must not interfere in the "cosmic plan".
13th Nov '16 8:35:56 PM DarkHunter
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** "Journey's End" featured Daleks actually speaking German. No Nazi phrases though, they were just in Germany at the time.

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** "Journey's End" featured Daleks actually speaking German. No Nazi phrases though, they were just in Germany at the time.time (and they weren't using the proper German word for "[[CatchPhrase Exterminate!]]" either).
--->'''Daleks''': Exterminieren! Exterminieren! Halt! Sonst werden wir Sie exterminieren! Sie sind jetzt ein Gefangener der Daleks! Exterminieren![[labelnote:Translation]]Exterminate! Exterminate! Stop! Or you shall be exterminated! You are a prisoner of the Daleks! Exterminate![[/labelnote]]
13th Nov '16 8:32:03 PM DarkHunter
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** And the German-speaking Daleks in "Journey's End".

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** And the German-speaking Daleks in "Journey's End".End" featured Daleks actually speaking German. No Nazi phrases though, they were just in Germany at the time.
9th Nov '16 4:49:09 AM LondonKdS
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** The Peacekeepers are basically CommieNazis - see the entry below for the Soviet parallels.


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** The Peacekeepers are CommieNazis - see above for the Third Reich parallels.
30th Oct '16 10:00:06 PM DustSnitch
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': The evil cult that dominates the hierarchy of the planet Alternia paint walls with the blood of the lower castes as sacrifice to the Mirthful Messiahs, who will usher in the death of the universe itself. The joke? Their vernacular, belief system and aesthetic are all directly ripped from the work of Music/InsaneClownPosse and juggalo culture.
21st Oct '16 10:46:59 AM Morgenthaler
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** Indeed, "Volga" is the name of the largest river in European Russia, ''Volga-Volga'' was one of [[JosefStalin Stalin's]] favourite movies, and the Russian city of [[OtherRussianTownsAndCities Volgograd]] is better known by [[PleaseSelectNewCityName its former name]] [[WorldWarII Stalingrad]].

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** Indeed, "Volga" is the name of the largest river in European Russia, ''Volga-Volga'' was one of [[JosefStalin [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin's]] favourite movies, and the Russian city of [[OtherRussianTownsAndCities Volgograd]] is better known by [[PleaseSelectNewCityName its former name]] [[WorldWarII Stalingrad]].
18th Oct '16 7:35:37 AM BrendanRizzo
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* The Gamilas / Gamilons from ''Anime/SpaceBattleShipYamato''. Desslok's title is "Leader" (that is, Fuhrer) and he commands an extremely loyal cult of personality. The Gamilons appear to be a completely militarized people who are utterly contemptuous of "barbarian" races. They even give the Nazi salute. In spite of all this, Desslok [[spoiler: experiences a HeelRealization at the end of the second season and calls off his war with humanity.]]

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* The Gamilas / Gamilons from ''Anime/SpaceBattleShipYamato''. Desslok's title is "Leader" (that is, Fuhrer) Führer) and he commands an extremely loyal cult of personality. The Gamilons appear to be a completely militarized people who are utterly contemptuous of "barbarian" races. They even give the Nazi salute. In spite of all this, Desslok [[spoiler: experiences a HeelRealization at the end of the second season and calls off his war with humanity.]]



** The ''novel'' contains nothing that even really resembles fascism. It does depict that military service is necessary to gain the vote and serve in a couple of restricted professions like cops... but that has never been an element of any fascist state in the real world, let alone a defining characteristic, and the book makes the point that this is the ''only'' difference between a resident and a citizen. Residents otherwise have exactly the same rights as citizens. Elements of Fascism that are ''absent'' are legion - there is no Fuhrer nor anything remotely like one, and whilst government is made of veterans the active military plays no part in government whatever (the right to vote doesn't kick in until they retire, because, as one of the characters mentions, otherwise the soldiers would all vote never to go to war). There is no state control of the economy, no state control of the media, the military is tiny and is largely ignored or despised by the population, questioning of authority is not only not repressed, it's carefully encouraged... really the society depicted is closer to a liberal democracy than anything. One reason fans of the book so disliked the movie was that every fascist element in it was tacked onto the story, not originating from the book at all.

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** The ''novel'' contains nothing that even really resembles fascism. It does depict that military service is necessary to gain the vote and serve in a couple of restricted professions like cops... but that has never been an element of any fascist state in the real world, let alone a defining characteristic, and the book makes the point that this is the ''only'' difference between a resident and a citizen. Residents otherwise have exactly the same rights as citizens. Elements of Fascism that are ''absent'' are legion - there is no Fuhrer Führer nor anything remotely like one, and whilst government is made of veterans the active military plays no part in government whatever (the right to vote doesn't kick in until they retire, because, as one of the characters mentions, otherwise the soldiers would all vote never to go to war). There is no state control of the economy, no state control of the media, the military is tiny and is largely ignored or despised by the population, questioning of authority is not only not repressed, it's carefully encouraged... really the society depicted is closer to a liberal democracy than anything. One reason fans of the book so disliked the movie was that every fascist element in it was tacked onto the story, not originating from the book at all.



* The Borg from ''Franchise/StarTrek'', with assimilation. Taken even further in ''Star Trek: Destiny'', where it is revealed [[spoiler: that the Borg are a corruption of a near-Utopian society.]] In the original series, the Klingons represent the Soviet Union,m the Romulans the Red Chinese, 'the honorable enemy'. And yet it's the Federation whose economy most closely mirrors Marx's idea of a socialistic democracy where everyone's needs are satisfied equally (not necessarily the Soviet implementation of that idea). The episode where a 20th century capitalist is [[HumanPopsicle defrosted]], Picard is disgusted that he is concerned with accumulating wealth. Then again, clean, cheap energy and replicators may do that to a society. The terms may not quite apply. Post-scarcity would be the clearest parallel.

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* The Borg from ''Franchise/StarTrek'', with assimilation. Taken even further in ''Star Trek: Destiny'', where it is revealed [[spoiler: that the Borg are a corruption of a near-Utopian society.]] In the original series, the Klingons represent the Soviet Union,m Union, while the Romulans the Red Chinese, 'the honorable enemy'. And yet it's the Federation whose economy most closely mirrors Marx's idea of a socialistic democracy where everyone's needs are satisfied equally (not necessarily the Soviet implementation of that idea). The episode where a 20th century capitalist is [[HumanPopsicle defrosted]], Picard is disgusted that he is concerned with accumulating wealth. Then again, clean, cheap energy and replicators may do that to a society. The terms may not quite apply. Post-scarcity would be the clearest parallel.
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