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27th Sep '17 12:50:06 PM SeptimusHeap
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* The main plot of ''BatmanReturns'': The Penguin has his gang (to which he appears to have no connection whatsoever in the public's mind) commit random acts of violence throughout Gotham City in order to make the city's current mayor look weak, while simultaneously running for mayor himself and claiming he's the only one who can restore order (and, FromACertainPointOfView, he's telling the truth!). One of his allies even refers to "the Gulf of Tonkin" and "the Reichstag fire", both real-life events that might suggest to naïve viewers that both were [[FalseFlagOperation False Flag Operations]], when in fact they genuinely happened and were only exploited afterward.

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* The main plot of ''BatmanReturns'': ''Film/BatmanReturns'': The Penguin has his gang (to which he appears to have no connection whatsoever in the public's mind) commit random acts of violence throughout Gotham City in order to make the city's current mayor look weak, while simultaneously running for mayor himself and claiming he's the only one who can restore order (and, FromACertainPointOfView, he's telling the truth!). One of his allies even refers to "the Gulf of Tonkin" and "the Reichstag fire", both real-life events that might suggest to naïve viewers that both were [[FalseFlagOperation False Flag Operations]], when in fact they genuinely happened and were only exploited afterward.
2nd Jul '17 11:02:55 AM nombretomado
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* In 1999, Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F featured a long and convoluted storyline about TheUndertaker and his [[PowerStable Ministry Of Darkness]] attempting to seize control of the WWF from [[HeelFaceTurn former bad guy]] VinceMcMahon under the orders of a mysterious figure known only as "The Higher Power". This "Higher Power" turned out to be... VinceMcMahon. The MinistryOfDarkness then merged with Wrestling/TheCorporation to become the Corporate Ministry, and about five months of storyline were [[ShaggyDogStory thrown out the window]].

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* In 1999, Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F featured a long and convoluted storyline about TheUndertaker Wrestling/TheUndertaker and his [[PowerStable Ministry Of Darkness]] attempting to seize control of the WWF from [[HeelFaceTurn former bad guy]] VinceMcMahon Wrestling/VinceMcMahon under the orders of a mysterious figure known only as "The Higher Power". This "Higher Power" turned out to be... VinceMcMahon.Vince [=McMahon=]. The MinistryOfDarkness then merged with Wrestling/TheCorporation to become the Corporate Ministry, and about five months of storyline were [[ShaggyDogStory thrown out the window]].
25th Jun '17 8:06:13 PM SSJMagus
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* During the 2016 US Presidential Election, some conspiracy prone commentators wondered if Donald Trump was being deliberately outrageous in his comments to undermine fellow Republican candidates and turn voters on the fence towards Hilary Clinton (Trump having given to the Clintons in previous campaigns being a prime piece of evidence). It died down as the General Election neared and Trump was shown to be as aggressive and outrageous against Clinton as he had been against any Republican contender, though it did get a nod in some of his more political missteps. Ultimately, if this was the play, it WentHorriblyWrong.

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* During the 2016 US Presidential Election, some conspiracy prone commentators wondered if Donald Trump was being deliberately outrageous in his comments to undermine fellow Republican candidates and turn voters on the fence towards Hilary Clinton (Trump having given to the Clintons in previous campaigns being a prime piece of evidence). It died down as the General Election neared and Trump was shown to be as aggressive and outrageous against Clinton as he had been against any Republican contender, though it did get a nod in some of his more political missteps. Ultimately, if this was the play, it WentHorriblyWrong. Though believers in the conspiracy theory ''still'' insist that Trump and Clinton were conspiring together, regardless of all evidence of both political incompatibility and personal animosity between them, with the premise being that a Trump presidency was an acceptable Plan B for them (or whatever shadowy cabal of lizard-men they were working for).
20th Jun '17 1:02:12 PM 20person
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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy, Palpatine [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready ends up in charge of both]] the Republic as Supreme Chancellor and the Separatists as Darth Sidious. As chancellor, the conflict is his means of securing total and eternal power and destroying the Jedi Knights. As Sidious, he provides the external threat used to justify his expansion of government power. Given he ran both sides of the conflict, this effectively means [[XanatosGambit the outcome of the war was completely irrelevant]], as no matter who won he'd rule the galaxy and wipe out the Jedi, the war itself was just a means to an end.

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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy, Palpatine [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready ends up in charge of both]] the Republic as Supreme Chancellor and the Separatists as Darth Sidious. As chancellor, Chancellor, the conflict is his means of securing total and eternal power and destroying the Jedi Knights. Order. As Sidious, he (through his apprentice Count Dooku) provides the external threat used to justify his expansion of government power. Given he ran both sides of the conflict, this effectively means [[XanatosGambit the outcome of the war was completely irrelevant]], as no matter who won he'd rule the galaxy and wipe out the Jedi, the war itself was just a means to an end.
15th May '17 10:08:22 AM FordPrefect
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** In the latest editions of the corebook, the Computer and the Ultraviolets rank the societies according to how dangerous they are. Those that are less dangerous are usually deeply infiltrated and influenced by, if not outright run by, the Computer and/or Ultraviolets (FCCCP being the prime example). Other more extreme ones, like PURGE, are too dangerous for the Computer to control... but almost all have high ranking Ultraviolets at the helm (or close enough to make a grab for the wheel) already.

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** In the latest editions of the corebook, the Computer and the Ultraviolets rank the societies according to how dangerous they are. Those that are less dangerous are usually deeply infiltrated and influenced by, if not outright run by, the Computer and/or Ultraviolets (FCCCP being the prime example).example); some of them were created by the Computer to guide dissident impulses in these less dangerous directions. Other more extreme ones, like PURGE, are too dangerous for the Computer to control... but almost all have high ranking Ultraviolets at the helm (or close enough to make a grab for the wheel) already.
8th Apr '17 5:16:46 AM WillBGood
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* ''RockyAndBullwinkle'': Boris Badenov did this in "Missouri Mish-Mash."
* In the animated, set-in-the-future adaptation of ThePartridgeFamily, the family gets taken to play a gig on a planet called Texxas (the two X's are deliberate on the part of its supremely stereotyped founder; feels the real Texas is too small for his tastes). When they find the owner will not let them leave, they find some cattle rustlers and try to see if they can get them off the planet. Surprise! In order to make his Texxas even more Texas than Texas, the owner runs all the outlaw gangs as well. In short, the family has to find another way off.

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* ''RockyAndBullwinkle'': ''WesternAnimation/RockyAndBullwinkle'': Boris Badenov did this in "Missouri Mish-Mash."
* In the animated, set-in-the-future The adaptation of ThePartridgeFamily, ''Series/ThePartridgeFamily'' InSpace: the family gets taken to play a gig on a planet called Texxas (the two X's are deliberate on the part of its supremely stereotyped founder; feels the real Texas is too small for his tastes). When they find the owner will not let them leave, they find some cattle rustlers and try to see if they can get them off the planet. Surprise! In order to make his Texxas even more Texas than Texas, the owner runs all the outlaw gangs as well. In short, the family has to find another way off.
17th Mar '17 9:20:25 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'':
** If you join [[ProudMerchantRace Great]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder House]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Hlaalu]], one of their last assignments will be to wrestle control of the [[TheSyndicate Camonna]] [[TheMafia Tong]] from Orvas Dren. If you then complete the ThievesGuild storyline, you become their top dog, as well. Congratulations, you are now running both sides in a decades-long MobWar between two organized crime networks!
** In a case that causes some GameplayAndStorySegregation, you can do this for the [[WizardingSchool Mages Guild]] and [[TheMagocracy Great]] [[MightMakesRight House]] [[KlingonPromotion Telvanni]]. Unfortunately, the game doesn't recognize that you may already be the leader of the opposing faction when giving you a quest that would harm that faction. For example, a House Telvanni quest asks you to get the Mages Guild monopoly on magical training lifted. Likewise, a Mages Guild quest has you root out a Telvanni spy in their midst. If you're in charge of House Telvanni, that spy technically works for ''you''. And because both factions cater to magic-using characters, it is likely that you'll want to join both if playing as a Mage.
15th Mar '17 3:16:03 PM Godzillawolf
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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy, Palpatine [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready ends up in charge of both]] the Republic as Supreme Chancellor and the Separatists as Darth Sidious. As chancellor, the conflict is his means of securing total and eternal power and destroying the Jedi Knights. As Sidious, he provides the external threat used to justify his expansion of government power.

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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy, Palpatine [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready ends up in charge of both]] the Republic as Supreme Chancellor and the Separatists as Darth Sidious. As chancellor, the conflict is his means of securing total and eternal power and destroying the Jedi Knights. As Sidious, he provides the external threat used to justify his expansion of government power. Given he ran both sides of the conflict, this effectively means [[XanatosGambit the outcome of the war was completely irrelevant]], as no matter who won he'd rule the galaxy and wipe out the Jedi, the war itself was just a means to an end.
17th Jan '17 8:48:59 AM hszmv1
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* During the 2016 US Presidential Election, some conspiracy prone commentators wondered if Donald Trump was being deliberately outrageous in his comments to undermine fellow Republican candidates and turn voters on the fence towards Hilary Clinton (Trump having given to the Clintons in previous campaigns being a prime piece of evidence). It died down as the General Election neared and Trump was shown to be as aggressive and outrageous against Clinton as he had been against any Republican contender, though it did get a nod in some of his more political missteps. Ultimately, if this was the play, it WentHorriblyWrong.
6th Oct '16 7:11:03 AM Bosco13
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* In ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentleman'', [[Franchise/JamesBond M]] turns out to be [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Moriarty.]] He was recruited by the government in order to help control the criminal underworld. He can't decide if he's a government agent who controls the criminals, a criminal who controls a government agency or both.

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* In ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentleman'', ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', [[Franchise/JamesBond M]] turns out to be [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Moriarty.]] He was recruited by the government in order to help control the criminal underworld. He can't decide if he's a government agent who controls the criminals, a criminal who controls a government agency or both.
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