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20th May '17 3:47:38 PM nombretomado
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* And the ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' discarded the "botch" rule for just that reason. "[[CriticalFailure Dramatic Failure]]" requires that penalties ''completely'' erase your dice pool, ''and'' that you roll a 1 on the "chance die" you get instead (which only succeeds on a 10). Instead of "The better you are, the harder you fall", it becomes "If things go against you, you're going to suffer". It's still possible to botch, but only in certain situations. For example, making any roll involving Presence as a [[VampireTheRequiem Nosferatu]][[note]]A clan of vampires that all have some aspect that makes others inclined to avoid them[[/note]] not only reinstates the botch rule for that roll, but also removes the ability to re-roll on 10's.

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* And the ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' discarded the "botch" rule for just that reason. "[[CriticalFailure Dramatic Failure]]" requires that penalties ''completely'' erase your dice pool, ''and'' that you roll a 1 on the "chance die" you get instead (which only succeeds on a 10). Instead of "The better you are, the harder you fall", it becomes "If things go against you, you're going to suffer". It's still possible to botch, but only in certain situations. For example, making any roll involving Presence as a [[VampireTheRequiem [[TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem Nosferatu]][[note]]A clan of vampires that all have some aspect that makes others inclined to avoid them[[/note]] not only reinstates the botch rule for that roll, but also removes the ability to re-roll on 10's.
15th Apr '17 1:03:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''SmackdownVsRaw 2010'' has the rubber band snap completely upon getting a finisher. The game crashing to prevent it from being used is not unheard of, but the opponent will usually run away like a wimp, reverse everything thrown at them, prevent you from getting a hit in, it doesn't matter what it has to do to stop the finisher from being used.

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* ''SmackdownVsRaw ''VideoGame/SmackdownVsRaw 2010'' has the rubber band snap completely upon getting a finisher. The game crashing to prevent it from being used is not unheard of, but the opponent will usually run away like a wimp, reverse everything thrown at them, prevent you from getting a hit in, it doesn't matter what it has to do to stop the finisher from being used.
10th Apr '17 3:16:41 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in ''[[SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]''. The AI does rubberband, and will get the "Swarm" item (it sends giant insects to try to block the first place racer) a LOT if you're in first. That said, it also has a rubber band "snap", where if you're far enough ahead of the pack the AI won't even ''try'' to catch up anymore.

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* Subverted in ''[[SegaSuperstars ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]''. The AI does rubberband, and will get the "Swarm" item (it sends giant insects to try to block the first place racer) a LOT if you're in first. That said, it also has a rubber band "snap", where if you're far enough ahead of the pack the AI won't even ''try'' to catch up anymore.
3rd Apr '17 3:29:18 AM SpaceKABOOM
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* The Genesis version of ''Super Monaco GP'' averts this for the most part, with teams divided into classes according to the quality of their cars, but when you go into the second season of the World Championship (where you have to defend your title), C-class team Bullets will hire a new Brazilian driver called G. Ceara (any similarities to Ayrton Senna probably not intentional). If you secured a contract with paddock juggernaut Madonna (which would be like the Mercedes to Bullets' Sauber), you'll be in for a surprise: as it turns out, Ceara is quite the speed devil, and can completely outpace you at the first moments of the race, making it apparently impossible to catch up with him, even though he's driving for a backmarker team. To add insult to injury, if he beats you twice, he ousts you from your seat at Madonna and you get demoted to Bullets, and can never return to Madonna for the rest of the season even if you do beat him (fortunately, Ceara's rubber band always snaps at the third race of the season).

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* The Genesis version of ''Super ''[[VideoGame/MonacoGP Super Monaco GP'' GP]]'' averts this for the most part, with teams divided into classes according to the quality of their cars, but when you go into the second season of the World Championship (where you have to defend your title), C-class team Bullets will hire a new Brazilian driver called G. Ceara (any similarities to Ayrton Senna probably not intentional). If you secured a contract with paddock juggernaut Madonna (which would be like the Mercedes to Bullets' Sauber), you'll be in for a surprise: as it turns out, Ceara is quite the speed devil, and can completely outpace you at the first moments of the race, making it apparently impossible to catch up with him, even though he's driving for a backmarker team. To add insult to injury, if he beats you twice, he ousts you from your seat at Madonna and you get demoted to Bullets, and can never return to Madonna for the rest of the season even if you do beat him (fortunately, Ceara's rubber band always snaps at the third race of the season).
16th Mar '17 8:55:51 PM TheCuza
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* ''Polaris Snocross'' had TheComputerIsACheatingBastard levels of rubberbanding, complained about quite extensively in the ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYotAMLOtf4 episode about the game]]. It essentially becomes impossible to win tournaments due to racers getting ludicrous speed boosts and perfect handling, sometimes even teleporting short distances to get a better spot to maneuver. Even digging into the game files directly to cripple the AI through variable alteration doesn't entirely get rid of it; Scott himself recorded an instance of lobotomized AI still zooming by at the literal last second at faster speeds than most airplanes can achieve just to deny him first place.

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* ''Polaris Snocross'' had TheComputerIsACheatingBastard levels of rubberbanding, complained about quite extensively in the ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYotAMLOtf4 episode about the game]]. It essentially becomes impossible to win tournaments due to racers getting ludicrous speed boosts and perfect handling, sometimes even teleporting short distances to get a better spot to maneuver. maneuver, and also near-instant recovery from being knocked off their snowmobile. Even digging into the game files directly to cripple the AI through variable alteration doesn't entirely get rid of it; Scott himself recorded an instance of at 19:02 in the episode, a lobotomized AI racer still zooming by zooms past Ross at the literal last second second, at faster speeds than most airplanes can achieve achieve, just to deny him first place.place. Oh, and of course you have to win the tournaments to unlock the vast majority of tracks in the game. Ross believes that he, and anyone watching the episode, are probably the only people outside of the dev team to ever see them.
5th Mar '17 10:18:20 PM tsstevens
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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! BLEEPING!!! WAY!!!''''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.

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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! BLEEPING!!! WAY!!!''''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. ]] When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.
5th Mar '17 3:42:45 PM tsstevens
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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! BLEEPING!!! WAY!!!''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.

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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! BLEEPING!!! WAY!!!''' WAY!!!''''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.
5th Mar '17 3:41:35 PM tsstevens
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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! FUCKING!!! WAY!!!''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.

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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! FUCKING!!! BLEEPING!!! WAY!!!''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.
5th Mar '17 3:41:14 PM tsstevens
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** If you thought the previous versions or ''Madden'' were bad then ''2K17'' is the true grand master of the '''''NO!!! FUCKING!!! WAY!!!''' mode. Backstage brawls are a great way to farm VC points, the in game currency, however after a few wins the game will show why it is the MostTriumphantExample of TheComputerIsACheatingBastard. Reversals will be switched off for you and you'll lose in two moves. That is, [[SpitefulAI when the opponent chooses to finish the match. When they have a finisher and just keep irish whipping you then you may as well just restart, nothing you can say or do will make a difference.
5th Feb '17 6:55:47 PM Lopiny
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* ''Polaris Snocross'' had TheComputerIsACheatingBastard levels of rubberbanding, complained about quite extensively in the ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYotAMLOtf4 episode about the game]].

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* ''Polaris Snocross'' had TheComputerIsACheatingBastard levels of rubberbanding, complained about quite extensively in the ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYotAMLOtf4 episode about the game]]. It essentially becomes impossible to win tournaments due to racers getting ludicrous speed boosts and perfect handling, sometimes even teleporting short distances to get a better spot to maneuver. Even digging into the game files directly to cripple the AI through variable alteration doesn't entirely get rid of it; Scott himself recorded an instance of lobotomized AI still zooming by at the literal last second at faster speeds than most airplanes can achieve just to deny him first place.
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